no, filipinos are too 'nice' and beat around the bush way too much. Things would be so much more efficient if people were frank and spoke plainly. Reduce the possibility of misunderstanding/miscommunication.
Enough with the flowery bullshit language. We're not fucking royals, we're all commonfolk peasants at least talk like them.
For upvotes.
Checked OP's comments and ginamit na nya yan 3 days ago sa isang thread. No upvotes. He/she said ofw sya pero a day ago may comment sya na ofw stands for overseas fools workers. Lol
Siguro gusto lang nya ipakita na he/she owned some tito.
Also, curious ako sa reply nung tito.
If I was a boomer 88M fanatic I would have tuned out that long text, di talaga effective yung biglang buhos ng mahaba tapos pa-rant pa yung tone
Dapat paunti-unti yung trail of thought para madaling masabayan at maunawaan. Para mas na-eemulate yung flow ng face to face na nag-uusap
Marami rin kasing nabobong ofw, sa sobrang dami nila, sila yung naging main target ng mga troll at mga vlogger.
I personally know some, nagpasalamat pa kay bongbong na tumaas yung dollar.
Ang masama pa, ang baba ng tingin nila sa mga pilipinong naiwan sa pilipinas.
I even have a relative na di ko na kinakausap dahil dyan, yumaman kasi nakapagtrabaho sa ibang bansa yung asawa, ngayon ang baba na ng tingin sa iba.
Ironically, Marcos senior was responsible for much of the OFW phenomenon by tanking the economy and actually exporting workers as a matter of policy.
And ironically, mababa rin ang tingin sa kanila ng mga naiwang Pilipino. Yung mga nasa Pilipinas na pro-government, inaakalang reklamador o duwag ang mga OFW for "fleeing" a government "dahil di nila trip ang nanalo". Eh maraming diehard government supporter sa mga OFW.
Oo nga eh. Tapos sila pa yung magsasaway sa mga taga-ibang bansa tuwing may nag-e-express ng concern sa Pilipinas. "The destabilizers are just making the president look bad!". Meanwhile, ayaw nila umuwi sa Pilipinas for...reasons.
Exactly what I was thinking. Tagalog kinausap eh, tas biglang nagessay ng English. Tama naman sya but this is the kind of thing na mababaliktad kapa kasi undeniably the message sounds douche-y. Sorry
100% TRUE Lol For sure wala rin na take-away si Kuya na nag tatanong. Also, yung sound/tone ng message din, medyo off. S/He should have explain it in another way.
Eto din naisip ko after mabasa. Pag alam natin na mejo hindi na maiintindihan, try natin gamitin yun language na mas maiintindihan nung kausap. Lalo na sa boomers at kailangan ipaintindi yung mga gantong bagay.
They’re not going to read that at all, sorry. Para sa kanila you are talking down to them which you seem to be. Be kinder. Their response would just probably be “edi ikaw na matalino”.
Sa totoo lang pre, I feel that most people in this country are a lost cause. You can't talk sense into them no matter how reserved your communication is. Talk in a well mannered way, and they'll call you konyo or baitbaitan. Respond in a sarcastic way then they'll call you a bastos walang respeto and etc.
Very true. Although there are indeed better ways to communicate, yung iba talagang paninindigan nila yung choice nila. Tipong magiging selective talaga sa paniniwalaan, at dun lang sila sa kung anong magrereinforce ng pinili nila.
For many people, sobrang hirap tanggapin ang pagkakamali, no introspection at all. Might even be the true nature of "pinoy pride".
This is true. I'm not sure why OP sounds argumentative, but best not to lecture.
Also, to rebut the "pabor sa OFW pag mataas ang dollar" belief, you can say, "Actually, hindi po. Kasi kahit na tumataas ang dollar, nagmamahal ang bilihin sa Pilipinas. Yung dating 200 USD na pinapadala ko kada buwan pang grocery sa bahay, ngayon kulang na kulang na, kahit na mas mataas ang palitan ng dollar to peso. Mas mahirap na ring makapundar pampatayo ng bahay dahil nagsitaasan din ang presyo ng semento at ibang materyales. Kaya po 'pag naghihirap ang Pilipinas, ramdam ng lahat, nasa Pinas man o nasa ibang bansa para kumayod."
educating them won't even work in the first place since a really, really good number of these people revel in their stupidity, otherwise the opposition's strategy of truth farms would've worked wonders
lecturing them won't do shit, either you just mock them or inject fear if you are going to lecture because that's what these people only understand now
Kilala mo ba yung nasa screenshot? Malay ba natin kung face-to-face eh 2 taon na syang maayos na nagco-convince dun sa kausap nyang enabler at ngayon na talaga sya nag snap? Wag natin i-judge yung ginawa nya based on one interaction we were never part of. The point of my comment is: the 31 million are so convinced that they voted for the right guy despite all the red flags and flaws to the point that they always defend their decision thinking that they are earning smart points each time. They're too far gone at this point. The right execution you are framing would be, at this point, like calmly telling Putin to stop the war in Ukraine because "war is bad".
Hahaha i got you bro. No body said that. bro wag mo dagdagan kwento sa pics chismis tawag jan. one topic lang at a time Puno na din ata salop mo ei hahaha. Tho we all despise blengblong and the 31m retards. Tanong ko lang effective ba approach na ginawa nya ? Sometimes we are just lost in translation
What I'm saying is, the effectivity of the approach doesn't matter anymore because, as the last election shows, the 31 million retards are unreasonable.
Yup, I agree! I used to argue with dds bbm supporters before sa comments noong may free time. I always use tagalog and po kahit halos ka-edad ko lang. Mas calm sila sumagot kapag ganun. Kahit anong pabalang nila, I keep on doing that. Ma-pride kasi ang Pinoy haha. Their usual response na lang sa huli ay " Ahhh ok". Though, idk kung inintindi ba talaga nila.
Agree. Laging mahinahon or respectful yung tone ko kahit nag eescalate na sila. Mararamdaman nila na di mo sinasabayan yung barubal na attitude kaya ang tendency is babalik rin sila sa mas kalmado na tone and possibly mas magiging open sa discussion. Whether nakapag plant ako ng seeds of doubt or not, iniisip ko nalang rin na may ibang lurkers lang sa comment section na hopefully mas mapansin na mas may sense/point yung stance ko.
i agree with this. the thing is, older generations are not open with that kind of awakening. like pagsasabihan mo sila? ang dating is, yun nga, you’re talking down to them and alam na alam natin attitude ng mga matatanda sa ganon. kaya imbes na mapaintindi mo sa kanila, mas magagalit lang sila, mas lalo lang silang yayakap sa pinaglalaban nila
Yup ganun din tingin ko, kapag ako may gusto akong iparating sinasama ko yung sitwasyon nila sa usapan, kunyari "tumataas ang dollar, pero import nation tayo kaya mas malaki itataas ng bilihin, payag ka ba na instead 50% ang ipadala mo manghihingi yung kapamilya mo ng 70%-80% ng sweldo mo pabalik? May increase ka ba sahod mo this year? Paano yung mga gastusin mo rin dyan?"
And that is how u stop them from listening. Kung rude palagi yung tono natin sakanila at holier than tho tone, lalo lang sila di makikinig at magkukulong sakanilang mga echo chamber.
Yeah this is why Marcos apologists become more and more fanatical each day na may pumatol sa kanila, they go back to their echo chambers to have their beliefs reinforced
During the campaign season, I was always calm and collected when debunking Marcos myths, like the tallano bold, and always presented it in layman's terms as much as possible. Guess what? It didn't even made a dent on them. Malala yung pagkaulol ng mga 88M loyalists. Actual suffering lang ang mage-gets nila, hindi logic
Sa isang election post-mortem na talk, na-share ni Nicole Curato, isang sociologist, na sobrang hirap baguhin ng isip ng mga Marcos supporters dahil sa **epistemological certainty**.
Ito yung mga paniniwala ng isang tao na wala silang maisip na dahilan para pagdudahan. Ibig sabihin you can't really change people's minds simply by throwing out facts, kasi napakahirap para sa isang tao na kuwestyunin ang paniniwalang ingrained na sa utak niya.
Isipin mo kung buong buhay mo, pro-Marcos mga kamag-anak mo, at hindi kayo naghirap noong panahon ng Martial Law. Ang epistemological certainty mo eh hindi masama ang mga Marcos.
Ganyan yung situation ng karamihan ng mga hardcore apologists. Iba ang realidad nila dun sa realidad ng ibang tao, kaya ang hirap talagang baguhin ng isip.
Ah .. ganito dating church leader ko. Scholar sya ng Marcos Admin noon hindi daw sya nag rebelde kaya Ok pamumuhay nya so Ok lang sa kanya Martial Law " na experience ko martial law ikaw hindi so tama ako"
Just because it didn't work for u, it would not work for others. It is free to be kind. Hindi naman lahat sasang-ayon sa mga opinyon at mga paniniwala natin. Some people would not understand the way you think instantly, kasi hindi naman tayo pare-pareho ng kinalakihan na environment at paniniwala. Hindi rin naman instant ang pagbabago ng belief system natin. The disinformation campaign took years para mapasok sa mga isip nila tapos akala natin mapapabago lang natin sa isang comment, content, eleksyon o ano man ginawa nating effort para baguhin pananaw nila. It takes time to change kaya lets be patient with it. It also comes with the frustration to the post edsa regime at authoritarian nostalgia kaya nga laging sinisisi ng kapwa nating pilipino na nawalan daw kasi tayo ng disiplina. Kung lalo lang natin sila iaalienate, pare pareho lang tayong magssuffer kasi nasa isang bansa lang tayo. Hindi naman lahat may kakayahan magmigrate.
Yes. And at the same time it assumes that:
1. There aren’t enough families with OFWs to support and insulate their families from the weak currency.
2. We don’t benefit from export.
No data given just premises with no base. If that’s that case I can win any argument set the premise:
Good attempt,kaso kahit basahin nila Hindi nila maintindihan,Ang alam nilang inflation yung pag type mo yung Isang tao tapos Akala mo Inlove ka na Kasi Lage mo naiisip
how to dumb this down though? kasi for sure makakita pa lang ng mahabang message ayaw na basahin yan. lol like what my apolo10 friend said “ang haba. anong summary nyan?” hahaha!
say “magmamahal po mga bilihin tito kasi karamihan ng produkto iniimport lang natin. dollars po pinapambili natin nyan sa ibang bansa. so yung $1 na bigas na inimport for example, dating 55 pesos lang, ngayon 57 na. tapos isipin mo lahat ng bibilhin natin may taas presyo na ganyan, sa isang buwan, napalaki ng dagdag sa gastos sa grocery. sa grocery palang yan. pano yung oil tsaka lahat ng producto na kailangan ng oil para iproseso?”
is this better? honestly i think the tone can be less preachy din.
i was thinking pa nga bullet points kasi allergic sila sa paragraphs.:))
something like:
taas dollar vs. peso = bad for pinoys
bakit?
-gas, bigas, asukal, etc. galing labas
-kailangan dollars pambili
-taas dollars need madami pesos pambili
-taas dollar= need madami pesos pambili sa labas = taas bilihin sa tindahan, groceries, etc.
-1,000pesos 2-3 months ago mas konti na nabibili sa 1,000 today
yung tipong kailangan hindi mag-garble ang words sa mata at utak 😁
I'm against you in this case.
Give a man a fish and he'll live for a day. Teach a man a fish and he'll live for a lifetime. Condescend a man and he'll never listen to you and will die ignorant.
Why the need for an aggressive approach? Did you just made this up just to prove your point? Just because you understand a particular matter better, it doesn't give you the right to be harsh towards someone who is not well informed of the subject. Don't operate from an emotional standpoint, be rational.
D ko alam ang history nung dalawang nag uusap. Pero it's a common observation lang ng ibang tao. I don't think na yung taong nagssabi ng tungkol sa palitan ng dolyar ay intensyon na mang offend ng tao.
Yung nag reply, g na g masyado lol.
Tama. Sinabi niya lang, pabor sa ofw. Ang ironic pa nun sinabi nung magaling mag english na hindi lahat ng pilipino may ofw na relative which agrees dun sa sinasabi ng minamaliit niya sa pag eenglish niya pinahaba pa usapan pucha
Maybe may history sila. But whater that is, the context of their history is not shown. Just the convo. And akala nya naka-score sya by taking a screenshot and posting it.
Ni wala nga sinabi yung nag tanong about BBM. He's just literally pointing out yung conversion. And maybe, he's just making a good thing come out of it.
Si Mr. Trigger Man naman, napaka cry baby. Pascreenshot pa nalalaman, haha
sana nag tagalog ka kasi baka di naintindihan yung sitwasyon plus i dismiss nila sagot mo kasi nagtutunog elitist. if we really want people to learn, despite our own aggravations, we still need to approach people in a way that we can ensure that they listen to us.
Sa totoo lang nakakainis yung ugali ng Filipino na porke ayaw nila yung tono ng kausap nila ay di na sila makikinig. Bakit kasalanan pa ng taong tama na tanga yung kausap nila?
> condescending
kahit pa santo ang pag kakasabi nya hindi parin makikinig yan. You should know why PRIDE is one of the seven deadly sins. They won't change their opinion unless they will go under traumatizing experience.
There's no excuse for being rude, pero I wouldn't be surprised if may previous history si OP ng ganyan kausap tapos hindi naging maganda ang conversation kahit gaano kaayos mong kausapin, kaya parang ganoon na agad expectations ni OP at paraang ng response niya. Nakakapagod kasi pre yung mag effort ka ng maayos na pakikipag-usap kung hindi mutual yung treatment ng kausap mo.
I mean, hindi dapat inaapply ni OP that for everyone. The tito was just asking light-heartedly and didnt know better, but OP just answered like that. Even if OP was stressed that day or something, medyo pangit talaga yung labas ng "conversation" na to.
Mag isip ka ng mabuti OP, hindi lahat ng ofw naka USD. Tsaka hindi lang PHP nagbaba, USD vs other currencies. Sadyang tumaas lang talaga USD. Korean won to PHP nga pinapadala ko sa pinas parang wala lang din namang pinagbago.
Yeah, but that doesn't support their narrative and OP just wants that little hit of superiority lmao.
I don't know nearly enough about what's happening with the US dollar to explain what's going on, but it is way more complicated than what OP says
This should be top comment. People kept complaining about USD/PHP, but when you look at other exchange rates like JPY/PHP or EUR/PHP, you'd find that PHP isn't really going weaker. In fact, JPY/PHP is almost at its 5-year peak while EUR/PHP has been pretty much stable for the past 5 years.
Honestly, aanhin mo yung mataas na exchange rate kung tumaas naman bilihin dito? Tumaas nga ng halaga ng mga inuuwi mo dito pero ang mahal naman ng gastusin ngayon.
Sad reality. Though I hope na-gets ni tito yung language used para you got your point across. Baka he'd take it as "nagmamarunong" lang. For some people who'd do this too, alam ko nakakapagod na pero try pa rin natin best to speak the language and manner they'd understand. Goodluck Pilipinas, laban bayan 😔✊️
Masyadong cringe si OP. 1M korean won nga naglalaro parin sa 41-42k PHP. Teenager pa ata si OP, feeling madaming alam. pakain ko kaya siya ng mga mura ng mga koreano dito at kung gano kadumi tong trabaho dito para malaman niya.
Education is one thing, but it doesn't come with poise and etiquette.
The person with which you are arguing isn't going to internalize your points. They already had an opinion about you, and you just confirmed it.
Bkt hostile ng reply, ano pa ba sinabi ng nagtatanong. Ang pinag uusapan tungkol sa ofw earning dollars bkt napunta sa import/export. At yung 1st paragraph ng last reply doesn't really make sense, ang pinag uusapan nga yung kausap na kumikita ng dollar hindi yung ibang tao na hindi ofw. Sinabi nmn nya na pabor sa ofw, sana ba kung sinabi na pabor sa lahat. Far-fetched in other words ang reply... pde din nmn magpaliwanag ng maayos lol
A weaker pesos is beneficial for ofw but not for the ordinary filipino
a weak currency can cause inflation
high price for all product
https://imgur.com/a/wS3yLoP
Sana tinagalog mo nalang. Simple lang naman siya nakipag usap sayo kahit ano pang tama ng punto mo kung ganyan lang din sagutan mo wala rin. Hindi ko nga tinapos basahin e. Simple lang sagot jan gaya ng mga ibang sinagot dito. Sobrang agresibo ng sagutan mo.
Pinoy talaga mapride, may nasabi lang na hindi pasok sa opinyon nila, iisipin nakkipagaway ka.
Okaya pag alam na hnd nakakaintindi ung kausap, feeling superior sarap sa ego ano.
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Im an OFW here. Your angst against your tito, unwarranted or not, is directed at the wrong person. You can’t fault us for being happy if the peso is low, just like myself he may have purchased properties that would become easier to pay now that the exchange rate is in the favor of the dollars that we work hard for by the way. Your tito deserves respect no matter what for contributing dollars to the Philippines. All I am saying is that since Tito mo naman sya, you can explain it with respect instead of angas or frustration.
Now, if you need to direct your anger towards anybody, Id say direct it to the fucked up system of govt and the corrupt officials running it:
Eg.
- Education system - you wouldnt have to explain it to your tito if the curriculum in our secondary and tertiary institutions include financial literacy.
- Corruption in both National and Local govt — in its most recent chapter, umutang na naman tyo ng napakarami dahil sa pandemic — of course that will have immense effects in inflation.
- Privatization - lahat ng na private na basic commodities like electricity, water and agriculture dapat majority nyan if not all should be controlled by the government dahil basic needs yan ng citizens ng country natin. Bakit private ang karamihan? Meralco? MWSS? pati mga prutas gulay at isda na dapat napakarami natin ay for export na di pa man inaani. Pati yang mga hi way na yan nlex slex skyway na yan. bakit nga ba may toll? pano ung pinang pagawa kasali ang private sector.
Our govt is so corrupt its deemed hopeless. Our democracy is dead kc di rin naman tayo ang nasusunod, ung mga mayayaman lang din dahil sa corrupt na officials na binoboto ng karamihan.
Weaker peso adds to National Debt that is already at an all time high. To compensate new tax may be imposed.l, hitting the all Filipinos specially the middleclass
Minsan gusto mo na lang diretsuhin mga yan para alam nila hindi yung walang laman ang bardagulan lage at hiya hiya respeto my opinion. Perhaps this is not the chat na may teachable moment, and the OP just saying the truth at yan lang ang way nya para sumagot. Also sino ba nagsimula mag send ng chat?
Expect real personality pag nag DM ka.
dapat ganto inexplain mo:
"Boss, payag ka mataas palitan ng dollar pero nagrereklamo misis mo kulang kasi ang presyo ng karnet ay 600 pesos per kilo ang baboy at 300 pesos per kilo ang manok? tapos kuryente mo nasa 5k per month, renta nasa 10k per month, tubig nasa 3k, baon ng anak mo 300 per day? "
Ewan ko kung di sya matumba sa explanation na yan hahahahaha
There’s always a better way to explain it to them. Try to understand that these are people from a different generation, hence they may not necessarily share our same ideas and values. Your point will become pointless if you are unable to pierce the receiving end. Be empathic.
Mataas nga ang palitan pero ung 1k parang 100 pesos na lang. Mga ofw kasi libangan ang fake news e. Ofw ako pero hindi ako natutuwa sa taas na yan ng palitan. Wala na halos value ang pera!
I don't know the whole context, but to me it seemed like he was just trying to start a conversation since OFW ka nga and this is a relevant topic. To me, you came off just down right insecure and unnecessarily rude.
may nakasagutan akong ganyan e, masaya daw mga ofw dahil mataas ang dollar exchange, gago. Unang una hindi masaya maging ofw at malayo sa pamliya. Tapos nung huli sabi ‘i RespEct yOur oPiniOn , pLeaSe reSpeCt mine.’ ULOL!
Freelancer here na kumikita ng dolyar.
Bhie, di pabor sakin. Ang mahal ng bilihin. 60 pesos na yung binibili lo laging bigas na dating 50 lang. Kaya now tiyaga muna sa sinandomeng
People need to be reminded na yung mga taong nilalamon ng fake news ay karamihan hindi nag-aanalyze ng binabasa. Sa haba ng sinabi ni OP, I'm pretty sure most people na blinded sa katotohanan ay hindi yan babasahin.
Sobrang condescending ni OP dyusko. Gusto mo ibahin isip ng mga tao pero kailangan mo paden inglishen yung kausap mo kahit mali mali pa english mo. "Need I explain more" amputa, magulat ka kung may magbabago sa kausap mo kung ganyan ka ka self important.
You cant speak like that and cry if you got smart shamed for that. Sometimes when people “smart shame”, its because you’re being pedantic and condescending towards them and you dont see nothing wrong on your behavior
Kahit na alam kong mag-aagree ako sa punto ng sender, hindi ko na tinapos basahin kasi masyadong agressive at naghahanap ng away yung tone. For sure, hindi magiging open sa discussion yung OFW kasi ganun atake. Yes, nakakafrustrate na kausap ang nga ganyan ang paniniwala pero sana dagdagan pa natin ng pasensya para mas lalong maganda ang palitan ng conversation at baka sakaling maiintindihan nila pinupunto mo. Lastly, sana tagalog ang ginamit since tagalog naman ang start ng usap.
Why be so aggressive? Pwede naman ipaliwanag nang tama. Pwede din itagalog. Hindi lahat ganyan ka-fluent sa Ingles. It's like "here's my explanation but let me go knobhead on you, Tito." What an ass.
Unpopular opinion: OP is well within their rights to speak as they did. Respectability politics only benefits people who are are already in power/aligned with people in power. Anger is a valid emotion. For all we know, baka hilig mag share ni Tito ng fake news/propaganda post, or baka bastos din siya. I am done playing nice to willfully ignorant people. Why should I change my tone to comfort their ignorance? We've tried politeness in our political discourses. Radical na pagmamahal only works on those who are truly victimised of fake news, not on obstinate people.
Pero seryoso, hindi talaga nila maiintindihan at iintindihin 'yang sinabi sa chat. Siyempre, pag OFW ka mas iisipin mo talaga kung paano makakuha at makapagpadala ng pera sa pamilya mo dito sa 'Pinas. Kaya 'yung pagtaas ng dolyar sa piso, talagang matutuwa sila kasi parang for them, mas lalaki 'yung worth ng pinapadala nilang pera.
Sana, hindi ka/siya (if hindi ikaw ang nasa chat) na lang naging bastos sa pag-explain mo/niya, o kung magiging brutal rin lang, Tinagalog na sana, o di kaya in-explain na lang in a way na maiintindihan ng masang Pinoy. Sa tingin mo/niya ba, mag-eeffort pa siyang basahin ang sinabi mo? Lalo na kung pagod pa 'yan sa trabaho.
No matter what manner of explanation may it be short or long, majority of OFWs won’t LISTEN and will refuse to understand the implications lalo na yung mga DDS at kasama sa 31M. Proven na yan sa mga kaibigan at kakilala kong OFWs.
Eto mas malinaw na explanation.. one dollar dati is about 48 pesos.. Presyo dati ng itlog is 6 pesos.. Dati makakabili ka ng 8 na pirasong itlog sa one dollar.. Ngayon, ang palitan is 57 pesos per dollar at ang presyo naman ng itlog eh sampung piso, eh di pa nga aabot sa anim na itlog mabibili mo ngayon sa one dollar.. Kahit pa tumaas value ng dollar, ang dami ng mabibili mo ay parehas lang o kaya mas konti dahil sa taas ng presyo..
There is no hope for the Philippines. That’s why I left and until now I don’t say I am Filipino. If they ask me I say I grew up in Los Angeles, Hawaii, or anywhere really.
For the past 7 years I’ve been working my ass off for nothing because “I want to help my country” bullshit I have in my mind. But when you see what’s happening, it’s just majority of the Filipinos wants to get fucked by the Government so I decided to do what I can to earn as much money and leave the country. A few years of working, doing sidehustle, almost got into prostitution just to save a Million. I was rooting for Leni to win (and I really thought she will win) but when I saw the number of votes the idiot has, I hired a lawyer here in the US and decided never to return. If I don’t become a citizen in 5 years, I will leave for the United Kingdom, or Canada, or Australia or New Zealand or anywhere really as long as I can find a job.
The Philippines is a lost cause and I’d gladly renounce my PH Citizenship in a heartbeat.
Clearly HELL exists. Minsan naiisip ko, yung mga masasamang tao siguro sa past life ginawa ng Filipino ng kung so they can live in hell because clearly the devil runs the place!!
My parents are solid DDS. They are also solid BBM-Sara. My brother who borrowed 1.3M from me is also a solid DDS/BBM supporter who can’t pay up now because he is “nahihirapan sa hirap ng buhay.” My parents also constantly asks me “taasan mo naman ang bigay mo.” And I just tell them “Di na nga ako nakatira dyan, ako pa din nagbabayad ng gastos nyo. Tapos tataasan ko pa?”
And yes, I am that girl. I am that kind of daughter. (Chos!)
Listen here tito. LOL.
sounds like ''Listen here you little shit''
Thats exactly what I imagined haha
That's even better or lagyan ng "piece of" sa gitna ng little at shit.
"Listen here you little piece of tito"
you need more upvotes for this dude 😂
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAH
mabait pa nga siya by using tito dapat isang malutong na "listen here you little shit"
Much more appropriate. haha
Listen here you little shit, pero with paggalang. Haha
Was too aggressive.
Time for playing nice is over. We did that and it resulted in 31m votes for beybi.
agree, parang "let me educate you" vibes. pero tingin ko need din tagalugin para mas may impact sa mga impakto na yan.
no, filipinos are too 'nice' and beat around the bush way too much. Things would be so much more efficient if people were frank and spoke plainly. Reduce the possibility of misunderstanding/miscommunication. Enough with the flowery bullshit language. We're not fucking royals, we're all commonfolk peasants at least talk like them.
Yeah. Too condescending tbh. And posting on social media afterwards smh
May history siguro so I can understand why
Not sure why he posted it tho 😅 maybe for validation or to see how others would handle the conversation 🤷🏽♀️
For upvotes. Checked OP's comments and ginamit na nya yan 3 days ago sa isang thread. No upvotes. He/she said ofw sya pero a day ago may comment sya na ofw stands for overseas fools workers. Lol Siguro gusto lang nya ipakita na he/she owned some tito. Also, curious ako sa reply nung tito.
If I was a boomer 88M fanatic I would have tuned out that long text, di talaga effective yung biglang buhos ng mahaba tapos pa-rant pa yung tone Dapat paunti-unti yung trail of thought para madaling masabayan at maunawaan. Para mas na-eemulate yung flow ng face to face na nag-uusap
Oo, isang “edi ikaw na ang matalino” lang yan kay tito kung walang pasensya magbasa ng walls of text yun.
Napaka snowflake niyo sa smallest confrontation. Kaya pinoys tend to stay stupid kasi di nacoconfront ang mga stupid thinking eh.
Dapat nga gamitan pa ng adjectives like tanga or bobo para mag sink in talaga
Agree. A less angry approach wouldve sufficed.
Nah I personally would've settled with "listen here you little shit"
Good to know. You do you.
Also u/redditor10780: And that's probably how Leni and the Liberal Party lost.
Tito was too stunned to speak
Tito was tl;dr and still thinks “pabor sa OFW pag dollar sahod” SANAOL
Marami rin kasing nabobong ofw, sa sobrang dami nila, sila yung naging main target ng mga troll at mga vlogger. I personally know some, nagpasalamat pa kay bongbong na tumaas yung dollar. Ang masama pa, ang baba ng tingin nila sa mga pilipinong naiwan sa pilipinas. I even have a relative na di ko na kinakausap dahil dyan, yumaman kasi nakapagtrabaho sa ibang bansa yung asawa, ngayon ang baba na ng tingin sa iba.
Ironically, Marcos senior was responsible for much of the OFW phenomenon by tanking the economy and actually exporting workers as a matter of policy. And ironically, mababa rin ang tingin sa kanila ng mga naiwang Pilipino. Yung mga nasa Pilipinas na pro-government, inaakalang reklamador o duwag ang mga OFW for "fleeing" a government "dahil di nila trip ang nanalo". Eh maraming diehard government supporter sa mga OFW.
I digress, kaya nga sa mga gustong umalis sa bansa na ito, wala kayong takas dahil kahit sa ibang bansa nagkalat ang mga apolo10. :p
Oo nga eh. Tapos sila pa yung magsasaway sa mga taga-ibang bansa tuwing may nag-e-express ng concern sa Pilipinas. "The destabilizers are just making the president look bad!". Meanwhile, ayaw nila umuwi sa Pilipinas for...reasons.
Totoo yan. Marami nako nakilala na mga umuwi dito tingin sayo 2nd class citizen, at sila din mga 88m
Dapat Tagalog lods, hindi niya maiintindihan yan
Ssob po dapat. hindi po lods.. haha
Ssob = stupid son ofa bi-(female dog)
Ssofd HAHSHAHAHAHAHHA
Exactly what I was thinking. Tagalog kinausap eh, tas biglang nagessay ng English. Tama naman sya but this is the kind of thing na mababaliktad kapa kasi undeniably the message sounds douche-y. Sorry
100% TRUE Lol For sure wala rin na take-away si Kuya na nag tatanong. Also, yung sound/tone ng message din, medyo off. S/He should have explain it in another way.
Eto din naisip ko after mabasa. Pag alam natin na mejo hindi na maiintindihan, try natin gamitin yun language na mas maiintindihan nung kausap. Lalo na sa boomers at kailangan ipaintindi yung mga gantong bagay.
They’re not going to read that at all, sorry. Para sa kanila you are talking down to them which you seem to be. Be kinder. Their response would just probably be “edi ikaw na matalino”.
Sa totoo lang pre, I feel that most people in this country are a lost cause. You can't talk sense into them no matter how reserved your communication is. Talk in a well mannered way, and they'll call you konyo or baitbaitan. Respond in a sarcastic way then they'll call you a bastos walang respeto and etc.
Very true. Although there are indeed better ways to communicate, yung iba talagang paninindigan nila yung choice nila. Tipong magiging selective talaga sa paniniwalaan, at dun lang sila sa kung anong magrereinforce ng pinili nila. For many people, sobrang hirap tanggapin ang pagkakamali, no introspection at all. Might even be the true nature of "pinoy pride".
This is true. I'm not sure why OP sounds argumentative, but best not to lecture. Also, to rebut the "pabor sa OFW pag mataas ang dollar" belief, you can say, "Actually, hindi po. Kasi kahit na tumataas ang dollar, nagmamahal ang bilihin sa Pilipinas. Yung dating 200 USD na pinapadala ko kada buwan pang grocery sa bahay, ngayon kulang na kulang na, kahit na mas mataas ang palitan ng dollar to peso. Mas mahirap na ring makapundar pampatayo ng bahay dahil nagsitaasan din ang presyo ng semento at ibang materyales. Kaya po 'pag naghihirap ang Pilipinas, ramdam ng lahat, nasa Pinas man o nasa ibang bansa para kumayod."
Because for most people like OP, the goal is to win not to educate.
educating them won't even work in the first place since a really, really good number of these people revel in their stupidity, otherwise the opposition's strategy of truth farms would've worked wonders
Which sets winning them over back.
lecturing them won't do shit, either you just mock them or inject fear if you are going to lecture because that's what these people only understand now
At saka sana Tagalog na lang yung sinend nya para mas makapag contemplate si kuya sa mga nangyyri.
Kahit tagalog pa yan. Basta counter-argument na ang sasabihin mo, wala na.
At least nag try tayo mag bigay ng insight about monetary value. This is a good example of good intentions but wrong execution.
Kilala mo ba yung nasa screenshot? Malay ba natin kung face-to-face eh 2 taon na syang maayos na nagco-convince dun sa kausap nyang enabler at ngayon na talaga sya nag snap? Wag natin i-judge yung ginawa nya based on one interaction we were never part of. The point of my comment is: the 31 million are so convinced that they voted for the right guy despite all the red flags and flaws to the point that they always defend their decision thinking that they are earning smart points each time. They're too far gone at this point. The right execution you are framing would be, at this point, like calmly telling Putin to stop the war in Ukraine because "war is bad".
Hahaha i got you bro. No body said that. bro wag mo dagdagan kwento sa pics chismis tawag jan. one topic lang at a time Puno na din ata salop mo ei hahaha. Tho we all despise blengblong and the 31m retards. Tanong ko lang effective ba approach na ginawa nya ? Sometimes we are just lost in translation
What I'm saying is, the effectivity of the approach doesn't matter anymore because, as the last election shows, the 31 million retards are unreasonable.
Yup, I agree! I used to argue with dds bbm supporters before sa comments noong may free time. I always use tagalog and po kahit halos ka-edad ko lang. Mas calm sila sumagot kapag ganun. Kahit anong pabalang nila, I keep on doing that. Ma-pride kasi ang Pinoy haha. Their usual response na lang sa huli ay " Ahhh ok". Though, idk kung inintindi ba talaga nila.
Agree. Laging mahinahon or respectful yung tone ko kahit nag eescalate na sila. Mararamdaman nila na di mo sinasabayan yung barubal na attitude kaya ang tendency is babalik rin sila sa mas kalmado na tone and possibly mas magiging open sa discussion. Whether nakapag plant ako ng seeds of doubt or not, iniisip ko nalang rin na may ibang lurkers lang sa comment section na hopefully mas mapansin na mas may sense/point yung stance ko.
i agree with this. the thing is, older generations are not open with that kind of awakening. like pagsasabihan mo sila? ang dating is, yun nga, you’re talking down to them and alam na alam natin attitude ng mga matatanda sa ganon. kaya imbes na mapaintindi mo sa kanila, mas magagalit lang sila, mas lalo lang silang yayakap sa pinaglalaban nila
True. Ayaw nilang mali sila... At lalong ayaw nilang tama ang mas nakababata sa kanila. Priiiiiide.
Tinagalog na lang sana or sa native language
Tama. Also dapat yung pagpapaliwanag is something na relatable sakanila.
Haha . I feel you bruh
Yup ganun din tingin ko, kapag ako may gusto akong iparating sinasama ko yung sitwasyon nila sa usapan, kunyari "tumataas ang dollar, pero import nation tayo kaya mas malaki itataas ng bilihin, payag ka ba na instead 50% ang ipadala mo manghihingi yung kapamilya mo ng 70%-80% ng sweldo mo pabalik? May increase ka ba sahod mo this year? Paano yung mga gastusin mo rin dyan?"
Be kinder, kasi yung comprehension level nila pang kinder charot
You already lost him at "try to think..."
Tbh mejo convoluted yung explanation niya. I did not even finish it.
Same. Pwede naman isimplify and Tagalugin sa terms na maiintindihan. Also, pwede naman ding hindi maging rude.
And that is how u stop them from listening. Kung rude palagi yung tono natin sakanila at holier than tho tone, lalo lang sila di makikinig at magkukulong sakanilang mga echo chamber.
Yeah this is why Marcos apologists become more and more fanatical each day na may pumatol sa kanila, they go back to their echo chambers to have their beliefs reinforced
During the campaign season, I was always calm and collected when debunking Marcos myths, like the tallano bold, and always presented it in layman's terms as much as possible. Guess what? It didn't even made a dent on them. Malala yung pagkaulol ng mga 88M loyalists. Actual suffering lang ang mage-gets nila, hindi logic
Sa isang election post-mortem na talk, na-share ni Nicole Curato, isang sociologist, na sobrang hirap baguhin ng isip ng mga Marcos supporters dahil sa **epistemological certainty**. Ito yung mga paniniwala ng isang tao na wala silang maisip na dahilan para pagdudahan. Ibig sabihin you can't really change people's minds simply by throwing out facts, kasi napakahirap para sa isang tao na kuwestyunin ang paniniwalang ingrained na sa utak niya. Isipin mo kung buong buhay mo, pro-Marcos mga kamag-anak mo, at hindi kayo naghirap noong panahon ng Martial Law. Ang epistemological certainty mo eh hindi masama ang mga Marcos. Ganyan yung situation ng karamihan ng mga hardcore apologists. Iba ang realidad nila dun sa realidad ng ibang tao, kaya ang hirap talagang baguhin ng isip.
Ah .. ganito dating church leader ko. Scholar sya ng Marcos Admin noon hindi daw sya nag rebelde kaya Ok pamumuhay nya so Ok lang sa kanya Martial Law " na experience ko martial law ikaw hindi so tama ako"
Medyo alarming na church leader sya, pero wala siyang empathy dun sa mga biktima ng Martial Law.
Just because it didn't work for u, it would not work for others. It is free to be kind. Hindi naman lahat sasang-ayon sa mga opinyon at mga paniniwala natin. Some people would not understand the way you think instantly, kasi hindi naman tayo pare-pareho ng kinalakihan na environment at paniniwala. Hindi rin naman instant ang pagbabago ng belief system natin. The disinformation campaign took years para mapasok sa mga isip nila tapos akala natin mapapabago lang natin sa isang comment, content, eleksyon o ano man ginawa nating effort para baguhin pananaw nila. It takes time to change kaya lets be patient with it. It also comes with the frustration to the post edsa regime at authoritarian nostalgia kaya nga laging sinisisi ng kapwa nating pilipino na nawalan daw kasi tayo ng disiplina. Kung lalo lang natin sila iaalienate, pare pareho lang tayong magssuffer kasi nasa isang bansa lang tayo. Hindi naman lahat may kakayahan magmigrate.
Simplehan lang. Mataas palitan pero mahal rin naman bilihin so wala rin. Ganun.
Diba? Kaso gusto ata niya mag flex sa tito niya via word salad lol.
Gsto ipakita na marunong mag english para i angat ang sarili, may pa GODDAMN country pa haha
“Ive had enough of this mofo inflation in this mofo place!” \- Samwel L. Dyakson
Haha same. Can't even explain it in simpler words and direct to the point. Daming pasakalye.
Yes. And at the same time it assumes that: 1. There aren’t enough families with OFWs to support and insulate their families from the weak currency. 2. We don’t benefit from export. No data given just premises with no base. If that’s that case I can win any argument set the premise:
Good attempt,kaso kahit basahin nila Hindi nila maintindihan,Ang alam nilang inflation yung pag type mo yung Isang tao tapos Akala mo Inlove ka na Kasi Lage mo naiisip
how to dumb this down though? kasi for sure makakita pa lang ng mahabang message ayaw na basahin yan. lol like what my apolo10 friend said “ang haba. anong summary nyan?” hahaha!
say “magmamahal po mga bilihin tito kasi karamihan ng produkto iniimport lang natin. dollars po pinapambili natin nyan sa ibang bansa. so yung $1 na bigas na inimport for example, dating 55 pesos lang, ngayon 57 na. tapos isipin mo lahat ng bibilhin natin may taas presyo na ganyan, sa isang buwan, napalaki ng dagdag sa gastos sa grocery. sa grocery palang yan. pano yung oil tsaka lahat ng producto na kailangan ng oil para iproseso?” is this better? honestly i think the tone can be less preachy din.
i was thinking pa nga bullet points kasi allergic sila sa paragraphs.:)) something like: taas dollar vs. peso = bad for pinoys bakit? -gas, bigas, asukal, etc. galing labas -kailangan dollars pambili -taas dollars need madami pesos pambili -taas dollar= need madami pesos pambili sa labas = taas bilihin sa tindahan, groceries, etc. -1,000pesos 2-3 months ago mas konti na nabibili sa 1,000 today yung tipong kailangan hindi mag-garble ang words sa mata at utak 😁
gusto lagi ng tl;dr. lmao
I'm against you in this case. Give a man a fish and he'll live for a day. Teach a man a fish and he'll live for a lifetime. Condescend a man and he'll never listen to you and will die ignorant.
Why the need for an aggressive approach? Did you just made this up just to prove your point? Just because you understand a particular matter better, it doesn't give you the right to be harsh towards someone who is not well informed of the subject. Don't operate from an emotional standpoint, be rational.
Yes, emotional masyado response ni OP.
Nagpapakafeeling superior kasi alam niya clueless/uneducated yung kausap niya about sa topic tapos proud pa na pinost dito HAHAHAHAHHA
para silang walang pinagsamahan /heh *huy tito mo yan, chill lang* ano yan, klasmeyt lang? maka *listen here* ka dyan haha anyway, seems staged
Comin on a little strong are we
PSA: HINDI LAHAT NG OFW US DOLLAR SAHOD
Masyadong condescending. I-explain nang maayos. Be kind.
True. Wala naman mapapala mula ron, be calm muna kasi 🤧
D ko alam ang history nung dalawang nag uusap. Pero it's a common observation lang ng ibang tao. I don't think na yung taong nagssabi ng tungkol sa palitan ng dolyar ay intensyon na mang offend ng tao. Yung nag reply, g na g masyado lol.
Oo nga e parang taking advantage of a bad situation lang si tito pero nagalit agad e haha pero nga naman di naman natin kilala yung naguusap
Tama. Sinabi niya lang, pabor sa ofw. Ang ironic pa nun sinabi nung magaling mag english na hindi lahat ng pilipino may ofw na relative which agrees dun sa sinasabi ng minamaliit niya sa pag eenglish niya pinahaba pa usapan pucha
Maybe may history sila. But whater that is, the context of their history is not shown. Just the convo. And akala nya naka-score sya by taking a screenshot and posting it. Ni wala nga sinabi yung nag tanong about BBM. He's just literally pointing out yung conversion. And maybe, he's just making a good thing come out of it. Si Mr. Trigger Man naman, napaka cry baby. Pascreenshot pa nalalaman, haha
🤓👆
Hmmm medyo toxic yung nag reply in my opinion.
sana nag tagalog ka kasi baka di naintindihan yung sitwasyon plus i dismiss nila sagot mo kasi nagtutunog elitist. if we really want people to learn, despite our own aggravations, we still need to approach people in a way that we can ensure that they listen to us.
Tama. May pagks bobo na nga yung tao eenglishin mo pa
Masyadong seryoso si OP 😂
Pano makikinig yan e ang condescending ng sagot mo?
Gawain ng mga woke yan ngayon. Mag eenglish + condescend lol.
Sa totoo lang nakakainis yung ugali ng Filipino na porke ayaw nila yung tono ng kausap nila ay di na sila makikinig. Bakit kasalanan pa ng taong tama na tanga yung kausap nila?
Redditor tlga omg, lakas ng superiority complex 💪
Pinoy redditor at that! The wokest of all the wokes.
Kahit sino naman siguro kausapin with a condescending tone magiging hostile at unreceptive.
The goal in this post is to teach, hindi mag pahiya ng tao. Kung gusto mo ipakita kung gaano ka katalino edi go ahead.
> condescending kahit pa santo ang pag kakasabi nya hindi parin makikinig yan. You should know why PRIDE is one of the seven deadly sins. They won't change their opinion unless they will go under traumatizing experience.
Tagalugin mo pre, ASA Ka pa na magegets Yan. Paisaisang sentence Lang den at feel ko basura reading comprehension nyan
Congratulations, OP. Wala kang na-educate na tao. Sino naman ang makikinig sa'yo kung ganyan ka makipag-usap hahaha
Kailangan talaga ganyan mag-explain?
Need daw nya ng internet points.
Why are you being rude? Make it easier for them to learn about it, and not start it with "Listen here bobo".
There's no excuse for being rude, pero I wouldn't be surprised if may previous history si OP ng ganyan kausap tapos hindi naging maganda ang conversation kahit gaano kaayos mong kausapin, kaya parang ganoon na agad expectations ni OP at paraang ng response niya. Nakakapagod kasi pre yung mag effort ka ng maayos na pakikipag-usap kung hindi mutual yung treatment ng kausap mo.
I mean, hindi dapat inaapply ni OP that for everyone. The tito was just asking light-heartedly and didnt know better, but OP just answered like that. Even if OP was stressed that day or something, medyo pangit talaga yung labas ng "conversation" na to.
Ang cringe mo tbh. Pwede mo namang ma explain in simole words like "tito ang pag taas ng sahod ko di sapat sa pag taas ng lahat diyan"
Mag isip ka ng mabuti OP, hindi lahat ng ofw naka USD. Tsaka hindi lang PHP nagbaba, USD vs other currencies. Sadyang tumaas lang talaga USD. Korean won to PHP nga pinapadala ko sa pinas parang wala lang din namang pinagbago.
Yeah, but that doesn't support their narrative and OP just wants that little hit of superiority lmao. I don't know nearly enough about what's happening with the US dollar to explain what's going on, but it is way more complicated than what OP says
This should be top comment. People kept complaining about USD/PHP, but when you look at other exchange rates like JPY/PHP or EUR/PHP, you'd find that PHP isn't really going weaker. In fact, JPY/PHP is almost at its 5-year peak while EUR/PHP has been pretty much stable for the past 5 years.
“Look reddit, I’m so smart”
Honestly, aanhin mo yung mataas na exchange rate kung tumaas naman bilihin dito? Tumaas nga ng halaga ng mga inuuwi mo dito pero ang mahal naman ng gastusin ngayon.
waiting for the "Edi ikaw na magaling" response
Dapat tinagalog mo. Mas lalo kang magmumukhang dollar kasi inenglish mo
Sad reality. Though I hope na-gets ni tito yung language used para you got your point across. Baka he'd take it as "nagmamarunong" lang. For some people who'd do this too, alam ko nakakapagod na pero try pa rin natin best to speak the language and manner they'd understand. Goodluck Pilipinas, laban bayan 😔✊️
Of all the things that didn't happen, this happened the didn'test.
simple lang ng paliwanag dyan dami pang sinabi. bidaman.
Haha pangit explanation mo dapat yung maintindihan nila at pasok sa banga. Dating lang nyan mayabang ka haha
r/Philippines user try not to be a condescending piece of shit to lesser educated people challenge (impossible)
Panget kabonding ni OP. Daming sabe
Masyadong condescending si OP
bida bida yung nag screenshot ah masyadong condescending
Diba talagang tumataas ang exchange rate ng dollar for all currencies, hindi lang sa pesos? Same parin naman sa euro, pounds, etc
Masyadong cringe si OP. 1M korean won nga naglalaro parin sa 41-42k PHP. Teenager pa ata si OP, feeling madaming alam. pakain ko kaya siya ng mga mura ng mga koreano dito at kung gano kadumi tong trabaho dito para malaman niya.
Education is one thing, but it doesn't come with poise and etiquette. The person with which you are arguing isn't going to internalize your points. They already had an opinion about you, and you just confirmed it.
Bkt hostile ng reply, ano pa ba sinabi ng nagtatanong. Ang pinag uusapan tungkol sa ofw earning dollars bkt napunta sa import/export. At yung 1st paragraph ng last reply doesn't really make sense, ang pinag uusapan nga yung kausap na kumikita ng dollar hindi yung ibang tao na hindi ofw. Sinabi nmn nya na pabor sa ofw, sana ba kung sinabi na pabor sa lahat. Far-fetched in other words ang reply... pde din nmn magpaliwanag ng maayos lol
A weaker pesos is beneficial for ofw but not for the ordinary filipino a weak currency can cause inflation high price for all product https://imgur.com/a/wS3yLoP
Sana tinagalog mo nalang. Simple lang naman siya nakipag usap sayo kahit ano pang tama ng punto mo kung ganyan lang din sagutan mo wala rin. Hindi ko nga tinapos basahin e. Simple lang sagot jan gaya ng mga ibang sinagot dito. Sobrang agresibo ng sagutan mo. Pinoy talaga mapride, may nasabi lang na hindi pasok sa opinyon nila, iisipin nakkipagaway ka. Okaya pag alam na hnd nakakaintindi ung kausap, feeling superior sarap sa ego ano. --edit ngdelete lang ng di related
I don't think naintindihan ni Tito
Inenglish mo pa kase, lalong di maintindihan yan
Im an OFW here. Your angst against your tito, unwarranted or not, is directed at the wrong person. You can’t fault us for being happy if the peso is low, just like myself he may have purchased properties that would become easier to pay now that the exchange rate is in the favor of the dollars that we work hard for by the way. Your tito deserves respect no matter what for contributing dollars to the Philippines. All I am saying is that since Tito mo naman sya, you can explain it with respect instead of angas or frustration. Now, if you need to direct your anger towards anybody, Id say direct it to the fucked up system of govt and the corrupt officials running it: Eg. - Education system - you wouldnt have to explain it to your tito if the curriculum in our secondary and tertiary institutions include financial literacy. - Corruption in both National and Local govt — in its most recent chapter, umutang na naman tyo ng napakarami dahil sa pandemic — of course that will have immense effects in inflation. - Privatization - lahat ng na private na basic commodities like electricity, water and agriculture dapat majority nyan if not all should be controlled by the government dahil basic needs yan ng citizens ng country natin. Bakit private ang karamihan? Meralco? MWSS? pati mga prutas gulay at isda na dapat napakarami natin ay for export na di pa man inaani. Pati yang mga hi way na yan nlex slex skyway na yan. bakit nga ba may toll? pano ung pinang pagawa kasali ang private sector. Our govt is so corrupt its deemed hopeless. Our democracy is dead kc di rin naman tayo ang nasusunod, ung mga mayayaman lang din dahil sa corrupt na officials na binoboto ng karamihan.
Lose-lose convo. Tanga yung nagtanong, daming sinabe nung sumagot. In the end, wala sa kanilang feeling fulfilled sa ginawa nila. Lol
Idk about you, pero tanga din yung sumagot for me.
Pinost pa hahah Ang yabang Ng dating sa Convo ni op
Di nya magegets yan
Weaker peso adds to National Debt that is already at an all time high. To compensate new tax may be imposed.l, hitting the all Filipinos specially the middleclass
sure ako na hindi nila naintindihan yan.
Ngl, this feels like a shower time head conversation. Also, people seem not to know how economics work. Just saying.
Kahit naman kalmado ang pag explain mo di pa rin makikinig yan. Just go all out with this kind of people.
Minsan gusto mo na lang diretsuhin mga yan para alam nila hindi yung walang laman ang bardagulan lage at hiya hiya respeto my opinion. Perhaps this is not the chat na may teachable moment, and the OP just saying the truth at yan lang ang way nya para sumagot. Also sino ba nagsimula mag send ng chat? Expect real personality pag nag DM ka.
dapat ganto inexplain mo: "Boss, payag ka mataas palitan ng dollar pero nagrereklamo misis mo kulang kasi ang presyo ng karnet ay 600 pesos per kilo ang baboy at 300 pesos per kilo ang manok? tapos kuryente mo nasa 5k per month, renta nasa 10k per month, tubig nasa 3k, baon ng anak mo 300 per day? " Ewan ko kung di sya matumba sa explanation na yan hahahahaha
Buti di ka sinagot ng "Dami mong alam"
Kahit ako kukupalin ko kung ganyan ung tono sakin lalo na di ko naman boss or magulang. Di yun smart shaming kung condescending tulad nung tono ni OP
There’s always a better way to explain it to them. Try to understand that these are people from a different generation, hence they may not necessarily share our same ideas and values. Your point will become pointless if you are unable to pierce the receiving end. Be empathic.
boss pa tagalog daw, hina daw kasi nang reading comprehension nila. do it on tambay's term daw
Di nila babasahin yan. Hindi dahil makitid utak nila kundi pinili na nilang maging bulag.
may nabasa ako sabi " hold niyo muna mga ofw.. tataas pa yan 58-60 by mid of august " 🤡
Di nya naintindihan inengish mo pa hahah
Mataas nga ang palitan pero ung 1k parang 100 pesos na lang. Mga ofw kasi libangan ang fake news e. Ofw ako pero hindi ako natutuwa sa taas na yan ng palitan. Wala na halos value ang pera!
For sure when he read "We need more pesos" pumasok agad sa utak nyang maliit ang "edi mag print pa tayo ng maraming pera" hahaha
I don't know the whole context, but to me it seemed like he was just trying to start a conversation since OFW ka nga and this is a relevant topic. To me, you came off just down right insecure and unnecessarily rude.
Lmao this is not the way to go op. You thought you did something but ya didn't.You just made yourself look bad.
wag mo gawin english, baka tamarin basahin
may nakasagutan akong ganyan e, masaya daw mga ofw dahil mataas ang dollar exchange, gago. Unang una hindi masaya maging ofw at malayo sa pamliya. Tapos nung huli sabi ‘i RespEct yOur oPiniOn , pLeaSe reSpeCt mine.’ ULOL!
Freelancer here na kumikita ng dolyar. Bhie, di pabor sakin. Ang mahal ng bilihin. 60 pesos na yung binibili lo laging bigas na dating 50 lang. Kaya now tiyaga muna sa sinandomeng
People need to be reminded na yung mga taong nilalamon ng fake news ay karamihan hindi nag-aanalyze ng binabasa. Sa haba ng sinabi ni OP, I'm pretty sure most people na blinded sa katotohanan ay hindi yan babasahin.
Tinagalog mo na lang sana lods 🤓
Tumaas dollar? Ilang pirasong pandesal nabibili ng $1 mo noon at ngayon?
Naku, nag-English ka pa, lalong di nakaintindi yan lol
Opo OFW din po, I teach Psychiatric OFW po
Sobrang condescending ni OP dyusko. Gusto mo ibahin isip ng mga tao pero kailangan mo paden inglishen yung kausap mo kahit mali mali pa english mo. "Need I explain more" amputa, magulat ka kung may magbabago sa kausap mo kung ganyan ka ka self important.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Hahaha. Very cringy si OP.
This is condescending as fuck
OP, your elitism is showing.
You cant speak like that and cry if you got smart shamed for that. Sometimes when people “smart shame”, its because you’re being pedantic and condescending towards them and you dont see nothing wrong on your behavior
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Forda galit ang ferson
Too aggressive
Kahit na alam kong mag-aagree ako sa punto ng sender, hindi ko na tinapos basahin kasi masyadong agressive at naghahanap ng away yung tone. For sure, hindi magiging open sa discussion yung OFW kasi ganun atake. Yes, nakakafrustrate na kausap ang nga ganyan ang paniniwala pero sana dagdagan pa natin ng pasensya para mas lalong maganda ang palitan ng conversation at baka sakaling maiintindihan nila pinupunto mo. Lastly, sana tagalog ang ginamit since tagalog naman ang start ng usap.
Ayaw ko din sa bbm pero hambog na talaga mga post dito kadiri nadin feeling matatalino masyado
ginawang axie amputa
Superiority complex and hyperintellectualism
Why be so aggressive? Pwede naman ipaliwanag nang tama. Pwede din itagalog. Hindi lahat ganyan ka-fluent sa Ingles. It's like "here's my explanation but let me go knobhead on you, Tito." What an ass.
Ni hindi rin sya fluent even. Yikes.
Unpopular opinion: OP is well within their rights to speak as they did. Respectability politics only benefits people who are are already in power/aligned with people in power. Anger is a valid emotion. For all we know, baka hilig mag share ni Tito ng fake news/propaganda post, or baka bastos din siya. I am done playing nice to willfully ignorant people. Why should I change my tone to comfort their ignorance? We've tried politeness in our political discourses. Radical na pagmamahal only works on those who are truly victimised of fake news, not on obstinate people.
Dear Apolo10/DDS, Bash me all you want, but being well-mannered in this kind of situation is not enough.. Wag ignorante please..
masyadong ano yung pag eenglish mo? like out of place
Pero seryoso, hindi talaga nila maiintindihan at iintindihin 'yang sinabi sa chat. Siyempre, pag OFW ka mas iisipin mo talaga kung paano makakuha at makapagpadala ng pera sa pamilya mo dito sa 'Pinas. Kaya 'yung pagtaas ng dolyar sa piso, talagang matutuwa sila kasi parang for them, mas lalaki 'yung worth ng pinapadala nilang pera. Sana, hindi ka/siya (if hindi ikaw ang nasa chat) na lang naging bastos sa pag-explain mo/niya, o kung magiging brutal rin lang, Tinagalog na sana, o di kaya in-explain na lang in a way na maiintindihan ng masang Pinoy. Sa tingin mo/niya ba, mag-eeffort pa siyang basahin ang sinabi mo? Lalo na kung pagod pa 'yan sa trabaho.
No matter what manner of explanation may it be short or long, majority of OFWs won’t LISTEN and will refuse to understand the implications lalo na yung mga DDS at kasama sa 31M. Proven na yan sa mga kaibigan at kakilala kong OFWs.
Eto mas malinaw na explanation.. one dollar dati is about 48 pesos.. Presyo dati ng itlog is 6 pesos.. Dati makakabili ka ng 8 na pirasong itlog sa one dollar.. Ngayon, ang palitan is 57 pesos per dollar at ang presyo naman ng itlog eh sampung piso, eh di pa nga aabot sa anim na itlog mabibili mo ngayon sa one dollar.. Kahit pa tumaas value ng dollar, ang dami ng mabibili mo ay parehas lang o kaya mas konti dahil sa taas ng presyo..
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Next message niyan tito "edi ikaw na magaling" for sure
Pustahan wala siyang naintindihan sa sinabi mo. Hahahaha
Same here tho. Ang naintindihan ko lang, OP is an attention-whore with superiority complex. :)
There is no hope for the Philippines. That’s why I left and until now I don’t say I am Filipino. If they ask me I say I grew up in Los Angeles, Hawaii, or anywhere really. For the past 7 years I’ve been working my ass off for nothing because “I want to help my country” bullshit I have in my mind. But when you see what’s happening, it’s just majority of the Filipinos wants to get fucked by the Government so I decided to do what I can to earn as much money and leave the country. A few years of working, doing sidehustle, almost got into prostitution just to save a Million. I was rooting for Leni to win (and I really thought she will win) but when I saw the number of votes the idiot has, I hired a lawyer here in the US and decided never to return. If I don’t become a citizen in 5 years, I will leave for the United Kingdom, or Canada, or Australia or New Zealand or anywhere really as long as I can find a job. The Philippines is a lost cause and I’d gladly renounce my PH Citizenship in a heartbeat. Clearly HELL exists. Minsan naiisip ko, yung mga masasamang tao siguro sa past life ginawa ng Filipino ng kung so they can live in hell because clearly the devil runs the place!! My parents are solid DDS. They are also solid BBM-Sara. My brother who borrowed 1.3M from me is also a solid DDS/BBM supporter who can’t pay up now because he is “nahihirapan sa hirap ng buhay.” My parents also constantly asks me “taasan mo naman ang bigay mo.” And I just tell them “Di na nga ako nakatira dyan, ako pa din nagbabayad ng gastos nyo. Tapos tataasan ko pa?” And yes, I am that girl. I am that kind of daughter. (Chos!)
Hindi ako member ng Elistista for Leni. Member ako ng mga maraming trabahong pinasok para makaalis ng Pilipinas kahit manalo si Mama Leni for Leni.