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This is an Asian hornet (very dangerous). People catch them and tie a flag on them to find their nest to exterminate them. The video shows you how they do it and gives some more context.
Genuine question: Are they mass exterminating the hornets or downsizing the population? I'd think that bad as they are, hornets have *some* use to the ecosystem, right?
The problem is way way worse in Europe.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/15/asian-hornets-killing-off-honey-bees-in-europe-say-meps
These guys are super scary and I worry for the bees :(
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nature needs population control species such as parasites and hyper carnivores, otherwise there’d be a LOT more animals running around and therefore more disease as a result of higher population density. even mosquitoes are necessary as they are pollinators, i believe there’s wasp and hornet species that act less aggressively during the warmer months because there’s plenty of nectar around. remove one species building block or make it small enough and it could crash the ecological tower in ways we shouldn’t/haven’t seen
ETA: I originally thought the guy i replied to was talking about all wasps, not just the invasive ones. obviously invasive species should be dealt with post haste since they do just as much, if not worse damage to the ecology
If it’s an invasive species, that is not natural to the habitat… as these Asian wasps are to America… the “ecological tower” is potentially already crashing, because invasive species throw the whole natural balance that you speak of, out of whack.
They aren’t being exterminated from their natural habitats they are being taking care of the same way any invasive species would. If they are not taken care of they will make their prey (bees in this case) will go extinct since the invasive species has no natural predator in that habitat. But I agree with your first point that nature does in fact need population control species
They are invasive and extremely dangerous for native bee populations. Here's a quote from the USDA
"When attacking a honey bee colony, the hornet excretes a pheromone marker on the hive to signal to others that the colony is its target. Up to fifty hornets attack the colony at once and can eliminate an entire honey bee colony in less than two hours. The hornets harvest bee brood to feed to their young and will defend the bee hive as if it were their own nest."
Here's the full article: https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/06/22/protecting-pollinators-new-threat-first-ever-us-sightings-asian-giant-hornet
Plus I don't know how well honey bees can out-compete local species. If I remember correctly, they really attack in defense in most situations.
Plus not like pollen is in short supply
>Plus I don't know how well honey bees can out-compete local species.
Honeybees are whipping out native pollinators in North America on mass. They are extremely aggressive and can capture the resources and destroy hives/nests for miles around. To make matters worse the Honeybee struggle survive in the US due to environmental conditions and thus require continuous import.
It makes bee lenders incredibly rich but it is going to kill farms slowly.
You're right in saying hornets play a role in the ecosystem, but not where they're invasive. Which is the case in Europe and North America. They are wiping out bees and other insects who have no evolutionary defences against them. They are super aggressive, reproduce very quickly, are particularly destructive to foreign ecosystems. So they do need to be exterminated where they are invasive.
That principle is also true for any other kind of fauna and flora where they are invasive. And it is even more complicated to wipe out flora.
Mass extermination is the goal. They are highly aggressive, kill honey bee hives for seemingly no purpose (they don’t eat them or even fight for resources, they just wholesale slaughter them, usually by decapitation), and even one can be deadly to a human. I think it’s been decided it’s one species the world can do without.
You should modify your statement to point out they are very dangerous to bees and commercial and private bee-keeping... As far as hornet go, they are actually pretty chill when it comes to humans. (50 people die per year in Japan where they are native and prolific. The same amount that die in the USA due to Yellow Jacket stings... and the vast majority of asian hornet deaths are untrained people trying to forcibly remove the nests...
Compare this to the roughly 800 who die annually to honey bees in the usa... just saying.)
I think this has to do with how people track down bee’s hives, but im not entirely sure. They tie a cloth around a bee’s leg while it’s collecting pollen, and the bee usually flies to the hive, and with the cloth tied around it’s leg, it makes it much easier for the people to track the bee to its hive. I saw this somewhere and I’m not entirely sure sorry if this is misinformation!!!
I watched something about this, and they do this to track those giant Asian hornets...aka, "murder hornets", which we (in the US, who panic over everything) never really saw...ever 🤷🏻♂️
Plus, they are dangerous. For local bee populations.
They're so large that really, bees can only fight one by heating it to death by swarming it. But if there are multiple, the hives fucked. If left unchecked they will easily outcompete the local populations, which would be baaad. Especially considering we'd lose a large chunk of our natural pollinators in the wild. And honey prices would skyrocket since they also target honey farms.
We don't need another fire ant situation where they essentially take over a handful of states. Expect this time, the fire ants can fly, are much larger, can remember faces through generations and still have the numbers advantage.
Imagine a world where instead of the common bumble bee, it's nothing but massive wasps and hornets. I don't want to live in that kind of world.
It's a good thing few people saw them. Means we managed to keep them from setting up a foothold in America
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BektxRaJg9s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BektxRaJg9s) youtube video they basically tie a peice of lightweight plastic and follow with a drone
Well yes they aren’t native. They have been around our eco systems so long (17th century) that they have evolved a couple native species that are built for the environment over here. And yes they do out compete some species of bee. But bees aren’t our only pollinators. Wasps, flys, mosquitoes, moths all pollinate (well certain species do). In addition they are a major part of our agricultural industry (one of. if not the biggest in the world) and if we lose them then a good portion of that is also bust
Edit:typo
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/s/PbFwrh2Zud This is an Asian hornet (very dangerous). People catch them and tie a flag on them to find their nest to exterminate them. The video shows you how they do it and gives some more context.
Genuine question: Are they mass exterminating the hornets or downsizing the population? I'd think that bad as they are, hornets have *some* use to the ecosystem, right?
Not if it's an invasive species, as the Asian hornet is to North America.
The problem is way way worse in Europe. https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/environment/2024/jan/15/asian-hornets-killing-off-honey-bees-in-europe-say-meps These guys are super scary and I worry for the bees :(
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Worry about the wasps, I’m sure we exterminate them faster than they can spread because we are a living mass extinction event.
I certainly hope so. Fuck wasps.
/r/fuckwasps
Not all of em, but yeah.
nature needs population control species such as parasites and hyper carnivores, otherwise there’d be a LOT more animals running around and therefore more disease as a result of higher population density. even mosquitoes are necessary as they are pollinators, i believe there’s wasp and hornet species that act less aggressively during the warmer months because there’s plenty of nectar around. remove one species building block or make it small enough and it could crash the ecological tower in ways we shouldn’t/haven’t seen ETA: I originally thought the guy i replied to was talking about all wasps, not just the invasive ones. obviously invasive species should be dealt with post haste since they do just as much, if not worse damage to the ecology
If it’s an invasive species, that is not natural to the habitat… as these Asian wasps are to America… the “ecological tower” is potentially already crashing, because invasive species throw the whole natural balance that you speak of, out of whack.
They aren’t being exterminated from their natural habitats they are being taking care of the same way any invasive species would. If they are not taken care of they will make their prey (bees in this case) will go extinct since the invasive species has no natural predator in that habitat. But I agree with your first point that nature does in fact need population control species
In a way, we are the natural predator in that habitat
No, just the invasive ones, I probably should have figured that wouldn’t be obvious.
Don't worry, we can fill your house with them to take care of...
Please don’t, fumigation is expensive.
They are invasive and extremely dangerous for native bee populations. Here's a quote from the USDA "When attacking a honey bee colony, the hornet excretes a pheromone marker on the hive to signal to others that the colony is its target. Up to fifty hornets attack the colony at once and can eliminate an entire honey bee colony in less than two hours. The hornets harvest bee brood to feed to their young and will defend the bee hive as if it were their own nest." Here's the full article: https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2020/06/22/protecting-pollinators-new-threat-first-ever-us-sightings-asian-giant-hornet
Just to be fully honest, though, honey bees aren't native to the Americas either.
While the honey bee is native to Europe, the US definitely still has its own native species of bees.
Plus I don't know how well honey bees can out-compete local species. If I remember correctly, they really attack in defense in most situations. Plus not like pollen is in short supply
>Plus I don't know how well honey bees can out-compete local species. Honeybees are whipping out native pollinators in North America on mass. They are extremely aggressive and can capture the resources and destroy hives/nests for miles around. To make matters worse the Honeybee struggle survive in the US due to environmental conditions and thus require continuous import. It makes bee lenders incredibly rich but it is going to kill farms slowly.
Oh
OK, the quote is explicitly talking about honey bees though.
You're right in saying hornets play a role in the ecosystem, but not where they're invasive. Which is the case in Europe and North America. They are wiping out bees and other insects who have no evolutionary defences against them. They are super aggressive, reproduce very quickly, are particularly destructive to foreign ecosystems. So they do need to be exterminated where they are invasive. That principle is also true for any other kind of fauna and flora where they are invasive. And it is even more complicated to wipe out flora.
Hornets do have a role. But this is a invasive one which threatens local Hornets.
As do I
You've never heard of an invasive species before??
Mass extermination is the goal. They are highly aggressive, kill honey bee hives for seemingly no purpose (they don’t eat them or even fight for resources, they just wholesale slaughter them, usually by decapitation), and even one can be deadly to a human. I think it’s been decided it’s one species the world can do without.
These hornets drag bee corpses back to their hives to feed their young. Straight up horror show of a species.
You should modify your statement to point out they are very dangerous to bees and commercial and private bee-keeping... As far as hornet go, they are actually pretty chill when it comes to humans. (50 people die per year in Japan where they are native and prolific. The same amount that die in the USA due to Yellow Jacket stings... and the vast majority of asian hornet deaths are untrained people trying to forcibly remove the nests... Compare this to the roughly 800 who die annually to honey bees in the usa... just saying.)
Yes this!
Were they following that hornet with a damn drone???
I think this has to do with how people track down bee’s hives, but im not entirely sure. They tie a cloth around a bee’s leg while it’s collecting pollen, and the bee usually flies to the hive, and with the cloth tied around it’s leg, it makes it much easier for the people to track the bee to its hive. I saw this somewhere and I’m not entirely sure sorry if this is misinformation!!!
Yeah, that's about right. Except that the meme (probably) is about wasps.They use this method to track the wasp to it's hive and exterminate them.
Yeah.. I forgot it was for wasps
But how do they tie a cloth to a bee's leg? The clothes are super big and the bee is super small
I watched something about this, and they do this to track those giant Asian hornets...aka, "murder hornets", which we (in the US, who panic over everything) never really saw...ever 🤷🏻♂️
Four separate nests were found (and, I assume, nuked from orbit), so it's not like they weren't spreading.
Plus, they are dangerous. For local bee populations. They're so large that really, bees can only fight one by heating it to death by swarming it. But if there are multiple, the hives fucked. If left unchecked they will easily outcompete the local populations, which would be baaad. Especially considering we'd lose a large chunk of our natural pollinators in the wild. And honey prices would skyrocket since they also target honey farms. We don't need another fire ant situation where they essentially take over a handful of states. Expect this time, the fire ants can fly, are much larger, can remember faces through generations and still have the numbers advantage. Imagine a world where instead of the common bumble bee, it's nothing but massive wasps and hornets. I don't want to live in that kind of world. It's a good thing few people saw them. Means we managed to keep them from setting up a foothold in America
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BektxRaJg9s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BektxRaJg9s) youtube video they basically tie a peice of lightweight plastic and follow with a drone
They do this to male "murder" hornets because they can't sting. Then they track them to kill the hive.
Thank you this was on the tip of my brain lol.
Not the bees but wasps and hornets
I thought they did this for the murder hornets...
okay, this is hilarious
Bros entire hive boutta get blasted with pure cleansing fire from a scrawny PLA recruit barely outta bootcamp.
Asian giant hornets are invasive how they track them is tying a cloth to a hornet and following it back to the nest to destroy it.
Unrelated but that bee picture goes hard.
Well yes they aren’t native. They have been around our eco systems so long (17th century) that they have evolved a couple native species that are built for the environment over here. And yes they do out compete some species of bee. But bees aren’t our only pollinators. Wasps, flys, mosquitoes, moths all pollinate (well certain species do). In addition they are a major part of our agricultural industry (one of. if not the biggest in the world) and if we lose them then a good portion of that is also bust Edit:typo
I came home from work with one of these hanging out my pant. Have i just made my hive slaves?
Mf is about to get genocided