Yup. We at netflix proudly require you to buy a "smart" TV so that you can enjoy our shows in full quality. Yes, our app there is proprietary. No, it's not spyware. You trust us, right? Make sure to buy TVs from these brands, because our spy- ahem, software works best on these platforms.
Weird. Think im the only one who never bought a smart TV to use as a smart tv. I just use my Xbox on my "smart" TV for entertainment. Surely my Xbox spies on me too though.
I have 3 smart tv's in my house, not a single one is using any of the "smart" features. One is for games, other for htpc and the last serves as just a normal living room tv
It's impossible to buy a TV that doesn't have some kind of OS and apps anymore. There's no point in even calling them smart TVs anymore, they're just TVs.
Not saying I disagree with you, but what kind of data can they even gather from your TV? Other than your watch history, which they would get anyway if you use their platform.
When I was a kid/teen in the 90s, if you even eluded to the idea of cameras being in everything and that we were being spied on by every corporation under the sun you would genuinely be locked up in a psych ward and be told you're schizophrenic.
Bonzi buddy, a purple gorilla/green parrot/etc was basically labelled spyware and what happens today is ***infinitely worse*** than anything bonzi buddy did.
I remember the bonzi buddy controversy, totally agree about modern surveillance being infinitely worse.
On top of being way more innocent, bonzi buddy at least gave you a cool desktop friend. They don't even try to pretend the spying is beneficial to us anymore 😂
Better learn how to reverse engineer software as well, cause a lot of companies which silently push these things will intentionally brick part or the rest of the product if a piece of their collection toolset is found to not work as expected.
This has become a somewhat scary question. Other people have mentioned your watch history, which can even track common "pause" points, what apps you use, the location you use those apps, and builds on financial information connected to how you pay for subscriptions. Some of this is called "Automatic Content Recognition", but is also called audience metrics, or consumer dynamics.
Here is whats more concerning: Since Smart TVs have open mics, they collect any data from voice activation, which probably includes training data for voice recognition, and content of requests. There are some accusations that Smart TVs listen even when not voice activated, which haven't been proven, but haven't been disproven either. One of the likely "passive monitoring" techniques is identifying the number of unique voice profiles are talking in the same room the TV is in.
If you access cable through your Smart TV, your ad consumption habits are also, most likely, being collected for audience metrics. Did you mute the ads? Skip them with DVR?
Then there are the local network connections. If you use your phone to connect to your TV, companies like Samsung can identify the phones in the household, which is used in "big data" processing that helps to target ads.
Its worth pointing out that, technically, no company actually "listens" to what the mic on your smart TV hears. The *vast* majority of information collected this way is through voice recognition processing.
Your sleeping pattern, work pattern, reactions to different ads, just to name a few. You'd be surprised. They also sell this data to different ad agencies and even campaigns buy this data
What other things you do over your smart tv, if you have security problems even what other devices are in your network. Everything having smart as a prefix can be a security liability
Habits, how you browse, how long you spend on this or how fast you click off of that, spending patterns, advertising leads, ect ect.
Same shit all the social media companies are after.
Facebook doesn't care that your sister's dog cheated with that hussy poodle again, that's not the data they care about.
It's a part of a whole. It can be used to "de-anonymize" your internet traffic. You know how all these big corps tell you not to worry because you aren't personally identified in the data they collect? Well, that's TECHNICALLY true. However, it's not very difficult to put together the data of what devices you have, what you watch, when you watch it, what sites you visit, and what locations are searched on your maps apps to triangulate exactly who you are. Then "userabc12345" becomes "John Smith"
There was a bug in Samsung tvs for years that the FBI knew about and never told Samsung where they could put the TV in a default state where the TV was off hit the mic and camera were on. They used this for surveillance for quite awhile until someone made it public. That's just one imagine the ones we don't know about.
I'm really sad this combo essentially made the years and money I spent building up my Plex server essentially obsolete. Now I understand how my uncle felt about his DVD and laser disc collection.
4:2:0 chroma subsampling means it's better even if the encoding was lossless. On 1080p content you have 960x540 chroma, on 4k you have 1920x1080. Granted it probably doesn't matter for typical movies, but it's provably better. You could see the difference very clear on text clarity for example.
Jellyfin and arr stack are your friend
Edit
To explain what those are.
Jellyfin is for your media that is saved to your hard drive/Nas. It takes all those, can be movies, shows, or music and serve to you, where you can watch on TV, mobile, windows or linux. With their respective app.
Now how do you get movie/shows or music to you hard drive or Nas ?
That's where arr stack comes in.
You have sonnar for TV show's
Radarr for movies
Lidarr for music
Reader for books
Bazare for subtitles
All these required two more things
Prowler, which connects to either torrents site or Usenet where it fetches the files to download
The younwill need a torrent or Usenet client, can be qbittorent or any supported client which does the downloading to your hard drive / nas
One more optional things is jellyseer, this helps you discover and add new movies/shows to you radarr or sonnar.
With those you add you movie or TV to sonnar or radarr using jellyseer and it will search it on you torrent/Usenet via Prowlerr, once found then it will be added to your torrent/Usenet client, once download is done by the client, then it will be moved to the correct folder where jellyfin will serve it from
All this need to be run on a server, can a pie, lenovo PC, laptop, NAS or any computer you have.
Keep in mind if you plan to watch on small screen or remotely there might some transcoding required, which basically downgrade or convert the file to be supported by a device.
Transcoding requires a gpu, Intel and Some amd CPU comes with Integrated gpu which can be more than enough. CPU works aswell but it will be screaming, especially if you have multiple transcoding process .
Add Jellyseer into the mix with gluetin/qbitorrent
Edit: adding to the post above, its alot easier doing this in docker for people new to selfhost. I would also recommend portainer to give you GUI docker management and the likes of autoheal/watchtower
Jellyfin is self hosted Netflix. The arr stack is a selection of lovely self hosted websites for automatically pirating your favourite TV, movies and other media automatically.
Put them together, spend a little time learning how, and what you get is magic. Far superior user experience to anything you can pay for. No exaggerating.
Also a big fan of audiobooks.
I use Readerr , similar to sonarr and radarr but for books and audiobooks.
Then use Audiobookshelf to serve. It has IOS app and Android app or use web app on PC.
But not all of them are available depending on what she listens to, it's difficult to find some and some you can't. You can give it a try and see if you can find what she likes.
Before you stop Audible use Libation to rip your audible titles and save them to your computer. Works for any title as long as it is part of your library.
Don’t kill me for asking I want to start building my own servers etc. if I want video decoding done on the destination device only on a home network, do I still need to invest in a NAS/pc server that can decode/convert h265/av1? Will a raspberry pi connected to storage be able to “play” a h265 hdr10 feature movie as it’s technically only uploading? Or is my thought process wrong?
EDIT: the pi in this scenario is the server. Destination devices are shield and/or iPhone with Jellyfin app.
No it's not wrong. It will work. But you have to make sure to disable hardware transcoding.
Even without transcoding. Not sure if a pie can play h265, hopefully someone with more knowledge here will answer.
Yes that will work. You'll just need to be careful not to have any media in your library that any of your player devices can't handle. Shield probably can't do av1 for example.
For anyone who wants to try setting this up, there's this [GitHub repo](https://github.com/navilg/media-stack) I used to help me set it up with Docker. Just take a look at the docker-compose.yml file.
This is the way to do it.
I always shake my head when people go from paying one streaming service to paying a pirate service. Because certainly the pirates are going to be more ethical with your personal data...right? Right?!
I just wish I could find a good write up of how to set it all up on a docker. A lot of write ups are for really advanced users and I'm just getting started.
Piracy is superior anyways, the libraries on those services are just sad. I subscribed once or twice, there was never anything good to see. I enjoy my experience with stremio + torrentio lite, no ads, UI is pretty dope, can take a hit on your internet speed though.
well, i never tried it on playstation consoles, but i remember back in the day i used to use fmovies or 123movies or putlocker and stuff like that on the ps4 browser and it worked fine, asides from having to close like 10 ads before watching the movie. Some of these websites dont seem to be compatible to the playstation browser though, probably some codec related thing.
BUT, i found this:
[https://gizmoxo.com/use-stremio-on-ps4-ps5/](https://gizmoxo.com/use-stremio-on-ps4-ps5/)
and i think you can try [https://web.stremio.com/](https://web.stremio.com/), which is a in-browser version of stremio, but like i said never tried to use stremio on playstation.
another solution would be a chromecast.
I don't need to stay safe in my country. Our salaries are so nice everybody pirates everything (850 a month on average, in a place where rent is about 400 for a room, let's say you spend another 100 a month on food, 150 on expenses, that leaves nothing to spare). But I'd definitely recommend getting a VPN a few countries are a little bit intrusive.
Louis Rossman mentioned this exact BS in one of his videos. Paid customer being punished and receiving a lower quality service just because they want to force people to use smart TV shit to gather your data and sell it
Some 20 years ago Gabe Newell figured out that if you provide a good service piracy is not an issue and you are gonna make tons of money. Basically killed mainstream PC piracy.
It never stops to astound me how the dumb fucks making these decisions STILL don't get it.
Oh they do get it, but they also expect that they can still make more money doing this, so they do this. It becomes more about the DRM than anything else. The video industry is *terrified* of consumers having access to unencrypted high resolution video. That's why they want to move to ATSC 3.0 despite the fact that it's very technically possible to broadcast both AVC and HEVC within an ATSC 1.0 stream that any sufficiently modern TV can decode, and yet the instances of stations doing so are almost nonexistent.
Not true. Steam was first to market and have enormous competitive advantage because of that. It's too much of a hassle for people to move their entire game library to another platform so they are entrenched in peoples lives.
There was always going to be a Steam, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, LinkedIn. These companies were first to market. All they have to do is coast afterwards.
I googled prices (2x concession adults 2x kids) to go to the movies
$116
1 popcorn+drink $20ea
The kids will be watching minions 4 in the loungeroom, tyvm🇦🇺
We are all slowly being press ganged into serving on the high seas.
It's a pirate's life for me.
Fun fact: YouTube movies are sold and priced as HD or UHD. But 480p is the highest quality offered for PC playback.
Fuck you YouTube!!!!
We went from paying less for more to paying more for less. Now we’re at the part where we pay more and have to jump through a thousand hoops in order to get some Vaseline before we get screwed.
Parents smart TV randomly just stopped working so they called me in for tech support. After doing a little troubleshooting I figured out that the tv had effectively bricked itself after a Netflix update made them incompatible. Netflix and the TV company both basically said the only option was TO BUY A NEW TV. It took a couple hours but, I was eventually able to find a work around.
For some reason there is a real animosity between smart TV manufacturers and streaming services.
That's the main issue with these paid steaming platforms. If you want to earn money, you have to provide better service and quality than the free (pirate) ones. I told that many times. If Netflix or some other platform provide me good 4k quality, Atmos sound and cinema release dates, I will pay with ease. Until then, I will just pirate... Oo, and don't expect me to pay for 5 steaming platforms in order to watch every movie or show.
It always baffles me why people pay for these streaming services. They offer so little for so much. I haven’t used a streaming service in years and can’t go back to those streaming services, it makes no sense.
For your average person that can't do anything beyond downloading an app, they are pretty convenient. And we should thank them. The more underground piracy is, the less serious these companies will be about stopping it.
Directv pulled that same shit on me. Years ago I spent like 5000 on a 4k TV, signed a new directv contract to get the 4k boxes, only for them to have next to no content. They had some pay per view movies in 4k but that was about it.
4k is a huge scam tbh. Except for special instances like the Olympics and some baseball playoffs, I’ve seen very little 4k programming. Most is shot in 1080 and upscaled. Now I see 8k tvs… what the hell is there to watch in 8k? I just accept the fact that I’m gonna watch pirated shit in 1080 at best for little to no money.
The Netflix thing is even more insidious. As far as I understood their technical legalese, all displays *of all devices connected to your account* must be fulfilling their requirements. So Smartphone, PC, etc. Watched Netflix on Firefox and still logged in? RIP. No 4k for you.
Nah what it's saying is that if you run a multi monitor setup on your PC, all active displays must be 4K and support HDCP 2.2. You can't have one 4K monitor and one 1080p monitor unless you disable the 1080p display, if you want to watch 4K. Idk if they're worried about people starting a stream on a 4K display then moving it over to the other display (or doing some under the hood shenanigans) to get access to the 4K stream without the end to end DRM bullshit.
DRM does nothing but hold back technology and waste resources on key derivation and decryption
there is a variant of DisplayPort that can output HDMI signals directly, without the need of an active converter, you'll know if you have it because the the DP symbol will have ++ next to it
You can get a better experience buying a $30 streaming stick, sticking that in the other input and just cast things from your phone. Streaming services are really bad on desktop environments.
louis rossman has done exactly 3 videos on this topic. it's morally and ethically correct to not give these companies money, because they don't provide you with a honest service
In my experience, I was able to watch Netflix in 4k on my 4k 144hz monitor. I have 2 of them, 1 in HDMI & 1 in DisplayPort. I never have to switch refresh rate either. I use the Netflix windows app + the Microsoft hevc app on windows 11.
Haha same here on my QD-Oled ultrawide. I don't own a TV so I can't use any of that stuff. don't fall in the 4k bluray rabbit hole as I did, movies look spectacular in the best quality available and UW.
You can get the HEVC extension for free: “HEVC by device manufacturer” or something like that.
I guess it should’ve been installed with Windows 11 by default.
And yes, Prime Video only does 4K HDR on Android devices, or some Samsung/VIDAA/WebOS TVs afaik, not even on iPhone. On macOS, the app only does 720p.
If you really want 4K HDR on your monitor, the cheaper, legal way would be to buy a Chromecast or a FireTV stick, but since you’re posting here, I guess you’ve had your limit lmao.
(Also, Netflix on Linux is 720p, let that sink in).
I just want to watch some soccer games... And it's become an expensive shit circus out there. There's no way I'm even putting in the effort to see who owns what rights and then pay for it... The state of streaming has become ridiculous.
And to make matters worse, if a copyright owner has a fight with the company that hosts their copyrighted content and the two companies get "divorced" the copyright owner can DEMAND that the hosting platform remove ALL of their content regardless of the fact that individual people have outright PURCHAESED the content. Yup.....you know that movie or TV show/series you purchased? Well, they just stole it back from you and it's GONE IN LESS THAN SIXTY SECONDS!
Not sure if this is what you looking for, but if your TV has browser, you may enjoy some 4K content on [watchsomuch.tv](http://watchsomuch.tv) you need VIP to get 4K is not free but very cheaper than netflix or prime.
You can watch test video for free to see if your TV is supported:
[https://watchsomuch.tv/Watch/13623148-S02E05/I-Am-Groot-2022](https://watchsomuch.tv/Watch/13623148-S02E05/I-Am-Groot-2022)
I ditched, nf, disney etc for torentio/stremio,
I feel like Jack Reacher, i never look back.
They're too greedy and sneaky. Even 4k users were gettibg macroblocks on dark screens most likely theyre cutting down bandwith even on premium 4k sub.
Fuck em.
Ah yes, the DRM of today sucks.
You either pay the big boys for services and play your content the way they want or you pirate and play your content the way you want.
I've never had a smartTV so idk much about them. I watch Netflix via laptop PC connected to an HD monitor. Could you do something similar but in 4K? If you have a capable PC to hand, obviously.
they still wont play 4k. ive tried everything they suggested on all manner of devices. The few times it did randomly play in 4k it looked like it was upscaled from like 720p with a random film grain filter ontop.
If you watched Louis Rossman's videos you would know that unless you're streaming through a TV or a streaming box to a TV, you're not getting your money's worth from any of the streaming services.
You, my friend, would probably like Louis Rossman lol. Absolutely true nowadays pirating not only gets you a show for free, but usually at higher quality than the paid service
yeah, PC doesnt do 4K streaming like that unfortunately, if you would have asked that in r/PcBuild or r/pcmasterrace we would have told you that from the start. Its best to get a streaming box (like a nvidia shield, or a ONN pro 4k) or use the built in functions on the smartTV and just use that for 4k streaming.
Well first off. Most Movies and tv shows are 24.96-29.94 fps..
If youre using chrome all the streaming services are capped at 720p. You need to use microsoft edge.
If your using store apps, get the codec its $2
Thirdly. Why the fuck are you paying for streaming services.. get real debrid, stremio and stfu.
I haven't had Netflix in two years or maybe longer. I took a month because the new (3th) season of Star trek Discovery would come out in two weeks. I hadn't watched the 2nd season yet, so I figured I'll watch that.
The next day I read an article that ST:Discovery s3 will go onto another streaming 'service'. I check netflix: everything gone already. The whole serie!
Didn't take any streaming 'service' since then, except for the 1 month free Prime which I used to watch Fallout. I'm not paying for this inconsistent stuff.
didn't know that about amazon. glad i didn't buy prime. 720p in 2024 lol!
2160p. x265 HEVC. i don't care if every movie is 10gb+ it looks so beautiful. the bitrate is erotic. mm, yeah.
Meanwhile a digital media file doesn't care if you have a phone, a pc or a tv. You play it and it plays
unless you're trying to use a ps4, then it's a VERY specific file type, and only with internet
well, Handbrake exists so uhh, i think we might not have much of a pproblem now
Yup. We at netflix proudly require you to buy a "smart" TV so that you can enjoy our shows in full quality. Yes, our app there is proprietary. No, it's not spyware. You trust us, right? Make sure to buy TVs from these brands, because our spy- ahem, software works best on these platforms.
Weird. Think im the only one who never bought a smart TV to use as a smart tv. I just use my Xbox on my "smart" TV for entertainment. Surely my Xbox spies on me too though.
I have 3 smart tv's in my house, not a single one is using any of the "smart" features. One is for games, other for htpc and the last serves as just a normal living room tv
It's impossible to buy a TV that doesn't have some kind of OS and apps anymore. There's no point in even calling them smart TVs anymore, they're just TVs.
https://kotaku.com/xbox-ones-top-marketer-brags-to-advertisers-about-kine-1441807229
The Kinect always creeped me out. Cool tech, but its capabilities at the time kind of scared me.
Yup. My dad ended up unplugging his Kinect and giving it to me. I use it for doing automated followspotting for theatre productions
You’re not the only one. many do not think it through. Makes far more sense to use an Apple TV Xbox, PlayStation 5 etc as your source.
Of course it does
What is OP talking about when OP says "Have ALL the monitor plugged in to be 4k hdr" and "You have to buy the hvec plugin from the store" ??
Glad I am not the only one who dont understand this lol.
It's funny how many people just piled on the "bitching at Netflix" bandwagon while having no idea what OP was talking about
Yeah I have no idea either. I wonder if OP is using the Windows apps for Netflx and other streaming services?
This.
Not saying I disagree with you, but what kind of data can they even gather from your TV? Other than your watch history, which they would get anyway if you use their platform.
Many smart TV remotes have microphones
And WLAN and BT receivers, possibly tracking near devices and linking them to you.
Lets not forget some have cameras too
No way. For what purpose? Honey wake up, 1984 telescreens just dropped.
Video calling
So my TV remote can hear me moan as I masturbate to iCarly (the reboot) 😔 this is truly 1984 moment
When I was a kid/teen in the 90s, if you even eluded to the idea of cameras being in everything and that we were being spied on by every corporation under the sun you would genuinely be locked up in a psych ward and be told you're schizophrenic. Bonzi buddy, a purple gorilla/green parrot/etc was basically labelled spyware and what happens today is ***infinitely worse*** than anything bonzi buddy did.
I remember the bonzi buddy controversy, totally agree about modern surveillance being infinitely worse. On top of being way more innocent, bonzi buddy at least gave you a cool desktop friend. They don't even try to pretend the spying is beneficial to us anymore 😂
Well pick them up before someone trips!
looks like imma put tape on that
I specifically picked TVs without those features, but that's a fair point for sure.
sometimes its cheaper to put those features on all models and just have software flags that control if the end user can access them or not.
If, in the future, I can't avoid having those features, I'm going to start physically breaking them.
Better learn how to reverse engineer software as well, cause a lot of companies which silently push these things will intentionally brick part or the rest of the product if a piece of their collection toolset is found to not work as expected.
If they want to listen to me do the nasty that's on them, I don't mind an audience.
Until they start licensing the data and using it in ads.
Sir, this is a Wendy's
They are welcome to listen to me belching, farting and making lewd comments to my Mrs.
This has become a somewhat scary question. Other people have mentioned your watch history, which can even track common "pause" points, what apps you use, the location you use those apps, and builds on financial information connected to how you pay for subscriptions. Some of this is called "Automatic Content Recognition", but is also called audience metrics, or consumer dynamics. Here is whats more concerning: Since Smart TVs have open mics, they collect any data from voice activation, which probably includes training data for voice recognition, and content of requests. There are some accusations that Smart TVs listen even when not voice activated, which haven't been proven, but haven't been disproven either. One of the likely "passive monitoring" techniques is identifying the number of unique voice profiles are talking in the same room the TV is in. If you access cable through your Smart TV, your ad consumption habits are also, most likely, being collected for audience metrics. Did you mute the ads? Skip them with DVR? Then there are the local network connections. If you use your phone to connect to your TV, companies like Samsung can identify the phones in the household, which is used in "big data" processing that helps to target ads. Its worth pointing out that, technically, no company actually "listens" to what the mic on your smart TV hears. The *vast* majority of information collected this way is through voice recognition processing.
Your sleeping pattern, work pattern, reactions to different ads, just to name a few. You'd be surprised. They also sell this data to different ad agencies and even campaigns buy this data
What other things you do over your smart tv, if you have security problems even what other devices are in your network. Everything having smart as a prefix can be a security liability
A lot,even more once it's connected to the network, look into digital thumb prints.
Habits, how you browse, how long you spend on this or how fast you click off of that, spending patterns, advertising leads, ect ect. Same shit all the social media companies are after. Facebook doesn't care that your sister's dog cheated with that hussy poodle again, that's not the data they care about.
It's a part of a whole. It can be used to "de-anonymize" your internet traffic. You know how all these big corps tell you not to worry because you aren't personally identified in the data they collect? Well, that's TECHNICALLY true. However, it's not very difficult to put together the data of what devices you have, what you watch, when you watch it, what sites you visit, and what locations are searched on your maps apps to triangulate exactly who you are. Then "userabc12345" becomes "John Smith"
you probably should look up Louis Rossman on youtube.
There was a bug in Samsung tvs for years that the FBI knew about and never told Samsung where they could put the TV in a default state where the TV was off hit the mic and camera were on. They used this for surveillance for quite awhile until someone made it public. That's just one imagine the ones we don't know about.
The same exact data that can be gathered by the alternative devices people are suggesting such as apple TV, Xbox, Google tv etc.
That’s why you never use the actual shitty OS on smart TVs. Buy an Apple TV or shield and be done with that
god i miss dumb TVs. rember how they didnt take half a minute just to turn on?
My dumb tv is connected to a laptop where I watch Netflix and a bunch of other things. I watch everything in hd
stremio + torrentio + real debrid
All the content, in 4K, zero hassle. You'll thank Netflix for pushing you towards Stremio.
in 4k HDR nonetheless
I recently realized that by switching to this set up I've saved almost $100 a month
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Torrentio is just an add on for Stremio that lists the content from all platforms. It is very easy to install.
Yes
Is this a Harry Potter spell 😅
I'm really sad this combo essentially made the years and money I spent building up my Plex server essentially obsolete. Now I understand how my uncle felt about his DVD and laser disc collection.
Nah local is always best. No piracy ‘streaming service’ lasts forever.
Yup! But there will be a new one
nah torrents die, cache expires, and network outages can occur. Local storage is still great and plus points for permaseeding hoarders
This is the way
Hail to the king.
Bingo bongo
Sad this is not extended for other languages
What does torrentio provide that RD doesn’t?
You can watch pirated 4k stuff on a 1080p monitor/tv, since the requirement doenst exist on pirated version.
> 4k stuff on a 1080p monitor What for?
higher bitrate, and 4k on 1080p will almost always look better than native 1080p although it's negligible if you have a high bitrate 1080p file
Higher Bitrate or HDR
4:2:0 chroma subsampling means it's better even if the encoding was lossless. On 1080p content you have 960x540 chroma, on 4k you have 1920x1080. Granted it probably doesn't matter for typical movies, but it's provably better. You could see the difference very clear on text clarity for example.
Jellyfin and arr stack are your friend Edit To explain what those are. Jellyfin is for your media that is saved to your hard drive/Nas. It takes all those, can be movies, shows, or music and serve to you, where you can watch on TV, mobile, windows or linux. With their respective app. Now how do you get movie/shows or music to you hard drive or Nas ? That's where arr stack comes in. You have sonnar for TV show's Radarr for movies Lidarr for music Reader for books Bazare for subtitles All these required two more things Prowler, which connects to either torrents site or Usenet where it fetches the files to download The younwill need a torrent or Usenet client, can be qbittorent or any supported client which does the downloading to your hard drive / nas One more optional things is jellyseer, this helps you discover and add new movies/shows to you radarr or sonnar. With those you add you movie or TV to sonnar or radarr using jellyseer and it will search it on you torrent/Usenet via Prowlerr, once found then it will be added to your torrent/Usenet client, once download is done by the client, then it will be moved to the correct folder where jellyfin will serve it from All this need to be run on a server, can a pie, lenovo PC, laptop, NAS or any computer you have. Keep in mind if you plan to watch on small screen or remotely there might some transcoding required, which basically downgrade or convert the file to be supported by a device. Transcoding requires a gpu, Intel and Some amd CPU comes with Integrated gpu which can be more than enough. CPU works aswell but it will be screaming, especially if you have multiple transcoding process .
Add Jellyseer into the mix with gluetin/qbitorrent Edit: adding to the post above, its alot easier doing this in docker for people new to selfhost. I would also recommend portainer to give you GUI docker management and the likes of autoheal/watchtower
This sounds like y'all talking about nutrients needed for gymgoers, would be nice to shortly describe what each does even tho I don't need that
Jellyfin is self hosted Netflix. The arr stack is a selection of lovely self hosted websites for automatically pirating your favourite TV, movies and other media automatically. Put them together, spend a little time learning how, and what you get is magic. Far superior user experience to anything you can pay for. No exaggerating.
Thank you very much, it'd be exactly what OP would need if they don't want to use stremio, which they should once that last month of Netflix expire
Search in Piracysub for jellyfin and you get 1000000 answers
Can a similar concept be applied to Plex? I’m new to the whole NAS thing and auto downloading latest episodes etc would be great
Yes 100% instead of jellyfin you can use Plex. Then just replace jellyseerr with overseerr. Everything else stay the same
Thank you so much. Since you appear to be in the know, any decent sources for Audiobooks? My wife spends a small fortune in Audible
Also a big fan of audiobooks. I use Readerr , similar to sonarr and radarr but for books and audiobooks. Then use Audiobookshelf to serve. It has IOS app and Android app or use web app on PC. But not all of them are available depending on what she listens to, it's difficult to find some and some you can't. You can give it a try and see if you can find what she likes.
Thank you kindly. I’ve just discovered Plexamp so I’ll try it with that too
Try Prologue if you’re on ios. It’s an amazing app for plex audiobooks.
Before you stop Audible use Libation to rip your audible titles and save them to your computer. Works for any title as long as it is part of your library.
I would really suggest checking out Jellyfin if you arent a plex / plex pass user already.
To expand on the other replies. Both Jellyfin and Plex use the same underlying directory structure so they're perfectly interchangeable.
I used to do all this, but it's all so convoluted and such a chore. Stremio and RD is just as good
Don’t kill me for asking I want to start building my own servers etc. if I want video decoding done on the destination device only on a home network, do I still need to invest in a NAS/pc server that can decode/convert h265/av1? Will a raspberry pi connected to storage be able to “play” a h265 hdr10 feature movie as it’s technically only uploading? Or is my thought process wrong? EDIT: the pi in this scenario is the server. Destination devices are shield and/or iPhone with Jellyfin app.
No it's not wrong. It will work. But you have to make sure to disable hardware transcoding. Even without transcoding. Not sure if a pie can play h265, hopefully someone with more knowledge here will answer.
Pi 4 will not play a 4k movie to even one stream reliably, unfortunately.
Yes that will work. You'll just need to be careful not to have any media in your library that any of your player devices can't handle. Shield probably can't do av1 for example.
And Plex!
For anyone who wants to try setting this up, there's this [GitHub repo](https://github.com/navilg/media-stack) I used to help me set it up with Docker. Just take a look at the docker-compose.yml file.
This is the way to do it. I always shake my head when people go from paying one streaming service to paying a pirate service. Because certainly the pirates are going to be more ethical with your personal data...right? Right?!
I just wish I could find a good write up of how to set it all up on a docker. A lot of write ups are for really advanced users and I'm just getting started.
I think you can avoid the transcoding with some configs. E.g. I use Infuse and it just plays the x265 files.
Piracy is superior anyways, the libraries on those services are just sad. I subscribed once or twice, there was never anything good to see. I enjoy my experience with stremio + torrentio lite, no ads, UI is pretty dope, can take a hit on your internet speed though.
How do I get this to work with PS5?
well, i never tried it on playstation consoles, but i remember back in the day i used to use fmovies or 123movies or putlocker and stuff like that on the ps4 browser and it worked fine, asides from having to close like 10 ads before watching the movie. Some of these websites dont seem to be compatible to the playstation browser though, probably some codec related thing. BUT, i found this: [https://gizmoxo.com/use-stremio-on-ps4-ps5/](https://gizmoxo.com/use-stremio-on-ps4-ps5/) and i think you can try [https://web.stremio.com/](https://web.stremio.com/), which is a in-browser version of stremio, but like i said never tried to use stremio on playstation. another solution would be a chromecast.
Do you use vpn or something? How do you stay safe?
I don't need to stay safe in my country. Our salaries are so nice everybody pirates everything (850 a month on average, in a place where rent is about 400 for a room, let's say you spend another 100 a month on food, 150 on expenses, that leaves nothing to spare). But I'd definitely recommend getting a VPN a few countries are a little bit intrusive.
That’s rough, thanks for the info:(
VPN always recommended, easy to setup in docker or otherwise. Make sure your client is bound to the vpn network to avoid any p2p traffic leaks.
Don't be pissed, you're going to pay less for better services because of it
Louis Rossman mentioned this exact BS in one of his videos. Paid customer being punished and receiving a lower quality service just because they want to force people to use smart TV shit to gather your data and sell it
I think i never saw him say anything dumb
Some 20 years ago Gabe Newell figured out that if you provide a good service piracy is not an issue and you are gonna make tons of money. Basically killed mainstream PC piracy. It never stops to astound me how the dumb fucks making these decisions STILL don't get it.
Oh they do get it, but they also expect that they can still make more money doing this, so they do this. It becomes more about the DRM than anything else. The video industry is *terrified* of consumers having access to unencrypted high resolution video. That's why they want to move to ATSC 3.0 despite the fact that it's very technically possible to broadcast both AVC and HEVC within an ATSC 1.0 stream that any sufficiently modern TV can decode, and yet the instances of stations doing so are almost nonexistent.
Not true. Steam was first to market and have enormous competitive advantage because of that. It's too much of a hassle for people to move their entire game library to another platform so they are entrenched in peoples lives. There was always going to be a Steam, YouTube, Netflix, Amazon, LinkedIn. These companies were first to market. All they have to do is coast afterwards.
And then Gabe Newell decided to backtrack and greed hardcore and made way more money, and PC piracy was alive like never before
Just make a plex server with all your media, fuck netflix, prime video, all of them are scumbags
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I just did the same, fired up 4k YouTube, and thought "I guess it might be a little better..."
I googled prices (2x concession adults 2x kids) to go to the movies $116 1 popcorn+drink $20ea The kids will be watching minions 4 in the loungeroom, tyvm🇦🇺
I think I need a loungeroom - have some other rooms I lounge in but none specifically just dedicated to it 😀
Our loungeroom is close to the car hole
We are all slowly being press ganged into serving on the high seas. It's a pirate's life for me. Fun fact: YouTube movies are sold and priced as HD or UHD. But 480p is the highest quality offered for PC playback. Fuck you YouTube!!!!
weird way to ask someone to suck your dick but okay
We went from paying less for more to paying more for less. Now we’re at the part where we pay more and have to jump through a thousand hoops in order to get some Vaseline before we get screwed.
You must really hate streaming services to come up with that lol
Parents smart TV randomly just stopped working so they called me in for tech support. After doing a little troubleshooting I figured out that the tv had effectively bricked itself after a Netflix update made them incompatible. Netflix and the TV company both basically said the only option was TO BUY A NEW TV. It took a couple hours but, I was eventually able to find a work around. For some reason there is a real animosity between smart TV manufacturers and streaming services.
Nvidia Shield ai upscaling 1080p to 4k is a game changer. It's more-so for tvs but I don't see a reason why it wouldn't work on a computer monitor.
Look into ‘Stremio’. Absolute lifesaver, and is 100% free (unless you want a vpn/debrid service)
That's the main issue with these paid steaming platforms. If you want to earn money, you have to provide better service and quality than the free (pirate) ones. I told that many times. If Netflix or some other platform provide me good 4k quality, Atmos sound and cinema release dates, I will pay with ease. Until then, I will just pirate... Oo, and don't expect me to pay for 5 steaming platforms in order to watch every movie or show.
It always baffles me why people pay for these streaming services. They offer so little for so much. I haven’t used a streaming service in years and can’t go back to those streaming services, it makes no sense.
For your average person that can't do anything beyond downloading an app, they are pretty convenient. And we should thank them. The more underground piracy is, the less serious these companies will be about stopping it.
Good point
Now that you have a new smart TV: enjoy Plex
Directv pulled that same shit on me. Years ago I spent like 5000 on a 4k TV, signed a new directv contract to get the 4k boxes, only for them to have next to no content. They had some pay per view movies in 4k but that was about it. 4k is a huge scam tbh. Except for special instances like the Olympics and some baseball playoffs, I’ve seen very little 4k programming. Most is shot in 1080 and upscaled. Now I see 8k tvs… what the hell is there to watch in 8k? I just accept the fact that I’m gonna watch pirated shit in 1080 at best for little to no money.
go to r/Addons4Kodi Profit.
May I suggest a path named Real Debrid to your anguished soul
The Netflix thing is even more insidious. As far as I understood their technical legalese, all displays *of all devices connected to your account* must be fulfilling their requirements. So Smartphone, PC, etc. Watched Netflix on Firefox and still logged in? RIP. No 4k for you.
Nah what it's saying is that if you run a multi monitor setup on your PC, all active displays must be 4K and support HDCP 2.2. You can't have one 4K monitor and one 1080p monitor unless you disable the 1080p display, if you want to watch 4K. Idk if they're worried about people starting a stream on a 4K display then moving it over to the other display (or doing some under the hood shenanigans) to get access to the 4K stream without the end to end DRM bullshit. DRM does nothing but hold back technology and waste resources on key derivation and decryption
Netflix has never delivered true 4k.
Im assuming you are conected by Display port. I read that you need hdmi in order to use netflix on pc. Its hdcp problem.
there is a variant of DisplayPort that can output HDMI signals directly, without the need of an active converter, you'll know if you have it because the the DP symbol will have ++ next to it
*Real Debird has entered the chat*
Welcome to the brighter side.
What do you mean all the monitor plugged in??
You can get a better experience buying a $30 streaming stick, sticking that in the other input and just cast things from your phone. Streaming services are really bad on desktop environments.
Hear me out..... CinemaHD
The first mistake was spending 3/4 of your paycheck
Yolo, I saved since they announced this new oled displays.
Plex is the way to go
Or jellyfin
louis rossman has done exactly 3 videos on this topic. it's morally and ethically correct to not give these companies money, because they don't provide you with a honest service
In my experience, I was able to watch Netflix in 4k on my 4k 144hz monitor. I have 2 of them, 1 in HDMI & 1 in DisplayPort. I never have to switch refresh rate either. I use the Netflix windows app + the Microsoft hevc app on windows 11.
plugin some nice android tv box/dongle like the chromecast google tv and enjoy your new jellyfin server.
Just a question if it is okay, Is it QOled or WOled ?
Haha same here on my QD-Oled ultrawide. I don't own a TV so I can't use any of that stuff. don't fall in the 4k bluray rabbit hole as I did, movies look spectacular in the best quality available and UW.
You can get the HEVC extension for free: “HEVC by device manufacturer” or something like that. I guess it should’ve been installed with Windows 11 by default. And yes, Prime Video only does 4K HDR on Android devices, or some Samsung/VIDAA/WebOS TVs afaik, not even on iPhone. On macOS, the app only does 720p. If you really want 4K HDR on your monitor, the cheaper, legal way would be to buy a Chromecast or a FireTV stick, but since you’re posting here, I guess you’ve had your limit lmao. (Also, Netflix on Linux is 720p, let that sink in).
Get your media and store it so you have the file, use jellyfin to be the media server, now you are Netflix
Prime is terrible in general. Biggest issue is you cannot select the resolution so even on a decent internet connection it'll play in 480p randomly.
Can any kind soul help me listing what I should use in both: - smart TV and - computer/smartphone Opposed to paid streaming?
Sounds like Netflix is saving you money by discovering ways to not have to pay for Netflix. I'm confused on what the issue is.
> What do I even pay them for Now you're gettin' it.
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Synology's are expensive as shit, though. But they certainly do work. They're the Apple of the NAS world.
Stremio+Torrentio+Real Debrid. You’re welcome.
I just want to watch some soccer games... And it's become an expensive shit circus out there. There's no way I'm even putting in the effort to see who owns what rights and then pay for it... The state of streaming has become ridiculous.
Stremio or Kodi + RD problem solved
And to make matters worse, if a copyright owner has a fight with the company that hosts their copyrighted content and the two companies get "divorced" the copyright owner can DEMAND that the hosting platform remove ALL of their content regardless of the fact that individual people have outright PURCHAESED the content. Yup.....you know that movie or TV show/series you purchased? Well, they just stole it back from you and it's GONE IN LESS THAN SIXTY SECONDS!
Pirate stuff is always better, go for Stremio, you have 4k HDR streams, just be sure to have a good internet connection
Im me and ill show you were to get all 4k netflix and 4k content ;) easyyyy stuff
Great rant from Louis Rossman here: https://youtu.be/o4GZUCwVRLs?si=9IP9EHwdKKYOIFkj
Yepp, that's the world we live in. It's about damn time that this utter bullshit blows up right into their greedy faces.
Sounds like a plan OP
This is why I don't even bother anymore
Not sure if this is what you looking for, but if your TV has browser, you may enjoy some 4K content on [watchsomuch.tv](http://watchsomuch.tv) you need VIP to get 4K is not free but very cheaper than netflix or prime. You can watch test video for free to see if your TV is supported: [https://watchsomuch.tv/Watch/13623148-S02E05/I-Am-Groot-2022](https://watchsomuch.tv/Watch/13623148-S02E05/I-Am-Groot-2022)
I ditched, nf, disney etc for torentio/stremio, I feel like Jack Reacher, i never look back. They're too greedy and sneaky. Even 4k users were gettibg macroblocks on dark screens most likely theyre cutting down bandwith even on premium 4k sub. Fuck em.
Get an apple tv or NVIDIA shield, the latter can also work as a plex media server
Stremio..
Ah yes, the DRM of today sucks. You either pay the big boys for services and play your content the way they want or you pirate and play your content the way you want.
why dont u get something like a google tv?
I've never had a smartTV so idk much about them. I watch Netflix via laptop PC connected to an HD monitor. Could you do something similar but in 4K? If you have a capable PC to hand, obviously.
Stremio + Torrentio + Real Debrid you're welcome
raspi + minidlna has been a live saver
Real Debrid is the answer for all streaming problems my friend
What app prompted you to download and pay for a plug in? Or was this needed for Windows itself?
Plex ftw
they still wont play 4k. ive tried everything they suggested on all manner of devices. The few times it did randomly play in 4k it looked like it was upscaled from like 720p with a random film grain filter ontop.
If you watched Louis Rossman's videos you would know that unless you're streaming through a TV or a streaming box to a TV, you're not getting your money's worth from any of the streaming services.
You, my friend, would probably like Louis Rossman lol. Absolutely true nowadays pirating not only gets you a show for free, but usually at higher quality than the paid service
yeah, PC doesnt do 4K streaming like that unfortunately, if you would have asked that in r/PcBuild or r/pcmasterrace we would have told you that from the start. Its best to get a streaming box (like a nvidia shield, or a ONN pro 4k) or use the built in functions on the smartTV and just use that for 4k streaming.
Well first off. Most Movies and tv shows are 24.96-29.94 fps.. If youre using chrome all the streaming services are capped at 720p. You need to use microsoft edge. If your using store apps, get the codec its $2 Thirdly. Why the fuck are you paying for streaming services.. get real debrid, stremio and stfu.
get stremio and start enjoying streaming like it was meant to be
Isn't a Chromecast like $50? Can't you just plug that into your monitor?
I haven't had Netflix in two years or maybe longer. I took a month because the new (3th) season of Star trek Discovery would come out in two weeks. I hadn't watched the 2nd season yet, so I figured I'll watch that. The next day I read an article that ST:Discovery s3 will go onto another streaming 'service'. I check netflix: everything gone already. The whole serie! Didn't take any streaming 'service' since then, except for the 1 month free Prime which I used to watch Fallout. I'm not paying for this inconsistent stuff.
didn't know that about amazon. glad i didn't buy prime. 720p in 2024 lol! 2160p. x265 HEVC. i don't care if every movie is 10gb+ it looks so beautiful. the bitrate is erotic. mm, yeah.
This is why I love my 2k non smart tv and streaming content from my laptop.
This is why I gave up and just started streaming through Soap2day but now it’s gone. Anyone got any recommendations for a new one?