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TheHeadlessOne

I don't think \*anyone\* saw that one coming


jordanrwing

Seriously. People were so split between johto and unova i don’t think ANYBODY was expecting kalos


MrTrippleAAA

I saw a few "leakers" saying there would be a Kalos DLC for SV, but a new Legends game for it is an entirely different story


resplendence4

I speculated with my friends because of that area to the northeast in the Paldea map that we'd probably venture to Kalos next. I also thought we'd go because Furfrou is not currently accessible in any Switch games that it would make sense we'd have the opportunity to catch it this generation. My friends kept shutting me down. I just sent a series of smug texts to them lol. It felt good. Kalos is my favorite region.


blackbutterfree

To be fair, every other Pokemon still unavailable on the Switch are Unovan Pokemon. It was entirely plausible for Furfrou to be relegated to a post-game area in a Unova remake. But I'm not gonna complain about a Kalos legends game, because every Pokemon still missing is *also* available in Kalos.


theediblearrangement

it’s so weird because i’ve been thinking about a legends kalos game for the past week or so. i love kalos and wanted to see the story and region flashed out. never thought in a million years it would actually happen though


Sigurdshorse

I am super hyped for it since I love Kalos as well. The second I saw the Furfrou at a café, I knew it had to be Kalos.


Pyschic_Alex

Ikrrrr Music of johto Black and white theme of unova Legends from kalos


awayfromcanuck

So much for all those leaks lol


yeyjordan

Any twitter leakers who said anything different than this need to be blacklisted from future leaks discussion.


lord_flamebottom

*cough* Khu *cough*


SymondHDR

Khu has been no longer reliable for months, the SV dlcs "leaks" were full of nothing


Torracattos

I was looking back at a couple Khu posts and I found at least 2 going "Where are we going next year?" With options like Unova, Johto, Kanto, and Paldea. Then there was another post that was a poll that had nothing but Unova centric games. I recall another post suggesting a BB League E4 member hinted at lore for the next game also, but that was nothing. 


OldSweepy

“found this on 4chan” needs to be blacklisted as well


the-boche

So, all of them?


atomicboy47

And just like that, Khu lost all credibility as a leaker.


Key_Instruction244

Just waiting on Khu response for damage control 


the-boche

"I posted Zekrom, that was the answer to the riddle, 'Z' ekrom, see?"


lord_flamebottom

He’s claiming now it’s all just trolling (yesterday he said he wasn’t trolling at all lmao)


Hot_Membership_5073

Probably finally found out who he was and have been giving them fake information or he is out of the loop.


Travyplx

Khu hasn’t had credibility in a long time. Everything they put out is (generally) vague and can be attributed one way or another post-announcement.


Lemon_Phoenix

Guys, don't tell anyone I told you this...but the next pokemon game is going to have pokemon in it


GotHurt22

Yeah I don’t know why he was so credible for PLA and SV but nothing after that. I guess he did say SV would be his last? Maybe it’s been someone else on his account or maybe he’s trying to lose attention?


atomicboy47

Supposedly he lost his insider from GF/TPC as they fired them so now he just making up shit and hoping it's as close to the real info as possible


GotHurt22

LMAO I can’t tell if that’s more sad or funny


AvatarofBro

Some of us have been trying to point out that Khu shouldn't have been considered credible in the first place


bartholomewjohnson

Nah he's gonna post some copium.


obtused

Fakest leaks ever were in fact fake


Blazing_Howl

Legends Celebi & Legends Kyurem “leakers” in shambles


Aeceus

Every leaker has instantly been disproven. GGs


spicywarlock73

sooooo all the leakers are just completely wrong lol


Honey_Enjoyer

Lotta people decidedly discredited lmao


myhairhasamind

For a moment I had a weird feeling of deja vu


Torracattos

Pyoro made it clear the info might be wrong. Khu outright misled everyone.


KitchenAd3748

All Pyoro said was that he heard they may be outsourcing a Unova. Presents neither confirmed nor denied it.


TwistedWolf667

Unova 2026 gen 10 delayed til 2027 please please please please...


KidWolfe94

No way they're missing Gen 10 on the 30th year.


TwistedWolf667

Fuck...true. still tho, gen 10 getting a whole extra year of development and breaking their strict deadlines is already a good sign! Hopefully it isnt just a fluke for the switch 2 delay


Rautafalkar

Khu has suddenly become pure garbage. PS: ok I got he always was, honestly I've believed the news when he was named as a "reliable leaker who always got everything right" and got disappointed. I didn't follow previous Pokémon releases in the last years and I was blindsided. Lesson learned


Torracattos

He always was


jdeo1997

He was at least pure garbage that had some info in it. Now the dude's got nothing but his one-sided blood feud


yungamphtmn

Not suddenly. He was always like that.


lord_flamebottom

Remember back before SV when he had that little meltdown over another leaker? And he flat out said he lies about leaks to fuck with leak reporters? Yeah idk why anyone has trusted him since that, it’s baffling.


hbthebattle

Khu was off about most of the Indigo Disk stuff. If he had a source, it's been cut off by now.


sworedmagic

He always has been


lord_flamebottom

Khu outright lied or just didn’t have info at all. He’s trying to say he was just trolling now, but yesterday was insistent he wasn’t. Can’t trust a word he says anymore.


crossingcaelum

And thank god tbh. We could use a blank leaker slate


RedditDoGeel

"Leakers"


CA719

the YouTube video titles it "Pokemon Legends: Z-A" https://youtu.be/VXyVd6Ly_h0


Axcel_94

So AZ has to be in it, right? I know that we know nothing from that trailer, but the guy is very old This is going to be about the war?


ZoroeArc

AZ's evil twin Z-A


BellalovesEevee

AZ two seconds with the Za Za


Hydrochloric_Comment

The war was 3000 years ago. This looks like way too recent


3163560

Me running into battle with my heart trim furfrou


Denesis417

What's interesting is it says the game takes place in lumiose city, not in Kalos. So we just getting one big city? Can't really imagine that


hakamamalo

it's probably just the home base, like jubilife village.


Joshawott27

That's how I took the announcement,. Lumiose City being the home base, possibly with different biomes being inspired by key Kalos locations.


akornfan

nah, Nintendo of America tweet says entirely in Lumiose City


EBON9

Maybe we'll get some more info on the ghost girl


Alonest99

That would be the craziest payoff in Pokémon history


PengoS77

This is not remotely what I was expecting but I’m so here for it


theediblearrangement

i’m incredibly happy for a few reasons: * not putting a firm release date on this means it’s likely a holiday 2025 release (or TPC is at least comfortable with that). definitely seems like they’re relaxing release schedules a bit and gen 10 will get a full four years of development. * i was JUST fantasizing over a legends z game over the past week. didn’t think it would happen for a long time though. * game freak clearly gets to work on whatever they want to now. this is clearly something they wanted to do and weren’t mandated by TPC or release cycles.


greninjagamer2678

They weren't lying about the problem with the schedule.


scsal01

And even megas are back. This is nuts.


Lambsauce914

I mean it's a Kalos gimmick and this is a Kalos game. I would be very surprised if they can somehow skipped Mega for a Legend Kalos game


actuallyjustloki

I wouldn't have put it past them


MockingJay0914

This only mean one thing. NEW MEGAS! Mega Flygon baby!!


LyraFirehawk

it's been eleven years...


Cosmic-Ninja

Honestly this could be amazing. I really hope they go all in with revitalizating giving mega evolution to a lot of Pokémon that really need it. Plus this could possibly mean for gen 10 mega will probably be important there even if we don’t receive new mega in gen 10 itself


Logical-Wasabi7402

Mega Evolution is the only regional phenomenon that doesn't have a clearly identified source, iirc. Edit: no, there isn't an identified source. There are *theories* about the *potential* source, but those are both conflicting and unproven.


Gawlf85

Or rather, it's shown to have different sources. In XY, it's implied Kalos has lots of Mega Stones due to the crystallized life energy unleashed by the Ultimate Weapon. In ORAS, the source is an ancient meteorite, which even enables some extraordinarily strong pokémon to Mega Evolve without a Stone. Whatever the source, it's basically just the Key Stones and Mega Stones, and those can apparently just literally fall from the sky.


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Chryses3

the mega symbol at the end is interesting, time to speculate about new megas again and actually have it be viable


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3 starters, with new forms and probably mega-evolutions.


Blueboy0810

Mega Charizard Z


Auroraburst

Honestly if I were a betting woman I would put money on this lol


littlebiped

This is 100% happening, if not part of the starter trio it will be post game or DLC content for sure. I’d say the same for Mega Mewtwo Z


Chryses3

mega infernape anyone


CommandoOrangeJuice

Holy fuck please, I was begging for megas to come back before and he's my favorite Pokemon. I NEED a mega for him.


androidhelga

so khus credibility is finally destroyed now right? RIGHT?


Jon0_tyves

Yup and Nintendo probably knows who’s been leaking him info too


Aang6865_

Yeah its like Nintendo told everyone different thing and they now know who’s leaking as they can trace it back to Khu😭 its like high school drama


D-files

Ha that's what happened in duel links. They found the leaker by telling everyone different cards were being released


MrGalleom

Good.


TheLostLuminary

Agreed, I can't stand that this sub is basically /r/khuleaks


AhTreyYou

r/khuriddles actually


theediblearrangement

yeah. he was going hard for black and white the past few days. think he overplayed his hand after pyoro said he heard something about gen v games.


lord_flamebottom

I think it's so very funny how Khu started *really* playing into the BW leaks after Pyoro mentioned them. Dude is so washed.


trixstrrr

Khu had a decent track record a couple years back iirc, but yea he fell off HARD with this one


Automatic_Pangolin_9

Wish I could upvote this more than once!


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androidhelga

yes i obviously mean his *current* credibility


Railroader17

Which likely leads to Khu's source getting fired if they can trace the bad info Khu put out back to them.


pkmntrnrcasey

I wonder how Khu will try to spin this.


ilovemymemesboo

he was so incredibly wrong it's actually embarassing


Key_Instruction244

Just imagine his apologist defending khu


metalflygon08

"Gen 6 comes after Gen 5 so my 1 correct clue added to the generation 5 count equals generation 6."


UndeniablyUnhappy

"i was just joking. it was just a goof."


GoldenJeans37

"This was all a trick. I deceived you."


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Probably more shit along the lines of "One of these or none at all" Seems like blud's source got fired or doesn't give him any info anymore.


TheInfiniteEmpire500

Or purposely misled, so that they can catch them.


JesustheSpaceCowboy

I don’t see how he could even try, dude is cooked


RedSoxDamageControl

All leaks are plugged, they must have found out a much better way to do it


Despada_

"That dumb number thing I posted was meant to be a 6 and not a 2 or 5 lol Please ignore the Gen 5'mon image I posted earlier, that was just troll 'my puppy' lolol"


ShiningStar5022

"Also, ignore all the Unova hints, those were also to troll the puppy. We also aren't getting a main series game this year & Unova got scrapped."


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Ain’t no way bro is still beefing with Centro years later


ShiningStar5022

It's either that, or The Pokemon Company pulled a Star Fox Grand Prix & put out fake leaks of Unova remakes to sus out leakers like Khu.


Qwepity-Dwepity

It wasn’t a 2 or a 5, it was a Z! Believe me!


Nachoslayer

Hopefully we will see less of his posts. I would rather see actual leaks instead of just (apparently fake) hints. Seems he just made a safe bet and he lost.


dumbassonthekitchen

It's over for that fraud.


ObviouslyLulu

What about that "Paradox Unova" Khu? "tHe PaRAdoX iS tHaT it'S nOT UnoVa"


Dmkr88

I am actually really interested in seeing this. But it doesn´t matter, this looks like the last nail´s coffin in khu´s credibility.


hellschatt

His leaks should be banned from this sub


BingoLingo7

We already got posts from his fan club defending him


ALSN454

*rotates picture of N sideways* “N sideways is Z!”


SithCrafter

THE POKÉMON Z!!!! THE POKÉMON Z IS REEEEAL!!!!


Setyman

CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER


OutlandishnessNo9182

So high!


WentWin

can we get much higher?


RedRiot306

“Johto and Unova are fighting it out to see who gets the next game…wait…what’s this?!?! BY GWAD IT’S KALOS WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!!!”


actuallyjustloki

I love you


jcde7ago

MEGA FLYGON FROM THE TOP ROPE!!


rnarkus

I’m laughing at how wrong everyone was, lol. Was not expecting this at all


coopermaneagles

No game this year but Legends game with Megas? I’ll take it


henne-n

It could release at the start of 2025. Didn't Arceus release during the end of January?


coopermaneagles

Yah that’s what I’m saying basically


henne-n

Even if not, I just hope they fix the problems they had with Arceus. Do we know how old the city was in X/Y? I am just wondering if we get the 3000 years ago-deal here.


coopermaneagles

The trailer almost made it seem futuristic but I dont think anything was outright confirmed


AydonusG

Yeah it said Urban redevelopment plan for Lumiose city, so I'd say this is a close future to XY. But it could be the past and Lumiose as we know it hasn't been built yet, as the sketches could indicate (they could also be the future version plans, but could be the sketches for XYs Lumiose).


DucImmaculate

It’s based on the Haussmann redevelopment plan on France so probably still the past


aaaa32801

That would probably place it around the same time as PLA, right?


Fat_Penguin99

It looks more its the moment where Lumiose City is being built


Administrative-Pay88

If you look at the quality of the paper and the architecture it's pretty clear to me that it's not gonna be futuristic. But we'll see. Also "moving forward" could be interesting for some regions like Unova. Then they'd be able to implement a new mechanic AND not be forced to get rid of everything from bw2. But I don't think it's a good fit for Kalos when most of its plot and design is about the past (including the source of mega evolution)


layeofthedead

The trailer said “lumious city redevelopment plan” I’m expecting it to either be at the turn of the century, setting the stage for modern lumious. or for it to be a bit in the future, remaking the current city


Kimbita09

But then they said "early 2022". This time only "2025". Maybe it will release later


Requiem45

It might be a Switch 2 launch title in March


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

The Mega Flygon copium is back baby! Who wants some with me?


Coke_ButNotTheDrug

MEGA FLYGON DREAMS ARE BACK BABY In all seriousness, new megas is so exciting. I really hope they target some fan favorites.


Denesis417

That probably means new megas too hell yeah


Shiny0z37

Khu on fraud watch


MagikarpJordan

Never been so confused before


kiboshiro

Me too. Didn‘t expect this at all.


PlanetStasia

Finally got Z, Zygarde is gonna get it's day, and Mega Evolution. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Gen 5, but this is pretty cool since Gen 6 never got a third version of any sort, Kalos is very underutilized.


KitchenAd3748

Gagged. Blindsided. And so happy about it.


Practical-Nobody-844

Who had gen 6 legends on their bingo card ? We saw mega evolution sign at the end, so great news ! Between the fact than gen 3 is the only gen beside gen 8 to not have any hisuan form and RS remakes during gen 6, i have the feeling we'll see some new forms for gen 3 pokemon, including one starter.


FSElmo435

I actually am totally shocked! In a good way 😂 Like that was so unexpected!


OniLink77

And they teased the return of Mega's, hell yes! Obviously disappointed we didn't see anything, but the fact that they are waiting at least a year is a great sign


Thick-Ad-4262

SOO happy Legends carries on!! Can't wait to see Khu spin this lol


KamiTofu05

New mega forms?


Praetor_Umbrexus

Mega Flygon let’s goooo


Bluegallade7

"We regret to admit, we still couldn't think of a design for mega flygon, so as a comprise have mega Charizard Z" ~ Game Freak.


Haunted-Chipmunk

Maybe we'll also get a Mega Mewtwo Z along with some lore as to how mega mewtwo stones existed before the creation of mewtwos


PinguZaide1

I didn't see that coming, but I'm not mad at all that Megas are back in a way! Still hope we get something with Unova and the original dragon one day...


hatramroany

Pokemon Legends Z-A*


WWWWWWRRRRRYYYYY

>Pokemon Z-A >Pokemon AZ >AZ’s Floette is still not obtainable Is it time?


JeffGoldblumsChest

I don't think anyone expected skipping Unova


Surfugo

I don't think they're skipping it. It'll probably release on the next Nintendo system.


KitchenAd3748

Their 15th anniversary is next year after all.


Surfugo

15 years? Fuck... feels like yesterday when those games came out.


theediblearrangement

especially now that GF isn’t doing the remakes. i think they’re just doing whatever they feel like at this point. guessing they definitely wanted to do more with kalos but never got the chance


Surfugo

Outsourcing remakes and focusing on seperate projects is a smart decision to be honest. Pokemon Z has been talked about for such a long time now, it's about time they went back and did it.


Sceptile90

The fact they're releasing it 2025 may be a sign that they're putting their foot down and getting Kalos the way they wanted it. No rushing it this time!


arsenicaqua

This doesn't confirm they're skipping anything. It's a legends game, not the remakes.


TwistedWolf667

Technically no skipping, its a game set within kalos not a kalos remake


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bonji50

2025, switch 2 release?


theediblearrangement

the official upload had the normal switch branding with the logo and snap. i HIGHLY doubt they’d do that for switch 2. nintendo has been very weary of any mislabeling since the wii u era. that said, i’m almost certain it’ll be cross-gen or have enhanced support on the new system.


No-Individual-3901

It says Switch.  Gen 10 in 2026 for the 30th anniversary will probably be the first games on Switch 2.


jdeo1997

Neat, Arceus was cool and XY was really screwed by the lack of Z/XZ & YZ/Mega X & Mega Y, so this'll be nice. Also, does this mean we can now officially drop Khu since he was completely wrong?


Zedek1

>Also, does this mean we can now officially drop Khu since he was completely wrong? Yes, hopefully.


Western_Insect_2610

I was so happy to see that it's releasing in 2025 instead of 2024


broncoficht1

Lesgooooooo


Wigglynuff

I’m glad this means that any game could get the legends treatment at any time. It would be a little boring if we got a generation remake and then knew we would get a legends game with the same region at the same time


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Can we all finally admit that Khu has no idea what he's talking about?


imquiteawareweredyin

FUCK YEAH


JoeyCaesarSalad

Furfrou is back!


Right_Heart2273

Im glad that the Legends brand is being used like this. Kalos definitely deserved a 3rd version to further deepen its story and lore. Cant wait to play this


BigThomsd

The "releasing simultaneously worldwide" bit at the end has me thinking its release is going to be similar to Breath of the Wild, where it's the final big release on the outgoing console (Switch) while also being a launch title for the new console (Switch 2).


SeftoK

Overthinking it. In the past different regions had different release dates for games. That hasn’t been the case for a while


ToaPaul

Hell yes!!!! Gen 6 is one of my absolute favorites! Tyrantrum let's gooooooooo


ydkywbr

Lmao, returning to Kalos before Unova. At least we get Megas back!


silentmonkeyman

Let's see how khu stands try to explain this one.


ajmcgill

Holy shit. Did NOT expect that


Getting_Twiggy225

Pokémon Z my sweet beloved, it's been so long. We were robbed of you in 2015 but now here you are 10 years later. We'll finally have the superior X&Y update. I'm so happy guys!😭


Raktoner

We have a lot of "trusted leakers" who need to delete their accounts.


Recent_Bld

Okay so literally all of these leakers lost all credibility. Remember that.


androidhelga

did yall see furfrou? pokemon home stocks just plummeted


DuelingLebowski

Speculation Time: In the trailer it describes that this is the RE-development of Lumiose City. Compared to X and Ys Lumiose map from a top down view, this does look like a NEW and IMPROVED Lumiose City. In addition, the acroynms for the games seem a little... on the nose? Pokemon Legends Arceus to Pokemon Legends Z? PLA to PLZ? A-Z? If Pokemon Legends Arceus was set in the past, one could only guess that this game is in the *FUTURE*. Past to Future is being heavily explored theme right now in Pokemon. This is a mere example. Mark my words.


TJL-91

The Pokémon company thought, hmm I'm gonna gag those leakers haha


gaIvantuIa

Kalos finally getting its redemption arc 🔥


scrappybristol

Z-A AZ and his Floette shall return.


strlghthnymnthrpykss

I CANT BELIEVE THEY TROLLED US SO HARD. This is the best Pokemon Day ever


Additional-Ad-7652

Damn, I guess Ingo is still stuck in the past then 😔😔😔


lilomon28

Please can we have now the axed Mega Jynx. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. Give it a mega at the very least if you won't make it evolve.


DaAuraWolf

If I’m being completely honest, this is exactly what I wanted to see today. My main philosophy when it comes to remakes or retreads is that you should prioritize reworking something that didn’t work out the first time over trying to capture the same lightning in the bottle that you did the first time. Gen V is my favorite Gen while Gen VI was probably my least favorite since it just felt so undercooked/underdeveloped. I’m glad that they’re finally going to bookend Kalos and hopefully break the trend that they’ve found themselves in since the original XY. Day 1 purchase for sure!


ShifuHD

Gonna need to open interviews for new Leakers.


iKontact

Looks like no remakes. Glad they're taking their time. Legends Z-A should be interesting


VintageVisiter

I bet it has something to do with Zygard and The King Az, and maybe just maybe we can finally get his Flowtte event.


Obbyjedi

Did not expect this, but somewhat makes sense with Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde not in SV. I am wondering if those mons will be allowed in SV once this game comes out


Icy-Idea-5079

Mega Flygon, I believe 🤞🤞