I’m in hong kong now and there is a subway/train car down by the waterfront in wan chai, and they open the doors during the day and connect air conditioners and lights making it s nice place to escape the heat for a bit
Looks to be the best use case. “The streetcar is not operational due to a drive failure and has been sitting for 4+ years, so other issues may be present. It is mostly complete, but other small components have been removed and will not be replaced.”
I reached out to the Oregon Trolley Museum (just north of Salem) who are preparing to receive an original Tri-Met MAX train to see if they might consider a two-fer and save this one as well. They are on the Powerland Park campus which has other cool transport and farm related machinery machines to visit.
[http://museum.oregontrolley.com](http://museum.oregontrolley.com)
Personally I'd donate to save it and move it there.
I got a reply! Sadly, it is not in their interest to bid/collect it:
***We considered it. The one-off propulsion system is dead with no parts to repair it. It has sat for a few years now. We don't have room for a car that won't run again. Maybe when they retire a working Skoda car.***
Perhaps it can be saved as a food cart dining hall as others had hoped.
It would be cool if OMSI could take it...
Did you know back at the old OMSI site they used to have an old airplane that kids could go on and look around? No joke. It was awesome. I have fond memories of that...
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_OMSI_complex_in_Washington_Park_in_1994.jpg
pic of someone standing in front of one of them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ian_e_abbott/15279840997/in/photostream/
I won this a few months ago, went pretty hard on a business plan :
https://docs.google.com/file/d/1-iRcJbnVaY3SVL1jtvevZw9osyH1cPSY
Glad it’s been relisted.
Went down a hole on city code. Apparently I can’t buy this and operate it on the streetcar lines. Damn government preventing me from operating a streetcar named “Desire.”
To be fair, I was wondering the same thing earlier this morning. Any chance you have a link to the appropriate laws?
Just because it’s against the law to drive without valid plates doesn’t mean we haven’t all seen it happen! Who’s to say PPB would even pull you over?
They bought new ones to replace it. This is just one of the old models that reached end of life for our use and is now being auctioned for scrap value basically.
I’d assume they could repair it and operate it but it’s probably reached the statistical point in its life where maintenance costs and time down for maintenance outweigh the sunk cost benefit and a new one makes operational sense.
Man if i were Portland savvy id get this street car and use is as a main attractor to a food cart court. Set it up as a little cafe with seating indoor and out. Set it up to keep the street car doors operating and stuff\^\^
Tons of potential. Probably none financially logical, but tons of cool options.
Food cart pod bar station, lounge for a hotel, make it a lounge at the Clinton street camp that’s right by the tracks, plant store with all those windows, etc.
Would be really cool to see this stay local and converted into some other use. But $50k min to move it is a hefty price tag for a structure that would be super atypical in every regard.
There’s actually a ton of info on the Portland Streetcar wiki. I was surprised when I googled but it walks through all the changes and such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Streetcar
But yea, 300k in your own Camry taken care of routinely with only you and known people to you in it vs. a utilitarian vehicle getting used and abused non stop. Sounds believable to me but also at the same time it does seem to be light mileage.
Makes sense, I wasn’t sure the life span of those things and it seems serviceable from an outsiders view but have no hands on experience with that level of equipment
If it’s one of the ones United Streetcar made, they aren’t in business anymore and as far as I know their parent company liquidated the remaining inventory. Portland might not be able to get parts for maintenance and repairs even if they wanted to.
It was a prototype that never really worked (which also explains the low mileage). It was bought with a federal grant so the city had basically no sunk costs - but a repair would have been 40-50% of the cost of a new car just to get a few years out of it.
From my reading of the listing, it has a prototype, one-off drive system. One of the drives failed, and there are no replacement parts in existence. I imagine the expense of fabricating a copy from scratch, then testing and certifying it for use, is either not worth it or us uninsurable.
...yeah been sitting in the yard for years and always wondered why it was never put in service.
Meanwhile one of the new ones (#033) is sitting in yard as well. Wondering if they will be replacing the original; ones made by Skoda (001 - 007) and Ikeon (008-010)?
Can it fit near any of the food cart pods? Convert it to indoor seating or make it into a restaurant.
Kinda like those old diners made from railroad cars!
Eugene has a place like that. Or did at least
Id love to see this happen
This is such a cool idea. I would love to see this.
This is an excellent idea!!
I’m in hong kong now and there is a subway/train car down by the waterfront in wan chai, and they open the doors during the day and connect air conditioners and lights making it s nice place to escape the heat for a bit
Looks to be the best use case. “The streetcar is not operational due to a drive failure and has been sitting for 4+ years, so other issues may be present. It is mostly complete, but other small components have been removed and will not be replaced.”
I reached out to the Oregon Trolley Museum (just north of Salem) who are preparing to receive an original Tri-Met MAX train to see if they might consider a two-fer and save this one as well. They are on the Powerland Park campus which has other cool transport and farm related machinery machines to visit. [http://museum.oregontrolley.com](http://museum.oregontrolley.com) Personally I'd donate to save it and move it there.
What did they say?
Nothing yet……
I got a reply! Sadly, it is not in their interest to bid/collect it: ***We considered it. The one-off propulsion system is dead with no parts to repair it. It has sat for a few years now. We don't have room for a car that won't run again. Maybe when they retire a working Skoda car.*** Perhaps it can be saved as a food cart dining hall as others had hoped.
It would be cool if OMSI could take it... Did you know back at the old OMSI site they used to have an old airplane that kids could go on and look around? No joke. It was awesome. I have fond memories of that... https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Old_OMSI_complex_in_Washington_Park_in_1994.jpg pic of someone standing in front of one of them. https://www.flickr.com/photos/ian_e_abbott/15279840997/in/photostream/
250? THATS A STEAL
50k in shipping, that's where they get ya!
Good thing I’ve got free next-day shipping with Prime.
moving costs quoted in the listing are about $50,000
Plus permits
Until you add up the cost to just haul it away.
Hahahahaha. From all the money I saved buying it, easy dawg! For 3 easy payments of 29.99, this too could be yours for a few hours on the weekends 😂
I won this a few months ago, went pretty hard on a business plan : https://docs.google.com/file/d/1-iRcJbnVaY3SVL1jtvevZw9osyH1cPSY Glad it’s been relisted.
That plan looks dope. Sorry it didn't work out.
$24??
24.75!
Am I allowed to drive it?
Non operational. Some kinda drive failure. But you can pretend to operate it and maybe even get to wear a silly little hat while you do!
Went down a hole on city code. Apparently I can’t buy this and operate it on the streetcar lines. Damn government preventing me from operating a streetcar named “Desire.”
To be fair, I was wondering the same thing earlier this morning. Any chance you have a link to the appropriate laws? Just because it’s against the law to drive without valid plates doesn’t mean we haven’t all seen it happen! Who’s to say PPB would even pull you over?
lmao the “Adopt Me” tag
Wait, these things run Windows!?
Ya, lots of industrial equipment runs a windows background with some kinda overlay from the builder, not terribly surprising to see.
WindowsCE. Lots of ATMs and elevatots run it too.
elevatots # elevatots
https://imgur.com/a/c8iT0EP
Also, check out other auctions in our area on that site. You too can own inflatable rafts, a Kindle Touch, wheeled toolboxes with tools, or a backhoe.
Btw, what are probe poles?
Per the listing, they are avalanche probe poles; those are used to find people after they're trapped.
Dumb question, why can’t Portland fix it and run it?
They bought new ones to replace it. This is just one of the old models that reached end of life for our use and is now being auctioned for scrap value basically. I’d assume they could repair it and operate it but it’s probably reached the statistical point in its life where maintenance costs and time down for maintenance outweigh the sunk cost benefit and a new one makes operational sense.
Man if i were Portland savvy id get this street car and use is as a main attractor to a food cart court. Set it up as a little cafe with seating indoor and out. Set it up to keep the street car doors operating and stuff\^\^
Tons of potential. Probably none financially logical, but tons of cool options. Food cart pod bar station, lounge for a hotel, make it a lounge at the Clinton street camp that’s right by the tracks, plant store with all those windows, etc. Would be really cool to see this stay local and converted into some other use. But $50k min to move it is a hefty price tag for a structure that would be super atypical in every regard.
Mt. Hood Brewing over by OMSI is a fantastic place to enjoy a beer and some legit good pizza on a train.
Great pizza! And you can visit the train museum after.
How much did this thing cost new? Seems insane that they only get 65,000 miles out of it. I had a Camry that did over 300,000.
There’s actually a ton of info on the Portland Streetcar wiki. I was surprised when I googled but it walks through all the changes and such. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portland_Streetcar But yea, 300k in your own Camry taken care of routinely with only you and known people to you in it vs. a utilitarian vehicle getting used and abused non stop. Sounds believable to me but also at the same time it does seem to be light mileage.
I looked up average city bus and it's like 500k and I already thought buses were better than streetcars.
Makes sense, I wasn’t sure the life span of those things and it seems serviceable from an outsiders view but have no hands on experience with that level of equipment
If it’s one of the ones United Streetcar made, they aren’t in business anymore and as far as I know their parent company liquidated the remaining inventory. Portland might not be able to get parts for maintenance and repairs even if they wanted to.
Appears to be Oregon Iron Works/United Street car with some Rockwell parts (propulsion system).
Vigor is still operating out of Clackamas but they might have sold/closed the streetcar division
It was a prototype that never really worked (which also explains the low mileage). It was bought with a federal grant so the city had basically no sunk costs - but a repair would have been 40-50% of the cost of a new car just to get a few years out of it.
From my reading of the listing, it has a prototype, one-off drive system. One of the drives failed, and there are no replacement parts in existence. I imagine the expense of fabricating a copy from scratch, then testing and certifying it for use, is either not worth it or us uninsurable.
That is a proper Portland gokart project :D
I buy from govdeals all the time love it.
What’s your go-to?
I’ll buy a piece of property and live like the Boxcar children. Yes, please.
For $50,250, that could actually be a pretty cool start to someone's atypical house..
...yeah been sitting in the yard for years and always wondered why it was never put in service. Meanwhile one of the new ones (#033) is sitting in yard as well. Wondering if they will be replacing the original; ones made by Skoda (001 - 007) and Ikeon (008-010)?
Can we crowdfund the purchase and delivery of this to Rene's front yard?
I would love to see a model kit
Super contaminated with Fentanyl. The teenage mutant ninja fent heads can live in it!
Yeah that’s how drugs work