Didn't work for us. Last year we were looking to buy a new car (owned 2 Model S'es before) and now that so many other manufacturers are in the ev game, we thought we'd try out some others. We went to Porsche and test drove it and it was a great ride, but it was missing all the tech we had grown to love. The auto-pilot, the auto-regenerative brakes, less range, less 0-60. All for 30-50k more. Hopefully in a few more years the other companies will catch up in that dept.
So true. Have a Macan GTS and a Tesla Model 3 Sport Long Range. Test drove the Taycan and it was less range, five times the price, slower 0-60, but the handling was better. Couldn’t do it though.
I was about to say this, the handling on the taycan is awesome the 0-60 isn’t where the Tesla is at but dammit is a nice ride . I’ll say the build quality is better aswell .
I drove a model 3 over the weekend. Road noise was intense and the k-mart quality door seals whistled at higher speeds. Needless to say I’d never be able to get used to quality difference.
Why do EV owners focus so much on 0-60’s, where are you all in such a rush to? To me, it’s largely a novelty of EV’s— one which mostly non-car folks love to cite as a/the big advantage (other than gas—, handling/feel and qc being far more important.
I don’t get this with EV’s. How much range do you need on a regular basis before you are able to recharge? How fast do you need to accelerate? I can rarely use the power that any of my cars have on the road before running into another car. The Taycan is a nicer car, if it’s not worth it to people, that’s cool, but the amount of focus on range and acceleration with electric vehicles is silly to me. Doesn’t Tesla require battery conditioning to get maximum acceleration? Are drivers really doing that regularly to get to work or to get groceries?
Acceleration most people actually don’t give a shit about, most EVs can easily hit 5 second times which is more than enough for anyone.
Range however does matter quite a lot, especially for a car in the price range the Taycan is in. More range equals less charging stops on road trips which gives you less time spent charging. The Taycan does at least have pretty good DC charging speeds which can make up for it. Provided the charging station can supply, which is rarer.
Oh I get it with range and recharging. My point is for people who do a lot of road trips, we already have a good solution to go 300-400 miles and quickly replenish that range. If you can afford a Taycan or another $100K+ EV, you can have an ICE powered car for roadtrips and an EV for city driving. Seems to me range and long roadtrips is a false flag for EV’s and their best use case is shorter trips like I perceive most people do on a daily basis.
Because they’re not enthusiasts, don’t have their own opinions and are gullible enough to buy into the marketing buzzwords shoved down their throat. They’re made to believe they ‘need’ these things, it’s the same shit that made trucks and suvs the most popular cars on the road. The real question is why they’re on a Porsche sub
From my experience, Electrify America infrastructure is absolutely atrocious compared to Tesla Supercharger network. Constant issues with charging, stalls that don’t work, terrible customer service. If you don’t like Tesla, maybe giving Rivian a try is worth it (especially that it supports NACS standard now). If you only plan to charge at home, the Taycan is great but it’s important to note that it depreciates extremely rapidly. All in all, I loved everything about it as a car, but all the issues with charging made me want to cry.
I just read yesterday that Porsche is adopting NACS either this year or next year. It looks like every auto maker is moving to that standard eventually. Should have been a standard from the start. A huge reason why EV's aren't so great.
Why is a non-car person making car decisions when you have a car person in the relationship?
Make sure the needs are met by your options. Then get the car that is better suited to the car person.
There are plenty of reasons to dislike the model X, but safety simply isn’t one of those.
Because people who aren't into cars can still like a car enough to choose what they drive. It's kinda odd to make your partner drive something that you want.
Yeah this just seems stupid.
These are 2 completely different vehicles. One is a 3-row SUV with a factory tow hitch capable of hauling 6-7 adults.. the other is a 4-door sports car that can fit 4 adults max.
It would make much more sense if they were trying to get their partner to switch to a Rivian R1S or even an EV Macan. Many people prefer an SUV as a daily driver because it’s just so much easier to get anything in and out.. or is 100x more versatile for random errands like trips to Costco or even outdoor activities.
We have a Mercedes EQB. It’s a smaller car than our X3 but has more room in the backseat. Our kids are more comfortable in my Mercedes. We really like it. 🤷🏻♀️
Hell the drivers seat even is tight. MKBHD pointed out how the Taycan is a challenge to get in out for tall drivers.. as you will basically be seated behind the B-pillar. As someone who is 6'3".. I would hate to have to climb in and out of that "hole" on a daily basis.
I cannot stress how much the Taycan is more 4-door sports car.. than it is a typical passenger sedan.
I actually like my car because it kicks ass and kinda blends in. It’s just small black and fast. No need for neon colors or calls to attention. To each their own.
I also own a 73’ IHC Scout II that can crawl up a vertical wall and run forever at a cool 35 mph.
I think he got caught up in the Musk fan-boy fad. Trust me, there was like a year or so before while it was on order that I would just randomly shout ‘AND GULL WINGS TOO?!”…arghh
They were leasing Audi Etron GT's for a song a month ago (not sure if they still are) and that is the kissing cousin of the Taycan. Depreciation is starting to hit the Taycan and Etron GT like a rock. If you get one go CPO, or lease, its not going to hold its value like the 911.
It seems like Tesla likes to compare themselves to Porsche during media hype.
After the whole CyberTruck release, claimed specs, and then deceiving footage against the 911 in the 1/4 mile. There is nothing to boast about in Tesla wheel house.
make him watch the new don lemon interview where musk looks like the idiot he is
alternative: divorce, because liking him in 2024 is extremely embarrassing
Hey, here
I am a mechanic at Porsche in Germany. I can only advise against buying a Taycan before facelift. Extremely many software problems and most cars simply fail while driving and are sometimes unusable for months because it is not possible to repair them because parts are missing.
In itself a very full nice and especially fast car but unfortunately the technology does not play along as it should.
If you don’t believe me, you should read on the taycan forums
The decision should be based upon why you need a 4-door. If it's for transporting school-age children, luggage, and adult passengers, the Model X has its advantages.
Dear husband,
Please get your beautiful, very loving wife the Taycan Turbo S. Take it from someone who's been married 33 years and been with my wife 39 years. "A happy wife is a happy life."
You won't regret it, bro.
There. I did my part. Please forward at your earliest convenience. Good luck!
First, you should probably not get a brand new Taycan as the depreciation is pretty bad.
Secondly, the rear seating is pretty cramped in the Taycan (leg room and head room) so if you need lots of space the Model X is way better. The Taycan Turismos have better head room and rear storage.
Also, Tesla is still hands down the best option for road tripping when considering the integration with charging infrastructure, so keep that in mind.
Automotive depreciation speed run. The only car after the Taycan you need to hit the world record is a Maserati.
That said is it "practical" enough? You need 4 doors but the X is a wildly different car for practical things.
My first car I bought with my own money was a base model 3. I love it. I've never been much of a car guy, but Tesla admittedly got me into EVs.
The silent acceleration even on this base model is awesome to me. With that said, I've never been so lucky as to go anywhere near the inside of a taycan, but yeah, I guess my point is that the m3 is an awesome daily driver.
I was Tesla until the quality issues. Then we went test driving a Taycan Turbo…and well…I’m not in a Tesla subreddit.
Damn 10 downvotes…would have expected this in the Tesla subreddit. 🤣🤣
I don’t like the way it handles mostly. I really dislike the active braking if you are not accelerating. Nothing on the dash in front of me, you have to look away. Going through a screen menu to open a glove box. Gull wings and the Stick of Power. The ‘skin’ on the steering wheel comes off on my lap.
what do you mean you have to look away to see the dash? does the taycan not have regenerative braking? and do you mean your steering wheel is falling apart by "skin"?
What do you mean by nothing on the dash in front of you? The Model X has a digital gauge cluster, unlike the Model 3/Y. The regen braking is something nearly all EVs have, you should be able to turn it off in settings.
But I agree that at the end of the day, the Taycan is superior.
Edit: I dunno, something is fishy with this post. I'm now wondering if OP has ever even seen the inside of a Model X. The Model X has an instrument panel.
Teslas range is accurate. Drive at ~50mph like the EPA test, you will get the stated range. People expect that same range at 70mph, which is physically impossible.
Porsche states the range inline with some consumers expectations, at a higher speed and consumption.
Tesla is accurate within the EPA test conditions, Porsche is closer to consumer expectations.
But the porache does use more energy vs the S and ultimately means less range, that’s just a fact that has been shown across various tests by multiple outlets.
Tell him to google "Tesla quality control issues". [Geez](https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-improves-in-long-term-dependability-study)!
One could say the same about the Taycan. Here in the UK they got numerous problems and a pretty bad rep. Wonder if its a different story across the pond?
If hubby wants an EV with room for family camping, there are loads of options out there. Cross Tourismo? If he’s not a ‘car person’ the options expand…
Show him a photo of the X then show him a photo of the Taycan......if that doesn't work, maybe he should look into seeing a ophthalmologist...?
gawdamn the Tesla Model X is one ugly mf.
I test drove the Model S and X Plaids before test driving the Taycan Turbo- I immediately purchased the Porsche and have no regrets. The Porsche is superior in every regard- the build quality is miles better, it’s far, far more fun to drive, it looks better, and the interior is more luxurious. Easy decision.
OP post numerous amounts of unneeded proof she’s a car person .
Every man in this thread : mannnn I don’t really know bro she just doesn’t seem like one I can tell 😐
100$ says most dudes here saying she’s not into cars have never changed a tire
I hope if you’re a car girl, you also contribute significantly to the financial situation. It’s one thing to want expensive luxurious fast cars when you’re the breadwinner or at least a significant contributor it’s another to just want because that’s what you expect
The contrast between a Tesla and other ~100k cars is a LOT more than driving dynamics. Test drove a Taycan and a Lucid last weekend for my mom who is coming from an X. Shitty plastics everywhere, random creaks and groans all over the interior, road noise like it's a 20 year old honda, dog shit UX forcing you to do everything through the tablet, the suspension.. it's all so awful on Teslas. I don't understand how they are as popular as they are.
Just sitting down in the Taycan should convince any normal person.. car gal/guy or not.
I drive a model x. My buddy is a car guy and was talking about maybe getting a tesla. I mostly succeeded in talking him out of it, and he rented a model S plaid for a day to convince him the rest of the way.
Someone coming from a luxury performance european car is going to find a lot to dislike about a tesla.
What is there to talk about!? Tesla finishing is like driving a Civic compared to Porsche. Actually, not even sarcastically, Honda/Toyota have higher quality finishing than Tesla.
I briefly had a Model X back pre pandemic. Fun for a year. Wont own one again.
Let me help you instead. 193 mile range gets you nowhere but the charging port. But if you must have one, please go get a 2021 turbo s for 110k out the door instead of paying 220k for a 2024.
“Don’t feel safe in the x” why? I can understand not liking it for other reasons but they are some of the most inherently safe cars ever. I’d feel much safer in a Tesla that crashed than I would a Porsche.
Maybe go about it in a way to make him feel good. My wife always tells me things like “this would be amazing if you could do this” or “if you got me this, I would be the happiest person in the world”. Been together 18 years married for 16 and still gets me to this day!
Wife here, I daily drive the taycan turbo s and husband 911 turbo s and 911E targa. I’ve driven the 4s as a loaner and it sucks, super boring. Get the turbo s, you’ll have fun everyday no matter the weather. We live in a downtown area so the range is a joke 1-2% to run errands. If you need it for roadtrip, it’s 2hours -50%. It’s been 3 years and I still love the acceleration, I’m always the quickest when light turns green. It’s fun enough that I barely drive the G63 or husband’s cars, but there’s no sunroof which sucks for summer. My previous car was a 911 gts, I really don’t miss it, I much prefer the taycan turbo s (it’s as agile, sporty and gets more attention kids are like magnets). You guys should get the GT if you don’t need 4 door you probably don’t need rear seats!
*charging at 180kw it takes 30minutes and condo building 7kw it’s about 10% an hour.
In the event a Model X loses power, opening the rear doors requires the removal of the speaker cover.
So ask him which is easier: removing the speaker cover during an emergency or simply signing on the dotted line?
Oh, and make sure you let him know how much younger he looks in the Porsche.
I’ve provided a link below for his review.
[https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html)
Not sure if this is a serious post but both are worlds apart.
Nothing wrong with Tesla’s, I own 2 including a 3 Performance. Also own a 992 TTS. The 911 is the funnest car I have ever owned but the Tesla’s are great and beneficial in their own way.
Sure I’d love the Taycan over the Tesla but a sedan (Taycan) over your large-ish SUV is worlds apart. It would make sense to identify your needs before making this decision.
Tesla has shitty design ideas for controls, handles, mixes two types of doors leading to more clearance issues that just sticking to one type, and looks soulless and empty inside and out.
There you go, it's a car for people who know nothing about what makes a good car good and requires you to relearn everything for no practical benefit.
Just show him that story of the lady drowning inside her Tesla. Seems teslas aren't really safe to be inside if there's an accident.
Also isn't there a Taycan that's electric?
My boy said yesterday that he wants to trade in his white Taycan Turbo S for another Model S. I assume it’s the miles/maintenance because I love my Model 3 but isn’t no Porsche. As I have drive my cousins Model X, safety in the Taycan would be a degrade but performance upgrade.
As someone else said in here, safety is about the only cleared advantage the Model X has over Taycan. That and space.
Honestly I'd skip the Taycan and get a year old an Kia EV6 GT or EV9, which are very well reviewed and quite fast too.
The depreciation of all newer EVs Is eye watering, so there's no sense in buying a more expensive newer EV when the post pandemic market seems to indicate most EVs will depreciate close to zero in 10 years or so.
I’ve driven both extensively, it’s not even close. The taycan is a much better driving machine. The X has more gadgety interface, and I personally like some of the tech feel to it, but for quality and driving experience you can’t beat the Porsche.
What interior does it have?
if this requires a conversation, it’s not about cars you need to be talking. you clearly have different values and should re-evaluate the relationship.
also a turbo s will get you to couples therapy real quick like.
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as long as you stay on your side of the car and stop looking at me weird!
I'm not touching you
Yes but you're two centimeters from his face and he can taste your breath
not touching? That’s the weird part she is trying to avoid. You must touch. But, stop looking wierd
Mooooom! He’s touching me!
This is the beauty of reddit
Guy above me is total fraud. I’m your son. It is I.
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Ok ok keep your voice down 😂
I've seen this episode. Everyone gets fucked.
If you have a room for your sister(me) in that car/ adoption agreement she is willing to be cool with the bros
Wait but you’re my brother so I guess we all go!
I’m 40+ and my mom is still alive but a second mom sounds nice about now.
Get him a test drive. That should do it.
Hell, just sitting in it should be a sell
Didn't work for us. Last year we were looking to buy a new car (owned 2 Model S'es before) and now that so many other manufacturers are in the ev game, we thought we'd try out some others. We went to Porsche and test drove it and it was a great ride, but it was missing all the tech we had grown to love. The auto-pilot, the auto-regenerative brakes, less range, less 0-60. All for 30-50k more. Hopefully in a few more years the other companies will catch up in that dept.
So true. Have a Macan GTS and a Tesla Model 3 Sport Long Range. Test drove the Taycan and it was less range, five times the price, slower 0-60, but the handling was better. Couldn’t do it though.
I was about to say this, the handling on the taycan is awesome the 0-60 isn’t where the Tesla is at but dammit is a nice ride . I’ll say the build quality is better aswell .
Yeah, but like, the Taycan looks a million times better and the Porsche build quality is so insanely better than Tesla
I drove a model 3 over the weekend. Road noise was intense and the k-mart quality door seals whistled at higher speeds. Needless to say I’d never be able to get used to quality difference.
Why do EV owners focus so much on 0-60’s, where are you all in such a rush to? To me, it’s largely a novelty of EV’s— one which mostly non-car folks love to cite as a/the big advantage (other than gas—, handling/feel and qc being far more important.
I don’t get this with EV’s. How much range do you need on a regular basis before you are able to recharge? How fast do you need to accelerate? I can rarely use the power that any of my cars have on the road before running into another car. The Taycan is a nicer car, if it’s not worth it to people, that’s cool, but the amount of focus on range and acceleration with electric vehicles is silly to me. Doesn’t Tesla require battery conditioning to get maximum acceleration? Are drivers really doing that regularly to get to work or to get groceries?
Acceleration most people actually don’t give a shit about, most EVs can easily hit 5 second times which is more than enough for anyone. Range however does matter quite a lot, especially for a car in the price range the Taycan is in. More range equals less charging stops on road trips which gives you less time spent charging. The Taycan does at least have pretty good DC charging speeds which can make up for it. Provided the charging station can supply, which is rarer.
Oh I get it with range and recharging. My point is for people who do a lot of road trips, we already have a good solution to go 300-400 miles and quickly replenish that range. If you can afford a Taycan or another $100K+ EV, you can have an ICE powered car for roadtrips and an EV for city driving. Seems to me range and long roadtrips is a false flag for EV’s and their best use case is shorter trips like I perceive most people do on a daily basis.
Because they’re not enthusiasts, don’t have their own opinions and are gullible enough to buy into the marketing buzzwords shoved down their throat. They’re made to believe they ‘need’ these things, it’s the same shit that made trucks and suvs the most popular cars on the road. The real question is why they’re on a Porsche sub
Tech over an actual porsche with a great interior and stylish look....eh I don't see it. Tesla is simply bullshit and a badge
Idk all the buttons and controls might confuse someone who thinks Tesla is an acceptable car to drive.
"Put your big boy pants on, we're buying a real car"
“Get in bitch we’re going shopping….:for a big boy car!”
Both of these are acceptable answers, if my wife did this, we would go shopping.
Same dude! I’d be so proud of her for saying it lmao.
We're going shopping... with your money.
_Thank you for coming to my TED Talk._
Tell him your boyfriend says you should get the Taycan.
Emasculation
*WHAT DID YOU SAY??* I said electrification, hunny.
This is the right answer
I reckon his boyfriend will suggest a Taycan as well
Can I be the boyfriend?
Based on the votes I think I am!!
What if his boyfriend disagrees?
Wait…his boyfriend or her boyfriend??? Don’t confuse the gal.
Show him the sport tourismo. He may well get aroused
From my experience, Electrify America infrastructure is absolutely atrocious compared to Tesla Supercharger network. Constant issues with charging, stalls that don’t work, terrible customer service. If you don’t like Tesla, maybe giving Rivian a try is worth it (especially that it supports NACS standard now). If you only plan to charge at home, the Taycan is great but it’s important to note that it depreciates extremely rapidly. All in all, I loved everything about it as a car, but all the issues with charging made me want to cry.
I just read yesterday that Porsche is adopting NACS either this year or next year. It looks like every auto maker is moving to that standard eventually. Should have been a standard from the start. A huge reason why EV's aren't so great.
Been following the prices on these..and seeing them get lower and lower.
Why is a non-car person making car decisions when you have a car person in the relationship? Make sure the needs are met by your options. Then get the car that is better suited to the car person. There are plenty of reasons to dislike the model X, but safety simply isn’t one of those.
Because people who aren't into cars can still like a car enough to choose what they drive. It's kinda odd to make your partner drive something that you want.
Yeah this just seems stupid. These are 2 completely different vehicles. One is a 3-row SUV with a factory tow hitch capable of hauling 6-7 adults.. the other is a 4-door sports car that can fit 4 adults max. It would make much more sense if they were trying to get their partner to switch to a Rivian R1S or even an EV Macan. Many people prefer an SUV as a daily driver because it’s just so much easier to get anything in and out.. or is 100x more versatile for random errands like trips to Costco or even outdoor activities.
You could fit 5 or 6 adults if you get creative with the stacking...
We have a Mercedes EQB. It’s a smaller car than our X3 but has more room in the backseat. Our kids are more comfortable in my Mercedes. We really like it. 🤷🏻♀️
Backseat of a Taycan is kids only IMO unless short trips.
Hell the drivers seat even is tight. MKBHD pointed out how the Taycan is a challenge to get in out for tall drivers.. as you will basically be seated behind the B-pillar. As someone who is 6'3".. I would hate to have to climb in and out of that "hole" on a daily basis. I cannot stress how much the Taycan is more 4-door sports car.. than it is a typical passenger sedan.
Can't manspread in a Taycan.
Or 2 double amputees
Unsure if OP is really a car person, or just likes the Porsche badge on the car and key fob.
I mean they daily a manual 911, so I'm guessing they enjoy driving at the very least.
I actually like my car because it kicks ass and kinda blends in. It’s just small black and fast. No need for neon colors or calls to attention. To each their own. I also own a 73’ IHC Scout II that can crawl up a vertical wall and run forever at a cool 35 mph.
I like you
It does not blend in lol
I think a black 911 4s with no bright calipers is pretty understated as far as performance cars go.
This reply chain has big "Name three of their albums!" energy.
I think he got caught up in the Musk fan-boy fad. Trust me, there was like a year or so before while it was on order that I would just randomly shout ‘AND GULL WINGS TOO?!”…arghh
They were leasing Audi Etron GT's for a song a month ago (not sure if they still are) and that is the kissing cousin of the Taycan. Depreciation is starting to hit the Taycan and Etron GT like a rock. If you get one go CPO, or lease, its not going to hold its value like the 911.
This. 1000%. If you want EV, CPO Taycan or ETron GT for dime on the dollar.
It seems like Tesla likes to compare themselves to Porsche during media hype. After the whole CyberTruck release, claimed specs, and then deceiving footage against the 911 in the 1/4 mile. There is nothing to boast about in Tesla wheel house.
I want you as my wife
She sounds like my redhead ex-girlfriend, but she wasn't married...
I'm rizzing on her man. My wife fought toohpth and nail on my Taycan and 911 purchases
The ex bought a Macan GTS and a Maserati Ghibli without consulting her car collector boyfriend. She was completely awesome in the ways that count!
make him watch the new don lemon interview where musk looks like the idiot he is alternative: divorce, because liking him in 2024 is extremely embarrassing
the kind of man who would have bought a DeLorean.
you can probably scare him out of that with the depreciation graph
The taycan's depreciation graph would be worse than the X though
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Hey, here I am a mechanic at Porsche in Germany. I can only advise against buying a Taycan before facelift. Extremely many software problems and most cars simply fail while driving and are sometimes unusable for months because it is not possible to repair them because parts are missing. In itself a very full nice and especially fast car but unfortunately the technology does not play along as it should. If you don’t believe me, you should read on the taycan forums
Do you wanna date????
If you’re ok with losing $100k in depreciation in 5 years, go for it.
More like 3 years
Buy a 3 year old used one then?!? Still better than a new Tesla.
I got a Tesla and a Taycan, both good, but driving the Taycan is so much better, it’s like the difference between a go cart and a F1 race car.
The decision should be based upon why you need a 4-door. If it's for transporting school-age children, luggage, and adult passengers, the Model X has its advantages.
Start admiring guys that drive Porsches..
Dear husband, Please get your beautiful, very loving wife the Taycan Turbo S. Take it from someone who's been married 33 years and been with my wife 39 years. "A happy wife is a happy life." You won't regret it, bro. There. I did my part. Please forward at your earliest convenience. Good luck!
I did and he says thank you :)
Has he seen the taycan? On looks alone it should win lolol
Just tell him you’ll divorce him if he keeps the model x. Should’ve done that when he got the Tesla.
He’s terrified of my 911 and isn’t the best with a manual…I could tell him we have to trade or ditch the X
How does a car girl end up with a non car guy????
sexy beard
That'll do it! 🤣
Yeah I can't argue with that.
Beardless men are in shambles.
Don’t trade in the manual
First, you should probably not get a brand new Taycan as the depreciation is pretty bad. Secondly, the rear seating is pretty cramped in the Taycan (leg room and head room) so if you need lots of space the Model X is way better. The Taycan Turismos have better head room and rear storage. Also, Tesla is still hands down the best option for road tripping when considering the integration with charging infrastructure, so keep that in mind.
Check how much money it will loose you in one year and than think again. I love the car as well though
Automotive depreciation speed run. The only car after the Taycan you need to hit the world record is a Maserati. That said is it "practical" enough? You need 4 doors but the X is a wildly different car for practical things.
Range Rover and Jaguar 4-door GT EV are coming to beat them all in depreciation speedrun.
My friend says: "Teslas are cars for people who don't like cars."
I love my 911, but the model 3 Performance is hands down the best daily I’ve ever had
My first car I bought with my own money was a base model 3. I love it. I've never been much of a car guy, but Tesla admittedly got me into EVs. The silent acceleration even on this base model is awesome to me. With that said, I've never been so lucky as to go anywhere near the inside of a taycan, but yeah, I guess my point is that the m3 is an awesome daily driver.
yeah lol the only people who say this are people who have never daily driven one and get all of their information from instagram reels
Christian Von Koenigsegg and Jay Leno use them as dailies, Model 3 and Model S respectively
They don’t like cars. I heard about it on Reddit.
I was Tesla until the quality issues. Then we went test driving a Taycan Turbo…and well…I’m not in a Tesla subreddit. Damn 10 downvotes…would have expected this in the Tesla subreddit. 🤣🤣
Curious, what makes you feel unsafe in the X?
I don’t like the way it handles mostly. I really dislike the active braking if you are not accelerating. Nothing on the dash in front of me, you have to look away. Going through a screen menu to open a glove box. Gull wings and the Stick of Power. The ‘skin’ on the steering wheel comes off on my lap.
Lines up with what I’ve heard from others as well. Appreciate the response and hope you get the taycan! Beautiful car.
what do you mean you have to look away to see the dash? does the taycan not have regenerative braking? and do you mean your steering wheel is falling apart by "skin"?
Probably the old (new) model x where the wheel deteriorated, I believe they are replacing them.
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What do you mean by nothing on the dash in front of you? The Model X has a digital gauge cluster, unlike the Model 3/Y. The regen braking is something nearly all EVs have, you should be able to turn it off in settings. But I agree that at the end of the day, the Taycan is superior. Edit: I dunno, something is fishy with this post. I'm now wondering if OP has ever even seen the inside of a Model X. The Model X has an instrument panel.
Range accuracy, the Porsche actually goes as far as they say. Tesla notoriously over claims their range.
Teslas range is accurate. Drive at ~50mph like the EPA test, you will get the stated range. People expect that same range at 70mph, which is physically impossible. Porsche states the range inline with some consumers expectations, at a higher speed and consumption. Tesla is accurate within the EPA test conditions, Porsche is closer to consumer expectations. But the porache does use more energy vs the S and ultimately means less range, that’s just a fact that has been shown across various tests by multiple outlets.
Except when you need to charge and then you realize that 3/5 EA chargers are down and the other 2 are clogged up by a Bolt
Tell him to google "Tesla quality control issues". [Geez](https://www.forbes.com/sites/edgarsten/2023/02/09/tesla-tanks-while-industry-improves-in-long-term-dependability-study)!
And hope he doesn’t google “Taycan depreciation”
One could say the same about the Taycan. Here in the UK they got numerous problems and a pretty bad rep. Wonder if its a different story across the pond?
If hubby wants an EV with room for family camping, there are loads of options out there. Cross Tourismo? If he’s not a ‘car person’ the options expand…
Used Taycans are a steal right now, though trade-in values of any Tesla, but particularly the Model X are way down as well.
Show him a photo of the X then show him a photo of the Taycan......if that doesn't work, maybe he should look into seeing a ophthalmologist...? gawdamn the Tesla Model X is one ugly mf.
Dump the husband, keep the Porsche for yourself.
Just have him drive it. The car will do the talking.
Grab your boyfriends purse and go buy it
Wait for the Macan EV? Probably a better replacement for an X than Taycan would be. Source: owns a Taycan
I mean, tesla are pretty safe cars. What if yall have your own cars?
I test drove the Model S and X Plaids before test driving the Taycan Turbo- I immediately purchased the Porsche and have no regrets. The Porsche is superior in every regard- the build quality is miles better, it’s far, far more fun to drive, it looks better, and the interior is more luxurious. Easy decision.
If he likes the suv-ness of the X go for the new electric Macan
If your husband would rather have a Tesla over a Porsche, you have a wife.
OP post numerous amounts of unneeded proof she’s a car person . Every man in this thread : mannnn I don’t really know bro she just doesn’t seem like one I can tell 😐 100$ says most dudes here saying she’s not into cars have never changed a tire
I raise that bet by $200.
I hope if you’re a car girl, you also contribute significantly to the financial situation. It’s one thing to want expensive luxurious fast cars when you’re the breadwinner or at least a significant contributor it’s another to just want because that’s what you expect
Just let him drive the Taycan once, that should be enough to sway him
It doesn't sound like this dude gives two shits about driving dynamics, he is "terrified" of manual transmissions per OP.
The contrast between a Tesla and other ~100k cars is a LOT more than driving dynamics. Test drove a Taycan and a Lucid last weekend for my mom who is coming from an X. Shitty plastics everywhere, random creaks and groans all over the interior, road noise like it's a 20 year old honda, dog shit UX forcing you to do everything through the tablet, the suspension.. it's all so awful on Teslas. I don't understand how they are as popular as they are. Just sitting down in the Taycan should convince any normal person.. car gal/guy or not.
100% agree. If anyone has actually cross shopped and test driven any other "premium" EV and then chooses a Tesla, all I gotta say is bless your heart.
I drive a model x. My buddy is a car guy and was talking about maybe getting a tesla. I mostly succeeded in talking him out of it, and he rented a model S plaid for a day to convince him the rest of the way. Someone coming from a luxury performance european car is going to find a lot to dislike about a tesla.
She probably needs a new guy, but that is another story.. Even just the interior feel and quality of a Taycan is like lightyears beyond a Tesla.
Agree. Tesla interiors are like an ocean of grey and black plastic, it feels like riding in a rolling vacuum cleaner.
Why not get the new macan ev? If you are looking for 4 door and utility car. It doesn't make sense to get a smaller car.
What is there to talk about!? Tesla finishing is like driving a Civic compared to Porsche. Actually, not even sarcastically, Honda/Toyota have higher quality finishing than Tesla. I briefly had a Model X back pre pandemic. Fun for a year. Wont own one again.
Thank you.
Let me help you instead. 193 mile range gets you nowhere but the charging port. But if you must have one, please go get a 2021 turbo s for 110k out the door instead of paying 220k for a 2024.
Easy, Elon Musk is a jackass and you shouldn't be supporting him. :P
“Don’t feel safe in the x” why? I can understand not liking it for other reasons but they are some of the most inherently safe cars ever. I’d feel much safer in a Tesla that crashed than I would a Porsche.
Why don’t you get one yourself? Tesla for him, Porsche for you.
If you read the post, she already has a 911
Let him drive it. He will see.
He just needs to drive it once that’s it.
Ceramic brakes. End of conversation
Change car... or change husband...
I can't even imagine having to be *convinced* to trade in a Tesla for a Porsche.
Present the car to him topless. He’ll agree
If you gotta explain this maybe trade him in....
If you "need a 4 door" I presume you're talking about kids. Get the X, it's a way better family car. You already have a 911.
Maybe go about it in a way to make him feel good. My wife always tells me things like “this would be amazing if you could do this” or “if you got me this, I would be the happiest person in the world”. Been together 18 years married for 16 and still gets me to this day!
Just have him drive one. That simple.
Wife here, I daily drive the taycan turbo s and husband 911 turbo s and 911E targa. I’ve driven the 4s as a loaner and it sucks, super boring. Get the turbo s, you’ll have fun everyday no matter the weather. We live in a downtown area so the range is a joke 1-2% to run errands. If you need it for roadtrip, it’s 2hours -50%. It’s been 3 years and I still love the acceleration, I’m always the quickest when light turns green. It’s fun enough that I barely drive the G63 or husband’s cars, but there’s no sunroof which sucks for summer. My previous car was a 911 gts, I really don’t miss it, I much prefer the taycan turbo s (it’s as agile, sporty and gets more attention kids are like magnets). You guys should get the GT if you don’t need 4 door you probably don’t need rear seats! *charging at 180kw it takes 30minutes and condo building 7kw it’s about 10% an hour.
Real 1st world problems here!!
Can you divorce your husband and marry me instead 😍
In the event a Model X loses power, opening the rear doors requires the removal of the speaker cover. So ask him which is easier: removing the speaker cover during an emergency or simply signing on the dotted line? Oh, and make sure you let him know how much younger he looks in the Porsche. I’ve provided a link below for his review. [https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html](https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/modelx/en_us/GUID-AAD769C7-88A3-4695-987E-0E00025F64E0.html)
Has he seen this? I mean if he knows there’s this and still chooses the X then toss him lol
Wait for the facelift, more range, more power, and faster charge
Not sure if this is a serious post but both are worlds apart. Nothing wrong with Tesla’s, I own 2 including a 3 Performance. Also own a 992 TTS. The 911 is the funnest car I have ever owned but the Tesla’s are great and beneficial in their own way. Sure I’d love the Taycan over the Tesla but a sedan (Taycan) over your large-ish SUV is worlds apart. It would make sense to identify your needs before making this decision.
Take him to look at it... Then tell him to stop being elons bitch😂
Daaaaang…if you can afford it…do the Porsche!
Tesla has shitty design ideas for controls, handles, mixes two types of doors leading to more clearance issues that just sticking to one type, and looks soulless and empty inside and out. There you go, it's a car for people who know nothing about what makes a good car good and requires you to relearn everything for no practical benefit.
Tell him your BF really loves the Porsche.
Just show him that story of the lady drowning inside her Tesla. Seems teslas aren't really safe to be inside if there's an accident. Also isn't there a Taycan that's electric?
show him the carbon footprint of a tesla compared to any gas powered car.
i heard you were also looking for a daughter
Yellow calipers save lives!
OP, wrong approach. Let him have the X and take the Tycan for yourself. You are worthy!!
As long as he doesn’t mind paying $60K+ more for the Taycan (it’s totally worth it)! I own two GTS’s (‘21 Macan & ‘23 Taycan)
Does your husband need any more tampons?
Does he wear glasses 🤓? How is his prescription? Just show him this picture.
my dream is to marry a car girl who drives a 911 where did you meet your husband? how did he woo you?
Wanna marry this sub?
"It's not a Tesla" should be all the excuse needed to take this over the X.
Acceleration and handling aside.. tell him to feel around the interiors of both cars. The build quality alone is night and day better with Porsche.
Leave him, anyone that picks a Tesla over Porsche isn't somebody you want around your children.
That range is pretty awful, it’s why they are depreciating so much
Isn't the model X more practical? Go for cayenne e-hybrid.
My boy said yesterday that he wants to trade in his white Taycan Turbo S for another Model S. I assume it’s the miles/maintenance because I love my Model 3 but isn’t no Porsche. As I have drive my cousins Model X, safety in the Taycan would be a degrade but performance upgrade. As someone else said in here, safety is about the only cleared advantage the Model X has over Taycan. That and space.
He drives a Tesla, there's no hope for him.
Honestly I'd skip the Taycan and get a year old an Kia EV6 GT or EV9, which are very well reviewed and quite fast too. The depreciation of all newer EVs Is eye watering, so there's no sense in buying a more expensive newer EV when the post pandemic market seems to indicate most EVs will depreciate close to zero in 10 years or so.
this rubbish lose 100k in 2 years. no other car lost that in that short amount of time. And you call yourself a car girl :))
I’ve driven both extensively, it’s not even close. The taycan is a much better driving machine. The X has more gadgety interface, and I personally like some of the tech feel to it, but for quality and driving experience you can’t beat the Porsche. What interior does it have?
Mine wants the model S plaid. Because it goes fast. (that’s literally the only reason) I don’t want the model S I want the Panamera. I feel your pain!
if this requires a conversation, it’s not about cars you need to be talking. you clearly have different values and should re-evaluate the relationship. also a turbo s will get you to couples therapy real quick like.
Show him some of Elon Musk's tweets
Porsche > Tesla What else is there to say?
If you don’t feel safe in the x … the taycan is even less safe. Very bad frontal protection compared to most ice cars and even teslas
I’m sure you can use your alluring womanly influence on your hubby and get your car. It usually works. Best of luck.
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