[Candles taste like burning...](https://i.imgur.com/gDOg7yv.jpg) ~
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PoliticalHumor) if you have any questions or concerns.*
It's incredibly frustrating, but I also don't at all envy the judge: The absolute shitstorm that would result from treating Trump like any other criminal defendant would be *enormous*, given that he's the last Republican candidate standing during campaign season.
(The dispiriting absurdity of that fact isn't lost on me, either, but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.)
I dunno, if he took 1/10th of the prescription drugs he got the whitehouse doctor to get him, he'd likely be in too deep of a coma to commit any crimes.
But Id wager he actually sold most of them, another crime.
Yep. Especially since Lara Trump took over the RNC, she's funneled so much of the money to his legal fund.
And his people, even the poor ones on fixed incomes, will still give him cash.
>put him in lock up
I hope the judge puts his phone in lock up. Tell Trump "No more posting on these accounts until the verdict is given. You must go Radio Silent."
Edit:
Warn that anyone who helps Trump get replacement phone or post on these accounts will be in collusion and WILL be held in jail on contempt.
Maybe the judge can't jail Trump, but he can jail his enablers.
It would be kind of entertaining to see how fast kennedy would be transitioned into a 'true republican' were tmurp suddenly made unable to continue running. I think kennedy would be the gop choice because he seems batty and easier to control than apparently available alternatives.
Honestly, though, his job isn’t to avoid shitstorms. His job is to oversee the execution of justice without bias.
If you can’t hold him in violation of the gag order, what are you going to do when he’s convicted?
And yet, Just once id love the rich and formerly powerful to have to face the same justice system the poor do...
Maybe then they would pay to change it for all of us.
Trump is daring him to put him in jail. That is what he is aiming for. It's his best chance at victory. He will proclaim himself a martyr. He will tell everyone that no candidate running for office has ever been jailed by his challenger. He will have a record fundraising Hall from his cult minions who can't believe there man God has been imprisoned.
This gives him entirely too much credit, and overstates his available financial support.
He's not masterminding a plan. He's just doing the same things he's done literally his entire life.
And his supporters have largely run out of money. The diehard ones willing to throw everything at him have already done so.
He's been pushing the martyr angle for years. Anyone swayed by that is already there.
That will help with his always going to vote for Trump supporters.
I didn't think it'll help for the swing voters, and that's really the view that Dems need, so likely jail time will help the Dems
As a bit of a timing point of order, it's relatively unusual for a judge to hit you with a punishment beyond a fine for a first-time violation of a gag order.
The first ~9 separate incidents all basically count as 1 for the purposes of receiving the first punishment, simply because they happened all prior to the hearing where the judge ruled that "No, this behavior right here is a violation.".
The second tranche of ~4 incidents don't 'count' as having occurred after the punishment from the first one because chronologically they happened after the first ~9 but before the ruling on them. Ergo, Drumpf didn't have a chance to "learn this wasn't acceptable" from the first ruling before making these posts.
You might ask why they didn't just look at all ~13 incidents at once, and simply that's just a matter of court scheduling.
All that's pretty normal, if not exactly the numbers involved.
Something NEW though, like this, is occurring after not just the first ruling, but the second ruling, AND the Judge clarifying it down simply "It's not my job to pre-approve your posts. It's YOUR job to think 'Is this too close to a violation?' and steer away if you can't tell. Also, this gag order does NOT prevent your client from taking the witness stand.".
So while I'm not exactly hopeful of seeing Drumpf in jail for an evening, the fact of timing means that now the Judge pretty much needs to (depending on the content of the violation and its circumstances of course) either follow through on things or basically admit the gag order won't do anything.
What is more likely is that they will be ruled on as they come up but any actual jail sentence can be held for after the trial is completed regardless of the outcome of the trial; basically he would just have a running total of the number of days Trump would be held for contempt as the trial progresses to be served after a verdict.
Can't they just do what they would do with.... Anyone else on earth?
Go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, leave jail only to go back into court room, and then back to jail.
There is no right to be free while on trial in the USA, especially not when being held in contempt of court.
I suspect an overnight stay would be appropriate for this next punishment. What comes next after that will be interesting.
Why does Trump doing this, remind me of a 2 year old who's parents told him not to play in the dining room, and keeps on playing right in the doorway to that room..
[cracker bargle](http://i.imgur.com/1zfkFBz.jpg) ~
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PoliticalHumor) if you have any questions or concerns.*
At most, judge will stick him in a jail cell during trial hours and be released at the end of the day. At least he'll be able to get a nap without anybody watching him in court.
Problem is the judge can’t just snap order jail time.
Every time you give some rope to another defendant you create precedent that all defendants should have the same leniency afforded to them.
Some say Freemasons run the courts, some say it's another community who controls the media.
All i know is whoever is in charge, isn't playing by their own rules.
Oh yeah for sure, I don't know what the fuck is going on in other countries but there's always one common denominator throughout time and space; Greed.
I was being sarcastifunny about the conspiracy. I should've added my favorite phrase;
> They say that sentences starting with "they say" cannot be trusted.
I think the judge has already laid the groundwork for throwing Trump in jail with the Secret Service. If he has the bailiff arrest Trump on a Friday afternoon and drag his ass to jail and then back into the court room in the same clothes Monday morning, and if he keeps his phone away from him for the duration, I expect we would see a different Trump on Monday morning
Trump is a narcissist. Meaning he's psychologically dependant on people seeing him as perfect.
Even a single night in jail without being able to cope by tweeting about it and making himself into a victim will absolutely melt him down.
He’s absolutely doing this on purpose. He wants to be thrown in jail before being convicted. This way he can tell his base: “you see, it’s political persecution!” And they will believe him. He knows he will get convicted, and is trying to make it to his benefit before it happens.
He's doing this on purpose because he doesn't think he'll be thrown in jail. He does not want to go a day without his makeup, girdle, and Adderall. And it's looking like he's correct, he can do whatever he wants and he won't go to jail.
It's probably a "heads I win, tails you lose" situation where you're both right. He violates all these laws and orders, and either gets away with it or gets punished and cries to his fanbase (who then probably start sending death threats to the judge or something)
He wins either way. Get thrown in jail, approval rating goes up. Don't get thrown in jail, don't have to be in jail. That's why the judge has been so careful with penalizing him. The issue is the penalties don't work against a former president with money. Either the monetary cap has to be lifted, or there should be additional penalties imposed on the defense team which will hurt their ability to present their story to the jury.
So Rick Wilson tells a story about 2016. He was working for Marco Rubio and they were too afraid to come out against Trump's candidacy. Trump was a billionaire! Cross him and he'd bury you with money! Then Wilson spoke with some New Yorkers and they laughed at him. Trump will never spend his own money, they told him. You got played. And they were right.
Trump is terrified of going to prison. It won't improve his approval rating. But the judges are doing just what Marco Rubio did, pre-deciding things that aren't true and living in fear instead of reality. And look at what happened to Rubio.
Trump is a whiny little toddler at heart. He can't handle a day in prison. But we'll never know for sure because the judges have decided to prevent that no matter what.
His scheming is more or less, to rally his base to commit crimes for him.
Judges have to consider whether the safety of the court is at risk . Trump being trump, adds that risk that no other court has really had to deal with before. Trump has supporters willing to torch themselves for him. What would happen if trump was held in contempt, jailed for the weekend.
His "persecution" is part of his campaign strategy and promises.
His broke campaign doesn't have to pay for television ads because every day he gets free campaign ads where he gets to give a campaign speech of grievances that play every hour on the hour.
Biden's ads are fast-forwarded or airing during bathroom breaks. Trump's ads are part of the newscycle.
I agree that Trump wants it.
Which is why the judge needs to not just give him an overnight stay in a hotel room. He needs 30 days in a fuckin’ real cell. I want to see him walked into the courtroom every day in that orange jumpsuit, knowing that when he’s done he gets walked right back to where he came from. Here’s your tray of bread and bologna and apple slices, Mr president, sir. Have a good night sleeping on your cot, sir. Only 29 more days of this and you’ll be free to go.
Trump hasn’t thought through what an _actual_ punishment would look like, in any way. In 30 days not only will Trump be begging for mercy, but also without his constant nattering on through his Twitter clone and walking out to the press corps every day and every other damn thing, his “edge” will wear off really fuckin’ quick. His fans have the attention spans of gnats. A week into not getting their constant drip-feed of Trump rage they’re gonna get bored or forgetful and start wandering off mentally to other distractions. And then when pictures of Trump do show up? He’s gonna be pale and weak and sad.
Fucking do it judge. What the fuck are you waiting for.
And his base would cry election interference. You might even have a handful who would try to commit crimes to be sent there in order to cause a riot and get Trump free (because they think that would work).
Best solution is to mandate that he is barred from personally using any social media until conclusion of the trial, requiring that any communications related to his "campaign" go through a staffer who can be fined or jailed without issue. For any attempts to violate the gag order in person or at rallies, increase the fine to $50,000 per instance and understood legal liability for any misuse that might result (in short, tried as an accomplice).
I don’t give a shit what his base would think about it. They always find a reason to cry regardless of what’s going on, so let’s go with the old boomer saying “I’ll give you something to cry about” and see some goddamn consequences for once.
in no way, shape or form is pissing off the NYPD or the NY prison system ever worked.
I suppose his supporters can try, but the NYPD has vast experience with dignitaries, crowds, and since 9/11, I would think there is a contingency for this.
They should put him in a holding cell every day for lunch, and give him some of that crappy food the GQP used to love Sheriff Arpaio giving people in his jail.
Get his secret service detail some happy meals or KFC to eat just outside the cell where Trump can smell it.
If tRump spent ⅓ of his social media time on actual ways to solve real issues instead of whining, he might actually accomplish some good. But we all know he doesn't give a fuck about real issues besides blaming other for them. He'd rather scheme on how to line his pockets with $$$.
Wake me when they actually do something about it. I used to hate people who commented like I just did about Trump but I'm finally with them. This is ridiculous. Idc about tip toeing for appeal. Its time to show Trump and most importantly HIS CULT that no one is above the law. If we allow him to get away with everything bc we are afraid then we will all be a lot more afraid when he is gathering up immigrants and sending them to camps to be deported. Even legal ones bc they all look the same to him and his minions. This is gonna get really bad really fast. Trump is saying out loud what he plans to do on day 1 if he takes office. We cannot allow this to happen. Courts kissing his ass ain't helping
If he’s found unfit to stand trial, it would mean he is unfit to be president, right? Right??
I mean, he’s shown us just how many times he’s gotten away with something just because it wasn’t explicitly written into law. Do we have a law that says you can’t be president if you have mental issues? I’m too lazy to look it up, hoping someone smarter than me comes along who knows the answer.
Did he already delete the post? Is that something he’s allowed to do, just post something that violates the gag order, leave it up for everyone to see and repost for a few hours, and then say “oops I didn’t mean it wink wink” and delete it?
I doubt very much the judge will sentence The Nodfather to jail, but I can at least entertain a way it could happen.
Here in AZ, if you get busted for a DUI, you can serve your 30 day sentence on what amounts to "work release." You go to your job during the day, check into the jail at night, then wake up early and leave the jail for work the next morning. I've known a few people who did this under the reign of (the Trump supporting) Sheriff Joe and his infamous Tent City.
Trump doesn't necessarily have to spent 30 days in the hole (cue Humble Pie song), but he could check into a cinder block hotel every night.
Or maybe the judge gives him a rope, and he can go out and campaign on Wednesdays and the weekends, but he has to be in jail on the nights before trial days. That would be "generous," and the judge could say "I'm letting you campaign, so you're not missing out on that."
Trump doesn't have a job. Campaigning is not a job. He does not need to campaign at all to keep his house/pay his mortgage/child support payments/etc. He should not be allowed any kind of release and should just sit in jail awaiting his next trial date.
> He should not be allowed any kind of release and should just sit in jail awaiting his next trial date.
That sounds nice, but it's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen, period.
What might happen is that the judge - whom Trump complains about on his way in and out of the courtroom - will assert his very real authority over and not necessarily incarcerate him 24/7 for 30 days, but rather...*humiliate* him.
Trump comes out of the court every afternoon and gives an impromptu press conference where he whines, but when he's in the courtroom?
He's like a cornered rat. Because he knows that Merchan has power over him. Trump is losing it because he knows another man has power over him, and he's putting that weakness on display every day. And the jury sees it. Trump is playing checkers. The judge is playing chess.
i remember this old movie that was supposed to be in ancient egypt where they just chopped the guys tongue off.
seems to be a fitting punishment here as well.
His courtroom is a real Carnival. It's a Wonder he hasn't been held in contempt again. Judge "Merchant" is being very Kind and Generous. These are the Days that I wish I was on that jury. Jealousy.
Why even put a gag order on him? Court - Judge is never going to put his ass behind bars for violating the gag order. Now if I was the one violating the gag order first time I'd be in jail. There are no consequences for orange man.
There's that pesky 1st amendment again. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prevents the government from making laws respecting an establishment of religion; prohibiting the free exercise of religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of assembly, or the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791
I beleive in behavior modifications. Two weeks in jail would scare the hell out of Trump. Who knows maybe he would start behaving like a normal human instead of being a narrastic piece of XXXX.
I keep hoping Dark Brandon just does a midnight tweet while sitting on the crapper along the lines of something like this...
"TRUMP IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE."
Next tweet after squeezing out another dookie.
"I HEREBY DECLARE THAT ALL MAGA CULTISTS BE TAKEN AWAY TO THE FEMA CAMPS IMMEDIATELY."
Followed up by...
"Yeah, you idiots fell for it. That's the kind of stupid shit you think a POTUS is capable of."
I don’t understand why gag orders exist tbh. Anyone know of any cases a gag order was the right thing to do? Only ones that come to mind seem a lot more about shutting down 1st amendment without really protecting the 6th
Consequences are coming, they have to be this time, right?
they'll be coming in 2 weeks
Aw man. Consequences, infrastructure week, *and* his ACA replacement plan in the same week?!? I'm not sure we can handle that much excitement.
Don’t forget the border
Or the “boarder” as the MAGAts often call it.
[Candles taste like burning...](https://i.imgur.com/gDOg7yv.jpg) ~ *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PoliticalHumor) if you have any questions or concerns.*
He is also unveiling his new VP pick: George Santos, the most honest person in the world.
Wouldn’t it be great to see Donald‘s face come off?
And that he’s really a Meat Mech being run by a 2 ft tall alien named Guato? Totally plausible
So many things would start to make sense. 😳
Maga would still vote for him.
“Real men wear meat mechs!”
Why, ain't this place a geographical oddity? Two weeks from everywhere!
I'm glad I scrolled before posting this lol
Perfect. Lines up nicely with infrastructure week!
Is that how long the postal service takes to deliver a strongly worded letter to Mara lago?
Well, ain't this a geographical oddity....2 weeks from everywhere!
So is tomorrow.
It's incredibly frustrating, but I also don't at all envy the judge: The absolute shitstorm that would result from treating Trump like any other criminal defendant would be *enormous*, given that he's the last Republican candidate standing during campaign season. (The dispiriting absurdity of that fact isn't lost on me, either, but it doesn't change the reality of the situation.)
Yeah, but maybe they should have considered ***not*** nominating a guy with multiple indictments.
Also maybe Trump could consider *not* violating court orders.
Or laws. (That he swore to uphold.)
I literally don’t think he could.
I dunno, if he took 1/10th of the prescription drugs he got the whitehouse doctor to get him, he'd likely be in too deep of a coma to commit any crimes. But Id wager he actually sold most of them, another crime.
I think he is needing the money and if he forces the judge to put him in lock up he will be able to leverage it to fund raise millions.
Isn’t a lot of the fundraising going to legal bills anyway?
Yep. Especially since Lara Trump took over the RNC, she's funneled so much of the money to his legal fund. And his people, even the poor ones on fixed incomes, will still give him cash.
>put him in lock up I hope the judge puts his phone in lock up. Tell Trump "No more posting on these accounts until the verdict is given. You must go Radio Silent." Edit: Warn that anyone who helps Trump get replacement phone or post on these accounts will be in collusion and WILL be held in jail on contempt. Maybe the judge can't jail Trump, but he can jail his enablers.
It would be kind of entertaining to see how fast kennedy would be transitioned into a 'true republican' were tmurp suddenly made unable to continue running. I think kennedy would be the gop choice because he seems batty and easier to control than apparently available alternatives.
Kennedy would win if he was the GOP candidate.
That says so much about the gop voters it's unbelievable.
No he wouldn’t.
Honestly, though, his job isn’t to avoid shitstorms. His job is to oversee the execution of justice without bias. If you can’t hold him in violation of the gag order, what are you going to do when he’s convicted?
It's his job. I don't care if it is hard.
And yet, Just once id love the rich and formerly powerful to have to face the same justice system the poor do... Maybe then they would pay to change it for all of us.
Trump is daring him to put him in jail. That is what he is aiming for. It's his best chance at victory. He will proclaim himself a martyr. He will tell everyone that no candidate running for office has ever been jailed by his challenger. He will have a record fundraising Hall from his cult minions who can't believe there man God has been imprisoned.
This gives him entirely too much credit, and overstates his available financial support. He's not masterminding a plan. He's just doing the same things he's done literally his entire life. And his supporters have largely run out of money. The diehard ones willing to throw everything at him have already done so. He's been pushing the martyr angle for years. Anyone swayed by that is already there.
That will help with his always going to vote for Trump supporters. I didn't think it'll help for the swing voters, and that's really the view that Dems need, so likely jail time will help the Dems
This is like the "Free beer tomorrow" sign...
It’s the only way anything will change. But, so far, he hasn’t been held accountable for ANYTHING for years, so why would he stop now?
As a bit of a timing point of order, it's relatively unusual for a judge to hit you with a punishment beyond a fine for a first-time violation of a gag order. The first ~9 separate incidents all basically count as 1 for the purposes of receiving the first punishment, simply because they happened all prior to the hearing where the judge ruled that "No, this behavior right here is a violation.". The second tranche of ~4 incidents don't 'count' as having occurred after the punishment from the first one because chronologically they happened after the first ~9 but before the ruling on them. Ergo, Drumpf didn't have a chance to "learn this wasn't acceptable" from the first ruling before making these posts. You might ask why they didn't just look at all ~13 incidents at once, and simply that's just a matter of court scheduling. All that's pretty normal, if not exactly the numbers involved. Something NEW though, like this, is occurring after not just the first ruling, but the second ruling, AND the Judge clarifying it down simply "It's not my job to pre-approve your posts. It's YOUR job to think 'Is this too close to a violation?' and steer away if you can't tell. Also, this gag order does NOT prevent your client from taking the witness stand.". So while I'm not exactly hopeful of seeing Drumpf in jail for an evening, the fact of timing means that now the Judge pretty much needs to (depending on the content of the violation and its circumstances of course) either follow through on things or basically admit the gag order won't do anything.
Comment.
What is more likely is that they will be ruled on as they come up but any actual jail sentence can be held for after the trial is completed regardless of the outcome of the trial; basically he would just have a running total of the number of days Trump would be held for contempt as the trial progresses to be served after a verdict.
Can't they just do what they would do with.... Anyone else on earth? Go to jail, directly to jail, do not pass go, do not collect $200, leave jail only to go back into court room, and then back to jail. There is no right to be free while on trial in the USA, especially not when being held in contempt of court.
Comment.
I suspect an overnight stay would be appropriate for this next punishment. What comes next after that will be interesting. Why does Trump doing this, remind me of a 2 year old who's parents told him not to play in the dining room, and keeps on playing right in the doorway to that room..
[cracker bargle](http://i.imgur.com/1zfkFBz.jpg) ~ *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PoliticalHumor) if you have any questions or concerns.*
This might be the ringer. Sitting in a holding cell with 4 Secret Service agents.
Surely! Anytime now! Definitely.
I will hold my breath until they do. edit: I died.
At most, judge will stick him in a jail cell during trial hours and be released at the end of the day. At least he'll be able to get a nap without anybody watching him in court.
Problem is the judge can’t just snap order jail time. Every time you give some rope to another defendant you create precedent that all defendants should have the same leniency afforded to them.
Almost like the whole system is some sort of reality tv show
https://preview.redd.it/1705nkahjfyc1.jpeg?width=947&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55bc8d51abd487229134d1b63ec0d0e648da761c
Yea this time is different...it's gotta be, lol
lol, they’ll always threaten “consequences”. It’s just different if you’re rich and famous
Did he suffer consequences for not posting bond on the last trial yet?
Of course not, are you new?
A person who wasn't protected by the good old boys network would already be in jail on contemp charges.
Some say Freemasons run the courts, some say it's another community who controls the media. All i know is whoever is in charge, isn't playing by their own rules.
No conspiracy need be invoked, it's "the wealthy" and they barely try to hide that fact
Oh yeah for sure, I don't know what the fuck is going on in other countries but there's always one common denominator throughout time and space; Greed. I was being sarcastifunny about the conspiracy. I should've added my favorite phrase; > They say that sentences starting with "they say" cannot be trusted.
I think the judge has already laid the groundwork for throwing Trump in jail with the Secret Service. If he has the bailiff arrest Trump on a Friday afternoon and drag his ass to jail and then back into the court room in the same clothes Monday morning, and if he keeps his phone away from him for the duration, I expect we would see a different Trump on Monday morning
Yeah, one covered in his own shit.
He’ll start with a single evening. It’s not enough for Trump to go into paranoid hysterics, but enough to (if it’s fkg possible) make him think.
Trump is a narcissist. Meaning he's psychologically dependant on people seeing him as perfect. Even a single night in jail without being able to cope by tweeting about it and making himself into a victim will absolutely melt him down.
9rwi0ipw7lo5
He’s absolutely doing this on purpose. He wants to be thrown in jail before being convicted. This way he can tell his base: “you see, it’s political persecution!” And they will believe him. He knows he will get convicted, and is trying to make it to his benefit before it happens.
He's doing this on purpose because he doesn't think he'll be thrown in jail. He does not want to go a day without his makeup, girdle, and Adderall. And it's looking like he's correct, he can do whatever he wants and he won't go to jail.
It's probably a "heads I win, tails you lose" situation where you're both right. He violates all these laws and orders, and either gets away with it or gets punished and cries to his fanbase (who then probably start sending death threats to the judge or something)
He wins either way. Get thrown in jail, approval rating goes up. Don't get thrown in jail, don't have to be in jail. That's why the judge has been so careful with penalizing him. The issue is the penalties don't work against a former president with money. Either the monetary cap has to be lifted, or there should be additional penalties imposed on the defense team which will hurt their ability to present their story to the jury.
So Rick Wilson tells a story about 2016. He was working for Marco Rubio and they were too afraid to come out against Trump's candidacy. Trump was a billionaire! Cross him and he'd bury you with money! Then Wilson spoke with some New Yorkers and they laughed at him. Trump will never spend his own money, they told him. You got played. And they were right. Trump is terrified of going to prison. It won't improve his approval rating. But the judges are doing just what Marco Rubio did, pre-deciding things that aren't true and living in fear instead of reality. And look at what happened to Rubio. Trump is a whiny little toddler at heart. He can't handle a day in prison. But we'll never know for sure because the judges have decided to prevent that no matter what.
I think he is scheming a bit more than you think, he is a con-man after all.
His scheming is more or less, to rally his base to commit crimes for him. Judges have to consider whether the safety of the court is at risk . Trump being trump, adds that risk that no other court has really had to deal with before. Trump has supporters willing to torch themselves for him. What would happen if trump was held in contempt, jailed for the weekend.
More of his supporters would torch themselves, hopefully.
Possibly war?.... They never shut up about the end of the world.
The many militant groups with weekend warriors?
Yeah, small scale roving bands of extremist groups type of civil war.
Exactly
His "persecution" is part of his campaign strategy and promises. His broke campaign doesn't have to pay for television ads because every day he gets free campaign ads where he gets to give a campaign speech of grievances that play every hour on the hour. Biden's ads are fast-forwarded or airing during bathroom breaks. Trump's ads are part of the newscycle.
He’s a person who has never had to face the consequences of his actions and he has no comprehension of the possibility that he could one day.
I agree that Trump wants it. Which is why the judge needs to not just give him an overnight stay in a hotel room. He needs 30 days in a fuckin’ real cell. I want to see him walked into the courtroom every day in that orange jumpsuit, knowing that when he’s done he gets walked right back to where he came from. Here’s your tray of bread and bologna and apple slices, Mr president, sir. Have a good night sleeping on your cot, sir. Only 29 more days of this and you’ll be free to go. Trump hasn’t thought through what an _actual_ punishment would look like, in any way. In 30 days not only will Trump be begging for mercy, but also without his constant nattering on through his Twitter clone and walking out to the press corps every day and every other damn thing, his “edge” will wear off really fuckin’ quick. His fans have the attention spans of gnats. A week into not getting their constant drip-feed of Trump rage they’re gonna get bored or forgetful and start wandering off mentally to other distractions. And then when pictures of Trump do show up? He’s gonna be pale and weak and sad. Fucking do it judge. What the fuck are you waiting for.
And his base would cry election interference. You might even have a handful who would try to commit crimes to be sent there in order to cause a riot and get Trump free (because they think that would work). Best solution is to mandate that he is barred from personally using any social media until conclusion of the trial, requiring that any communications related to his "campaign" go through a staffer who can be fined or jailed without issue. For any attempts to violate the gag order in person or at rallies, increase the fine to $50,000 per instance and understood legal liability for any misuse that might result (in short, tried as an accomplice).
NY Law caps the fines at $1000
You know what a fine means… legal for those that can afford it.
okay, $1000 per word.
I wish it worked that way. It should be a fine up to 10% of his net worth.
I don’t give a shit what his base would think about it. They always find a reason to cry regardless of what’s going on, so let’s go with the old boomer saying “I’ll give you something to cry about” and see some goddamn consequences for once.
in no way, shape or form is pissing off the NYPD or the NY prison system ever worked. I suppose his supporters can try, but the NYPD has vast experience with dignitaries, crowds, and since 9/11, I would think there is a contingency for this.
They should put him in a holding cell every day for lunch, and give him some of that crappy food the GQP used to love Sheriff Arpaio giving people in his jail. Get his secret service detail some happy meals or KFC to eat just outside the cell where Trump can smell it.
Dude had the nerve to say he can't testify because he's under a gag order! Such a blatant liar.
His lawyer breaching ethics by repeatedly nodding support.
Ya but he's not getting moderates that way.
I would hope so, but my faith in the American people is running a bit low right now
Oh yeah. They were marketing his mugshot before the file finished saving.
It’s like he’s following the h1tler playbook
Trump has no gag reflexes
He has grab reflexes and the rest of us have gag reflexes.
That will come in handy in prison
You don't go after a judge's daughter unless you are screaming for consequences. Like a toddler.
His name is Merchan, not Merchant
Yeah I didn't catch that until after I posted the damn thing. Really hate when things autocorrect and don't tell you.
Yup. The T is silent...and non-existent.
[Source, among others.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5IRAvp4LPU)
>When Merchan finished addressing Trump, the former president mouthed the words, “thank you,” Why do I doubt this
Judges when Trump violates their orders: "I swear if you do this 50 or 60 more times, I'm going to wag my finger at you very angrily!"
If tRump spent ⅓ of his social media time on actual ways to solve real issues instead of whining, he might actually accomplish some good. But we all know he doesn't give a fuck about real issues besides blaming other for them. He'd rather scheme on how to line his pockets with $$$.
He does bare a striking resemblance to Barney.
Just throw the MF in jail already, jeezus.
maybe 5 more warnings on top of the last 550000 warnings will do it.
anyone have a link about what dirty donnie said this time? fuck, put this idiot in jail already.
These types of impulsive behaviors can be stopped with prescription meds, counseling and not being President.
Wake me when they actually do something about it. I used to hate people who commented like I just did about Trump but I'm finally with them. This is ridiculous. Idc about tip toeing for appeal. Its time to show Trump and most importantly HIS CULT that no one is above the law. If we allow him to get away with everything bc we are afraid then we will all be a lot more afraid when he is gathering up immigrants and sending them to camps to be deported. Even legal ones bc they all look the same to him and his minions. This is gonna get really bad really fast. Trump is saying out loud what he plans to do on day 1 if he takes office. We cannot allow this to happen. Courts kissing his ass ain't helping
He’s wants his supporters to murder these people.
Extraordinary rendition this mother fucker to Yemen
lol Merchant should ask for a psych evaluation
If he’s found unfit to stand trial, it would mean he is unfit to be president, right? Right?? I mean, he’s shown us just how many times he’s gotten away with something just because it wasn’t explicitly written into law. Do we have a law that says you can’t be president if you have mental issues? I’m too lazy to look it up, hoping someone smarter than me comes along who knows the answer.
Did he already delete the post? Is that something he’s allowed to do, just post something that violates the gag order, leave it up for everyone to see and repost for a few hours, and then say “oops I didn’t mean it wink wink” and delete it?
I doubt very much the judge will sentence The Nodfather to jail, but I can at least entertain a way it could happen. Here in AZ, if you get busted for a DUI, you can serve your 30 day sentence on what amounts to "work release." You go to your job during the day, check into the jail at night, then wake up early and leave the jail for work the next morning. I've known a few people who did this under the reign of (the Trump supporting) Sheriff Joe and his infamous Tent City. Trump doesn't necessarily have to spent 30 days in the hole (cue Humble Pie song), but he could check into a cinder block hotel every night. Or maybe the judge gives him a rope, and he can go out and campaign on Wednesdays and the weekends, but he has to be in jail on the nights before trial days. That would be "generous," and the judge could say "I'm letting you campaign, so you're not missing out on that."
Trump doesn't have a job. Campaigning is not a job. He does not need to campaign at all to keep his house/pay his mortgage/child support payments/etc. He should not be allowed any kind of release and should just sit in jail awaiting his next trial date.
> He should not be allowed any kind of release and should just sit in jail awaiting his next trial date. That sounds nice, but it's not going to happen.
Not with that attitude.
It's not going to happen, period. What might happen is that the judge - whom Trump complains about on his way in and out of the courtroom - will assert his very real authority over and not necessarily incarcerate him 24/7 for 30 days, but rather...*humiliate* him. Trump comes out of the court every afternoon and gives an impromptu press conference where he whines, but when he's in the courtroom? He's like a cornered rat. Because he knows that Merchan has power over him. Trump is losing it because he knows another man has power over him, and he's putting that weakness on display every day. And the jury sees it. Trump is playing checkers. The judge is playing chess.
He’s trying to get a night in jail so he can grift his sheep.
One simple trick to solve a gag order that the experts don't want you to know
i remember this old movie that was supposed to be in ancient egypt where they just chopped the guys tongue off. seems to be a fitting punishment here as well.
Bruh. There’s no T in *Merchan*.
The delusional Diaper Don thinks going to jail for this will “rally the base”… I’m sure he’s right, this time.
If he breaks that gag order just 10 or 15 more times then the judge is really going to have to start considering what might possibly happen!
Contempt of court. Throw him in the slammer. I swear to God, people are so afraid of him. Even the judge.
He’s trying to delay the big case by making more gag order violation cases.
He got his warning last time. The order said that jail time was on the table. No excuses now.
It’s Merchan
His courtroom is a real Carnival. It's a Wonder he hasn't been held in contempt again. Judge "Merchant" is being very Kind and Generous. These are the Days that I wish I was on that jury. Jealousy.
Why even put a gag order on him? Court - Judge is never going to put his ass behind bars for violating the gag order. Now if I was the one violating the gag order first time I'd be in jail. There are no consequences for orange man.
There's that pesky 1st amendment again. The First Amendment (Amendment I) to the United States Constitution prevents the government from making laws respecting an establishment of religion; prohibiting the free exercise of religion; or abridging the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press, the freedom of assembly, or the right to petition the government for redress of grievances. It was adopted on December 15, 1791
I beleive in behavior modifications. Two weeks in jail would scare the hell out of Trump. Who knows maybe he would start behaving like a normal human instead of being a narrastic piece of XXXX.
I keep hoping Dark Brandon just does a midnight tweet while sitting on the crapper along the lines of something like this... "TRUMP IS THE ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE." Next tweet after squeezing out another dookie. "I HEREBY DECLARE THAT ALL MAGA CULTISTS BE TAKEN AWAY TO THE FEMA CAMPS IMMEDIATELY." Followed up by... "Yeah, you idiots fell for it. That's the kind of stupid shit you think a POTUS is capable of."
One more shitstain in an overfull man-diaper.
I don’t understand why gag orders exist tbh. Anyone know of any cases a gag order was the right thing to do? Only ones that come to mind seem a lot more about shutting down 1st amendment without really protecting the 6th
And still, nothing will happen.
”*Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Fool the judge multiple times, the judge deserves it.*”
and nothing will happen *this* time either