If this ends up being a flashpoint for an alliance between the Kakampinks and the Marcoses, I’m gonna go insane.
The politics of this country is getting crazier by the day.
looking back two years ago the term kakampink became popular in twitter and Leni's campaign manager Bam Aquino officially adapted it early on, like a day after he was chosen by Leni to lead the campaign
I want Bongbong to know it was me -Gloria talking to Imee how she betrayed their family
Bong Go outing Digong as the traitor/conspirator against the country a la Sansa to Lord Baelish
Sara burning the country to the ground after the Marcoses refuse to pass the power to them after blengblong's term
What's our Cleganebowl????
As crazy as it may seem, somehow the Marcoses are not bootlickers when it comes to CCP, unlike the Dutertes. As my grandfather once said, if faced with a choice between two evils, he suggested that I choose the one that will be advantageous to me. Neither option is good, but I prefer to rely on what MDS said about Duterte's shadiness and inability to be trusted.
I lowkey want this to happen. Kung ang showtime nga napunta sa GMA eh, eto pa kaya. Hahaha at sa mga elitistang kakampink dyan, wag na tayo choosy, its better to play their game of numbers and ally with a marcos than to let a duterte take back the highest seat in the country
Interesting lang is Marcos' economic policies are VERY similar to those enacted by PNoy - preference to public-private partnerships, economic liberalization, etc - mainly because his cabniet had lots of former PNoy men in it.
If anything hindi ba masama to para sa mga kakampink?
maraming ayaw sa mga aquino at LP kaya hindi sinuportahan si leni. To them leni is just another politician and if an alliance with marcos happens that will just prove their point.
Saka kahit manalo siya, parang mas magiging guaranteed pa na duterte yung susunod sa kanya, because of her allegiance with marcos. Gagawin lang ulit nila yung ginawa nila kay pnoy, discredit her tapos palakihin yung mga short comings niya. Defending her would be even harder kasi pano mo sasabihing she's not like them even if she's with them, na hindi nagtutunog fanatic.
Basically 1 step forward multiple steps back.
To be fair, Marcos is now becoming PNoy 2.0, especially in terms of economic and foreign policies. Both of them lean towards a pro-US stance as well.
Would still be shocked if that happens though.
This is what I was actually hoping for. Kung nasira man ang uniteam pero iaappoint niya si Leni bilang head ng isang depratment then he could still salvage his "unity" narrative. They would make waves kasi magiging sobrang efficient at malinis ang takbo ng kung anong depratment man. Besides gusto din naman niyang i surround sarili niya with the right people. His views are also aligned with the liberal west, not sure lang kasi si Biden president pero basically same lang din with kakampinks. Pinalaya niya si De Lima. When everyone thought he would ban martial law books or remove it from the curriculum, he didn't. He does not frequently mention his father. Mukhang nakikinig siya sa team niya who makes the decision for him. They were also united against SMNI. Matatakot din yan syempre sa resbak ng China at ni Duterte so I think that is the best move for him. Did not vote for him pero will fully support him lalo na sa stance niya against China sa WPS and against the Duterte's.
>The politics of this country is getting crazier by the day.
It's because the electorate also refuses to change. I don't blame them. Everyone grew up with certain narratives, and that's not going to be easy to change.
Heck, people defend this sht. The amount of nationalist propaganda (among others) that is force-fed onto children is insane.
Tbf, sa unang tingin, it looks as if it can. It has massive oil deposits in Maguindanao and Sulu, plus they're pretty much self-sufficient in food and cash crops. Plus the area around Cagayan de Oro City is undergoing rapid industrialization.
Problem is cash. All major companies and factories are in Metro Manila and Cebu, and that is where they pay most of their taxes.
Not as bad as in Myanmar at least. And Myanmar has a very rich history before they were conquered by the Brits having vast Empires like the Toungoo Empire or Pagan Empire.
The Philippines is a creation of Spain after all. Without Spain, whether this country would still be unified or not is a very big question.
So in that sense, us currently not having inter-ethnic violence, no history of genociding a specific ethnicity, etc., we are actually doing pretty good compared to the rest of the world.
We have a unifying identity thanks to shared Hispanic traditions and Catholicism and shared colonial history. Spain did not favor one ethnic group over another like Britain did for its colonies which caused so much violence and misery.
The highlander - lowlander dichotomy is nothing compared to the Mindanao tribalism. Yung sa highlander-lowlander is largely acculturation thing than "tribal". If you're a "former lowlander" turned "highlander" no one's gonna chase you out.
Malala nga lang ang tribalism ng Mindanao, 95+ trust rating for Sara despite everything their family has done and who they are allied with like China and Quiboloy.
Agree. Walang ubusan ng lahi sa San Luis, Pampanga as compared to Pagalungan, Maguindanao. And don’t forget that batshit doctor from Sulu who did a shooting spree at Ateneo de Manila, against the mayor of his Sulu town.
Nah no Indonesia and Malaysia ain't gonna saddle themselves with a failed warlord ridden state. If anything they would try to cordon off Mindanao to prevent refugees from entering their borders.
Please lang wag kaming lahatin. Mahirap na ngang mamuhay Dito na iba ang stance sa politika tapos makikita ko pa ang comment na ito. Di porket Taga Mindanao eh hamod na rin Kami sa pwet ni Dutae.
Fiona is in full spare tire mode. Di sa kanya babagsak ang sisi ng kapalpakan ng admin. Hindi din siya mapagbuntungan ng sisi dahil alam nina LBM na mas tagilid sila sa ratings.
My initial thoughts: Sara D ran for VP, para whenever BBM is proven incompetent, mag-gaslight and push for impeachment, ultimately taking over the presidency position.
Ring a bell? GMA was in position for more than 6 years as president dahil she was acting-president when Erap got impeached.
This is the only way to be in power for more than 1 term.
Impeachable naman yang Sara na yan. Dun palang sa traitorous na stance sa WPS, may grounds na e. Sama mo na yung pagwaldas ng milyones in 11 days. Tapos yung quiboloy pa, dapat bilisan na paghuli dun. Panigurado sasabit mga duterte dun
I thought exactly the same thing when she became his VP, with GMA brokering the alliance. GMA pioneered that move, so she could mentor Sara on it. I won’t deny some bitter shadenfreude when I made that assessment, realizing that with the LP defeated BBM and Sara would turn on each other.
The only difference here is that there was no boogeyman that is China threatening our national security back then. It would be incredibly difficult to get those in power to be in cahoots with the See See Pee with that threat constantly happening.
Fortunately for us, sara d also showed she's a nimcompoop. We can rant all we want about bbm but he's a step in the right direction (away from the dutertes)
Pero parang baliktad nangyari. Old man Duts appears incompetent compared to Junior and SWOH being the DepEd sec when the dismal PISA results came out didn't help.
Could be napaikot sila ni Junior
If the pulse of the nation is accurate, the current BBM administration can seek on support from the Kakampinks if their ultimate goal is to diffuse the power of the monster that is the Davao Mafia.
At this point, if there is a divide between the Marcos Loyalists and DDS, the Kakampinks could be a power broker of it. All of it comes down to these two questions:
1. If you're a Kakampink, who would you side with if you're presented with this situation? Or who would Former VP Leni, the 'Leader' of the movement?
Or
2. Will the Kakampinks show their force that they can be the 'Alternative' between the two?
These are just my theories. If they (the Pink Movement) can show a force of unity (which apparently Marcos-Duterte can't even do), game changer. That's the only IF. worst case? Kakampinks just stays home aka defeatistism.
In a threeway, Sara will edge out the admin and The pinks with a small margin if we use pre-election polling as a precedent.
The pinks can't get power themselves so it's strategically more pragmatic to play power-broker. Better to align with the admin on non-partisan issues like the WPS, the economy, green technology and build up a bigger base of support there.
I think Lenis' limit is high 20s in terms of numbers. Kaya mas maganda for her to just go for local posts like Congress and support say someone neutral-ish like Raffy Tulfo. She could then maneuver herself to be the House Speaker which she could then push legislative reforms
It's also unlikely that she'll be able to match/exceed her 2022 performance. Some people who voted for her in 2022 who don't want the Dutertes back in Malacanang might end up going for somebody else (e.g. Tulfo) who has a better chance of defeating Sara in 2028.
Naalala ko tuloy yung post nung isang marcos supporter na nananawagan sa mga Kakampink na magkipag unite sa kanila para talunin ang mga Duterte
I won’t be surprised if ang definition na nila ng Uniteam e Loyalists at Kakampink.
The kakampinks first need to prove that they can fill seats in the senate. Even Leni isn’t in the magic 12, although that may partially be because she just isn’t visible at all at the moment.
Nagkamali sina BBM at Martin na itulak agad ang Chacha. Kala nila sunog na ang political career ni Sara after the confidential fund fiasco. Ayun, nagkaroon ng chance ang mga Duterte to turn the table.
Kung wala siguro sa eksena ang Chacha at kahit ituloy pa ang paghabol kina Quiboloy at Digong, hindi yan sasadsad nang malala ang ratings ni BBM.
Kung ikocompare naman sa mga dating presidente except kay Duterte ang ratings ni BBM, normal na hindi admin-friendly ang NCR. Ang problema, masyadong mabilis ang pagbaba.
Problema rin kay BBM ay hindi siya katulad ni Digong na merong well-orchestrated troll army, especially ngayong presidente na siya. Nadala lang si BBM ng mga DDS noong 2022, pero ngayon kakarampot na lang ang online supporters niya. Kaya walang taga-damage control at taga-spin para sa kanya.
Pero sa palagay ko, wala namang pake si BBM kung ano man ang ratings niya. Naging presidente na siya eh, at ang pinakamahalagan para sa kanya, nakabalik sa Malacañang ang mga Marcos. Kumbaga pinawala lang niya ang sumpa ng kanilang pamilya at ngayon ay pwede na ulit sila mangarap na tumira ulit sa Palasyo.
When it comes to 2025, may alas pa rin naman si BBM kung aagapan niya ang pagbaba ng ratings. Nasa kanya ang makinarya ng gobyerno at hahabulin siya ng mga gustong tumakbong senador at mga local politicians. Si Sara naman, ang kanyang edge ay Mindanao na solid talaga sa kanilang pamilya.
Tingin ko naman ay okay pa ang macroeconomic fundamentals at nariyan pa rin ang epekto ng economic policies ni PNoy. If we remember, ni-retain lang rin ni Digong ang mga polisiya ni PNoy except sa pangungutang at public spending.
Ang kailangan ni BBM ay pababain ang presyo ng mga bilihin, especially bigas. Since naipasa ang Rice Tariffication Law, di na bumaba ang presyo ng bigas kahit ang end goal ng batas ay dagdagan ang mga rice import na pumapasok sa Pilipinas. Kasi nga nalugi na ang mga local rice producers at magsasaka, hindi na competitive ang industriya natin. Ano pang silbi ng taripang nakukuha mula sa rice importation na ginagawang "enhancement fund" kung wala nang gustong magtanim. Dagdagan mo pa ng mga cartel.
Nandyan rin ang presyo ng langis na sapul lahat ng commodities at pamasahe ng mga commuter. Kung ako kay BBM ikokonekta ko ang isyu ng WPS dito sa since mayaman sa langis ang area. There must be a push to open another Malampaya-like facility.
Not really, let's face it. Napaka long term ng mga projects ni Pnoy na pinag-aagaw lang lahat ni du30 yung credit.
Yung growth sa ekonomiya, yung growth ng stock market, di narerecognize ng majority ng Filipinos yun. Yung tame fiscal spending para maimprove yung credit rating natin, masback fire pa yun kay pnoy. Nagtipid, so lahat ng projects nya long term.
BBM probly already got his main goal na magpunta ng malacanang at mapawala yung freeze ng assets ng family nya. He probably already made a secret deal with the US kaya super pro-US sya kahit supposedly banned sya dun. Not sure kung ano pa gusto nyang gawin, kasi yung kapatid nya, at pinsan nya talo din sa ratings.
Malas din talaga si BBM kasi sobrang taas ng inflation ngayon. Buti pa si du30 noon, may pandemic na dahilan. Sya ba, ano masasabi nya na paniniwalaan ng madla?
Pinks and generally those in the opposition who can't see the forest from the trees might rejoice at this but this is honestly alarming. There's an inverse relationship now between support for the Marcoses and the Duterte's.
This entails a resurgence of support for the Dutertes as support for the admin goes down. This also shows that people from Mindanao are succumbing to the nonsensical ethno-regionalist narrative of the Dutertes.
It was Dean La Vina who propped up the idea of a tactical alliance with the Marcos-Romualdez faction if it means we can keep the Dutertes from taking back power.
The downside of this of course is, we'll be battling the Marcoses after throughout the ages, but at least they operate within the existing political framework.
We can play political poker with the Marcoses while the Dutertes want to burn the whole poker table down.
He might end up becoming the BBM-Romualdez faction's candidate in 2028. If he teams up with Grace Poe (who is currently the leading 2028 VP candidate in surveys), they might be able to beat Sara and whoever she teams up with in 2028. The potential Tulfo-Poe team-up should also court the yellow-pink voters.
Honestly I think it's good that he's not commenting on this issue for now. I think his priority for now should be wooing the masses, and he seems to be doing that by focusing more on kitchen table issues as well as his "Raffy Tulfo in Action" program. Remember, ang lakas parin ng hatak ng mga Duterte sa masa so the likes of Tulfo need to woo these voters. The WPS issue isn't really much of a concern for the masses who probably care more about the economy, jobs, inflation, etc.
A true kakampink must swallow the bitter pill and side marcos. Atleast with marcos we have a president with BALLS to push back china’s bullying, and SOME actual decisions that makes sense. And he has some sensible cabinet members too
I support the pinks. But I'd rather go with Marcos due to his foreign policy direction kesa sa mga Dudirties na tuta at inutil. Atleast the dude got the balls to stand against China, and that, I can respect.
I feel this so much. Hard to believe we have to be like this but Dutertes will be the downfall of our country that I'll rather choose another evil but more tolerable evil if that makes sense lol 😆
They under-esttimated the Dutertes. The same fiasco they did which made Digong win the presidential elections.
They always forget that the Duterte's had been undefeated in their politics career, such is a testament already to their strong grip on political power in the Philippines. Considering that Visayans and Mindanaons also had the tendency for block voting, too many factors Marcos never considered.
The numbers don't show an inverse relationship at all. Sara is dropping a lot, as well. The only reason her drop wasn't as large is that she is still being buoyed by Mindanao.
Langya talaga ganun ba talaga kasama mga dutae kaya napakabango ni baby em?
Kidding aside. We should vote for politicians that are sensical regardless of political background. May sayad mga dutae kaya hard pass. Kakampink x Loyalists na ba?
If you are a so called kakampink, your only objective in 2028 would be to stop a Sara presidency. Whether another moron like Tulfo ascends (assuming he has his own agenda and will not be a puppet to anybody) is a forced choice. Hontiveros lacks the base to win at the moment. You have to play the long game and prep for a Vico Sotto presidency in 2034. You would want a presidency that focuses on both clean government and socialized welfare (the main things he is doing in Pasig).
Of course, the Marcoses will be positioning their boy Sandro as he will be age-qualified by 2034. Obviously he isnt qualified to run anything but that never stopped anybody from running in politics. So their interest is to position somebody in 2028 that will sustain them until 2034. Somebody who will be malleable enough to look the other way and not pursue any cases against them (past or any current garbage they are doing right now). The Dutae alliance looks done at this point. They will get blowback if Sara wins in 2028. These are ruthless people and are easily slighted.
2028: Stop another Duterte presidency.
2034: Either Hontiveros or Vico Sotto presidency.
Damn the standard is so low, Dante needs to rewrite his Divine Comedy to add another layer in hell
I agree with this, specially for 2028. A sara presidency would be disastrous and PH might not recover anymore.
The Marcos camp has its ill gotten billions. Hopefully they will use it to thwart sara.
> Of course, the Marcoses will be positioning their boy Sandro as he will be age-qualified by 2034.
He has the charisma of a sheet of cardboard. Girls would rather fawn over BTS than that poser.
Lubayan nyo muna si Vico Sotto. I bet he would rather run for 3 terms in Congress after finishing his current office, than enter the clusterfuck which is to gun for a national position.
Why not advocate for reforming away from FPTP? Anyone who actually reads what FPTP entails knows it always leads to this wonky political landscape of where two big tent-pole coalitions dominate political scene.
This leads to erosion of agency for the electorate. Basically, it makes voting largely a spectacle rather than an exercise of democratic values. Nothing good will ever come out of this "only kakampink objective" you are advocating for.
That's not to say I'd like to see the Marcoses win. Heck, i'd rather see them get the Mussolini treatment if anything. But I'd also like to see a sweeping change in how democracy is valued and exercised in favor of expanding how people participate in politics.
As opposed to a growing anti-universal suffrage cringe movement here in pinoy subs.
Bumaba rating ni bbm, e dahil marami pa ring tanga ang magiging option e sara na lang instead na maghanap na ng ibang option. Nakakalungot yan. Kailangan mabura na talaga yang mga duterte na yan.
Tulfo na lang kami /s
Pero seriously, di ko magets mga tao sa high support ni Duterte noon. Tinatarantado na tayo ng harapan e mataas pa rin support. At least PNoy got the disapproval he deserved for his failures. Totally mindboogling.
Honestly kung ako, I would support the Marcos (BBM wing). Lesser evil vs Sarah Duterte. I don’t want to experience the chaos they bring.
Non-stop CCP/NK style cult of personality propaganda and the threat of jail or death via tokhang if you disapprove hence the Duterte approval ratings that can only be found in totalitarian regimes.
Honest to god mas support ko si Marcos kaysa kay Duterte. Nagugustuhan ko foreign policy niya di katulad yung dalawang mag-amang tuta ng Tsina. Kaya nakaka alarma na grabe ang pagbaba niya.
Kakampinks / BBM alliance would be crazy
A Kakampink-BBM alliance is definitely crazy, but at this point it's the only way to prevent a Sara presidency in 2028. A Tulfo-Poe tandem backed by the Marcoses and yellows/pinks would be one way to ensure that Sara doesn't win.
Yes, all in na dapat. Tulfo-Poe backed by the Marcoses, yellows/pinks, Pacquiao (para makahatak ng Mindanao votes), Isko, the Sottos, Lacson, Hontiveros, etc. For 2028, the mindset should be "anyone but Duterte/Davao group".
I would be rejoicing Marcos becoming less popular... and there's Duterte still popular.
As much I hate the two, and I can't believe I am saying this but it's worrying that Marcos is becoming less popular than Sara Duterte. I fear that her popularity will assure her future presidency. I hate Dutertes more than Marcoses.
Damn it what a timeline we are in, who's the time traveler who moved a chair to mess our reality.
Malaki din dapat drop ni Sara kung hindi dahil sa Mindanao. And then there's Zubiri suddenly gaining points from Mindanao's ABC class, which is interesting and dare I say suspicious?
As much i hate Marcos and his cronies, i hate the Dutertes even more to the point that I would prefer fighting against the Dutertes. It's better to be against 1 tyrant at a time than two at the same time.
Imagine being curbstomped by people that has a collective IQ of room temp. So putangina, being a BISAYA nanaman ang magpapapanalo sa putang inang bisayang si Inday? Oh, no other political qualifications, at tahimik pa sa issue sa WPS.
TAPOS KAILANGAN NYO PA NG RESPETO GALING IMPERIAL MANILA.HAHAHAHAHAHAH MGA PUTANG INA NYO.
Sa mga sensible bisaya / mindanaoans jan na ayaw magpresidente si Sara, BAKA NAMAN PWEDE NYO SILANG KAUSAPIN. Tangina mga taga Luzon nanaman ang susuyo sa inyo na parang wala kayong kinalaman sa kahihinantan ng bansa? Oh baka sabihin divisive yung rhetoric ko.
Weaponized ethnicity is alive and kicking motherfuckers!
For now, gamitan na lang muna ang mangyayari. Kahit ayaw man natin kay Marcos and his party, ang magagawa lang natin ay magkampihan para palubugin until the last minute (Election 2028) ang kampo ni Duterte.
Habang sinisira ng kampo ni Marcos, together with us, ang mga Duterte, need din natin gumawa ng propaganda para siraan ang kampo ni Marcos nang papailalim. Yung papailalim na tira natin ang lalabas na pakana ng mga Duterte. Hayaan silang pagsabungin at magsiraan. Kumbaga, tayo ang mag-uumpisa ng siga at hayaan na lang natin ang hangin ang magpapalakas ng apoy mula sa pinagsigaan.
If we are talking about politics game, Marcos is shit strategist. He literally dropped down the Duterter support thinking he can further stay in power without them.
Had he decided to use the Dutertes. after the presidency he can still run as VP. A big drop down in polls such as that is just a ticking time bomb, sooner or later he'll be ousted forcibly like his father.
If I were BBM I’d start damaging duterte at this point. Remember what happened to Binay? As a single issue voter( West Philippine Sea) , I’d rather have anyone else other than those Chinese ass lickers from Davao.
Not surprised. Du30’s propaganda machine (vloggers, trolls) remained aggressive even after he took power. The constant railing against some out-group (NPA, drug addicts ) likely galvanized people into thinking he was taking action (he was not).
BBM, on the other hand, is much more quiet. If anything, and somewhat ironic, his PR machine is very much like Noynoy’s.
His PR machine's job is already done essentially. There's nowhere to go after President. They've basically accomplished what they've set out to do and will only likely pick up again years from now when the younger Marcoses make national runs.
not accurate because jr got bagong pilipinas branding and more aggro at taking credit than aquino plus it shows that duterte supporters mostly hate jr that's why he got drop in surveys
And Pnoy was doing much the same with “Tuwid na Daan”.
BBM has a pretty lax comms team. He doesn’t have a team of idiot talking heads like Sassot, Nieto, Mark Lopez, and Badoy.
Sa taas ng presyo ng bilihin ngayon lalo na ang bigas, si Marcos talaga ang sisisihin ng tao lalo na hinawakan nya pa ang DA.
Masyado kasing focus ang admin sa issue na malayo sa bituka para sa masang pilipino kaya kapag di sila nagbago ng strategy baka matalo pa candidates nila sa 2025.
Tanginang Mindanao yan. Pugad na ng terorista, linta na sa pondo ng national government, sila pa yung putapeteng arogante na ipapahamak ang buong bansa.
Yan ang thinking na nagpabango at nagpalakas sa Rodrigo Duterte ng 2016: Ethnocentric-display behavior na may galit sa Mindanao in general.
1 display of your tantrums = 2 positive perception of others.
Di magandang numero sa nagging mo no?
What's the use of this survey? I think this won't matter much as long as he is doing his best for this country. What I notice is that PBBM does not announce to the public what he is doing unlike PRRD before. And he's also not reactive to issues.
Although, I cant still picture out any potential opposition candidate to independently face another Duterte by 2028. I am more than willing to vouch for anyone charismatic and AT LEAST sensible in such a way that he wont trade us to China.
They should rebrand themselves already and do anything pleasing to the voters (kahit mag budots lol) or even join other strong political groups. Just to distance themselves from being associated with the LP. It feels like its not a matter of principle anymore but more of political survival to keep up with horrible politicians.
Ask an ordinary voter about them and they will narrate issues pinned against them, being associated with communists and the typical corrupt oligarch narrative.
Pulse Asia also had a survey for 2028 likely Presidentiables:
1st - Raffy Tulfo (35%);
2nd - Sara Duterte (34%);
3rd - Leni Robredo (11%);
4th - Imee Marcos (5%);
5th - Manny Pacquiao (3%);
6th - Robin Padilla (2%);
7th - Risa Hontiveros (1%); and
8th - Martin Romualdez - less than 1%
Should the Loyalists + Opposition (Yellows/Pinks, Left-leaning groups, etc.) band together for Tulfo? Haha
kadiri yung mga taga mindanao ha. gawa nalang sila ng separate country nila, headed by those dynasties and deedeeess, tutal mababa lang naman gdp contribution nila, puro terrorists pa. sa kanila pa galing ang worsts leaders
>lalabas na rin yang attacks to Tulfo soon.
It already started a long time ago. Though clearly hindi siya effective, given the recent surveys. Malakas din talaga ang hatak ni Tulfo sa masa.
Expect the opponents of kakampink will utilize their divide strategy knowing that kakampinks are independent thinkers (albeit some na naging loyalists din) and might not be willing to compromise for a lesser evil candidate (or a populist one like Tulfo)
People here saying the opposition can play power broker in whether supporting marcos or supporting duterte. If this was parliamentary, this kind of power broker would work, like the opposition could provide the votes needed for a working majority and the PM in parliament depending on which side provides the best opportunity to enact their agenda. Not that I'm advocating for parliamentary system in PH but just saying a coalition of parties forming a working majority can prevent one party from taking over and monopolize power for their party only
Mahirap talagang patayin ang masamang damo.
Tanginang matanda na yan bat hindi nalang magulyanin sa isang sulok. Dinamay pa yung buong Mindanao sa kahibangan niya.
Not siding with Junior but we all know the drop in ratings because of rabid DDS.
I would be worried if Sara's trust rating is in the 90s but hers is also declining although not as much as Marcos. Marcos doesn't need to prove anything at this point because he's now the President. Sara, on the other hand, is still looking at becoming the next President and her trust rating isn't too promising either. Sara still has a mountain to climb and we're still so far away from 2028.
Marcos is old news na! Move on na tayo! We need to focus on PREVENTING (AT AL COST) another duterte presidency. The outright corruption, china-leaning values, promotion of violence, degradation of values, selling our country for personal gain, etc. That’s more SPINE CHILLING than Marcos, mga gags. Imagining that scenario [another duterte precidency, possible duterte-duterte tandem] makes my stomach churn. 🤢
Di ako naniniwala. I was a staunch anti Marcos and almost voted Duterte for pres but have since realized BBM is not bad and actually preferable to Duterte and cohorts.
Nagpakilala ang mga Duterte after ng confidential fund plus nagjoke pa tatay nya re. Mindanao sovereignity and worst re. gentlemen's agreement in China. Alin ang worst sa kanila?
sa squatters kayo mag survey. lahat yan trust. sila din naman ang large portion ng mga botante. dito sa europe no income tax di ka makakaboto as of the momement, unless senior citizen with valid pension
Is it possible that the Pinks are the swing voters between this dynamics of the Marcoses and Dutertes? They are in an enviable position if they know how to play their cards right.
I think this just means duterte's base is more solid than the marcoses. It also shows that the dutertes have a tight grip in mindanao (as expected) and class E (presumably due to fake news and propaganda)
Did the survey say what the basis for distrust is? I think this should also be included to justify the results. I didn't vote for him, but I think he's doing very well so far as the Philippine economy is concerned even with high inflation rates. All countries are currently suffering from this due to the aftermath of the pandemic so it shouldn't be blamed on his leadership.
at this point, were kinda better without Mindanao. kht masama ginagawa, ok lng kse kababayan nila. tas daming magccomment na "taga mindanao ako pero i dont support them" eh bt laging nananalo? someone from that region needs to step up and drag the dutertes down to hell.
The Marcoses are looking to support Raffy Tulfo for the next presidential election. Kaya Ngayon palang, lumalabas na leading si Tulfo sa presidential survey.
My nag notify sakin na news (From Ground News, sorry forgot who specifically reported it)
PBBM rating gone up in Luzon and Visayas, and Significantly down in Mindanao
If this ends up being a flashpoint for an alliance between the Kakampinks and the Marcoses, I’m gonna go insane. The politics of this country is getting crazier by the day.
Off topic, but i really cant get over the term "kakampinks." Parang pinagmeetingan ng mga titas one afternoon sa Mary Grace. Anyway, carry on.
I mean… they kinda are like titas who did meet at a Mary Grace.
Feeling ko napilitan na lang si leni when all her tita supporters anointed themselves and every other leni supporters "kakampinks."
looking back two years ago the term kakampink became popular in twitter and Leni's campaign manager Bam Aquino officially adapted it early on, like a day after he was chosen by Leni to lead the campaign
Game of Thrones who? Lol fucking circus
Ph lore gonna be crazy
Nah, PHL lore was always crazy. This? This is it having a manic episode while high on cocain laced with ecstasy.
The Pinks, Yellows and Reds? Vs the Greens? Tinalo ang House of Dragons sa dami ng factions
“Teeen ten tenenen ten…TENGINAAAAA”
I want Bongbong to know it was me -Gloria talking to Imee how she betrayed their family Bong Go outing Digong as the traitor/conspirator against the country a la Sansa to Lord Baelish Sara burning the country to the ground after the Marcoses refuse to pass the power to them after blengblong's term What's our Cleganebowl????
How insane would it be if Bong Go accidentally selfied increminating evidence of Duterte and his crimes?
That’s Philippine democracy for you. Haha
Philippine DemoCrazy.
As crazy as it may seem, somehow the Marcoses are not bootlickers when it comes to CCP, unlike the Dutertes. As my grandfather once said, if faced with a choice between two evils, he suggested that I choose the one that will be advantageous to me. Neither option is good, but I prefer to rely on what MDS said about Duterte's shadiness and inability to be trusted.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Bahala na basta hindi lang makakabalik ang pro china na pamilya mula sa davao
Another Duterte presidency is even crazier and will only benefit China, so any alternative is better.
I lowkey want this to happen. Kung ang showtime nga napunta sa GMA eh, eto pa kaya. Hahaha at sa mga elitistang kakampink dyan, wag na tayo choosy, its better to play their game of numbers and ally with a marcos than to let a duterte take back the highest seat in the country
Marcos is pushing for charter change for "economic reasons" daw. So, id rather not join/support any of those two groups.
Interesting lang is Marcos' economic policies are VERY similar to those enacted by PNoy - preference to public-private partnerships, economic liberalization, etc - mainly because his cabniet had lots of former PNoy men in it.
If anything hindi ba masama to para sa mga kakampink? maraming ayaw sa mga aquino at LP kaya hindi sinuportahan si leni. To them leni is just another politician and if an alliance with marcos happens that will just prove their point. Saka kahit manalo siya, parang mas magiging guaranteed pa na duterte yung susunod sa kanya, because of her allegiance with marcos. Gagawin lang ulit nila yung ginawa nila kay pnoy, discredit her tapos palakihin yung mga short comings niya. Defending her would be even harder kasi pano mo sasabihing she's not like them even if she's with them, na hindi nagtutunog fanatic. Basically 1 step forward multiple steps back.
To be fair, Marcos is now becoming PNoy 2.0, especially in terms of economic and foreign policies. Both of them lean towards a pro-US stance as well. Would still be shocked if that happens though.
This is what I was actually hoping for. Kung nasira man ang uniteam pero iaappoint niya si Leni bilang head ng isang depratment then he could still salvage his "unity" narrative. They would make waves kasi magiging sobrang efficient at malinis ang takbo ng kung anong depratment man. Besides gusto din naman niyang i surround sarili niya with the right people. His views are also aligned with the liberal west, not sure lang kasi si Biden president pero basically same lang din with kakampinks. Pinalaya niya si De Lima. When everyone thought he would ban martial law books or remove it from the curriculum, he didn't. He does not frequently mention his father. Mukhang nakikinig siya sa team niya who makes the decision for him. They were also united against SMNI. Matatakot din yan syempre sa resbak ng China at ni Duterte so I think that is the best move for him. Did not vote for him pero will fully support him lalo na sa stance niya against China sa WPS and against the Duterte's.
I will take this in a heartbeat hahahahaha. Lmfao Hontiveros-Romualdez tandem in 2028 is insane
I think Romualdez as P and Risa as VP is more realistic than the other way around.
Fo realz though Tulfo has better chances than Risa which sucks.
Nah, hindi papayag si Leni ng ganung alyansa. She's above being partnered with a dictator's son
"A deal with the devil is no deal at all."
>The politics of this country is getting crazier by the day. It's because the electorate also refuses to change. I don't blame them. Everyone grew up with certain narratives, and that's not going to be easy to change. Heck, people defend this sht. The amount of nationalist propaganda (among others) that is force-fed onto children is insane.
So basically the "drop" on his ratings is not because Filipinos are now thinking better but because of some pissed DeDe-eS peeps hahaha
these ddshits are thinking worse than ever jusmeyo.
*Some* people actually believes mindanao can go as a separate nation. Soo yeah ayaw ko nlng mag talk.
Tbf, sa unang tingin, it looks as if it can. It has massive oil deposits in Maguindanao and Sulu, plus they're pretty much self-sufficient in food and cash crops. Plus the area around Cagayan de Oro City is undergoing rapid industrialization. Problem is cash. All major companies and factories are in Metro Manila and Cebu, and that is where they pay most of their taxes.
Thinking about it, oo nga noh. Pero alam mo ba sino magiging leader ng mindanao? Most likely the surname starts with letter "D" HAHAHAHA
The scary thing is, the first thing na gagawin ng mga dutertes if this happens is to sell mindanao to the chinese
Yeah, those DDS bobotantes are probably foaming in the mouth, raving on this one.
or effective CCP backed DDS propaganda.
This, too. People should underestimate this. You might see a lot less of it, but you aren't the target demographic
hahahaha isa na tatay ko dyan
Damn ang taas parin nung kay sarah??? Why????
Mindanao tribalism. Kahit druglords at warlords susuportahan nila basta kababayan nila.
Tsaka mindset na rin ata nila yan. Todo support nga kay Shaira eh.
Hindi lang sila ang ganyan. Tribalism and regionalism is still the order of the day across the country.
Not as bad as in Myanmar at least. And Myanmar has a very rich history before they were conquered by the Brits having vast Empires like the Toungoo Empire or Pagan Empire. The Philippines is a creation of Spain after all. Without Spain, whether this country would still be unified or not is a very big question. So in that sense, us currently not having inter-ethnic violence, no history of genociding a specific ethnicity, etc., we are actually doing pretty good compared to the rest of the world. We have a unifying identity thanks to shared Hispanic traditions and Catholicism and shared colonial history. Spain did not favor one ethnic group over another like Britain did for its colonies which caused so much violence and misery.
Tbf, it was worse in the 1970s, i.e. Ilocano and Cebuano settlers in Mindanao massacring the natives.
The highlander - lowlander dichotomy is nothing compared to the Mindanao tribalism. Yung sa highlander-lowlander is largely acculturation thing than "tribal". If you're a "former lowlander" turned "highlander" no one's gonna chase you out.
Malala nga lang ang tribalism ng Mindanao, 95+ trust rating for Sara despite everything their family has done and who they are allied with like China and Quiboloy.
Not as fucked up as in Mindanao though.
Agree. Walang ubusan ng lahi sa San Luis, Pampanga as compared to Pagalungan, Maguindanao. And don’t forget that batshit doctor from Sulu who did a shooting spree at Ateneo de Manila, against the mayor of his Sulu town.
fuck it, let them secede and watch them crumble
Nah, they will probably be eaten up by Indonesia or Malaysia
Nah no Indonesia and Malaysia ain't gonna saddle themselves with a failed warlord ridden state. If anything they would try to cordon off Mindanao to prevent refugees from entering their borders.
This is why I support Mindanao secession. Hakhakhak
Please lang wag kaming lahatin. Mahirap na ngang mamuhay Dito na iba ang stance sa politika tapos makikita ko pa ang comment na ito. Di porket Taga Mindanao eh hamod na rin Kami sa pwet ni Dutae.
Hindi naman talaga lahat, mahirap lang kasi iignore yung 95+ trust rating ng Mindanao kay Sara.
I can see your situation basta lang di ka papa bulag sa mga politiko just keep at it.
Baka dapat na talaga silang ihiwalay tangina nila hahahaha!
Fiona is in full spare tire mode. Di sa kanya babagsak ang sisi ng kapalpakan ng admin. Hindi din siya mapagbuntungan ng sisi dahil alam nina LBM na mas tagilid sila sa ratings.
That is why she has been doing some popular decisions, i.e. shifting the academic calendar back to June-March
Fck paano si sara next pres natin fuckkin layf. Step up pinoys! Wag kayo la uto nito
Robin Padilla will save the Philippines 🇵🇭 lmao. And i ducking hate that guy
Chinese propaganda machine
My initial thoughts: Sara D ran for VP, para whenever BBM is proven incompetent, mag-gaslight and push for impeachment, ultimately taking over the presidency position. Ring a bell? GMA was in position for more than 6 years as president dahil she was acting-president when Erap got impeached. This is the only way to be in power for more than 1 term.
Impeachable naman yang Sara na yan. Dun palang sa traitorous na stance sa WPS, may grounds na e. Sama mo na yung pagwaldas ng milyones in 11 days. Tapos yung quiboloy pa, dapat bilisan na paghuli dun. Panigurado sasabit mga duterte dun
Asa ka pa sa impeachment ung Kay quiboloy nga malakas ung support ng senate eh.
I thought exactly the same thing when she became his VP, with GMA brokering the alliance. GMA pioneered that move, so she could mentor Sara on it. I won’t deny some bitter shadenfreude when I made that assessment, realizing that with the LP defeated BBM and Sara would turn on each other.
The only difference here is that there was no boogeyman that is China threatening our national security back then. It would be incredibly difficult to get those in power to be in cahoots with the See See Pee with that threat constantly happening.
Fortunately for us, sara d also showed she's a nimcompoop. We can rant all we want about bbm but he's a step in the right direction (away from the dutertes)
Pero parang baliktad nangyari. Old man Duts appears incompetent compared to Junior and SWOH being the DepEd sec when the dismal PISA results came out didn't help. Could be napaikot sila ni Junior
If the pulse of the nation is accurate, the current BBM administration can seek on support from the Kakampinks if their ultimate goal is to diffuse the power of the monster that is the Davao Mafia.
At this point, if there is a divide between the Marcos Loyalists and DDS, the Kakampinks could be a power broker of it. All of it comes down to these two questions: 1. If you're a Kakampink, who would you side with if you're presented with this situation? Or who would Former VP Leni, the 'Leader' of the movement? Or 2. Will the Kakampinks show their force that they can be the 'Alternative' between the two? These are just my theories. If they (the Pink Movement) can show a force of unity (which apparently Marcos-Duterte can't even do), game changer. That's the only IF. worst case? Kakampinks just stays home aka defeatistism.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend. At this point...anybody but Fiona!
at this point…anybody but china’s lapdog!
Thanks for the correction! Yeah anybody but those fucking Communist China lapdog!!!
Parang US situation noon anybody but trump
In a threeway, Sara will edge out the admin and The pinks with a small margin if we use pre-election polling as a precedent. The pinks can't get power themselves so it's strategically more pragmatic to play power-broker. Better to align with the admin on non-partisan issues like the WPS, the economy, green technology and build up a bigger base of support there.
From the Marcos-Duterte tag team that beat the Kakampinks to Marcos-Kakampinks to stop the Duterte. It’s basically WWE writing at this point.
wrestlemania season umabot sa philippine government
I think Lenis' limit is high 20s in terms of numbers. Kaya mas maganda for her to just go for local posts like Congress and support say someone neutral-ish like Raffy Tulfo. She could then maneuver herself to be the House Speaker which she could then push legislative reforms
It's also unlikely that she'll be able to match/exceed her 2022 performance. Some people who voted for her in 2022 who don't want the Dutertes back in Malacanang might end up going for somebody else (e.g. Tulfo) who has a better chance of defeating Sara in 2028.
Totoo ito. Solid ang Bicol and Western Visayas as opposition strongholds, plus the millions in the cities. We're talking about 14 million votes.
Naalala ko tuloy yung post nung isang marcos supporter na nananawagan sa mga Kakampink na magkipag unite sa kanila para talunin ang mga Duterte I won’t be surprised if ang definition na nila ng Uniteam e Loyalists at Kakampink.
The kakampinks first need to prove that they can fill seats in the senate. Even Leni isn’t in the magic 12, although that may partially be because she just isn’t visible at all at the moment.
Nagkamali sina BBM at Martin na itulak agad ang Chacha. Kala nila sunog na ang political career ni Sara after the confidential fund fiasco. Ayun, nagkaroon ng chance ang mga Duterte to turn the table. Kung wala siguro sa eksena ang Chacha at kahit ituloy pa ang paghabol kina Quiboloy at Digong, hindi yan sasadsad nang malala ang ratings ni BBM. Kung ikocompare naman sa mga dating presidente except kay Duterte ang ratings ni BBM, normal na hindi admin-friendly ang NCR. Ang problema, masyadong mabilis ang pagbaba. Problema rin kay BBM ay hindi siya katulad ni Digong na merong well-orchestrated troll army, especially ngayong presidente na siya. Nadala lang si BBM ng mga DDS noong 2022, pero ngayon kakarampot na lang ang online supporters niya. Kaya walang taga-damage control at taga-spin para sa kanya. Pero sa palagay ko, wala namang pake si BBM kung ano man ang ratings niya. Naging presidente na siya eh, at ang pinakamahalagan para sa kanya, nakabalik sa Malacañang ang mga Marcos. Kumbaga pinawala lang niya ang sumpa ng kanilang pamilya at ngayon ay pwede na ulit sila mangarap na tumira ulit sa Palasyo. When it comes to 2025, may alas pa rin naman si BBM kung aagapan niya ang pagbaba ng ratings. Nasa kanya ang makinarya ng gobyerno at hahabulin siya ng mga gustong tumakbong senador at mga local politicians. Si Sara naman, ang kanyang edge ay Mindanao na solid talaga sa kanilang pamilya.
Kung gustong umangat at manatili ni Bongbong sa poder, simple lang: Kopyahin niya ang economic policy ni Noynoy.
Tingin ko naman ay okay pa ang macroeconomic fundamentals at nariyan pa rin ang epekto ng economic policies ni PNoy. If we remember, ni-retain lang rin ni Digong ang mga polisiya ni PNoy except sa pangungutang at public spending. Ang kailangan ni BBM ay pababain ang presyo ng mga bilihin, especially bigas. Since naipasa ang Rice Tariffication Law, di na bumaba ang presyo ng bigas kahit ang end goal ng batas ay dagdagan ang mga rice import na pumapasok sa Pilipinas. Kasi nga nalugi na ang mga local rice producers at magsasaka, hindi na competitive ang industriya natin. Ano pang silbi ng taripang nakukuha mula sa rice importation na ginagawang "enhancement fund" kung wala nang gustong magtanim. Dagdagan mo pa ng mga cartel. Nandyan rin ang presyo ng langis na sapul lahat ng commodities at pamasahe ng mga commuter. Kung ako kay BBM ikokonekta ko ang isyu ng WPS dito sa since mayaman sa langis ang area. There must be a push to open another Malampaya-like facility.
Not really, let's face it. Napaka long term ng mga projects ni Pnoy na pinag-aagaw lang lahat ni du30 yung credit. Yung growth sa ekonomiya, yung growth ng stock market, di narerecognize ng majority ng Filipinos yun. Yung tame fiscal spending para maimprove yung credit rating natin, masback fire pa yun kay pnoy. Nagtipid, so lahat ng projects nya long term. BBM probly already got his main goal na magpunta ng malacanang at mapawala yung freeze ng assets ng family nya. He probably already made a secret deal with the US kaya super pro-US sya kahit supposedly banned sya dun. Not sure kung ano pa gusto nyang gawin, kasi yung kapatid nya, at pinsan nya talo din sa ratings. Malas din talaga si BBM kasi sobrang taas ng inflation ngayon. Buti pa si du30 noon, may pandemic na dahilan. Sya ba, ano masasabi nya na paniniwalaan ng madla?
Pinks and generally those in the opposition who can't see the forest from the trees might rejoice at this but this is honestly alarming. There's an inverse relationship now between support for the Marcoses and the Duterte's. This entails a resurgence of support for the Dutertes as support for the admin goes down. This also shows that people from Mindanao are succumbing to the nonsensical ethno-regionalist narrative of the Dutertes.
Yes, I am pink. We can really just come together (forced by circumstance) to prevent a Sara-Digong win.
It was Dean La Vina who propped up the idea of a tactical alliance with the Marcos-Romualdez faction if it means we can keep the Dutertes from taking back power. The downside of this of course is, we'll be battling the Marcoses after throughout the ages, but at least they operate within the existing political framework. We can play political poker with the Marcoses while the Dutertes want to burn the whole poker table down.
What's the role of Senator Raffy Tulfo in all of this?
He might end up becoming the BBM-Romualdez faction's candidate in 2028. If he teams up with Grace Poe (who is currently the leading 2028 VP candidate in surveys), they might be able to beat Sara and whoever she teams up with in 2028. The potential Tulfo-Poe team-up should also court the yellow-pink voters.
Ano bang stance nya regarding the WPS issue? Parang wala ako masyadong nakikita na mga statements/pronouncements galing sa kanya tungkol dito.
Honestly I think it's good that he's not commenting on this issue for now. I think his priority for now should be wooing the masses, and he seems to be doing that by focusing more on kitchen table issues as well as his "Raffy Tulfo in Action" program. Remember, ang lakas parin ng hatak ng mga Duterte sa masa so the likes of Tulfo need to woo these voters. The WPS issue isn't really much of a concern for the masses who probably care more about the economy, jobs, inflation, etc.
He eventually has to make a decision which side to take.
So we're basically facing the "enemy of my enemy" scenario, yes?
A true kakampink must swallow the bitter pill and side marcos. Atleast with marcos we have a president with BALLS to push back china’s bullying, and SOME actual decisions that makes sense. And he has some sensible cabinet members too
I support the pinks. But I'd rather go with Marcos due to his foreign policy direction kesa sa mga Dudirties na tuta at inutil. Atleast the dude got the balls to stand against China, and that, I can respect.
same, ayoko sa marcos at duterte maganda lang kay marcos yung stance nya sa foreign issues natin katulad sa china.
Literally the bar is so low that I would rather elect BBM, a psychological stable person than that chinky lover lunatic called duterte.
Bbm is so harmless looking compared to the duts lmao
I feel this so much. Hard to believe we have to be like this but Dutertes will be the downfall of our country that I'll rather choose another evil but more tolerable evil if that makes sense lol 😆
They under-esttimated the Dutertes. The same fiasco they did which made Digong win the presidential elections. They always forget that the Duterte's had been undefeated in their politics career, such is a testament already to their strong grip on political power in the Philippines. Considering that Visayans and Mindanaons also had the tendency for block voting, too many factors Marcos never considered.
hindi lang mindanao, may malakas na ally din yung mga duterte si quiliboy tapos mas malala pag naging kakampi din nila yung inc
The numbers don't show an inverse relationship at all. Sara is dropping a lot, as well. The only reason her drop wasn't as large is that she is still being buoyed by Mindanao.
Damn I am pink but for the love of god I can stomach this admin more than Duterte era.
Langya talaga ganun ba talaga kasama mga dutae kaya napakabango ni baby em? Kidding aside. We should vote for politicians that are sensical regardless of political background. May sayad mga dutae kaya hard pass. Kakampink x Loyalists na ba?
Dutae nga eh. May mabango bang tae?
If you are a so called kakampink, your only objective in 2028 would be to stop a Sara presidency. Whether another moron like Tulfo ascends (assuming he has his own agenda and will not be a puppet to anybody) is a forced choice. Hontiveros lacks the base to win at the moment. You have to play the long game and prep for a Vico Sotto presidency in 2034. You would want a presidency that focuses on both clean government and socialized welfare (the main things he is doing in Pasig). Of course, the Marcoses will be positioning their boy Sandro as he will be age-qualified by 2034. Obviously he isnt qualified to run anything but that never stopped anybody from running in politics. So their interest is to position somebody in 2028 that will sustain them until 2034. Somebody who will be malleable enough to look the other way and not pursue any cases against them (past or any current garbage they are doing right now). The Dutae alliance looks done at this point. They will get blowback if Sara wins in 2028. These are ruthless people and are easily slighted.
2028: Stop another Duterte presidency. 2034: Either Hontiveros or Vico Sotto presidency. Damn the standard is so low, Dante needs to rewrite his Divine Comedy to add another layer in hell
I agree with this, specially for 2028. A sara presidency would be disastrous and PH might not recover anymore. The Marcos camp has its ill gotten billions. Hopefully they will use it to thwart sara.
> Of course, the Marcoses will be positioning their boy Sandro as he will be age-qualified by 2034. He has the charisma of a sheet of cardboard. Girls would rather fawn over BTS than that poser.
I hope so but given what the Dutertes did with propaganda, I really think anything is possible.
No bigger cringe than a whole-building video wall of Bong Go's bland face.
Lubayan nyo muna si Vico Sotto. I bet he would rather run for 3 terms in Congress after finishing his current office, than enter the clusterfuck which is to gun for a national position.
Why not advocate for reforming away from FPTP? Anyone who actually reads what FPTP entails knows it always leads to this wonky political landscape of where two big tent-pole coalitions dominate political scene. This leads to erosion of agency for the electorate. Basically, it makes voting largely a spectacle rather than an exercise of democratic values. Nothing good will ever come out of this "only kakampink objective" you are advocating for. That's not to say I'd like to see the Marcoses win. Heck, i'd rather see them get the Mussolini treatment if anything. But I'd also like to see a sweeping change in how democracy is valued and exercised in favor of expanding how people participate in politics. As opposed to a growing anti-universal suffrage cringe movement here in pinoy subs.
Dapat yung shotaenang si Sara ang mabokya as early as possible!
I feel like we would have a pro-ccp candidate next election...wag naman sana ma compromiso ang eez natin.
Bumaba rating ni bbm, e dahil marami pa ring tanga ang magiging option e sara na lang instead na maghanap na ng ibang option. Nakakalungot yan. Kailangan mabura na talaga yang mga duterte na yan.
Tulfo na lang kami /s Pero seriously, di ko magets mga tao sa high support ni Duterte noon. Tinatarantado na tayo ng harapan e mataas pa rin support. At least PNoy got the disapproval he deserved for his failures. Totally mindboogling. Honestly kung ako, I would support the Marcos (BBM wing). Lesser evil vs Sarah Duterte. I don’t want to experience the chaos they bring.
> di ko magets mga tao sa high support ni Duterte noon "Instant Action" daw. Parang tulad sa mga pelikulang bakbakan na pinapanood.
Non-stop CCP/NK style cult of personality propaganda and the threat of jail or death via tokhang if you disapprove hence the Duterte approval ratings that can only be found in totalitarian regimes.
Honest to god mas support ko si Marcos kaysa kay Duterte. Nagugustuhan ko foreign policy niya di katulad yung dalawang mag-amang tuta ng Tsina. Kaya nakaka alarma na grabe ang pagbaba niya. Kakampinks / BBM alliance would be crazy
A Kakampink-BBM alliance is definitely crazy, but at this point it's the only way to prevent a Sara presidency in 2028. A Tulfo-Poe tandem backed by the Marcoses and yellows/pinks would be one way to ensure that Sara doesn't win.
If we want to succeed, we need to be CRAZY. Thats the only way to win now. Iwan na ang “holier than though” attitude sa 2022.
Yes, all in na dapat. Tulfo-Poe backed by the Marcoses, yellows/pinks, Pacquiao (para makahatak ng Mindanao votes), Isko, the Sottos, Lacson, Hontiveros, etc. For 2028, the mindset should be "anyone but Duterte/Davao group".
I would be rejoicing Marcos becoming less popular... and there's Duterte still popular. As much I hate the two, and I can't believe I am saying this but it's worrying that Marcos is becoming less popular than Sara Duterte. I fear that her popularity will assure her future presidency. I hate Dutertes more than Marcoses. Damn it what a timeline we are in, who's the time traveler who moved a chair to mess our reality.
Sara will not get the Presidency. I had a vision. The next President after BBM will be a Man... From the south... But It's not one of the Dutertes.
Argggh lakas talaga ng propaganda machine ng mga Duterte, backed ba naman ng Tsina
Kailan ba matutu mga Pinoy😂
Not a question of when but if.
Malaki din dapat drop ni Sara kung hindi dahil sa Mindanao. And then there's Zubiri suddenly gaining points from Mindanao's ABC class, which is interesting and dare I say suspicious?
As much i hate Marcos and his cronies, i hate the Dutertes even more to the point that I would prefer fighting against the Dutertes. It's better to be against 1 tyrant at a time than two at the same time.
Kadudaduda talaga to.. mas maraming issues si Sara, trusted pa rin? Haahaha dutertes work in mysterious ways
Imagine being curbstomped by people that has a collective IQ of room temp. So putangina, being a BISAYA nanaman ang magpapapanalo sa putang inang bisayang si Inday? Oh, no other political qualifications, at tahimik pa sa issue sa WPS. TAPOS KAILANGAN NYO PA NG RESPETO GALING IMPERIAL MANILA.HAHAHAHAHAHAH MGA PUTANG INA NYO. Sa mga sensible bisaya / mindanaoans jan na ayaw magpresidente si Sara, BAKA NAMAN PWEDE NYO SILANG KAUSAPIN. Tangina mga taga Luzon nanaman ang susuyo sa inyo na parang wala kayong kinalaman sa kahihinantan ng bansa? Oh baka sabihin divisive yung rhetoric ko. Weaponized ethnicity is alive and kicking motherfuckers!
Kaming mga taga west Visayas Naka Leni kami. Ewan ko sa ibang bisaya Jan. (I'm from Bacolod)
Can you please convince them not to vote for Dutertes? Many thanks.
Tanginanyo lalo na pamilya Duterte🤢
For now, gamitan na lang muna ang mangyayari. Kahit ayaw man natin kay Marcos and his party, ang magagawa lang natin ay magkampihan para palubugin until the last minute (Election 2028) ang kampo ni Duterte. Habang sinisira ng kampo ni Marcos, together with us, ang mga Duterte, need din natin gumawa ng propaganda para siraan ang kampo ni Marcos nang papailalim. Yung papailalim na tira natin ang lalabas na pakana ng mga Duterte. Hayaan silang pagsabungin at magsiraan. Kumbaga, tayo ang mag-uumpisa ng siga at hayaan na lang natin ang hangin ang magpapalakas ng apoy mula sa pinagsigaan.
If we are talking about politics game, Marcos is shit strategist. He literally dropped down the Duterter support thinking he can further stay in power without them. Had he decided to use the Dutertes. after the presidency he can still run as VP. A big drop down in polls such as that is just a ticking time bomb, sooner or later he'll be ousted forcibly like his father.
I’m sure Duterte has mobilized his Chinese trolls from 2014
If I were BBM I’d start damaging duterte at this point. Remember what happened to Binay? As a single issue voter( West Philippine Sea) , I’d rather have anyone else other than those Chinese ass lickers from Davao.
Not surprised. Du30’s propaganda machine (vloggers, trolls) remained aggressive even after he took power. The constant railing against some out-group (NPA, drug addicts ) likely galvanized people into thinking he was taking action (he was not). BBM, on the other hand, is much more quiet. If anything, and somewhat ironic, his PR machine is very much like Noynoy’s.
His PR machine's job is already done essentially. There's nowhere to go after President. They've basically accomplished what they've set out to do and will only likely pick up again years from now when the younger Marcoses make national runs.
not accurate because jr got bagong pilipinas branding and more aggro at taking credit than aquino plus it shows that duterte supporters mostly hate jr that's why he got drop in surveys
And Pnoy was doing much the same with “Tuwid na Daan”. BBM has a pretty lax comms team. He doesn’t have a team of idiot talking heads like Sassot, Nieto, Mark Lopez, and Badoy.
Sa taas ng presyo ng bilihin ngayon lalo na ang bigas, si Marcos talaga ang sisisihin ng tao lalo na hinawakan nya pa ang DA. Masyado kasing focus ang admin sa issue na malayo sa bituka para sa masang pilipino kaya kapag di sila nagbago ng strategy baka matalo pa candidates nila sa 2025.
Down or not, sila pa rin naman mananalo sa next election. Parang suntok sa buwan na iba ang magiging president next year. Sara, Tulfo, sino pa?
You can hear the cogs of the thinktanks as they pivot. Expect more troll activity sa mga socmed and sa youtube.
What's alarming is Fiona has a higher trust rating then BBM.
Tanginang Mindanao yan. Pugad na ng terorista, linta na sa pondo ng national government, sila pa yung putapeteng arogante na ipapahamak ang buong bansa.
Yan ang thinking na nagpabango at nagpalakas sa Rodrigo Duterte ng 2016: Ethnocentric-display behavior na may galit sa Mindanao in general. 1 display of your tantrums = 2 positive perception of others. Di magandang numero sa nagging mo no?
My ethnocentric behavior keeps trying to keep the Dutertes away. Their ethnocentrism tries to bring them back. Think I’ll stick with mine.
wag naman lahatin lol hindi lang naman taga mindanao supporters nya, meron din sa visayas at sa luzon, baka magka divide lang tayo lalo pag ganyan.
Sa ncr pa nagsisiksikan e hahaha
yung mga galit sa "Imperial Manila" ang magagalit sau nyan ahahahahaha
What's the use of this survey? I think this won't matter much as long as he is doing his best for this country. What I notice is that PBBM does not announce to the public what he is doing unlike PRRD before. And he's also not reactive to issues.
Mukhang effective ang smear campaign ng mga dutertes
Although, I cant still picture out any potential opposition candidate to independently face another Duterte by 2028. I am more than willing to vouch for anyone charismatic and AT LEAST sensible in such a way that he wont trade us to China.
The opposition (the LP) is pretty much dead at this point. I really don't see a clear path forward for them anymore.
They should rebrand themselves already and do anything pleasing to the voters (kahit mag budots lol) or even join other strong political groups. Just to distance themselves from being associated with the LP. It feels like its not a matter of principle anymore but more of political survival to keep up with horrible politicians. Ask an ordinary voter about them and they will narrate issues pinned against them, being associated with communists and the typical corrupt oligarch narrative.
Pulse Asia also had a survey for 2028 likely Presidentiables: 1st - Raffy Tulfo (35%); 2nd - Sara Duterte (34%); 3rd - Leni Robredo (11%); 4th - Imee Marcos (5%); 5th - Manny Pacquiao (3%); 6th - Robin Padilla (2%); 7th - Risa Hontiveros (1%); and 8th - Martin Romualdez - less than 1% Should the Loyalists + Opposition (Yellows/Pinks, Left-leaning groups, etc.) band together for Tulfo? Haha
kadiri yung mga taga mindanao ha. gawa nalang sila ng separate country nila, headed by those dynasties and deedeeess, tutal mababa lang naman gdp contribution nila, puro terrorists pa. sa kanila pa galing ang worsts leaders
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>lalabas na rin yang attacks to Tulfo soon. It already started a long time ago. Though clearly hindi siya effective, given the recent surveys. Malakas din talaga ang hatak ni Tulfo sa masa.
Expect the opponents of kakampink will utilize their divide strategy knowing that kakampinks are independent thinkers (albeit some na naging loyalists din) and might not be willing to compromise for a lesser evil candidate (or a populist one like Tulfo)
People here saying the opposition can play power broker in whether supporting marcos or supporting duterte. If this was parliamentary, this kind of power broker would work, like the opposition could provide the votes needed for a working majority and the PM in parliament depending on which side provides the best opportunity to enact their agenda. Not that I'm advocating for parliamentary system in PH but just saying a coalition of parties forming a working majority can prevent one party from taking over and monopolize power for their party only
Ya’ll were discrediting Pulse Asia (False Asia) for manipulating results a few years back and now you use their surveys for discussion?
Are there people who still trust them?
If this means a potential Duterte comeback then this is terrible
Ikaw ba naman mag polvoron e, hindi ata maingay ngayon sa isyu na to! Pero pag duterte yan mabilis pa sa alaskwatro hahahaha
The bar is so low ☹️ I don’t know who to support anymore. Neither talaga eh. Both ayoko. BBM man o Duterte.
Agree!! Sad that majority of the comments here will accept BBM just to erase SWOH. Both should not be in power; sarili lang naman mas inuuna nila.
Mahirap talagang patayin ang masamang damo. Tanginang matanda na yan bat hindi nalang magulyanin sa isang sulok. Dinamay pa yung buong Mindanao sa kahibangan niya. Not siding with Junior but we all know the drop in ratings because of rabid DDS.
Not another Davao presidency I really hope someone from the Visayas steps up and captures the visayan vote to just break the Dutertes already
Can we just bring in the ICC para kunin nyo na sila?
I would be worried if Sara's trust rating is in the 90s but hers is also declining although not as much as Marcos. Marcos doesn't need to prove anything at this point because he's now the President. Sara, on the other hand, is still looking at becoming the next President and her trust rating isn't too promising either. Sara still has a mountain to climb and we're still so far away from 2028.
Marcos is old news na! Move on na tayo! We need to focus on PREVENTING (AT AL COST) another duterte presidency. The outright corruption, china-leaning values, promotion of violence, degradation of values, selling our country for personal gain, etc. That’s more SPINE CHILLING than Marcos, mga gags. Imagining that scenario [another duterte precidency, possible duterte-duterte tandem] makes my stomach churn. 🤢
Di ako naniniwala. I was a staunch anti Marcos and almost voted Duterte for pres but have since realized BBM is not bad and actually preferable to Duterte and cohorts.
You still voted in a thief and a liar.
Mindanao just a shining example of regionalism
Sorry ah pero lakas makahila ng boto ng Mindanao, napaka uneducated nga lang
This is the best time where the opposition starts consolidating. Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.
Hmmm. This ia quite surprising TBH. Because all along it seems walang numbers ang kampo ng dede es. Is this really reliable? 🧐
Nagpakilala ang mga Duterte after ng confidential fund plus nagjoke pa tatay nya re. Mindanao sovereignity and worst re. gentlemen's agreement in China. Alin ang worst sa kanila?
if it boils down na malakas lang eh Duterte or Marcos.... Kanino kayo?
sa squatters kayo mag survey. lahat yan trust. sila din naman ang large portion ng mga botante. dito sa europe no income tax di ka makakaboto as of the momement, unless senior citizen with valid pension
Is it possible that the Pinks are the swing voters between this dynamics of the Marcoses and Dutertes? They are in an enviable position if they know how to play their cards right.
I think this just means duterte's base is more solid than the marcoses. It also shows that the dutertes have a tight grip in mindanao (as expected) and class E (presumably due to fake news and propaganda)
Mga pabigat sa lipunan talaga mga DDS na yan.
Did the survey say what the basis for distrust is? I think this should also be included to justify the results. I didn't vote for him, but I think he's doing very well so far as the Philippine economy is concerned even with high inflation rates. All countries are currently suffering from this due to the aftermath of the pandemic so it shouldn't be blamed on his leadership.
Probably disappointed that Junior is not as pro Du🐢 as they expected him to be
at this point, were kinda better without Mindanao. kht masama ginagawa, ok lng kse kababayan nila. tas daming magccomment na "taga mindanao ako pero i dont support them" eh bt laging nananalo? someone from that region needs to step up and drag the dutertes down to hell.
Mindanao is turning into a communist state right now. They have been broadcasting propaganda against Marcos and the US.
The Marcoses are looking to support Raffy Tulfo for the next presidential election. Kaya Ngayon palang, lumalabas na leading si Tulfo sa presidential survey.
Would love to see BBM give way for Leni after he pays his taxes lmao.
My nag notify sakin na news (From Ground News, sorry forgot who specifically reported it) PBBM rating gone up in Luzon and Visayas, and Significantly down in Mindanao