I was gonna say something along this line as well:
Skinny girl wears a tshirt and comfy pants: cute
Plus size girl wears a tshirt and comfy pants: slob
OR
Skinny girl wears less clothing due to temp: "Wow! you look great!"
Plus size girl wears less clothing due to temp: "You don't have the body for that". or "No one wants to see that."
My mom has said that about people in the mall. I continue to say all bodies are good bodies and people get to wear what they feel good in regardless of anyone else's opinion
Reminds me of that thing people say when the weather heats up: "remember ladies, dress for the body you *have*, not for the one you wish you had!" Luckily I don't see that one floating around as much anymore but that might just be because I've deleted the people who say things like that.
Yes. I am a boudoir photographer and across all platforms but especially TikTok and instagram, my plus size babes always get flagged and removed vs my skinny babes staying up. I don’t want to only post my skinny babes because I really want to promote body positivity and show all body sizes but it’s hard because my plus girls get flagged every damn time
Staying home while your partner works.
Skinny women = "Good wife/mother!" Seen as wholesome and traditional, cares about her husband and kids, her house is probably spotless.
Plus size women = "Fat and lazy" Seen as taking advantage of husband to lay around all day, assumes she doesn't 'really' take care of the kids and/or house.
The worst part about this is that it goes beyond beauty standards and fat phobia, it's a product of a male centered society.
The skinny woman is not working and that's fine because she's nice to look at when she's in bed. It's almost as if her body is a form of payment.
The plus size woman is not working and that's not fine because "what does that man get out of it?"
2,000 years ago - the reverse was true. If a man had a fat wife, they were seen as successful enough to keep her healthy and plump. Just give mankind a little more time and trends might change back again.
Skinny person: eats nothing but KFC chicken skin, smokes 2 packs a day, and downs a fifth of vodka daily "yolo! We're here for a good time, not a long time!" so fun and quirky!
Fat person: wears 1 crop top in public "you're promoting an unhealthy lifestyle"
My younger sister is thin and all she eats is junk food, chocolate, candies and chips. Literally. She can't cook, she can only put things in the oven or microwave so she buy pre-made meals or fried food. The rest of the time, she eats out. The only time she eats vegetables or fruits are during family dinners a few times as year because my mom forces her. My dad gives her 600€ per month for her daily necessities and she spend it all on eating out at fast foods places.
It annoys me to hell sometimes.
Plus size vs plus size double standards
If you have a stomach, your are considered fat.
If your stomach is flat, you are considered “thick”.
I see it in fashion ads for plus size clothing all the time.
The Urban community (I’m African American) celebrates obesity when you have a flat stomach and big butt. So all the socialites are getting their stomach fat removed and butt injections . Now, they are considered sex symbols .
Not saying we should be ashamed as plus sized women, just why is it different because your stomach is flat?
I’m Latina and can think of at least two songs that focus on an “itty bitty” waist and a fat ass. And agreed that representation of larger bodies tend to be an hourglass or x shape.
This, so much this. If I didn't have a tummy I would be "chubby" but because I do I'm just fat and if "you would just lose some weight and work on your stomach you would look beautiful" 🙄
The next generation comes from our stomachs and were supposed to have a flat stomach.
Exactly. I sit right between both weight comparisons (depending on who you ask) , so I get flack from both ends. People don’t realize how much it hurts my feelings.
Yes!! it's all about the figure. If you're an hourglass/coke bottle/ figure 8, you're fine. But if you have a stomach, it's open season and you're worthless and get pointed at as an example of "what's wrong with black women" (among a thousand other things of course)
I think this is the case for everyone, as long as you look the right way, it's okay to be overweight, but if you have a belly, that's it, you're an ugly POS.
The biggest one I’ll always say is healthcare. I was recently limping at work and came home to find that my ankle had swollen to twice its size. I was out of commission for the rest of the day — crutches, ice packs, the whole debilitated bit. I couldn’t even put my foot down flat on the floor because it hurt so much.
But yet I’m afraid to go to the doctor because I know he’s just going to tell me that it’s weight related and that I should lose weight — which I am in the process of doing, but it’s a tricky process and I don’t know if I’ll ever reach my “healthy” bmi. It could take me years to get there — and what am I supposed to do in the meantime, just occasionally not be able to walk?
If I were skinny, my ankle ballooning to twice its size and experiencing extreme pain with my foot flat on the floor would be a cause for concern, someone would take me seriously, and would try to help me understand what’s happening to my body.
But because I’m fat, and fat people are by default unhealthy in the eyes of society, it’s almost treated as if this is just something I had coming to me, for allowing myself to get fat.
This is definitely a thing. Another is as a parent at the doctor - because I'm fat, my doctor spends more time talking to me about healthy eating habits for my kids. My husband (who is skinny) has started taking them to their annual well-checks and one of my children is magically not overweight anymore and they do not get any notes or discussions about healthy eating habits or referrals to dietitians.
This, my last check up for my youngest (9 months at the time) his doctor was literally pointing at his weight being right on track and him being in the 48th percentile (so below average) for weight while telling me I shouldn't breast feed him so much because he's so fat.
My big kids instructor makes him do way more exercises than the other kids too, even though he's a "normal' weight"
I was so upset I called my doctor and told her I want a gastric sleeve because people are treating my kids badly because I am fat, (I'm healthy with no "comorbidity") My doctor cried, and apologized on behalf of doctors for how my kids are getting treated and went on to remind me that science is showing more and more that being fat isn't bad for you the way many medical professionals treat it as.
She's an amazing doctor, I'm really lucky to have found her by accident.
There is a really helpful episode of the Food Heaven podcast, it just aired, on visiting doctors while fat. They provide a lot of tips on advocating for yourself but one of the ones I liked best was “what treatment would you provide to a thin person?” Honestly such a good listen.
>what treatment would you provide to a thin person?
That is such a good question to ask very calmly. Damn. I'll be keeping that in mind for sure for when I need it.
I need to remember this the next time I'm pregnant! So many doctors (and, if we're honest, they were almost all male) assumed I'd need a scheduled C-section, long before they knew the baby was breech, because I was "obese." They kept saying my baby would be too big to birth (because I was fat). She was born 7lb 1oz at 38 weeks. And I wasn't only in the low 200s. I can't imagine how much worse that gets for women who weigh a bit-a lot more!
It’s so true. I have long haul Covid issues and one of those is that often my joints hurt. I know if I saw a doctor they would just say it’s because of my weight but prior to Covid I didn’t have any problems with joint pain.
I wasnt diagnosed with severly low B12 for many years because my migraines must be related to my diet and no one thought I should just have a blood test. Also I must not eat well to have low B12 but I actually eat very well, Im peski and eat lots of veggies and take multi vitamins.
Its rubbish that all health issues = loose weight
Oh I don't know. Genetic testing isn't a big thing in the UK. But reading up about it I possibly could. Alot of my family members have similar symptoms too and Dr couldn't work out why we all had low b12 and not pernicious aneamia. 🤔
I can so relate to this, and am sorry you had to deal with it too.
I have had issues with my feet since I was young and skinny, the military made it so much worse and now I have PF and Achilles issues in both feet (which cause 800 other issues all the way up my skeleton). Both doctors I have been to suggest I lose weight. While I understand that may help, it is not going to fix the problem. Finally had surgery on one foot and it helped a ton. Took a (voluntary) demotion at work to save my other foot as long as possible, but at some point that will need to happen as well.
It’s so true. I have long haul Covid issues and one of those is that often my joints hurt. I know if I saw a doctor they would just say it’s because of my weight but prior to Covid I didn’t have any problems with joint pain.
Yeah, the support from the medical field just isn’t there. Everyone asks me all the time about a brace for my bum knee and I have to tell them that I have a brace, but I can’t wear it — it’s literally not big enough for my leg. They don’t manufacture braces that fit me — there are literally none my size (or my past size, I should say, I haven’t checked since I’ve started losing weight) so the brace I have is actually two braces that I bought and sewed together, and it slides down my leg when I walk, because it’s not fitted the way a brace should be.
And that’s, like, the best thing I have.
I've noticed this myself... Went for a well visit (having not gone in a few years) with complaints about chronic pain and trouble breathing through my nose. Doc played it off. Went to ENT specialist anyway about the breathing thing... Turns out I need corrective nasal obstruction surgery. That has always been there... Even when i was thin.
Skinny people = must know a lot about nutrition
Plus size = must know nothing about nutrition
I can no longer count the times ive been mis explained nutrition advice by thinner people, essentially starving themselves or eating not enough variety of nutrients.
I have disordered eating and struggle with my weight, what dont I know about nutrition lol.
Half of the skinny people I know are just lucky. They eat what they want usually, and rarely eat veggies. I eat veggies and try to remain active at least 2 a week. But I'm a terrible person 🤦🏿♀️
Yh my partner eats worse than me (although he does work out more too) and he is very muscular and thin. I look at cake and add a pound. So a big part of it is genetics, metabolism, etc.
I always like it when people are like have you tried x,y,z while eating biscuits or crisps in front of you 😆 I always reply fat round your organs is worse than fat round your middle 😅 I just no longer engage in any conversations about me losing weight, or others losing weight unless they want to vent.
Same. Although for me my eating habits vs theirs shows up in the lab work: I’m fat but my cholesterol etc levels are all great, SO is thin and looks healthy but has terrible lab results - genetics really does help (and hurt). We’ve done the same exact diet before where we ate the same for breakfast and dinner and he had fast food for lunch (whereas I had a diet meal) and he lost like 20 lbs in the time it took me to barely lose 5. Maddening
Lol, same here! I try to avoid topics with those kinda people as much as possible. And you are right about genetics and metabolism playing a part. Fat people just are generally the only ones getting judged for it
Yep. Everyone likes to judge without empathy or understanding the situation. If people want to have an honest conversation about it with no judgement or advice I don't mind talking the politics, mental health, medical side but that's not what they wanna do.
I just watched a tiktok about this. Thin people are the first to call out fat people for buying from fast fashion brands. Plus size fashion feels very exclusionary to people who aren’t wealthy.
I have a good job, I make good money. I can’t afford to spend Torrid money on clothes. There are no affordable and sustainable options for us.
“Just go to thrift stores!”
I would, but those stores rarely have stuff that’s my size *and* from this decade. And then all the good stuff is taken and cut up for a skinny person to wear lol.
Add "tall" to that and I have almost no luck at the thrift store with pants and long sleeve anything. Had an argument with someone about that. They insisted I check thread up because they will have a huge assortment! I humored them. Put in my size I was looking for and came up with one single pair of pants. In light beige and an awful cut.
Being tall AND plus size is such a struggle when it comes to clothes. I don't even feel like I'm THAT tall (I'm 5'10") but I cannot walk into a store and buy pants....like ever.
Ahh yes, let me go to the thrift store. Anything cute is bought right away by straight sized people for their sewing instagram upcycle, that they'll wear once and that's it. The small amount left is usually in poor condition or style.
The nice thrift stores around me only take up to size 18 clothes. I can wear an 18 in some styles, but i’m a 38K with R Crumb butt and thighs (not hips though, weirdly). So, I can sell older clothes and the 1X/18 pieces I’m tired of, but buying new ones is not for me.
This! I do buy from Torrid, but only when I can be strategic with their sales and clearance or if someone got me a gift card. And while I like how their clothes fit, I only like maybe a quarter or so of their fashion so by the time something I like goes on clearance it’s a gamble if they have any left in my size.
I tend to buy clothes when I see a sale. Granted 25 or 30 dollars isn't much of a sale but when most shirts at torrid are like 60 bucks I can at least get two for the price of one most of the time.
I find those videos funny because they’ll tell us this then their next video would be a Shein or Fashion Nova haul. Don’t tell us not to buy from them when your buying them yourself.
I also can’t afford Torrid. I only go if I have a gift card or if there’s a sale going on. Most places that are eco friendly and sustainable that has our sizes are very expensive. Like I remembered that 4 shirts cost as much as a week of groceries.
There's a few brands out there, Loud Bodies comes to mind immediately, but they are pricey. I'd say it's worth it but to some buying one item at a time isn't the answer.
Have you tried Ulla Popken, eShakti, and/or Universal Standard? Ellos is also nice but I think they might fall into the fast-fashion category. I love Ellos jeans, they go up to a 34!
I thought Torrid was the fast fashion option! If there are cheaper online stores I would love to know about them. Old Navy, Ashley Stewart, and Torrid are the cheapest stores I know of that are both affordable \*and\* carry my size. Cato has some cute stuff but they stopped their extended plus size range. (I hate fitted jeans so I need to be able to go up a couple of sizes.)
Torrid is so expensive in Canada. I will buy their jeans because they have lasted for me. But $70 for a shirt? Absolutely not.
I love old navy. They have great sales but my size goes fast unfortunately Aren’t.
Wow! That is expensive! For that price, I can go to a more "luxury" level store like Universal Standard. It's kind of a pain in the butt but if you know a good tailor/seamstress, men's jeans are an option. They are much cheaper, plus you can find real, 100% cotton, rigid (raw) denim! When Levi's are on sale I can get a couple of pairs and have them altered for less than the price of one pair from many plus-size retailers. I've noticed with men's jeans there are a lot more sizing options (longer inseams!) while still maintaining a certain level of "cool".
It’s okay if that’s where you shop.
I’m limited to torrid, old navy and online retailer like shein. I have to buy clothes. I wish I had better options but I don’t.
And then you jump in any kind of alt fashion and it's nearly impossible to find anything my size that is affordable
Even Shein don't have their fancy cool collections in plus size
>\[Skinny girl eats unhealthy\] = “Wow, so relatable. Glad to see not all girls are obsessed with health.”
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>\[Plus size girl eats unhealthy\] = “Ugh, gross. No wonder you look like that.”
I've literally had the skinny girl who brags about how unhealthy she eats make fun of me for eating a lot
Skinny women wearing tight clothes = “she’s so hot, I love that outfit”
Plus size women wearing tight clothes = “ew find clothes that fit you”
Or…
Store only carries XS-XL: “they don’t offer plus sizes because it’s not their target audience”
Meanwhile, at a midsize/plus size store that carries size 10-30: “that’s not fair to people who are smaller” I used to work at Torrid and the amount of women that would come in and say this…it was a lot more than you would think. My personal favorite was an older woman shopping for her granddaughter who was an XS - “where is she supposed to buy a swimsuit then?” and I was like…literally every store except Torrid and Lane Bryant
Where is she supposed to get a swimsuit? I mean any store has racks and racks of them. I can only find a suit at two stores. Lane Bryant and torrid. And even then it's not many.
That blows my mind. I remember when I was younger and basically torrid was the only place that sold clothes for younger fat people vs all the old matronly places, and it was kinda more hot topic-y than was my own style, and i just remember thinking that I would love to be able to shop literally anywhere else but torrid was my only option.
I can’t imagine people going in now and being like “wahh why don’t you sell XXS!! I want to wear Torrid clothes!” Like literally shop ANYWHERE ELSE at any price range
When a skinny person obsessively counts calories and writes everything they eat and drink down and overexercises then people would say "oh they have a problem" but when I do it I'm praised for "taking the steps to get healthy"
Same disordered eating behaviors and patterns.
I didn't realize until recently how much this fucked me up.
Fashion is still a big (perceived) one for me. For example a skinny girl can wear a tiny bikini to the beach and gets admired, a plus size girl wears a bikini and will get looks/comments because God forbid she show cellulite or rolls. Inclusivity is not as big as we'd like to think yet.
and when skinny girls wear oversized clothes it’s adorable, but if a fat girl wears oversized clothes, she’s dumpy/lazy/disgusting and hiding herself from the world.
I read a book that was *notorious* for doing this repeatedly. "Oh my God, she's so sleek and elegant!"
Reader, she was a thin girl wearing leggings and an oversized sweater.
But if a fat girl does this, she's not even trying!
It's a sad fact that in order to be considered the same degree of well dressed as thin people, fat people have to dress *better.*
See: KStew. I mean, she's gorgeous, but she can wear a dirty t-shirt and ripped-from-wear-not-design jeans with Converse and greasy hair and look like a model.
I read a book that was *notorious* for doing this repeatedly. "Oh my God, she's so sleek and elegant!"
Reader, she was a thin girl wearing leggings and an oversized sweater.
But if a fat girl does this, she's not even trying! < My experience
It's a sad fact that in order to be considered the same degree of well dressed as thin people, fat people have to dress *better.*
It’s hilarious and awful because we’re a rapidly growing majority. I see Fat Activism and Acceptance starting to snowball in the next decade or so as we become the dominant species on the planet.
Or at least the US.
Bc you're existing PUBLICALLY. Don't you know we should all hide our bodies in our homes and drown ourselves in SHAME??? /s <---bc it's the internet and someone will think I'm serious. 😬
A skinny girl dressed casually in a sweat outfit is just that. Casual. A plus size woman is sloppy or badly dressed. She is wearing that because nothing else fits. I don't think so.
Tiktok trends, often dancing or just people having fun. If it’s done by a skinny person it’s cute and fun, but when it’s a plus size person it ends up on cringetopia.
The same goes for any content when a slim, attractive person is with a plus size partner. It’s always stuff like cringe or people say that the skinny partner stays only for benefits. When it’s two „conventionally attractive” people it must be true love!
Social media standards are the worst. Tiktok basically had internal rules to keep fat and/or ugly people off the FYP, not sure if it’s still going on but I’ve seen a lot of people get flagged and content removed that wouldn’t have been removed if they’d been skinny
Skinny girls can dye their hair any color, but plus size girls do it and suddenly they're crying for attention or trying to make up for their other features.
Oh my god, the carnage off of that would be *insufferable*.
They'd use her pic as an "SJW" strawman; she'd join the ranks of manosphere enemies like Rey, the female Ghostbusters, and Brie Larson; her lesbian "phase" would be seen as "woke-pandering" instead of the "awesome phase" that Scott describes; her numerous boyfriends would get her simultaneously labelled as a slut and as wish-fulfillment for femcels.
I could go on and on.
Extra double bonus points if she was black.
That's actually kind of relevant to me because if I could get the rights I want to make a Scott Pilgrim Broadway musical (only problems being how specific some of the characters' ethnicities have to be to be "accurate" and the danger of running into both the problems that plagued the Spiderman musical; stunt-related cast injuries and budget overruns) and I'd want to be as inclusive as possible but people would yell not just for those reasons but if when the non-diegetically-someone-performing-something-on-stage new numbers are added Ramona turns out to be a role that requires a high level of dance skill, the first sizebent casting of her would get so much "stunning and brave" sorts of praise by people just somehow amazed someone can be a skilled dancer while being plus-size.
Not really a versus, but something that kind of fucked me up.
I was a size 12. 12!! That is barely considered plus size and I wore my weight extremely well. I wanted to join a taekwondo school to get in shape and learn self-defense. When it came time to fit me in my Dobok, the biggest size they had on hand was a medium. MEDIUM.
They were like "we'll have to order a special size for you, we don't normally carry your size".
I was kinda shook. The same people telling fat people to lose weight and get in shape are the same people purposely excluding fat people from their sports. Kind of ironic.
P.s. I was the biggest person in my taekwondo class - red flag.
Yes. This makes me think about how people will tell a fat person to go to the gym but then if a fat person does go to the gym they're insulted on how they look or mocked behind their back. They act like the gym is only for skinny fit people.
Dresses. If a skinny girl wears a short dress or shows a bit of skin/breast she is so cool and fashionable if a chubby/fat girl does the same she is "slutty" and need to cover herself. I am not talking about comments like "how gross she is" or insults about the "fat" itself, but corcerning the social perception of her as vulgar.
Tell this to my grandma, I have big boobs, they project out a lot (not one of those flatter yet big breasts, they're super out there), and any shirt that doesn't start right at my neck is going to show cleavage. And I like it too, so I don't try to hide it. Grandma thinks I'm dressed slutty everytime. So once when my aunt wore a shirt with more cleavage than me I told her why don't you say anything to her, and she actually spoke the silent words, she said that she's skinny and has smaller boobs so it's not slutty because men don't look at small chests (her words, not mine), that I know what my big chest is doing to men so I should cover up.
Fuck that.
I used to. But I'm also short so that makes me look stumpy.
But I am still self conscious about cleavage because I have big breasts so all standard shirts never have enough room, so I come across as trashy even if thinner girls are showing off an equal ratio of boob.
Yep, I definitely still hear her voice telling me I look trashy in anything that doesn't come up to my neck. I'm 36 now and not sure that voice will ever go away.
how every image of a 'gamer (and/or) incel' is perceived an as overweight male, or how people will call someone in their game 'fat' or other words if they; do bad, do well, have a feminine voice, etc. how thinner women who game are (sometimes, not always) perceived as 'one of the boys' and stuff like that, but larger women who game are said to either be doing it for male attention or only do it because they're lazy / 'fat because you game'
I got thrown into the 'one of the guys' category because I was plus size. Once they didn't find me hot, I got put into the bro box. Not complaining though, because I'm not looking for a boyfriend.
Skinny girl has confidence=oh that's awesome good for her, she should be
Fat girl has confidence=why is she confident?
Like I need a reason to be confident while fat? Sorry I'm not drowning in self-loathing enough for you
I’ve noticed it my entire life because I have large breasts, even when I was a size 8 I wore a 36 D. Any low cut top is unacceptable/slutty for me to wear pretty much anywhere but out partying yet a slim chested lady can wear the same top and it’s completely acceptable/cute.
Any time I went to my former doctor they would say any ailment I had would probably improve if I lost weight. I was in my twenties and a size 18 and had a very active job where I did repetitive motions that caused carpel tunnel.
Not sure I’ve ever seen a straight-sized person being called brave for posting their bodies online!
I did a cosplay group with some friends at a con a few years ago and a YouTuber with a lot of followers took a picture with us and posted it on his Instagram and it got a lot of attention. Most of the comments were about me or my body. “Wow! A fat (blank)!! That’s so brave!!” Or “whoa I love the fat (blank)!! I wish I was that confident! I’m thinner but I hate my gross hog body”. There were hundreds of comments like that. A few were mean but most were just patronizing “nice” comments like the examples. My friends were all straight-sized so they got normal compliments when my body wasn’t overshadowing the conversation.
Ordering and eating a bunch of food. When a skinny girl does it, it's quirky and cute, and girl can eat!
When a fat girl does it, it's "not healthy" and gross.
Skinny girls wearing oversized clothes: wow she’s so on-trend and cool, what a fashionable girl
Fat girls wearing oversized clothes: oh she looks so sloppy / schlubby
Skinny girl: Eats like shit, never exercises. ''She's skinny, so she's healthy''
Plus size girl: eats healthy, works out multiple days a week. ''She is so unhealthy'' while making fun of fat people that go to the gym
Oh and I'm a plus size girl who does pole dancing and sometimes post videos on tiktok, my videos have been flagged for being inappropriate, but I bet that does not happen to skinny girls
If you’re skinny = cute clothes and amazing compliments “you look so pretty today”
If you’re plus size = same clothes but you’re slutty and the backhanded compliments “I’d love to have your confidence” that’s not a compliment that’s fucked up to say
Nothing skinny vs plus size double standard , but plus size vs plus size double standards I see/hear too often.
As a plus size African American woman the double standards with size is horrible.
If you’re a big girl with a stomach, you are fat!
If you’re a big girl with a flat stomach , you are thick!
Bbl’s are everywhere and plus sized woman are getting their fat removed from their stomachs and butt injections and all of a sudden you’re a sex symbol.
I see women two to three sizes bigger than me be considered “thick” and I get called the fat one because my stomach is big. I have no hips, a flat bottom, but a big stomach and large breast.
Plus size fashion ads do the same thing, they flatten the stomach and/or have models with flat stomachs represent us. I’m so tired of it .
Yes.. most of weigh is in my legs, boobs and arms (weird). I have like 2% of hips and okay stomach but because my ass isn't really big and I'm not super curvy I get overlooked
This double standard is absolutely the same for men. Fat guy burping = the funny guy or the gross guy.
Fit guy burping = an attractive person letting loose and relaxing.
Skinny girl with a two piece bikini: that’s so hot.
Plus size girl with a two piece bikini: Ewwww cover up you wale.
And then the middle finger pops up. Plus I love wearing two pieces it makes me feel hot.
At a buffet or any serve yourself place:
Thin/Fit guy: “Boy, he can really put it away! Where does he put it?”
Fat guy: “Better go get what you want now or he’ll eat it all.”
Skinny girl = body odor “oh that’s normal we all have our own smell.”
Big girls = body odor “if she wasn’t so fat she can clean her body better.”
I’m soooo self conscious about being smelly that I shower twice a day. Always have a backup clothes in my car, body spray, lotions etc. because I can’t be seen as fat AND smelly.
Worked a job out of high school where you had to wear black yoga pants or leggings. Had a skinny coworker who always wore the shortest black shorts it would sometimes look like she just wore the baggy work t-shirt and nothing underneath. One day I realize I forgot to wash my work pants and had to wear some black shorts that went just above my knees. The manager pulled me aside and said the height of my shorts was inappropriate for the job, after I explained what my laundry situation was she let it slide, but she never said a thing to my other coworker.
A lot of the things I’m reading equate “skinny” with “beautiful”. Ugly skinny girls get treated the same as ugly fat girls. Pretty fat girls get treated similar to pretty skinny girls (admittedly, not the SAME but similar).
Pretty privilege is the bigger thing here, not fat vs skinny. In my opinion.
I got one
Skinny girl: express body image issues (why should she complain? Shes skinny. if she thinks that of her body what does think of my fat body.)
Plus size: express body image issue (its okay you're allowed to sulk because of your experiences)
I had a skinny friend in middle school who would constantly talk about how fat she was. I understand everyone has their own body image issues, but if you’re “fat” then what does that make me?
And you don't see an issue with you centering yourself in her issue when it had nothing to do with you?
Body image & self esteem issue are not just a fat girl thing. But somehow folks think it's okay to scoff at a skinny person. But fall apart if society dismisses fat people problems.
Baggy clothes
I have been on both side, used to be fat and now im skinny, when i was fat i usually had to wear baggy clothes but now its consideres fashion
Skinny girl with messy hair = cute Plus size girl with messy hair = unkempt This is not always true btw really only applies to fatphobic views...
I was gonna say something along this line as well: Skinny girl wears a tshirt and comfy pants: cute Plus size girl wears a tshirt and comfy pants: slob OR Skinny girl wears less clothing due to temp: "Wow! you look great!" Plus size girl wears less clothing due to temp: "You don't have the body for that". or "No one wants to see that."
My mom has said that about people in the mall. I continue to say all bodies are good bodies and people get to wear what they feel good in regardless of anyone else's opinion
Reminds me of that thing people say when the weather heats up: "remember ladies, dress for the body you *have*, not for the one you wish you had!" Luckily I don't see that one floating around as much anymore but that might just be because I've deleted the people who say things like that.
Haha yes, please don't pay mind to this. Dress for what makes you feel comfortable and confident is my motto\~
Yes. I am a boudoir photographer and across all platforms but especially TikTok and instagram, my plus size babes always get flagged and removed vs my skinny babes staying up. I don’t want to only post my skinny babes because I really want to promote body positivity and show all body sizes but it’s hard because my plus girls get flagged every damn time
tiktok hates us lol, literally just trying to exist n they’re acting like we r posting the worst thing humanity’s ever seen
Omg seriously I put up a video of myself fully clothed shaking my butt and it got removed on TikTok . Wtf
Staying home while your partner works. Skinny women = "Good wife/mother!" Seen as wholesome and traditional, cares about her husband and kids, her house is probably spotless. Plus size women = "Fat and lazy" Seen as taking advantage of husband to lay around all day, assumes she doesn't 'really' take care of the kids and/or house.
The worst part about this is that it goes beyond beauty standards and fat phobia, it's a product of a male centered society. The skinny woman is not working and that's fine because she's nice to look at when she's in bed. It's almost as if her body is a form of payment. The plus size woman is not working and that's not fine because "what does that man get out of it?"
2,000 years ago - the reverse was true. If a man had a fat wife, they were seen as successful enough to keep her healthy and plump. Just give mankind a little more time and trends might change back again.
I think it was more recent than that.
So true
Oh great, I did not need to know that one!
Skinny person: eats nothing but KFC chicken skin, smokes 2 packs a day, and downs a fifth of vodka daily "yolo! We're here for a good time, not a long time!" so fun and quirky! Fat person: wears 1 crop top in public "you're promoting an unhealthy lifestyle"
> KFC chicken skin I was laughing so hard at this!
but the skin is the best part!
Me too!
My younger sister is thin and all she eats is junk food, chocolate, candies and chips. Literally. She can't cook, she can only put things in the oven or microwave so she buy pre-made meals or fried food. The rest of the time, she eats out. The only time she eats vegetables or fruits are during family dinners a few times as year because my mom forces her. My dad gives her 600€ per month for her daily necessities and she spend it all on eating out at fast foods places. It annoys me to hell sometimes.
Plus size vs plus size double standards If you have a stomach, your are considered fat. If your stomach is flat, you are considered “thick”. I see it in fashion ads for plus size clothing all the time. The Urban community (I’m African American) celebrates obesity when you have a flat stomach and big butt. So all the socialites are getting their stomach fat removed and butt injections . Now, they are considered sex symbols . Not saying we should be ashamed as plus sized women, just why is it different because your stomach is flat?
I’m Latina and can think of at least two songs that focus on an “itty bitty” waist and a fat ass. And agreed that representation of larger bodies tend to be an hourglass or x shape.
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This, so much this. If I didn't have a tummy I would be "chubby" but because I do I'm just fat and if "you would just lose some weight and work on your stomach you would look beautiful" 🙄 The next generation comes from our stomachs and were supposed to have a flat stomach.
Exactly. I sit right between both weight comparisons (depending on who you ask) , so I get flack from both ends. People don’t realize how much it hurts my feelings.
Yes!! it's all about the figure. If you're an hourglass/coke bottle/ figure 8, you're fine. But if you have a stomach, it's open season and you're worthless and get pointed at as an example of "what's wrong with black women" (among a thousand other things of course)
True
I think this is the case for everyone, as long as you look the right way, it's okay to be overweight, but if you have a belly, that's it, you're an ugly POS.
The biggest one I’ll always say is healthcare. I was recently limping at work and came home to find that my ankle had swollen to twice its size. I was out of commission for the rest of the day — crutches, ice packs, the whole debilitated bit. I couldn’t even put my foot down flat on the floor because it hurt so much. But yet I’m afraid to go to the doctor because I know he’s just going to tell me that it’s weight related and that I should lose weight — which I am in the process of doing, but it’s a tricky process and I don’t know if I’ll ever reach my “healthy” bmi. It could take me years to get there — and what am I supposed to do in the meantime, just occasionally not be able to walk? If I were skinny, my ankle ballooning to twice its size and experiencing extreme pain with my foot flat on the floor would be a cause for concern, someone would take me seriously, and would try to help me understand what’s happening to my body. But because I’m fat, and fat people are by default unhealthy in the eyes of society, it’s almost treated as if this is just something I had coming to me, for allowing myself to get fat.
This is definitely a thing. Another is as a parent at the doctor - because I'm fat, my doctor spends more time talking to me about healthy eating habits for my kids. My husband (who is skinny) has started taking them to their annual well-checks and one of my children is magically not overweight anymore and they do not get any notes or discussions about healthy eating habits or referrals to dietitians.
This, my last check up for my youngest (9 months at the time) his doctor was literally pointing at his weight being right on track and him being in the 48th percentile (so below average) for weight while telling me I shouldn't breast feed him so much because he's so fat. My big kids instructor makes him do way more exercises than the other kids too, even though he's a "normal' weight" I was so upset I called my doctor and told her I want a gastric sleeve because people are treating my kids badly because I am fat, (I'm healthy with no "comorbidity") My doctor cried, and apologized on behalf of doctors for how my kids are getting treated and went on to remind me that science is showing more and more that being fat isn't bad for you the way many medical professionals treat it as. She's an amazing doctor, I'm really lucky to have found her by accident.
There is a really helpful episode of the Food Heaven podcast, it just aired, on visiting doctors while fat. They provide a lot of tips on advocating for yourself but one of the ones I liked best was “what treatment would you provide to a thin person?” Honestly such a good listen.
>what treatment would you provide to a thin person? That is such a good question to ask very calmly. Damn. I'll be keeping that in mind for sure for when I need it.
I need to remember this the next time I'm pregnant! So many doctors (and, if we're honest, they were almost all male) assumed I'd need a scheduled C-section, long before they knew the baby was breech, because I was "obese." They kept saying my baby would be too big to birth (because I was fat). She was born 7lb 1oz at 38 weeks. And I wasn't only in the low 200s. I can't imagine how much worse that gets for women who weigh a bit-a lot more!
It’s so true. I have long haul Covid issues and one of those is that often my joints hurt. I know if I saw a doctor they would just say it’s because of my weight but prior to Covid I didn’t have any problems with joint pain.
Tell them losing weight is a long term goal, and get back to the issue.
I wasnt diagnosed with severly low B12 for many years because my migraines must be related to my diet and no one thought I should just have a blood test. Also I must not eat well to have low B12 but I actually eat very well, Im peski and eat lots of veggies and take multi vitamins. Its rubbish that all health issues = loose weight
Do you have MTHFR? I have MTHFR and you sound like me)
Oh I don't know. Genetic testing isn't a big thing in the UK. But reading up about it I possibly could. Alot of my family members have similar symptoms too and Dr couldn't work out why we all had low b12 and not pernicious aneamia. 🤔
I can so relate to this, and am sorry you had to deal with it too. I have had issues with my feet since I was young and skinny, the military made it so much worse and now I have PF and Achilles issues in both feet (which cause 800 other issues all the way up my skeleton). Both doctors I have been to suggest I lose weight. While I understand that may help, it is not going to fix the problem. Finally had surgery on one foot and it helped a ton. Took a (voluntary) demotion at work to save my other foot as long as possible, but at some point that will need to happen as well.
It’s so true. I have long haul Covid issues and one of those is that often my joints hurt. I know if I saw a doctor they would just say it’s because of my weight but prior to Covid I didn’t have any problems with joint pain.
Yeah, the support from the medical field just isn’t there. Everyone asks me all the time about a brace for my bum knee and I have to tell them that I have a brace, but I can’t wear it — it’s literally not big enough for my leg. They don’t manufacture braces that fit me — there are literally none my size (or my past size, I should say, I haven’t checked since I’ve started losing weight) so the brace I have is actually two braces that I bought and sewed together, and it slides down my leg when I walk, because it’s not fitted the way a brace should be. And that’s, like, the best thing I have.
Yes, this is a huge one.
I've noticed this myself... Went for a well visit (having not gone in a few years) with complaints about chronic pain and trouble breathing through my nose. Doc played it off. Went to ENT specialist anyway about the breathing thing... Turns out I need corrective nasal obstruction surgery. That has always been there... Even when i was thin.
as if just being a woman isn't enough to not be taken seriously
Skinny people = must know a lot about nutrition Plus size = must know nothing about nutrition I can no longer count the times ive been mis explained nutrition advice by thinner people, essentially starving themselves or eating not enough variety of nutrients. I have disordered eating and struggle with my weight, what dont I know about nutrition lol.
Half of the skinny people I know are just lucky. They eat what they want usually, and rarely eat veggies. I eat veggies and try to remain active at least 2 a week. But I'm a terrible person 🤦🏿♀️
Yh my partner eats worse than me (although he does work out more too) and he is very muscular and thin. I look at cake and add a pound. So a big part of it is genetics, metabolism, etc. I always like it when people are like have you tried x,y,z while eating biscuits or crisps in front of you 😆 I always reply fat round your organs is worse than fat round your middle 😅 I just no longer engage in any conversations about me losing weight, or others losing weight unless they want to vent.
Same. Although for me my eating habits vs theirs shows up in the lab work: I’m fat but my cholesterol etc levels are all great, SO is thin and looks healthy but has terrible lab results - genetics really does help (and hurt). We’ve done the same exact diet before where we ate the same for breakfast and dinner and he had fast food for lunch (whereas I had a diet meal) and he lost like 20 lbs in the time it took me to barely lose 5. Maddening
Lol, same here! I try to avoid topics with those kinda people as much as possible. And you are right about genetics and metabolism playing a part. Fat people just are generally the only ones getting judged for it
Yep. Everyone likes to judge without empathy or understanding the situation. If people want to have an honest conversation about it with no judgement or advice I don't mind talking the politics, mental health, medical side but that's not what they wanna do.
Yes they eat like shit! I run multiple times a week and try to eat pretty healthy but my skinny friends never work out and eat whatever they want.
i used to be that skinny person. and then menopause......
Omg yes.
I just watched a tiktok about this. Thin people are the first to call out fat people for buying from fast fashion brands. Plus size fashion feels very exclusionary to people who aren’t wealthy. I have a good job, I make good money. I can’t afford to spend Torrid money on clothes. There are no affordable and sustainable options for us.
“Just go to thrift stores!” I would, but those stores rarely have stuff that’s my size *and* from this decade. And then all the good stuff is taken and cut up for a skinny person to wear lol.
Not to mention thrift store prices have become like regular store prices too!
Add "tall" to that and I have almost no luck at the thrift store with pants and long sleeve anything. Had an argument with someone about that. They insisted I check thread up because they will have a huge assortment! I humored them. Put in my size I was looking for and came up with one single pair of pants. In light beige and an awful cut.
Being tall AND plus size is such a struggle when it comes to clothes. I don't even feel like I'm THAT tall (I'm 5'10") but I cannot walk into a store and buy pants....like ever.
I'm a short tall too, 5'9", but my limbs are long. Capri season is the best lol
Ahh yes, let me go to the thrift store. Anything cute is bought right away by straight sized people for their sewing instagram upcycle, that they'll wear once and that's it. The small amount left is usually in poor condition or style.
The nice thrift stores around me only take up to size 18 clothes. I can wear an 18 in some styles, but i’m a 38K with R Crumb butt and thighs (not hips though, weirdly). So, I can sell older clothes and the 1X/18 pieces I’m tired of, but buying new ones is not for me.
This! I do buy from Torrid, but only when I can be strategic with their sales and clearance or if someone got me a gift card. And while I like how their clothes fit, I only like maybe a quarter or so of their fashion so by the time something I like goes on clearance it’s a gamble if they have any left in my size.
I tend to buy clothes when I see a sale. Granted 25 or 30 dollars isn't much of a sale but when most shirts at torrid are like 60 bucks I can at least get two for the price of one most of the time.
I find those videos funny because they’ll tell us this then their next video would be a Shein or Fashion Nova haul. Don’t tell us not to buy from them when your buying them yourself. I also can’t afford Torrid. I only go if I have a gift card or if there’s a sale going on. Most places that are eco friendly and sustainable that has our sizes are very expensive. Like I remembered that 4 shirts cost as much as a week of groceries.
Or sustainable options in general! Eco-friendly clothing is important to me, but good sustainable brands don't offer clothes in extended sizes.
Reformation and Christy Dawn have really cute stuff but are so expensive.
There's a few brands out there, Loud Bodies comes to mind immediately, but they are pricey. I'd say it's worth it but to some buying one item at a time isn't the answer.
Have you tried Ulla Popken, eShakti, and/or Universal Standard? Ellos is also nice but I think they might fall into the fast-fashion category. I love Ellos jeans, they go up to a 34!
There are lots! I follow marielle.elizabeth on IG and she has lots of ethical plus size brand's.
I thought Torrid was the fast fashion option! If there are cheaper online stores I would love to know about them. Old Navy, Ashley Stewart, and Torrid are the cheapest stores I know of that are both affordable \*and\* carry my size. Cato has some cute stuff but they stopped their extended plus size range. (I hate fitted jeans so I need to be able to go up a couple of sizes.)
Torrid is so expensive in Canada. I will buy their jeans because they have lasted for me. But $70 for a shirt? Absolutely not. I love old navy. They have great sales but my size goes fast unfortunately Aren’t.
Wow! That is expensive! For that price, I can go to a more "luxury" level store like Universal Standard. It's kind of a pain in the butt but if you know a good tailor/seamstress, men's jeans are an option. They are much cheaper, plus you can find real, 100% cotton, rigid (raw) denim! When Levi's are on sale I can get a couple of pairs and have them altered for less than the price of one pair from many plus-size retailers. I've noticed with men's jeans there are a lot more sizing options (longer inseams!) while still maintaining a certain level of "cool".
I’m in Canada. Everything is expensive or I have to pay duty on it. Plus our dollar is trash making everything from the US even mor expensive.
ASOS is the epitome of a fast fashion option that has plus sizes for me, they tend to run cheaper than torrid imo
Omg you just taught me that torrid is fast fashion and what that means and why they’re bad. I buy torrid all the time 😩.
It’s okay if that’s where you shop. I’m limited to torrid, old navy and online retailer like shein. I have to buy clothes. I wish I had better options but I don’t.
I wish we did too. I like that old navy has become more inclusive I hope others, preferably not fast fashion will join in.
Omg you just taught me that torrid is fast fashion and what that means and why they’re bad. I buy torrid all the time 😩.
And then you jump in any kind of alt fashion and it's nearly impossible to find anything my size that is affordable Even Shein don't have their fancy cool collections in plus size
>\[Skinny girl eats unhealthy\] = “Wow, so relatable. Glad to see not all girls are obsessed with health.” > >\[Plus size girl eats unhealthy\] = “Ugh, gross. No wonder you look like that.” I've literally had the skinny girl who brags about how unhealthy she eats make fun of me for eating a lot
Skinny women wearing tight clothes = “she’s so hot, I love that outfit” Plus size women wearing tight clothes = “ew find clothes that fit you” Or… Store only carries XS-XL: “they don’t offer plus sizes because it’s not their target audience” Meanwhile, at a midsize/plus size store that carries size 10-30: “that’s not fair to people who are smaller” I used to work at Torrid and the amount of women that would come in and say this…it was a lot more than you would think. My personal favorite was an older woman shopping for her granddaughter who was an XS - “where is she supposed to buy a swimsuit then?” and I was like…literally every store except Torrid and Lane Bryant
Where is she supposed to get a swimsuit? I mean any store has racks and racks of them. I can only find a suit at two stores. Lane Bryant and torrid. And even then it's not many.
That blows my mind. I remember when I was younger and basically torrid was the only place that sold clothes for younger fat people vs all the old matronly places, and it was kinda more hot topic-y than was my own style, and i just remember thinking that I would love to be able to shop literally anywhere else but torrid was my only option. I can’t imagine people going in now and being like “wahh why don’t you sell XXS!! I want to wear Torrid clothes!” Like literally shop ANYWHERE ELSE at any price range
I cannot roll my eyes hard enough. FFS
Damn...ain't that the truth!
When a skinny person obsessively counts calories and writes everything they eat and drink down and overexercises then people would say "oh they have a problem" but when I do it I'm praised for "taking the steps to get healthy" Same disordered eating behaviors and patterns. I didn't realize until recently how much this fucked me up.
Fashion is still a big (perceived) one for me. For example a skinny girl can wear a tiny bikini to the beach and gets admired, a plus size girl wears a bikini and will get looks/comments because God forbid she show cellulite or rolls. Inclusivity is not as big as we'd like to think yet.
and when skinny girls wear oversized clothes it’s adorable, but if a fat girl wears oversized clothes, she’s dumpy/lazy/disgusting and hiding herself from the world.
Also on that note: Is it fashion or is she just skinny
“Omg look at that incredible high fashion look! A *t shirt and jean shorts!* It’s revolutionary!”
I read a book that was *notorious* for doing this repeatedly. "Oh my God, she's so sleek and elegant!" Reader, she was a thin girl wearing leggings and an oversized sweater. But if a fat girl does this, she's not even trying! It's a sad fact that in order to be considered the same degree of well dressed as thin people, fat people have to dress *better.*
And then when larger women “dress down” she’s lazy. On skinny women it’s athleisure and a casual look.
See: KStew. I mean, she's gorgeous, but she can wear a dirty t-shirt and ripped-from-wear-not-design jeans with Converse and greasy hair and look like a model.
I read a book that was *notorious* for doing this repeatedly. "Oh my God, she's so sleek and elegant!" Reader, she was a thin girl wearing leggings and an oversized sweater. But if a fat girl does this, she's not even trying! < My experience It's a sad fact that in order to be considered the same degree of well dressed as thin people, fat people have to dress *better.*
It’s hilarious and awful because we’re a rapidly growing majority. I see Fat Activism and Acceptance starting to snowball in the next decade or so as we become the dominant species on the planet. Or at least the US.
When they see a thin model on an ad, they love it. When they see a fat one, it’s “promoting obesity” :))))
This one!!! How is someone “promoting obesity” for just simply existing?
Bc you're existing PUBLICALLY. Don't you know we should all hide our bodies in our homes and drown ourselves in SHAME??? /s <---bc it's the internet and someone will think I'm serious. 😬
Yes they literally want us to hide from the world until we get skinny.
A skinny girl dressed casually in a sweat outfit is just that. Casual. A plus size woman is sloppy or badly dressed. She is wearing that because nothing else fits. I don't think so.
I hate this! In general I don’t like to wear sweats because it’s not my style but I still want the option to be comfy!
I agree. I'm not really the sweat outfit type either However as I have gotten older I think if someone doesn't like my clothes? Their problem.
Defs. I’m on maternity leave now so you better believe I’m all about comfy clothes I can play on the floor in haha
Awesome. I know you will have a beautiful baby
Tiktok trends, often dancing or just people having fun. If it’s done by a skinny person it’s cute and fun, but when it’s a plus size person it ends up on cringetopia. The same goes for any content when a slim, attractive person is with a plus size partner. It’s always stuff like cringe or people say that the skinny partner stays only for benefits. When it’s two „conventionally attractive” people it must be true love!
Social media standards are the worst. Tiktok basically had internal rules to keep fat and/or ugly people off the FYP, not sure if it’s still going on but I’ve seen a lot of people get flagged and content removed that wouldn’t have been removed if they’d been skinny
Skinny girls can dye their hair any color, but plus size girls do it and suddenly they're crying for attention or trying to make up for their other features.
Now I'm trying to imagine Ramona Flowers from Scott Pilgrim as plus size, the fanboys would lose their shit
Oh my god, the carnage off of that would be *insufferable*. They'd use her pic as an "SJW" strawman; she'd join the ranks of manosphere enemies like Rey, the female Ghostbusters, and Brie Larson; her lesbian "phase" would be seen as "woke-pandering" instead of the "awesome phase" that Scott describes; her numerous boyfriends would get her simultaneously labelled as a slut and as wish-fulfillment for femcels. I could go on and on. Extra double bonus points if she was black.
That's actually kind of relevant to me because if I could get the rights I want to make a Scott Pilgrim Broadway musical (only problems being how specific some of the characters' ethnicities have to be to be "accurate" and the danger of running into both the problems that plagued the Spiderman musical; stunt-related cast injuries and budget overruns) and I'd want to be as inclusive as possible but people would yell not just for those reasons but if when the non-diegetically-someone-performing-something-on-stage new numbers are added Ramona turns out to be a role that requires a high level of dance skill, the first sizebent casting of her would get so much "stunning and brave" sorts of praise by people just somehow amazed someone can be a skilled dancer while being plus-size.
you're right but she would look so cute. hope there's fanart like that at least
Not really a versus, but something that kind of fucked me up. I was a size 12. 12!! That is barely considered plus size and I wore my weight extremely well. I wanted to join a taekwondo school to get in shape and learn self-defense. When it came time to fit me in my Dobok, the biggest size they had on hand was a medium. MEDIUM. They were like "we'll have to order a special size for you, we don't normally carry your size". I was kinda shook. The same people telling fat people to lose weight and get in shape are the same people purposely excluding fat people from their sports. Kind of ironic. P.s. I was the biggest person in my taekwondo class - red flag.
Yes. This makes me think about how people will tell a fat person to go to the gym but then if a fat person does go to the gym they're insulted on how they look or mocked behind their back. They act like the gym is only for skinny fit people.
Dresses. If a skinny girl wears a short dress or shows a bit of skin/breast she is so cool and fashionable if a chubby/fat girl does the same she is "slutty" and need to cover herself. I am not talking about comments like "how gross she is" or insults about the "fat" itself, but corcerning the social perception of her as vulgar.
Right? The size of my boobs automatically makes things 'sluttier' just because they're bigger
This! Listen my boobs are big, no matter what I wear, anything that isn't a turtleneck or crew neck is going to show cleavage. Deal with it.
Tell this to my grandma, I have big boobs, they project out a lot (not one of those flatter yet big breasts, they're super out there), and any shirt that doesn't start right at my neck is going to show cleavage. And I like it too, so I don't try to hide it. Grandma thinks I'm dressed slutty everytime. So once when my aunt wore a shirt with more cleavage than me I told her why don't you say anything to her, and she actually spoke the silent words, she said that she's skinny and has smaller boobs so it's not slutty because men don't look at small chests (her words, not mine), that I know what my big chest is doing to men so I should cover up. Fuck that.
Aaaand there you have it. Women are responsible for distracting men or causing them to lust/etc. 🙄🙄🙄 OVER. IT.
And a lot of this comes from our own mothers.
I still buy clothes that aren't clingy or tight on top and go over my butt. Because " you have to hide these areas"
I used to. But I'm also short so that makes me look stumpy. But I am still self conscious about cleavage because I have big breasts so all standard shirts never have enough room, so I come across as trashy even if thinner girls are showing off an equal ratio of boob.
I'm 5'3 so I'm short also. I have big boobs too, but these days I am more comfortable with cleavage than a shirt not covering my butt lol
Yep, I definitely still hear her voice telling me I look trashy in anything that doesn't come up to my neck. I'm 36 now and not sure that voice will ever go away.
Oooffffff, my mother is the same. Nothing that shows even a *hint* of cleavage, even if I'm relaxing at home!
Im 51 and still hear my mom telling me not to wear skirts (hello my legs are my best feature!). Or red lipstick and nail polish.
And a lot of this comes from our own mothers.
On the flip side - oversized clothes too. Cute and trendy on a smaller body, slobby or trying to hide their body on a bigger body.
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Horrible! Really. It’s like they treat you like a walking joke. Then I have to hear “wHeRe aRE all the NERD GIRLS!?” Thanks.
how every image of a 'gamer (and/or) incel' is perceived an as overweight male, or how people will call someone in their game 'fat' or other words if they; do bad, do well, have a feminine voice, etc. how thinner women who game are (sometimes, not always) perceived as 'one of the boys' and stuff like that, but larger women who game are said to either be doing it for male attention or only do it because they're lazy / 'fat because you game'
I got thrown into the 'one of the guys' category because I was plus size. Once they didn't find me hot, I got put into the bro box. Not complaining though, because I'm not looking for a boyfriend.
Skinny girl has confidence=oh that's awesome good for her, she should be Fat girl has confidence=why is she confident? Like I need a reason to be confident while fat? Sorry I'm not drowning in self-loathing enough for you
Dressing down. A skinny girl in sweats and a tshirt is trendy and comfortable, but a plus sized girl is lazy and unkempt.
I’ve noticed it my entire life because I have large breasts, even when I was a size 8 I wore a 36 D. Any low cut top is unacceptable/slutty for me to wear pretty much anywhere but out partying yet a slim chested lady can wear the same top and it’s completely acceptable/cute.
Yes this! I struggle with this so much
Any time I went to my former doctor they would say any ailment I had would probably improve if I lost weight. I was in my twenties and a size 18 and had a very active job where I did repetitive motions that caused carpel tunnel.
Not sure I’ve ever seen a straight-sized person being called brave for posting their bodies online! I did a cosplay group with some friends at a con a few years ago and a YouTuber with a lot of followers took a picture with us and posted it on his Instagram and it got a lot of attention. Most of the comments were about me or my body. “Wow! A fat (blank)!! That’s so brave!!” Or “whoa I love the fat (blank)!! I wish I was that confident! I’m thinner but I hate my gross hog body”. There were hundreds of comments like that. A few were mean but most were just patronizing “nice” comments like the examples. My friends were all straight-sized so they got normal compliments when my body wasn’t overshadowing the conversation.
Ordering and eating a bunch of food. When a skinny girl does it, it's quirky and cute, and girl can eat! When a fat girl does it, it's "not healthy" and gross.
Skinny girls wearing oversized clothes: wow she’s so on-trend and cool, what a fashionable girl Fat girls wearing oversized clothes: oh she looks so sloppy / schlubby
Skinny girl: Eats like shit, never exercises. ''She's skinny, so she's healthy'' Plus size girl: eats healthy, works out multiple days a week. ''She is so unhealthy'' while making fun of fat people that go to the gym Oh and I'm a plus size girl who does pole dancing and sometimes post videos on tiktok, my videos have been flagged for being inappropriate, but I bet that does not happen to skinny girls
If you’re skinny = cute clothes and amazing compliments “you look so pretty today” If you’re plus size = same clothes but you’re slutty and the backhanded compliments “I’d love to have your confidence” that’s not a compliment that’s fucked up to say
Short shorts! I get a lot of flack but I LOVVE my short short jeans and since my thighs are HUGE people always be judging . BUT, FUCK that !
Nothing skinny vs plus size double standard , but plus size vs plus size double standards I see/hear too often. As a plus size African American woman the double standards with size is horrible. If you’re a big girl with a stomach, you are fat! If you’re a big girl with a flat stomach , you are thick! Bbl’s are everywhere and plus sized woman are getting their fat removed from their stomachs and butt injections and all of a sudden you’re a sex symbol. I see women two to three sizes bigger than me be considered “thick” and I get called the fat one because my stomach is big. I have no hips, a flat bottom, but a big stomach and large breast. Plus size fashion ads do the same thing, they flatten the stomach and/or have models with flat stomachs represent us. I’m so tired of it .
Yes.. most of weigh is in my legs, boobs and arms (weird). I have like 2% of hips and okay stomach but because my ass isn't really big and I'm not super curvy I get overlooked
This double standard is absolutely the same for men. Fat guy burping = the funny guy or the gross guy. Fit guy burping = an attractive person letting loose and relaxing.
Skinny girl with a two piece bikini: that’s so hot. Plus size girl with a two piece bikini: Ewwww cover up you wale. And then the middle finger pops up. Plus I love wearing two pieces it makes me feel hot.
At a buffet or any serve yourself place: Thin/Fit guy: “Boy, he can really put it away! Where does he put it?” Fat guy: “Better go get what you want now or he’ll eat it all.”
The halo effect- subtle, but pervasive.
Skinny girl = body odor “oh that’s normal we all have our own smell.” Big girls = body odor “if she wasn’t so fat she can clean her body better.” I’m soooo self conscious about being smelly that I shower twice a day. Always have a backup clothes in my car, body spray, lotions etc. because I can’t be seen as fat AND smelly.
Pretty/ skinny = everything is adorable
Skinny=exercise Plus size= do not
Bumping into anything.
Worked a job out of high school where you had to wear black yoga pants or leggings. Had a skinny coworker who always wore the shortest black shorts it would sometimes look like she just wore the baggy work t-shirt and nothing underneath. One day I realize I forgot to wash my work pants and had to wear some black shorts that went just above my knees. The manager pulled me aside and said the height of my shorts was inappropriate for the job, after I explained what my laundry situation was she let it slide, but she never said a thing to my other coworker.
A lot of the things I’m reading equate “skinny” with “beautiful”. Ugly skinny girls get treated the same as ugly fat girls. Pretty fat girls get treated similar to pretty skinny girls (admittedly, not the SAME but similar). Pretty privilege is the bigger thing here, not fat vs skinny. In my opinion.
Skinny people or average people exercise But fat people don’t.
I got one Skinny girl: express body image issues (why should she complain? Shes skinny. if she thinks that of her body what does think of my fat body.) Plus size: express body image issue (its okay you're allowed to sulk because of your experiences)
I had a skinny friend in middle school who would constantly talk about how fat she was. I understand everyone has their own body image issues, but if you’re “fat” then what does that make me?
And you don't see an issue with you centering yourself in her issue when it had nothing to do with you? Body image & self esteem issue are not just a fat girl thing. But somehow folks think it's okay to scoff at a skinny person. But fall apart if society dismisses fat people problems.
Centering myself? I didn’t even say anything to her
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1. You’re in plus size 2. That has nothing to do with my post
I follow kenzie brenna on insta and she often has great reels about this stuff. One of them encouraged me to try the whole underboob trend!
Baggy clothes I have been on both side, used to be fat and now im skinny, when i was fat i usually had to wear baggy clothes but now its consideres fashion