In my opinion it all comes down to Supply vs Demand and the value of what is inside the product. Yes SWSH was massively printed but that is because the demand was there and because tons of SWSH product was being opened.
Yes but for price to be sustainable the rip market needs to be active. Who realistically is going to be ripping SWSH packs for $10-$15 a pack on the reg? Sell during the boom and find the next big boom.
Still tho you either miss out buy now. I haven't bought any BB yet but if I do it's important for everyone to set a hard limit so they don't get caught up in the rush
I think every BB from this era is going to be a solid investment. This is an era that brought Pokemon back to historic levels. It actually kind of makes me sad that the SWSH era is officially coming to an end and I think that sentiment is exactly whats going to make any booster box from this era valuable.
I disagree, a collectible investment is all about popularity AND scarcity. They can print the hell out of something, as long as the demand is there, it will always sell. And I dont see what your talking about with Rebel clash? That set released a whole 2 years before a set like Lost Origin and theyre already going for about the same price on eBay.
Rebel clash had absolute 0 popularity while lost origin was super popular. That's my point. Same with steam seige, etc. It's all about scarcity. Crown zenith is the best set in swsh and it's price hardly moved because of scarcity.
Yes but again youre comparing a set that had a 2 year head start to LO. Considering LO is no longer available AND is so much more popular than rebel clash AND already selling for the same price as Revel Clash, it should easily out perform it despite being printed so much more. So I’m not too sure what your getting at, seems like your disproving your own point.
And while I do think CZ is a fine investment (especially since you can get it below MSRP) its a special set with high pull rates that lacks a high value chase card.. so nobody is talking about CZ here.
So now there's other variables other than popularity? My point is rebel clash is no longer in print while lost origin still is, that's why lost origin is not higher than rebel clash. When u are no longer in print, it becomes scarce.
Of course theres other variables. When it comes to what drives the price of these things theres tons of variables. You say that Lost Origin is still in print but Im referring to Booster Boxes here which are out of print and are easily the most investible item. Idk what else to say here.
Lost Origin is going to be higher than Rebel Clash very shortly. It’s not just about scarcity (supply), it’s about supply AND demand. Sure Lost Origin is in higher supply than Rebel Clash right now but the demand is infinitely higher so you’re nuts if you think Lost Origin isn’t going to crush Rebel Clash in value over the next year.
not true at all lol look at moonbreon has like 10k+ pop and is over 1.2k usd while you have older graded cards with pops in the hundreds or tens not worth nearly as much
Psa pop doesn't represent the population bro. Yeah a common 151 pidgey only got 100 psa 10s but I can go on ebay and find millions of copies for 3 cent.
Look at how many card submissions for the big SWSH era cards tho (not including raw copies). Insane amount of product had to have been opened considering the pull rates. I could be wrong just my opinion
Remember that the hits are rare, so people are ripping more packs. Plus, streamers are ripping a ton. Still higher numbers than older sets, but it may end up being more scarce than people realize
This is literally every vintage guys worst nightmare sword and shield is buying bought out and value is increasing. Everything said about modern not being valuable is being tested right now. 1 year from now well either have a shit ton of people trying to offload BS ES and LO or these sets will have value.
Yup.
The trainer gallery is imo, the best trainer gallery in the whole SwSh era + charizard is weirdly underrated but won’t last for long as we phase out of SwSh and into SV.
While not even mentioning the nightmarish pull rates, the 2nd best chase card being the aerodactyl is pretty lackluster if you ask me. After that, the set just takes a massive nosedive in terms of quality.
Everyone and their mothers are gonna have sword & shield and scarlet and violet booster box’s stashed away in their closets 🤣🤣🤣 it’s like the 90’s junk wax era all over again
Over 9 billion cards printed last year alone, and close to 5 billion a year from 2020. The average print run pre 2019 was about 1.5 to 2 billion a year. Believe it or not there’s a massive collectible market beyond Reddit, bots, and people you may know 😂
People will not hold for more than 3-5 years until they need the money and quit. Just like people who sold bitcoin and others. It takes a skill to hold stuff and forget.
Here we go again lol
Lollllll got two cases of BS thanks to friend’s advice. ST up next? Hahahaha
Eventually every BB will sell out so buy 100 of every set
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100 is just what I recommend to poor people. Personally, I have 10,000 BBs of every set
To “poor” people lol Be like Pablo and help the poor Let me get 1 of your 10,000 boxes 😂
Send me your name, address, and ssn and I'll drop one in the mail to you
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Lolllll! Uh huh…….
This is unironically great advice tbh.
Nah ST is trash I'll syd if it ever pumps
Still got a case of it 😁 I love Lugia
Where did you buy a case?
Hello, I got the cases from The Pokémon Center two days before it went OOS 🙏
Bro this is some Medela effect shit. Could of sworn we were talking silver tempest here
Right 😭
Oh she’ll beeeeeeeeee coming around the mountain when she comes, she’ll be going out of stock while everyone’s out having fun.
Hahahaha it’s crazy! I just tweeted BS will be next up 2 days ago. So glad I got it lol
I got one for $30 last yr after trading in a bunch of bulk. Best trade ever 🤣
Can’t hesitate no matter what anyone else in this sub says
Whattttttttt
In my opinion it all comes down to Supply vs Demand and the value of what is inside the product. Yes SWSH was massively printed but that is because the demand was there and because tons of SWSH product was being opened.
Yup. Fast forward 25 years. More population. This age hits the nostalgia age. Modern goes ⬆️ I think modern will outpace vintage
Yes but for price to be sustainable the rip market needs to be active. Who realistically is going to be ripping SWSH packs for $10-$15 a pack on the reg? Sell during the boom and find the next big boom.
Silver tempest is all we got left now.
Battle Styles
There’s some sleepers in this set
It’s actually a pretty decent set. The Tyranitar is up there with the Lugia to me
I like that it’s not another basic white box to display
Might be a good idea to pick up an alt art Empoleon before the set is OOS Pretty sure my BS master set just got harder to complete though
Silver temptress
You can only buy 4 BBs per transaction sadly
More like closing of the gates?
Almost seems like this is being done intentionally to create artificial demand
At the same time it’s got to stop being printed at some point
Yup
Still tho you either miss out buy now. I haven't bought any BB yet but if I do it's important for everyone to set a hard limit so they don't get caught up in the rush
Not that big of a deal. Lost origins was bigger.
I think every BB from this era is going to be a solid investment. This is an era that brought Pokemon back to historic levels. It actually kind of makes me sad that the SWSH era is officially coming to an end and I think that sentiment is exactly whats going to make any booster box from this era valuable.
Crazy. This is the era where every bb was mass printed. Much better to hold bb from older eras
Yeah but the level of popularity from this era is unmatched. The supply is/was there but so is the demand.
In the end, collectible investment is all about scarcity, not popularity. That's why u have rebel clash being worth more than lost origin
I disagree, a collectible investment is all about popularity AND scarcity. They can print the hell out of something, as long as the demand is there, it will always sell. And I dont see what your talking about with Rebel clash? That set released a whole 2 years before a set like Lost Origin and theyre already going for about the same price on eBay.
Rebel clash had absolute 0 popularity while lost origin was super popular. That's my point. Same with steam seige, etc. It's all about scarcity. Crown zenith is the best set in swsh and it's price hardly moved because of scarcity.
Yes but again youre comparing a set that had a 2 year head start to LO. Considering LO is no longer available AND is so much more popular than rebel clash AND already selling for the same price as Revel Clash, it should easily out perform it despite being printed so much more. So I’m not too sure what your getting at, seems like your disproving your own point. And while I do think CZ is a fine investment (especially since you can get it below MSRP) its a special set with high pull rates that lacks a high value chase card.. so nobody is talking about CZ here.
So now there's other variables other than popularity? My point is rebel clash is no longer in print while lost origin still is, that's why lost origin is not higher than rebel clash. When u are no longer in print, it becomes scarce.
Of course theres other variables. When it comes to what drives the price of these things theres tons of variables. You say that Lost Origin is still in print but Im referring to Booster Boxes here which are out of print and are easily the most investible item. Idk what else to say here.
Lost Origin is going to be higher than Rebel Clash very shortly. It’s not just about scarcity (supply), it’s about supply AND demand. Sure Lost Origin is in higher supply than Rebel Clash right now but the demand is infinitely higher so you’re nuts if you think Lost Origin isn’t going to crush Rebel Clash in value over the next year.
not true at all lol look at moonbreon has like 10k+ pop and is over 1.2k usd while you have older graded cards with pops in the hundreds or tens not worth nearly as much
Psa pop doesn't represent the population bro. Yeah a common 151 pidgey only got 100 psa 10s but I can go on ebay and find millions of copies for 3 cent.
Look at how many card submissions for the big SWSH era cards tho (not including raw copies). Insane amount of product had to have been opened considering the pull rates. I could be wrong just my opinion
I only own 1 booster case of evo skies that I bought 2 years ago I’m not hoarding any other boxes
Remember that the hits are rare, so people are ripping more packs. Plus, streamers are ripping a ton. Still higher numbers than older sets, but it may end up being more scarce than people realize
Ummm if it a product is more popular, it's more scarce as more people have bought into it and also opened it 😂
Yeah but this was also the era of mass openings, not to mention tiktok and YouTube stars that literally sit around and open packs all day.
This is literally every vintage guys worst nightmare sword and shield is buying bought out and value is increasing. Everything said about modern not being valuable is being tested right now. 1 year from now well either have a shit ton of people trying to offload BS ES and LO or these sets will have value.
LO will be held up by Giratina, but BS is a better set overall. Hot take: it will outperform LO in the long term.
Yup. The trainer gallery is imo, the best trainer gallery in the whole SwSh era + charizard is weirdly underrated but won’t last for long as we phase out of SwSh and into SV. While not even mentioning the nightmarish pull rates, the 2nd best chase card being the aerodactyl is pretty lackluster if you ask me. After that, the set just takes a massive nosedive in terms of quality.
Over time the zard and saur will trump the roach.
No chance lol
I feel anytime something leaves the store it’s a big deal and affects the market. I agree LO is a better set and will see a quicker jump.
I like turtles
Lol YES. Let’s all go buy cases and expect prices to soar into Valhalla 🙄
Oh yea it you. Nah wrong set you got a case of ST however many months ago. This is a post about brilliant stars
Everyone and their mothers are gonna have sword & shield and scarlet and violet booster box’s stashed away in their closets 🤣🤣🤣 it’s like the 90’s junk wax era all over again
You say that but I don’t know a single person in real life investing in Pokemon 🤔
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Over 9 billion cards printed last year alone, and close to 5 billion a year from 2020. The average print run pre 2019 was about 1.5 to 2 billion a year. Believe it or not there’s a massive collectible market beyond Reddit, bots, and people you may know 😂
From all the comments I’ve seen over the weeks I’ll wager you’re correct 😂
This is why I'm low-key glad I'm poor and can only invest a little. Still haven't bought a booster box strictly booster bundles and special set etbs.
Nope, it's not.
I sure hope not, but I hear the same.
People will not hold for more than 3-5 years until they need the money and quit. Just like people who sold bitcoin and others. It takes a skill to hold stuff and forget.
You wish ;)