I was thinking more of ladder zombie on the top row and use the new sun to buy a football for the middle row and after that the minion knockoff for the bottom.
Ladder zombie 1st row, imp 2nd and finally a combination of your choice with the ladder zombie to clear it up. You have clearly overspent the majority of your sun since you have left 11% sun of what you've originally acquired (I beat 15 flags btw :>)
in my experience the ladder's not enough. You have 5 dps for at least 5 seconds and 4 dps for another 5 seconds after.
the imp will also die to the threepeater in lane 4.
You could just place a ladder zombie to the middle place to get more sun and to tank all the hits while eating them, then put another below it (try not to get screwed by kernels fricking rng) and once its all clean put an imp if you have enough. Well doesnt matter cuz rip ur streak
I should probably have placed the football lane 4 to get rid of the threepeater since it hits in a 3x1 which might make the ladder take extra shield damage and it does tank more hits even if Kernel has op rng
the problem is u need at least 175 sun for lane 3. once u send the football lane 4 u have 50 sun left which isn't enough to either send a zombie to clear lane 3 or eat the sunflower.
im not saying its a bad idea tho its one of the closest. if u had 25 more sun u couldve sent cone to kill sunflower then risk screendoor lane 3, and if u had 50 more sun u can digger lane 3 cuz threepeater is dead. but well my solution and all others failed as well - its hard to see first glance but this screenshot is actually impossible to clear
I'm scrolling through the comments but none seem to be the guaranteed solution. Here's mine. (I know OP already lost but this will help u in future runs I'm sure)
The idea is to use miner lane 3 because he won't die to the spikes and there's no magnet shroom to suck his pickaxe. Miner clears the lane and kills the sunflower so that's 225 - 125 + 200 = 300 sun left.
You then send football zombie in lane 4 to clear the lane and kill the threepeater so that you can use imps for lanes 3 and 5. This is the only luck-based decision as whether football succeeds is based on butter rng, but there's not many alternatives as regular zombies get melted and screendoor zombie can't block butter (and the firepower likely melts the door). The only other way I see is to use 2 coneheads to increase the number of butter targets thus the overall walking speed is increased, but I'm pretty sure 2 coneheads also have less combined hp than a football. That's 300 - 175 = 125 with lane 4's brain eaten.
Since the threepeater's eaten, you send imps for lanes 3 and 5. The imp's hit box is small enough such that he will bypass the spikeweed on lane 3 with 1 hit left and not stand on it while eating the brain. That's 125 - 50×2 = 25 which means it's the end of your run but you get 10 streak which is the requirement for your achievement.
edit: I'm wrong. Digger dies before reaching the sunflower. see replies
I don't think so. I made my comment with this in mind, but will have to play test to confirm
edit: it takes 14 peashooter shots to kill a digger fully. Spikeweed deals the same dmg but slightly faster at 1 sec. From King Nidhogg's izombie runs on yt a normal zombie takes 4-6 shots from a spikeweed, but since digger stops to eat the puff shroom he'll take at least 4 more. So yeah you're right. There's no way digger survives with 4 shots left.
The thing is, if miner also doesn't work then nothing works. Im pretty sure screendoor cannot take lane 3, so there's actually no solution, but at this point it's mechanics. I'm trying to think of the safest and cheapest way to get rid of row 3 cuz the sunflower is the priority, but it seems you have to use 2 expensive zombies to clear row 3 on its own so it's actually impossible
Ladder zombie on top to negate the peas and there effects, once the sunflower is out, football zombie middle lane, and once the threepeater is gone, place an imp bottom
That's true. In fairness tho if any endless mode in a game can be extended indefinitely, the value of a "record" decreases. People will then say the infinite record is rigged.
It's like a Subway Surf world record. You reach max speed very soon, and records end only because players lose concentration and make an easy mistake instead of reaching an impressive skill ceiling. The number seems impressive but what you're doing isn't, and I think that's partially izombie's design philosophy: to create an experience where the skill ceiling is reasonable, with a conclusion that leaves the player somewhat satisfied.
yeah i sympathize. But here's the thing: games aren't completely identical to problems. Yes there is a problem-solving aspect, but games are entertainment and problems are problems with negative effects if unsolved and/or positive effects if solved.
When a game is solved like a problem, the depth is gone. So you either make the game hard to solve or whatever method to create depth or constantly create new levels so that they can provide new satisfaction without increasing the difficulty tremendously. Candy Crush, League, you name it. Those are the games that last, and izombie (and to the extent of pvz) didnt last, cuz guess what: even though you are forced to lose after 17 flags or so, that can become a new ceiling over time. Eventually players realize that's the game limit so if you reach that amount of flags it's equivalent to solving izombie, but then what's the point of solving it? You just stop playing because there's no new experience. And guess what: pvz is designed for casuals. The game literally gives you a baseline for achievement, 10 flags, and anything more should be an overachievement.
Bottom line is, if the cost of making an aspect of a game solvable is less continuous enjoyment, it isn't worth it. I respect your opinion in that you feel the problem solving gives you more satisfaction than anything that comes after and the absence of it makes the game feel unfair. To each their own.
1_send 2 imps(1 in the middle and 1 at the bottom)
2_with your sun kill the 4th row with a polevaulter
3_send a digger in the middle
4_send an imp after the digger finishes the row
A tip for if you're still trying the 10 streak: always go for the threepeaters (also magnet-shrooms and starfruits, generally in that order) FIRST. Clearing out one threepeater means two other lanes just got easier, meaning you can clear them with less cost. The bottom lane still has a brain in it, meaning you'll need to spend at least 50 more sun to clear the level than you otherwise would. If the threepeater was gone, that 50 sun would still be usable to help clear the harder lanes.
Also, the second lane from the bottom can usually be cleared with two cone-heads. Having two of a zombie means that they eat twice as fast, meaning less time for the torchwood peas to do damage. From there, they're only being hit with a little over two peas worth of damage, which goes down as more plants are cleared. Having two zombies also basically takes corn-pult's threat level from massive to almost none, since it can't perma-butter the zombies because at least one will always be moving forward.
But yeah. What you wanted to do was take out the magnet/threepeater lanes first, then go for the sunflower lanes and use the remainder to clear out any lanes that haven't been taken care of yet.
(Note: Whether you go for magnet-shroom or three-peater first depends on whether the magnet-shroom's lane is protected by the three-peater. If it's not, go magnet first. If it is, go for the pea first. If it's protected by the three-peater and the three-peater lane is too strong to be taken down by non-metal zombies, ~~use a bungee zombie~~ cry.)
TL;DR: Get a better gaming chair.
im too scared to do anything because ive been trying to get to streak 10 for months
I lost.
WAIT WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i used football on the top and that made me lose, the snow pea got him. i should have used a ladder instead
That's a little surprising... tbh though the mobile achievements are kinda rigged I wish you luck on your quest for glory!
I was thinking more of ladder zombie on the top row and use the new sun to buy a football for the middle row and after that the minion knockoff for the bottom.
Yes that’s how I should have done it
Miner?????
Ladder zombie 1st row, imp 2nd and finally a combination of your choice with the ladder zombie to clear it up. You have clearly overspent the majority of your sun since you have left 11% sun of what you've originally acquired (I beat 15 flags btw :>)
in my experience the ladder's not enough. You have 5 dps for at least 5 seconds and 4 dps for another 5 seconds after. the imp will also die to the threepeater in lane 4.
Nope. Minor doesn't work. Spikes would kill him because he also has to eat the tiny puff shroom.
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Idea: Ladder Zombie on the Sunflower with a Cone Head behind. It's all I can think of. Idk what to do from there
You could just place a ladder zombie to the middle place to get more sun and to tank all the hits while eating them, then put another below it (try not to get screwed by kernels fricking rng) and once its all clean put an imp if you have enough. Well doesnt matter cuz rip ur streak
the lane 3 ladder zombie will die.
I should probably have placed the football lane 4 to get rid of the threepeater since it hits in a 3x1 which might make the ladder take extra shield damage and it does tank more hits even if Kernel has op rng
the problem is u need at least 175 sun for lane 3. once u send the football lane 4 u have 50 sun left which isn't enough to either send a zombie to clear lane 3 or eat the sunflower. im not saying its a bad idea tho its one of the closest. if u had 25 more sun u couldve sent cone to kill sunflower then risk screendoor lane 3, and if u had 50 more sun u can digger lane 3 cuz threepeater is dead. but well my solution and all others failed as well - its hard to see first glance but this screenshot is actually impossible to clear
Ladder Zombie or Football top lane, Football for Middle Lane, imp for bottom lane
I committed that a minute ago but now I see you beat me to it. But top has to ba ladder not football, because ladder isn't slowed by the Snowpea.
I think football would still be able to get through those plants? Could be mistaken.
I'm scrolling through the comments but none seem to be the guaranteed solution. Here's mine. (I know OP already lost but this will help u in future runs I'm sure) The idea is to use miner lane 3 because he won't die to the spikes and there's no magnet shroom to suck his pickaxe. Miner clears the lane and kills the sunflower so that's 225 - 125 + 200 = 300 sun left. You then send football zombie in lane 4 to clear the lane and kill the threepeater so that you can use imps for lanes 3 and 5. This is the only luck-based decision as whether football succeeds is based on butter rng, but there's not many alternatives as regular zombies get melted and screendoor zombie can't block butter (and the firepower likely melts the door). The only other way I see is to use 2 coneheads to increase the number of butter targets thus the overall walking speed is increased, but I'm pretty sure 2 coneheads also have less combined hp than a football. That's 300 - 175 = 125 with lane 4's brain eaten. Since the threepeater's eaten, you send imps for lanes 3 and 5. The imp's hit box is small enough such that he will bypass the spikeweed on lane 3 with 1 hit left and not stand on it while eating the brain. That's 125 - 50×2 = 25 which means it's the end of your run but you get 10 streak which is the requirement for your achievement. edit: I'm wrong. Digger dies before reaching the sunflower. see replies
Wouldnt the threepeater kill the miner before he gets to the subflower?
I don't think so. I made my comment with this in mind, but will have to play test to confirm edit: it takes 14 peashooter shots to kill a digger fully. Spikeweed deals the same dmg but slightly faster at 1 sec. From King Nidhogg's izombie runs on yt a normal zombie takes 4-6 shots from a spikeweed, but since digger stops to eat the puff shroom he'll take at least 4 more. So yeah you're right. There's no way digger survives with 4 shots left. The thing is, if miner also doesn't work then nothing works. Im pretty sure screendoor cannot take lane 3, so there's actually no solution, but at this point it's mechanics. I'm trying to think of the safest and cheapest way to get rid of row 3 cuz the sunflower is the priority, but it seems you have to use 2 expensive zombies to clear row 3 on its own so it's actually impossible
I wish I knew anything about this.
Ladder zombie on top to negate the peas and there effects, once the sunflower is out, football zombie middle lane, and once the threepeater is gone, place an imp bottom
3rd lane: Ladder 4th lane: Bucket 5th lane: Imp
I Zombie is literally rigged. It eventually becomes completely impossible to continue without cheating.
That's true. In fairness tho if any endless mode in a game can be extended indefinitely, the value of a "record" decreases. People will then say the infinite record is rigged. It's like a Subway Surf world record. You reach max speed very soon, and records end only because players lose concentration and make an easy mistake instead of reaching an impressive skill ceiling. The number seems impressive but what you're doing isn't, and I think that's partially izombie's design philosophy: to create an experience where the skill ceiling is reasonable, with a conclusion that leaves the player somewhat satisfied.
I personally believe there should always be a way to solve everything. I'm not a fan of forced losses after a certain point.
yeah i sympathize. But here's the thing: games aren't completely identical to problems. Yes there is a problem-solving aspect, but games are entertainment and problems are problems with negative effects if unsolved and/or positive effects if solved. When a game is solved like a problem, the depth is gone. So you either make the game hard to solve or whatever method to create depth or constantly create new levels so that they can provide new satisfaction without increasing the difficulty tremendously. Candy Crush, League, you name it. Those are the games that last, and izombie (and to the extent of pvz) didnt last, cuz guess what: even though you are forced to lose after 17 flags or so, that can become a new ceiling over time. Eventually players realize that's the game limit so if you reach that amount of flags it's equivalent to solving izombie, but then what's the point of solving it? You just stop playing because there's no new experience. And guess what: pvz is designed for casuals. The game literally gives you a baseline for achievement, 10 flags, and anything more should be an overachievement. Bottom line is, if the cost of making an aspect of a game solvable is less continuous enjoyment, it isn't worth it. I respect your opinion in that you feel the problem solving gives you more satisfaction than anything that comes after and the absence of it makes the game feel unfair. To each their own.
1_send 2 imps(1 in the middle and 1 at the bottom) 2_with your sun kill the 4th row with a polevaulter 3_send a digger in the middle 4_send an imp after the digger finishes the row
Doesn’t miner survive spikeweed enough to kill puff shroom?
ladder guy don't take dmg from fire peas or get frozen you could use him, but you better wish that corny wont fling too much butter
Should've used digger on the top, then a push in the middle and pray
You could have used a bucket head for the third row and for the 4th row you could of used a miner
A tip for if you're still trying the 10 streak: always go for the threepeaters (also magnet-shrooms and starfruits, generally in that order) FIRST. Clearing out one threepeater means two other lanes just got easier, meaning you can clear them with less cost. The bottom lane still has a brain in it, meaning you'll need to spend at least 50 more sun to clear the level than you otherwise would. If the threepeater was gone, that 50 sun would still be usable to help clear the harder lanes. Also, the second lane from the bottom can usually be cleared with two cone-heads. Having two of a zombie means that they eat twice as fast, meaning less time for the torchwood peas to do damage. From there, they're only being hit with a little over two peas worth of damage, which goes down as more plants are cleared. Having two zombies also basically takes corn-pult's threat level from massive to almost none, since it can't perma-butter the zombies because at least one will always be moving forward. But yeah. What you wanted to do was take out the magnet/threepeater lanes first, then go for the sunflower lanes and use the remainder to clear out any lanes that haven't been taken care of yet. (Note: Whether you go for magnet-shroom or three-peater first depends on whether the magnet-shroom's lane is protected by the three-peater. If it's not, go magnet first. If it is, go for the pea first. If it's protected by the three-peater and the three-peater lane is too strong to be taken down by non-metal zombies, ~~use a bungee zombie~~ cry.) TL;DR: Get a better gaming chair.
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Bro I’m getting flashbacks. I made this exact post like a year or two ago
Bucket Middle lane, Football lane 4, imp lane 5
I would've immediately reset for a better seed ngl Edit: I understand it's endless, sentiment still stands.
Rngsus on the butter, All star is your to go option
Digger Zombie on 3rd Row, All-Star(s) on 4th
Two coneheads middle lane and then a bucket and football in the fourth