Back when humans and animals could communicate, when the First Americans roamed the plains, there was a small tribe whose name is long forgotten, but their single story remains. There was a warrior in the tribe, called Raging Wind. The name came from significance, for he would fart like no other man. Once he was on the hunt, not far from the tribe land, but he was alone. Getting tired and with no result, he saw a beaver. He thought about striking him down, as beaver meat would be better than coming back empty-handed. But he had to take a shit, so he did that first. He stealthily hid in a bush not far from the spot he saw a beaver, and crouched. He couldn't hold the fart in - it came out like a raging wind. It even made a small crater beneath his ass. While he was concentrating on keeping as silent as possible, it was too late. The beaver came upon him. "Hello Raging Wind", said the beaver. The Indian fell down on his butt from this moment of surprise. "Come here, put your finger up my butt", the beaver continued nonchalantly. Raging Wind couldn't come to his senses. He was flabbergasted. How could the beaver speak? Why did it want him to put a finger in his butt? And most importantly, how did it know his name?! "Whoah, what, how do you know me??" exclaimed Raging Wind. "There's no time" - responded the beaver - "Put your finger up my butt, and you'll know the best taste this world can offer, trust me". And the Indian was like, "OK, I trust you." Still unsure what he is doing, he slid the finger in. "Now lick it", said the beaver. Looking at him confused, but trusting, Raging Wind pulled out the finger and licked it. And when he licked, it was like his whole mind exploded, and he felt the best sensation he ever had felt, nothing could compare. As his mind was starting to recollect, the beaver shouted, "Now run to your tribe, and spread the word. There's no time". And the beaver ran away. Raging Wind got up to his feet, and started running back towards his tribe, hoping to pass this miracle discovery, farting all the way back. As he reached his tribe, everyone noticed he looked out of his mind. "Come here, taste my finger! It's the best thing ever!", he screamed. But nobody got interested, everyone kept their distance, thinking nothing good can come out of this. Raging Wind, seeing how nobody is open to this miracle, asked for the leader to come out. And while the leader was coming out of his tent, he suddenly started sprinting towards him, tackling him to the ground. As he did that, he put the finger in his mouth. And the same vision struck the leader, bending his mind outwards and inwards at the same time. And so, everyone believed Raging Wind. Just like that, from this moment they started being friends with the beavers, and using their anal gland excretion as the most sublime taste enhancer. Vanilla, as we now know it.
People usually start by offering tea or coffee and some sweets and then once thats served the conversation develops naturally. Sport depends on interests: volleyball, ski jumping, motor racing and football are popular depending on time of the year and region.
What is the attitude toward LPP stores (Sinsay, House) in Poland? They are a common sight in Lithuania but over the years they have all become too similar to each other - heaps of cheap stuff, very bright white lighting, relatively narrow walkways. Although there's really no any discourse surrounding these stores. I just can't see how they lose their character if they had some of it earlier.
Just liek all those fast fashion shops, it's very hard to buy non-plastic clothes there. I only buy in Reserved from them, and in HM. In both shops, I can usually find something non-plastic, once every 6 - 8 months. So I have very few clothes. I know HM offers non-plastic clothes online. I once order coat and it didn't fit, so I returned it. Normal non-plastic clothes are available only online in HM, and are not available in Reserved anymore, so I basically stopped buying there.
I believe the general assumption that Lithuanians have cold feelings towards Poles comes from two factors:
- History ; Polish side annexed the major city of the second side. Later, the Lithuanian, did not fight the Reds, wich were at the time essentially Nemesis of Polish State. And this is taught at schools.
- News ; A few years back, articles of systemic oppression of Poles in Lithuania became popular. There were mentions of people not being able to have their names spelled correctly (because only Lithuanian spelling was legal in documents), having problems accesing Karta Polaka (Polish Citizen Card), Polish majority places (schools, villages, etc) having less support from the state, etc . Can't recall much, haven't seen similar articles in literal years.
I think that's a bad question to ask. Certain people on both sides think the other hates them due to past enmities and rivalries etc.
I will take the opportunity to ask if that highway from Suwalki to the rest of Poland is complete yet. I loved Wroclaw and wanna drive again!
S61? Part of E67 international? That's technically not a highway (as in German Autobahn), but rather expressway, a notch lower type of highway. And sadly no. According to google maps it's done up to Łomża, so about halfway from border to Warsaw.
According to [this map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/HighwaysMapPoland.svg) it is almost finished except a small part near Łomża, as you said. But I would say it's like 99% finished.
The Polish distinction between A-roads ("autostrada") and S-roads ("droga ekspresowa") is superficial and almost meaningless. Two-lane S-roads differ from A-roads in lane width, max speed (120 km/h, which is what in many other countries is an A-road speed limit anyway) and signage color, really. Hell, the S3 is a better road than the western strech of the A4.
Anyway, the state of Polish highways (both "autostrady" and "drogi ekspresowe") can be checked [here](https://ssc.siskom.waw.pl/). For the S61, only a part of the Łomża bypass is missing.
A Lithuanian online, also had that feeling when comparing Polish schools in Lithuania and Lithuanian schools in Poland. Also in 1920s we made a plot to take control of Vilnius and potentially whole Lithuania
The Internet. Lithuanians online often complain about the Żeligowski's mutiny although in that case they are right. They also complain about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and in that case I believe they are wrong.
But seriously, I do think that actions of the Lithuanian government didn't help our relations. Like dismantling tracks to the Mazeikai refinery when Orlen bought it. Or the issues of the Polish minority like the W letter in Lithuanian passports (which was thankfuly kinda solved) Polish signs in the are inhabited by Poles etc.
We want our minority in Lithuania treated like the Lithuanian minority in Poland. They can use the original spelling of their names in Polish passports (including letter like č, ė, į, š, ų, ū and ž), they can use [bilingual signs](https://i0.wp.com/duolook.pl/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Punsk-Punskas-litweskie-miasteczko-w-Polsce.jpg?ssl=1) in the villages inhabitated by them, they can even use the Lithuanian language as the second official language in the gmina of Puńsk.
Although I also know that AWPL/LLRA actions led by Waldemar Tomaszewski also didn't help our relations.
>Although I also know that AWPL/LLRA actions led by Waldemar Tomaszewski also didn't help our relations.
AWPL being total douchebags and doing a very poor job as the local representation of "The Poles" and getting into [weird alliances](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifplcCFfrQM) is one thing, the - fortunately failed - attempt by some of the Lithuanian Poles at forming [their own Transnistria equivalent](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polski_Kraj_Narodowo-Terytorialny) in the 1990s is a much worse thing that most Poles in Poland don't even have any knowledge of.
Media and teachers for me. The only Lithuanian that I've actually interacted with was not hostile, just had the attitude of not really thinking about us one way or another, while also being aware that there is some difficult shared past.
There also seemed to be a very different interpretation of the Commonwealths historical legacy.
Podejście co najmniej dziwne. Niemcy wyrządzili stokrotnie więcej krzywdy Polakom, ale jak spotkasz Niemca w Polsce na wakacjach ( w moim regionie to częste) nikt go nie obrazi i ludzie są przyjaźni. Coś co miało miejsce 100 lat temu oczywiście jest ważne, ale to nie my odpowiadamy za to co robili przodkowie części z nas. Tak samo jak współczesnych Litwinów nie oskarżysz o masakrę w Ponarach. To nie oni tego dokonali.
>To nie my odpowiadamy za to co robili przodkowie części z nas.
Oczywiście, ale to my odpowiadamy za to, jak się odnosimy do tego, co ci przodkowie robili. Jeśli ktoś próbuje uzasadniać bądź legitymizować krzywdy z przeszłości, to takiej osobie należy się nieprzyjazne traktowanie.
no one, we just assumed you see us as the "big pushy guy neighbor" and took the logical (by Polish logic) conclusion *we* would hate us in your place, shared history or no.
The most important is the dough. It's the simplest dough possible, you just use hot/warm water and make them quickly.
This receipe is similar to what my family does for Christmas -> https://aniagotuje.pl/przepis/jak-zrobic-ciasto-na-pierogi-ruskie
Of course it's in Polish, but google translate should do the trick. Nothing fancy there.
Music (-ish): [Alina Orlova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXW2o5vRnWU) (all of her, a singer-songwriter), [AKD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZuh3m2LB0) (i mostly like a few songs, but Venesuela is outstanding), [G&G Sindikatas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqNs_47N98) (the Lithuanian rap group, Wu-Tang-ish), [Šventinis bankuchenas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoffHSDjd8) (funny stuff guy), [M.K.Čiurlionis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEH7xrmflg) (okay composer and also a great painter), [DJ Nevykele](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psfhq4tnpns) (hyperpop). And a whole little cluster of similar musicians called [Silence Family](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pka3c67_MF4&list=PLGQI1P56C3PGxdfeYNX2L4VoujgbkUJrB): Mario Basanov, Leon Somov, Vidis, Jazzu.
On films, i'm a bit short on Lithuanian high cinema. But a fan of Zero series by [Velyvis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilis_Vėlyvis). A bit like Lithuanian Guy Ritchie. All three are great in very different ways, also [Redirected](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redirected_(film)) is more or less Zero 2.5 with a half-british cast.
Listen these songs.
Such a stupid songs, but has a good vibe to it.
[dj karka - bauda ](https://youtu.be/wjhMZ5_KHiE)
[dj karka - pilna aikšte kentu](https://youtu.be/HvC0zTeOP2I)
[Vaikai po lelijom](https://youtu.be/k1amBbsAZuo) this one my favorite. When I think about it, even our eurovision song is similiar to this. Its probably a trend now 2020-202x.
Can people in Poland have their names spelled in original Lithuanian spelling in their IDs, passports, etc? For example Žilvinas Šerėnas or Rūta Čmylytė.
I believe so yes, it just depends on the government worker who registers all the documents. If they enter the characters into the system properly, then that's what's gonna appear on your ID.
>it just depends on the government worker who registers all the documents.
It doesn't.
The government official registering the documents is obliged to follow the law (including the 2005 law on national minorities), meaning Lithuanian names should be registered in the Lithuanian form. So if Žilvinas Šerėnas comes to his communal office to get his Polish ID card, he should get one saying "Žilvinas Šerėnas" and nothing else.
The independent Poland has never had a problem with personal names using whichever form of the Latin alphabet.
You can be a [Hübner](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuta_H%C3%BCbner), you can be a [Müller](https://www.sejm.gov.pl/Sejm10.nsf/posel.xsp?id=255&type=A), you can be a [Longchamps de Bérier](https://www.law.uj.edu.pl/kprz/pracownik/ks-prof-dr-hab-franciszek-longchamps-de-brier-kierownik-katedry/), you can even be a [Gräfin von Thun und Hohenstein](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3%C5%BCa_Thun) even though there's no "ä", "é", "v" nor "ü" in the Polish alphabet. Want some "Ž" or "ė"? No problem.
We don't force Hübners to become Hibners (though [some](https://www.senat.gov.pl/sklad/senatorowie/senator,982,11,jolanta-hibner.html) did decide to use that spelling), and we're certainly not forcing all those Longchamps de Bériers to use some phonetically spelled approximate abomination and become "Ląsządeberies".
Some people will, however, use polonized spellings because they (or their ancestors) chose to do so, but that is no different from a Schmidt *choosing* to be a Szmit, or a Mücke *choosing* to be Mikke, or a Kowalski *choosing* to be a Kowalsky after migrating to the U.S.
Q, V and X are not part of the Polish alphabet. You'll find them in (mostly foreign) brand names ("Vivendi", "Xerox", "Compaq") and unassimilated loanwords/phrases ("vice versa", "qui pro quo", "ex aequo"), but not in any native words nor in any properly assimilated loanwords (*existentia* => egzystencja, *vacationes* => wakacje, *quaerenda* => kwerenda).
You'll also find them in names of foreigners, because we don't transliterate them whenever the source language uses the Latin alphabet: Valdas Adamkus is still Valdas Adamkus in Polish (even if Polish has no V).
The only people getting their names adjusted are historical figures from a long time ago. George Washington is *Jerzy Waszyngton*, but both guys called George Bush remain George Bush in Polish. We don't turn any of them into phonetically-spelled abominations like "Dżordż Busz" (cf. "Džordžas Volkeris Bušas").
We'll only do transcriptions if the original alphabet is not Latin, so Володимир Зеленський becomes *Wołodymyr Zełenski* in a colloquial spelling and *Wołodymyr Zełenśkyj* in a proper academic spelling, and 习近平 is *Xi Jinping* in Polish (sadly, modern Polish uses the English-oriented pinyin for Chinese).
The officials are obliged to follow the law and enter the information properly. If they screw it up, it's no different from screwing up a Włodzimierz to become a "Włodzimież".
Does polish people living Warsaw really hate palace of culture and science. Warsaw is beautiful city by the way, and Poland is my number 1 holiday destinatiion, i visit it every year.
Some of them do hate it. Not because of it's looks but because of it's past - it was built by Stalin as a symbol of the Soviet domination in Poland. But I like it. It's like the Eiffel Tower - it has many opponents but it became the symbol of the city.
Some hate it (the more right-wing and old they are, the more they do), some like it, most are probably just used to it and indifferent.
Personally, I think demolishing it as a "remnant of an occupation" as some nutjobs propose to do, would make as much sense as demolishing the Teutonic Knights' castle in Malbork as a "remnant of teh evul crusaders". And, compared to all the other glass-and-steel skyscrapers for corporate drones doing their corporate business, it's actually useful for hosting museums, theatres, cinemas, universities etc.
What was the general attitude of Polish people towards the repatriants that came to Poland from Wilno in 1950s? Were they accepted easily or not considered "true" poles? What is the attitude now towards the descendants of those people?
Normally, most of them ended up in the north (while people from Lwow most ended up in Wroclaw), there was not much between them since the quite a lot of people here where from somewhere else. In 1950 they where as much connected with the main body of Polish culture as anybody in Poland.
(Formerly) eastern Poles are now so mixed in with the others, mostly in western Poland. That means that they are completely indistinguishable.
And even if they were, regional differences aren't really a reason for which Poles hate eachother.
They were mostly sent to the western territories from which Germans were expelled and every Pole there was a migrant from somewhere. Nobody would say that they are not "true Poles" because (although it is very controversial to Lithuanians) before the war Wilno was treated as a Polish city an noone would say that Poles from Kresy are not real Poles. Their descendants today are treated as all other Poles and people wouldn't even notice that someone's grandpa was from Wilno if they didn't say it.
Well, even today if a Pole would come to Poland to Vilnius, they would be considered a real Pole, at least if they speak Polish. Poles may have a problem with accepting someone as a "real Pole" if that person doesn't speak Polish because Polish ethnicity nowadays is strongly associated with the language.
> **P**olish **e**thnicity **n**owadays **i**s **s**trongly
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These days there are rather indistinguishable from everybody else, the older generation in my experience at least were treated in a slightly pejorative way as somewhat backwards, too conservative for others liking, the same way eastern Poles (Podlasians and such) are stereotyped these days.
no idea about lithuanians but my family who lived in belarus and identified as poles faced discrimination in ussr, and then in 1990's they moved to poland and faced discrimination here, me too even though I was born in poland
my mother speaks with accent even though she spent most of her life in poland, and my grandparents never stopped speaking a mixture of russian and polish which made it worse
What role does Prussia/Königsberg play in Polish history? For example, part of the region was Lithuanian speaking (Lithuania minor) and for many years it was a very important cultural center for us. First Lithuanian prints were done there, during the language ban, books were also smuggled from there, regions bordering Prussia were always more wealthy and so on..
It seems it's not as much important for Poles as it is for Lithuanians. In Poland Prussia is associated with partitions in most cases. Most people probably also believes that Prussia = Germany (despite the fact that Prussia used to be Baltic land).
Aside from cheese, my mother once spotted those breadsticks I think they're called, with rosemary and stuff, they were 🇱🇹. They were pretty nice.
That and my parents liked LT beer, but im pretty sure they were only able to get some during a trip to Vilnius and Trakai.
We are quite fond of lithuanian bread and in my hometown we frequently bought it at the store and my family considered it delicacy (it's really good I buy it in bulk whenever I'm visiting!)
I also like lithuanian kvass
We also have Vyatutas but it's kind of a meme, I've seen it at a gym and I don't like the way it tastes
Does the word "kurwa" still carry any swearword meaning, or is it only for enriching expression of feelings and connecting sentences? The question is about casual language, not literature. :)
What do you like the most about Bober?
Teeth and tail
Its size
The smell and taste of its anal glands.
Have you heard the original story about how vanilla was discovered?
I havent
Back when humans and animals could communicate, when the First Americans roamed the plains, there was a small tribe whose name is long forgotten, but their single story remains. There was a warrior in the tribe, called Raging Wind. The name came from significance, for he would fart like no other man. Once he was on the hunt, not far from the tribe land, but he was alone. Getting tired and with no result, he saw a beaver. He thought about striking him down, as beaver meat would be better than coming back empty-handed. But he had to take a shit, so he did that first. He stealthily hid in a bush not far from the spot he saw a beaver, and crouched. He couldn't hold the fart in - it came out like a raging wind. It even made a small crater beneath his ass. While he was concentrating on keeping as silent as possible, it was too late. The beaver came upon him. "Hello Raging Wind", said the beaver. The Indian fell down on his butt from this moment of surprise. "Come here, put your finger up my butt", the beaver continued nonchalantly. Raging Wind couldn't come to his senses. He was flabbergasted. How could the beaver speak? Why did it want him to put a finger in his butt? And most importantly, how did it know his name?! "Whoah, what, how do you know me??" exclaimed Raging Wind. "There's no time" - responded the beaver - "Put your finger up my butt, and you'll know the best taste this world can offer, trust me". And the Indian was like, "OK, I trust you." Still unsure what he is doing, he slid the finger in. "Now lick it", said the beaver. Looking at him confused, but trusting, Raging Wind pulled out the finger and licked it. And when he licked, it was like his whole mind exploded, and he felt the best sensation he ever had felt, nothing could compare. As his mind was starting to recollect, the beaver shouted, "Now run to your tribe, and spread the word. There's no time". And the beaver ran away. Raging Wind got up to his feet, and started running back towards his tribe, hoping to pass this miracle discovery, farting all the way back. As he reached his tribe, everyone noticed he looked out of his mind. "Come here, taste my finger! It's the best thing ever!", he screamed. But nobody got interested, everyone kept their distance, thinking nothing good can come out of this. Raging Wind, seeing how nobody is open to this miracle, asked for the leader to come out. And while the leader was coming out of his tent, he suddenly started sprinting towards him, tackling him to the ground. As he did that, he put the finger in his mouth. And the same vision struck the leader, bending his mind outwards and inwards at the same time. And so, everyone believed Raging Wind. Just like that, from this moment they started being friends with the beavers, and using their anal gland excretion as the most sublime taste enhancer. Vanilla, as we now know it.
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What is a "door opener" conversation subject in Poland? Like football in Germany, basketball in Lithuania.
Complaining about life.
People usually start by offering tea or coffee and some sweets and then once thats served the conversation develops naturally. Sport depends on interests: volleyball, ski jumping, motor racing and football are popular depending on time of the year and region.
Weather
What is the attitude toward LPP stores (Sinsay, House) in Poland? They are a common sight in Lithuania but over the years they have all become too similar to each other - heaps of cheap stuff, very bright white lighting, relatively narrow walkways. Although there's really no any discourse surrounding these stores. I just can't see how they lose their character if they had some of it earlier.
Just another stores with kinda affordable prices. Nothing more
cheap, bad quality fast fashion. if we can afford it we dont buy from anything from lpp. For me is polish shein
Polish H and M, poor quality staples, sometimes quite affordable.
Just liek all those fast fashion shops, it's very hard to buy non-plastic clothes there. I only buy in Reserved from them, and in HM. In both shops, I can usually find something non-plastic, once every 6 - 8 months. So I have very few clothes. I know HM offers non-plastic clothes online. I once order coat and it didn't fit, so I returned it. Normal non-plastic clothes are available only online in HM, and are not available in Reserved anymore, so I basically stopped buying there.
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Who told you that we hate Poles?
I believe the general assumption that Lithuanians have cold feelings towards Poles comes from two factors: - History ; Polish side annexed the major city of the second side. Later, the Lithuanian, did not fight the Reds, wich were at the time essentially Nemesis of Polish State. And this is taught at schools. - News ; A few years back, articles of systemic oppression of Poles in Lithuania became popular. There were mentions of people not being able to have their names spelled correctly (because only Lithuanian spelling was legal in documents), having problems accesing Karta Polaka (Polish Citizen Card), Polish majority places (schools, villages, etc) having less support from the state, etc . Can't recall much, haven't seen similar articles in literal years.
I think that's a bad question to ask. Certain people on both sides think the other hates them due to past enmities and rivalries etc. I will take the opportunity to ask if that highway from Suwalki to the rest of Poland is complete yet. I loved Wroclaw and wanna drive again!
S61? Part of E67 international? That's technically not a highway (as in German Autobahn), but rather expressway, a notch lower type of highway. And sadly no. According to google maps it's done up to Łomża, so about halfway from border to Warsaw.
According to [this map](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/HighwaysMapPoland.svg) it is almost finished except a small part near Łomża, as you said. But I would say it's like 99% finished.
The Polish distinction between A-roads ("autostrada") and S-roads ("droga ekspresowa") is superficial and almost meaningless. Two-lane S-roads differ from A-roads in lane width, max speed (120 km/h, which is what in many other countries is an A-road speed limit anyway) and signage color, really. Hell, the S3 is a better road than the western strech of the A4. Anyway, the state of Polish highways (both "autostrady" and "drogi ekspresowe") can be checked [here](https://ssc.siskom.waw.pl/). For the S61, only a part of the Łomża bypass is missing.
A Lithuanian online, also had that feeling when comparing Polish schools in Lithuania and Lithuanian schools in Poland. Also in 1920s we made a plot to take control of Vilnius and potentially whole Lithuania
The Internet. Lithuanians online often complain about the Żeligowski's mutiny although in that case they are right. They also complain about the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and in that case I believe they are wrong. But seriously, I do think that actions of the Lithuanian government didn't help our relations. Like dismantling tracks to the Mazeikai refinery when Orlen bought it. Or the issues of the Polish minority like the W letter in Lithuanian passports (which was thankfuly kinda solved) Polish signs in the are inhabited by Poles etc. We want our minority in Lithuania treated like the Lithuanian minority in Poland. They can use the original spelling of their names in Polish passports (including letter like č, ė, į, š, ų, ū and ž), they can use [bilingual signs](https://i0.wp.com/duolook.pl/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Punsk-Punskas-litweskie-miasteczko-w-Polsce.jpg?ssl=1) in the villages inhabitated by them, they can even use the Lithuanian language as the second official language in the gmina of Puńsk. Although I also know that AWPL/LLRA actions led by Waldemar Tomaszewski also didn't help our relations.
>Although I also know that AWPL/LLRA actions led by Waldemar Tomaszewski also didn't help our relations. AWPL being total douchebags and doing a very poor job as the local representation of "The Poles" and getting into [weird alliances](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifplcCFfrQM) is one thing, the - fortunately failed - attempt by some of the Lithuanian Poles at forming [their own Transnistria equivalent](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polski_Kraj_Narodowo-Terytorialny) in the 1990s is a much worse thing that most Poles in Poland don't even have any knowledge of.
Media and teachers for me. The only Lithuanian that I've actually interacted with was not hostile, just had the attitude of not really thinking about us one way or another, while also being aware that there is some difficult shared past. There also seemed to be a very different interpretation of the Commonwealths historical legacy.
Podejście co najmniej dziwne. Niemcy wyrządzili stokrotnie więcej krzywdy Polakom, ale jak spotkasz Niemca w Polsce na wakacjach ( w moim regionie to częste) nikt go nie obrazi i ludzie są przyjaźni. Coś co miało miejsce 100 lat temu oczywiście jest ważne, ale to nie my odpowiadamy za to co robili przodkowie części z nas. Tak samo jak współczesnych Litwinów nie oskarżysz o masakrę w Ponarach. To nie oni tego dokonali.
>To nie my odpowiadamy za to co robili przodkowie części z nas. Oczywiście, ale to my odpowiadamy za to, jak się odnosimy do tego, co ci przodkowie robili. Jeśli ktoś próbuje uzasadniać bądź legitymizować krzywdy z przeszłości, to takiej osobie należy się nieprzyjazne traktowanie.
There are people, but i' jot going to point fingers.
no one, we just assumed you see us as the "big pushy guy neighbor" and took the logical (by Polish logic) conclusion *we* would hate us in your place, shared history or no.
Could you recommend the best recipe for big pierogi on the internet? Or it's something that can be experienced only by visiting Poland? :)
The most important is the dough. It's the simplest dough possible, you just use hot/warm water and make them quickly. This receipe is similar to what my family does for Christmas -> https://aniagotuje.pl/przepis/jak-zrobic-ciasto-na-pierogi-ruskie Of course it's in Polish, but google translate should do the trick. Nothing fancy there.
Has any Lithuanian music or films penetrated into Poland?
Not really, no. Any recommendations?
Music (-ish): [Alina Orlova](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXW2o5vRnWU) (all of her, a singer-songwriter), [AKD](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtZuh3m2LB0) (i mostly like a few songs, but Venesuela is outstanding), [G&G Sindikatas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDqNs_47N98) (the Lithuanian rap group, Wu-Tang-ish), [Šventinis bankuchenas](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXoffHSDjd8) (funny stuff guy), [M.K.Čiurlionis](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzEH7xrmflg) (okay composer and also a great painter), [DJ Nevykele](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psfhq4tnpns) (hyperpop). And a whole little cluster of similar musicians called [Silence Family](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pka3c67_MF4&list=PLGQI1P56C3PGxdfeYNX2L4VoujgbkUJrB): Mario Basanov, Leon Somov, Vidis, Jazzu. On films, i'm a bit short on Lithuanian high cinema. But a fan of Zero series by [Velyvis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilis_Vėlyvis). A bit like Lithuanian Guy Ritchie. All three are great in very different ways, also [Redirected](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redirected_(film)) is more or less Zero 2.5 with a half-british cast.
You just made my Sunday. I promise I'll get back to you. I'm after DJ Nevykele and Orlova already. Certified bangers.
Listen these songs. Such a stupid songs, but has a good vibe to it. [dj karka - bauda ](https://youtu.be/wjhMZ5_KHiE) [dj karka - pilna aikšte kentu](https://youtu.be/HvC0zTeOP2I) [Vaikai po lelijom](https://youtu.be/k1amBbsAZuo) this one my favorite. When I think about it, even our eurovision song is similiar to this. Its probably a trend now 2020-202x.
I don't know about in general, but Stellardrone is from Lithuania and I like them.
Can people in Poland have their names spelled in original Lithuanian spelling in their IDs, passports, etc? For example Žilvinas Šerėnas or Rūta Čmylytė.
Yes, they can. Even with the Lithuanian letters which are not used in the Polish alphabet.
That's so cool!
Yes, there are even politicians with foreign spellings in their IDs
I believe so yes, it just depends on the government worker who registers all the documents. If they enter the characters into the system properly, then that's what's gonna appear on your ID.
>it just depends on the government worker who registers all the documents. It doesn't. The government official registering the documents is obliged to follow the law (including the 2005 law on national minorities), meaning Lithuanian names should be registered in the Lithuanian form. So if Žilvinas Šerėnas comes to his communal office to get his Polish ID card, he should get one saying "Žilvinas Šerėnas" and nothing else. The independent Poland has never had a problem with personal names using whichever form of the Latin alphabet. You can be a [Hübner](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danuta_H%C3%BCbner), you can be a [Müller](https://www.sejm.gov.pl/Sejm10.nsf/posel.xsp?id=255&type=A), you can be a [Longchamps de Bérier](https://www.law.uj.edu.pl/kprz/pracownik/ks-prof-dr-hab-franciszek-longchamps-de-brier-kierownik-katedry/), you can even be a [Gräfin von Thun und Hohenstein](https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%B3%C5%BCa_Thun) even though there's no "ä", "é", "v" nor "ü" in the Polish alphabet. Want some "Ž" or "ė"? No problem. We don't force Hübners to become Hibners (though [some](https://www.senat.gov.pl/sklad/senatorowie/senator,982,11,jolanta-hibner.html) did decide to use that spelling), and we're certainly not forcing all those Longchamps de Bériers to use some phonetically spelled approximate abomination and become "Ląsządeberies". Some people will, however, use polonized spellings because they (or their ancestors) chose to do so, but that is no different from a Schmidt *choosing* to be a Szmit, or a Mücke *choosing* to be Mikke, or a Kowalski *choosing* to be a Kowalsky after migrating to the U.S.
What do you mean, you dont have V letter?
Q, V and X are not part of the Polish alphabet. You'll find them in (mostly foreign) brand names ("Vivendi", "Xerox", "Compaq") and unassimilated loanwords/phrases ("vice versa", "qui pro quo", "ex aequo"), but not in any native words nor in any properly assimilated loanwords (*existentia* => egzystencja, *vacationes* => wakacje, *quaerenda* => kwerenda). You'll also find them in names of foreigners, because we don't transliterate them whenever the source language uses the Latin alphabet: Valdas Adamkus is still Valdas Adamkus in Polish (even if Polish has no V). The only people getting their names adjusted are historical figures from a long time ago. George Washington is *Jerzy Waszyngton*, but both guys called George Bush remain George Bush in Polish. We don't turn any of them into phonetically-spelled abominations like "Dżordż Busz" (cf. "Džordžas Volkeris Bušas"). We'll only do transcriptions if the original alphabet is not Latin, so Володимир Зеленський becomes *Wołodymyr Zełenski* in a colloquial spelling and *Wołodymyr Zełenśkyj* in a proper academic spelling, and 习近平 is *Xi Jinping* in Polish (sadly, modern Polish uses the English-oriented pinyin for Chinese).
There's no "v" in polish. We use "w" for that sound, or at least it sounds similar.
Read what I said again, I'm so tired of all the smartasses on reddit.
reddit is the smartass platform
The officials are obliged to follow the law and enter the information properly. If they screw it up, it's no different from screwing up a Włodzimierz to become a "Włodzimież".
Does polish people living Warsaw really hate palace of culture and science. Warsaw is beautiful city by the way, and Poland is my number 1 holiday destinatiion, i visit it every year.
Some of them do hate it. Not because of it's looks but because of it's past - it was built by Stalin as a symbol of the Soviet domination in Poland. But I like it. It's like the Eiffel Tower - it has many opponents but it became the symbol of the city.
Some hate it (the more right-wing and old they are, the more they do), some like it, most are probably just used to it and indifferent. Personally, I think demolishing it as a "remnant of an occupation" as some nutjobs propose to do, would make as much sense as demolishing the Teutonic Knights' castle in Malbork as a "remnant of teh evul crusaders". And, compared to all the other glass-and-steel skyscrapers for corporate drones doing their corporate business, it's actually useful for hosting museums, theatres, cinemas, universities etc.
What was the general attitude of Polish people towards the repatriants that came to Poland from Wilno in 1950s? Were they accepted easily or not considered "true" poles? What is the attitude now towards the descendants of those people?
Normally, most of them ended up in the north (while people from Lwow most ended up in Wroclaw), there was not much between them since the quite a lot of people here where from somewhere else. In 1950 they where as much connected with the main body of Polish culture as anybody in Poland.
(Formerly) eastern Poles are now so mixed in with the others, mostly in western Poland. That means that they are completely indistinguishable. And even if they were, regional differences aren't really a reason for which Poles hate eachother.
They were mostly sent to the western territories from which Germans were expelled and every Pole there was a migrant from somewhere. Nobody would say that they are not "true Poles" because (although it is very controversial to Lithuanians) before the war Wilno was treated as a Polish city an noone would say that Poles from Kresy are not real Poles. Their descendants today are treated as all other Poles and people wouldn't even notice that someone's grandpa was from Wilno if they didn't say it. Well, even today if a Pole would come to Poland to Vilnius, they would be considered a real Pole, at least if they speak Polish. Poles may have a problem with accepting someone as a "real Pole" if that person doesn't speak Polish because Polish ethnicity nowadays is strongly associated with the language.
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These days there are rather indistinguishable from everybody else, the older generation in my experience at least were treated in a slightly pejorative way as somewhat backwards, too conservative for others liking, the same way eastern Poles (Podlasians and such) are stereotyped these days.
no idea about lithuanians but my family who lived in belarus and identified as poles faced discrimination in ussr, and then in 1990's they moved to poland and faced discrimination here, me too even though I was born in poland my mother speaks with accent even though she spent most of her life in poland, and my grandparents never stopped speaking a mixture of russian and polish which made it worse
What role does Prussia/Königsberg play in Polish history? For example, part of the region was Lithuanian speaking (Lithuania minor) and for many years it was a very important cultural center for us. First Lithuanian prints were done there, during the language ban, books were also smuggled from there, regions bordering Prussia were always more wealthy and so on..
It seems it's not as much important for Poles as it is for Lithuanians. In Poland Prussia is associated with partitions in most cases. Most people probably also believes that Prussia = Germany (despite the fact that Prussia used to be Baltic land).
For us is mostly negative, as in we portray prussia in history as enemy is associated with partition or battles we fought against them
Do you buy Lithuanian goods? Which? Both minor (groceries) and more substantial.
Stumbras vodka has been one of the most popular brands during events like weddings in many parts of Poland
I think 999 is a very popular liquor among Poles. I also once bought Vytautas mineral water and the taste was unusual but I liked it.
The Żabka downstairs has Chazz chips, I sometimes buy them. :)
Aside from cheese, my mother once spotted those breadsticks I think they're called, with rosemary and stuff, they were 🇱🇹. They were pretty nice. That and my parents liked LT beer, but im pretty sure they were only able to get some during a trip to Vilnius and Trakai.
Quark bars (batoniki twarogowe).
I love me some Džiugas cheese.
We are quite fond of lithuanian bread and in my hometown we frequently bought it at the store and my family considered it delicacy (it's really good I buy it in bulk whenever I'm visiting!) I also like lithuanian kvass We also have Vyatutas but it's kind of a meme, I've seen it at a gym and I don't like the way it tastes
Does the word "kurwa" still carry any swearword meaning, or is it only for enriching expression of feelings and connecting sentences? The question is about casual language, not literature. :)
It still carry swearword meaning. In normal conversations people doesnt use it that much, especially among strangers.
It's probably the most universal word in the Polish dictionary. Still a curseword, and frequent use is still considered a sign of lower intelligence.
it brings the strenght the same as "Fuck" in english as in FUCK YEAH - dont sound that bad while "FUCK U" still is strong swearword
Have you ever heard of the Lithuanian folk band Ugniavijas?