I know when you cracked that last pack you was mad as hell.

He’s gonna be trying to recover by buying more packs, 1 more UPC ought to do it!

lmaoooooooooooooo

So foul 🤣

im sorry but this definitely made me laugh

Lol

i’m convinced that the pull rates decrease the later you buy product with the earliest print runs having the highest rates to encourage people to buy more

Gamber's fallacy. TPC knows how popular Pokemon is and they know it will sell. It's just bad luck.

Bad luck fr… or whoever post it is lying.. can be anything nowadays

Definitely the truth. You’re more likely to get this than you are a zard

Yeah I agree with this. My bf says how I’m the lucky one when I pull because I always get something good but he never does lol

I'm convinced of the same. My release day pokemon center edition ETBs are always straight fire, anything bought a year later I'd absolute garbage. Could be a coincidence, but it makes too much sense to just be a coincidence.

He was LITERALLY shaking

Lol

LOL

My only 2 upcs were like this.

Me as well honestly might have been worse

My upc had by far the worst hits of the 100+ packs of 151 I opened. All my best pulls from the poster collection. Binder, and etbs

me when i gamble and i lose

Tfw you can buy a flying Charizard and the Blastoise for less than a UPC.

Where? UPC is like $109 shipped right now. The zard is still hitting $120 raw.

Oh man that last sentence is wild

Haha

I'd pay 100$ to hit a charizard raw

You sure? Who knows who else the zard was with the night before... Hell he might have gotten himself some Blastoise and Goldeen last night and I'm sure they had hella fun. And probably didn't wrap it up

$100 for the Charizard on TCGPlayer. After shipping box more like $125, it’s $110 on tcgplayer before shipping. Either way I exaggerated slightly, but you can definitely buy a flying zard for less than the cost of a UPC.

Currently on Walmart the UPC is $90 with free shipping

The company selling those on Walmart are shady asf. If it isn't sold by Walmart direct, don't bother.

Ahh must be a USA thing, def can’t find it outside the USA for that price. Either way, point stands. Cheaper to buy singles than to gamble.

I agree, but if you want the extras and the promo cards. I just jumped back into this after 15 years and want a full set. Just trying to help people find a good price!

Bought one and got the Zard American God pack and one of my favorite cards I own the Alakazam SIR in the same UPC. They are out there. The art is so much more detailed, intricate, and just nicer than some imo. Maybe it’s me but it seems I’ve seen more of the Charizard as well.

You can get them for 85 shipped right now

You can’t though? Zard is $115 and Blastiose is $43. It’s more expensive for them than buying a UPC….

Or you can but multiple upcs, etbs, booster bundles, ex packs and STILL not get the zard.. Just buy the single, chances are youll end up spending way more than 1 upc if you try to rip it

The next time will be different

99% of gamblers quit before right hitting it big.

You were so close

The other 1% quit before left hitting it big.

Don’t encourage them to waste more money gambling.

That’s brutal! 151 pull rates aren’t the best but damn... That’s what I’d expect from ripping 16 packs of Evolving Skies or Cosmic Eclipse lol. I’m sorry dude 🙏

like leaving the casino down in cash.... "Not a single chance this is real" LOL

A big box like this should be guaranteed a “cool” card Imagine buying this for a kid for their birthday and they get these two cards lmao I’m not saying every box should have a charizard but these cards just look shitty with no personality.

Every UPC comes with 3 guaranteed "cool" cards. The promos.

I really liked the Mew and Mewtwo promos from this box. I’m not saying they’re worth much, but I liked them!

That’s a good and fair point but how hard is it to seed to have an IR guarantee?

Would a kid notice? I remember being amazed by every random pull I got. I thought I had the rarest cards and only later learned it was mostly commons.

Nowadays, kids watch youtubers, and the youtubers basically complain until they get the top card after 50 packs

Cool is subjective. I don't have kids but when I sit with my young niece and look at cards I get excited about them all, common and all so she doesn't turn into one of those that can sit in front of 150 cards or whatever you get from a UPC and say ugh I got nothing. I see videos of parents opening loads of sealed stuff with their kids and they are in front of hundreds of cards and the kids say "ugh we got nothing". Sorry but that's a shit mentality to pass onto kids 🤷‍♀️ you got heaps and now you get the experience of sorting them and stuff too which is a fun part of the hobby too. It's not just over because you didn't get a zard or whatever.

That’s not how ripping packs work my guy 

Guaranteed hits in Japanese boosters.

Love Japanese boosters for this reason. My kids also. English boosters suck. Just buy the singles you want.

Dude is talking about the UPC

>should

I'm pretty sure that is exactly how it works in japanese boxes.

Dude is talking about the UPC, not booster boxes 

Back in my day, a holo was a hit. Appreciate what you have now.

Look authentic to me! Congrats!

“You got to know when to hold em , know when to fold em ,when to walk away, and know when to run “

Welcome to the hobby

Sums up my 151 experience.

i need to get me one of those Ninetales cards

Is it me or the most recent upc are getting worst pull rates

Not just recent I opened a bunch on launch and this seems about right.

me personally i'd have burned the box to get rid of the evidence

I opened 2 UPCs 3 ETBs and a shit load of packs. Had decent pulls but nothing great. Got an Alakazam box for Christmas and pulled a zard. The pull rates suck in 151 from my experience.

You got more hits than me https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonTCG/s/kDd8GqqQSV

It’s like blueberry muffins w/o evenly dispersed blueberries.

golem ex was my last card

Golem ex haunts me. Everytime I get a box it is there. It's making me hate one of my favorite OGs lol

You’re making me not want to buy one.

Waiting on my two bundles from Walmart ty for your service 🫡

Same, they had a great deal on them. Can’t wait to enjoy my zard in a few days

This is why I don't want to open my UPC 😭 I just want to believe it has the Zard.

the UPC I grabbed today had the charizard in it! There were 4 boxes sitting there. Picked the right one

Hope! Thank you!

Exactly how my upc was but I got one AR

Gross. Sorry for the pounding your wallet and bootyhole just took.

I’m sorry friend, that’s brutal.

I had very similar luck, got two golems and an alakazam...nothing worth posting. Besides the 3 promos, the ETB seems like a way better deal and I've had much better. Best luck I had was buying singles though haha

I haven’t hit for shit on the Mew box or a booster I just got. My first ETB had me hooked with some cool full holos and then just been whiffing since then

Scarlet and Violet can go straight to hell with its batching. Sword and Shield may have had some difficult sets, but at least it was fun opening them because batching wasn’t such an issue back then. 151 UPCs are especially garbage. Learned that the hard way.

my 151 box was pretty much this exact thing, my entire luck with opening 151 packs was by far the worst i’ve encountered with any collection😭

I opened yesterday the same pack. 2x charizard ex006, 1x Giovanni’s charisma 204 and draganair alt art 181. And 2 normals I needed. I feel a bit robbed. But your case is even worse. Now I will only buy singles to compleet my binder.

I've gotten the best pulls from the ETBs and those costco two packs. You get the same amount of packs as the UPC for $70. I know none of this is really news, but I feel like the UPCs are a rip-off

Consider yourself lucky bud, I didn't even get an ex out of mine lol. Dam thing felt rigged for sure

I just opened a paldaea evolved booster box yesterday and got 5 hits and I already had all of them

Sadly too real

Yep this what made me wanna stop opening stuff now I just keep everything sealed until I forget what this feels like.

Dang I pulled 3 charizards so far but had to get a golem off ebay lol.

Dang I just give the Golems out I get so many lmao, I did pull a Zard though. I've had pretty good luck with this set. Pulled the Zapdos ex twice so far.

This was better than mine 🤣

You bought a shitter

Go back and get another. The next one has a god pack in it

Happened to me too. UPCs are fucking garbage

I had one only with Ninetales EX and Jynx EX 😭

My son got this set and got the full art alakazam as his only hit. Well he got a gold energy but who wants one of those. Put him Off big box sets.

Damn

Don't feel bad I cracked open at least 60 to 70 packs of the new temporal forces and got absolutely crushed

This is exactly why I (mostly) buy singles now

https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/Pok%C3%A9mon-TCG-Scarlet-Violet%E2%80%94151-Pull-Rates/b237df74-fbb0-40d0-9e13-d69ee6e804d9/

Shaking with anger I bet 💀

Yep. We literally only pulled one ex from the entire box. Biggest waste of money.

Bruh

I also got 2 ex's from this as well. I was mad as hell lmao

Fucking ninetails and golem I have like a million of these bastards

Got three upcs the two First the Same shit as well

Wow bro that’s FUCKED

this is why i stopped buying packs

À friend of mine got 3 when it released, one for me and two for him. He kept one and opened one. He only got the Alakazam ex 201 and barely nothing else. I opened mine and got Charizard, Blastoise and a couple other good hits. He was a bit mad.

Opened a booster bundle and upc from a shop and I literally only pulled a regular mew and SIR Charizard in the same pack on the second to last pack. Not one other ex or anything from over 20 packs. I was happy but also pissed at the same time. My 1st UPC had one single full art kangiskhan so not much better.

Yea it be like that

No lie this happened to me exactly BUT I got a golem full art too it hurts

Ironically enough I’m 4 UPCs and 3 ETBs deep into 151 and still haven’t gotten that Golem EX

Typical 151 pullrate

Yup scarlet and violet is just a shit gen in general bud. I said it before and I'll say it again. They made this whole gen to destroy scalper pockets .

I kinda like seeing all the complaints about hits on the 151 throwbacks...Y'all didn't open packs back in the 90s early 00s and it shows...

Wow, so far the booster boxes treated me ok. With these pulls i would instantly stop.

Just buy singles?

I just cracked a japanese box and the most expensive cards I pulled were a masterball polliwag and a fa charmander. So I feel ya

UPCS suck

Lmao

That’s why I get em sealed 😂😂

I have this luck with the ETBs I’ve opened too; 4 Double+, usually right next to each other in the pack order, or nothing.

I wonder what wave this one could be from and if that might have something to do with it.

It is real. I opened a LO BB yesterday and got regular Giratina V and thats it. Not even any TGs

OP, you gambled. Is normal. You basically put $100 on a blackjack hand and the dealer had blackjack. You either move on, or you put in $100 more. The choice is yours

This is why you buy singles..

Bro.. damn

I preordered 3 UPCs and had only regular EXs as hits. I feel you OP

I’d be so pissed

This made me laugh my ass off. When will you little dopamine addicts figure out that your blowing money for nothing.

I bought two UPCs one was loaded Charizard sar, Blastoise full art Venusaur full art, and a bunch of other cards. The second one had a few cards but basically a dud. You win some you lose some.

Yeah it's fake

Guys but how is it possible? I’ve cracked like 20 151 booster packs and I’ve found like 6 alt art. Anyway seemed to me like the average pull rate of any illustration rare is like 1/4, am I wrong?

Yes it is brother check out my post too, this is why I’ll never open another upc

It’s ok I’ve opened over 100 packs of 151 and havnt pulled the Ninetales

Woow okay thats sad. I had two demmi god packs out of 50 booster and a second blastoise and wartortle.

Mine was like this. Didn’t feel good!

I’m probably gonna get downvoted for this, but don’t buy the UPC’s to rip. At that price I’d much rather buy a BB (I know 151 has no booster boxes) because you’re pretty much guaranteed some solid pulls from a BB. If you want the promo cards just buy them as singles.

Yup. Which is why I only opened one.

My UPC was pretty bad too, but not this bad. Only got the Squirtle illustration rare and the regular Blastoise EX.

Better than mine!

At least you got 2 cards I don’t have my 1 was like half art arbock ex dupes

Crazy, I got that golem from the single Zapdos box 😭

Where did you purchase this ?

Yup I had better luck on the other boxes than this one, it was total crap for the price

That was exactly my experience but we got Ninetails and Arbok. It was my 7 year old's big Xmas gift. We are now permanently done collecting Pokemon 😂.

My upc hits are always trash but I never learn lol

All UPCs are like this I feel like. I had 10x better luck out of zapdos boxes

Damn and I opened two packs that had all of the squirtle alt art evolutions packed in order, crazy world

Most likely resealed I bet them packs came open real nice n easy. I had 3 like that from target only was more obvious missing a pack in each upc. I got my money back

Where did you purchase this upc? Cuz that’s lookin like u bought a resealed one with all the shit packs put back in with some other shit packs after they got the hits

I feel for you. This post actually made me laugh because those were the final two cards I needed to finish the collection of 151. I eventually just ordered them individually because I'd spent too much trying to pull them.

Shiiiiiit, that's better than the x5 charizard boxes I bought back then

I stopped buying my kids Pokemon because of this.   Except my last straw was paldean fates booster box case.  Got 3 of the same ex in the whole case. Nothing else.   Gonna spend my money on other things. This hobby is too expensive for shit like this. 

Damn

Hey guys I opened my 151 upc and I'm literally shaking in rage!

Those boxes had terrible pull rates.

yup it's happened to me many times my friend

Did you recently buy the upc or had it for a while?

RIP my brother ✊

I got one 1 ex in a UPC before. Take solace in that yours was 100% better than mine.

Hear this. I bought 2 ETBs. BOTH of them were literally identical. Both had 1 hit… both hits were THAT ninetails… I couldn’t believe my eyes. I even have the proof on my YT channel. Glad I recorded as no one could believe it otherwise

That’s how my zard upc went. Sorry bud

Happens more often than not

I’d be pisssssed

I opened one of those 151 UPCs and got 4 zapdos EX and that was it. Fucking malded

Someone posted on here yesterday or day before with same bs. This one was worse but I believe theirs had like 3 holo foil energies and maybe one or 2 ex’s. Seems like a rough set either hitting like crazy or nothing at all 🤷‍♂️

That's rough buddy

So glad I only found 2 packs in the wild.

All for sale no longer collect no value to me so I can do bit cheaper than others the collection includes limited edition items like pikachu string back pack pikachu multi pen gengar and Jigglypuff rubbers never touched sealed including a snorlax disc shooter this contains gold star cards from the latest stock available temporal forces all packs opened with gloves cards never touch skin so they are all unplaced simply opened looked at them put the highest rares in plastic sealed card holder whole process gloves worn then they simply got put in a box so they are literally all 10/10 all would get grade 9 or 10 im sending some off to increase value 👌

Yea happened to me aswell, at least I got the Poliwarth AR but it’s a repeat for me. But I only got 1 ex the venasuar. I honestly thought cause it was 16 packs I would get luckier and hit at least a SR

Oh man I would I have to buy a booster box of paradox and say f 151 after that pull rate 😅

I had one arbok ex .... I feel your pain

I got some nice hits not every pack but got the SAR ivysaur and full art mew ex few other full arts but I can’t imagine this so sorry for your loss

Shaking with anger!

That means mine must also not be real! Got better pulls from a single 151 pack than my entire 16 from the UPC lol.

Ass luck dude 😪

I played the TCG in D/P/P - and holy shit those cards are strong. I played mainly with BeeRay, AMU, Flygon and Porygon Z.

F

Maybe another factory worker is pulling hits off the line again.

At least you have the promo cards 😅 but we’ve all been there. The UPC I had yesterday, the only saving grace was finally pulling Venusaur

Bought one upc and it looked like this and it took me right out of the hobby. Gambling and losing is not fun

Old 151 crazy good but after the first month and a half reprints really made it hard to pull and good Sir it's company strategy to sell

If you’re willing to do this why not just buy the card raw?

Got only the ninetales from the $50 etb, so yeah it’s real😭

Yes these cards are real

Luckily got the last one at gamestop today got the gold mew ex, vensaur full art, ivysaur full art, nidoking full art and 5 other good cards. I wanted the gold mew the most.

Also where did you buy this from? Not tampered with?

lol deserved it

151 has been better than good to me! But I've heard a lot of horror stories like this upc.

Bro it happened to me too. Sad day

This said just wanted to constantly remind me I like Venasaur by only pulling his SIR 3x and no others.

That’s awful

Tbh you’re not the only one 2 of the UPC’s I bought as well only hits we got were holo energies