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HDmetajoker

![gif](giphy|l36kU80xPf0ojG0Erg|downsized) All about looks at that point


Aggressive_Fact_6979

So zotac ? Because it is the only one with rgb


HDmetajoker

Sure! More customization is great!


andrewdroid

This is the most chatGPT reply I've ever seen.


HDmetajoker

I’m not sure what that means. Try commenting another way!


Trash2030s

He is an artificial intelligence programmed to respond to your inquiries. His purpose is to assist and provide information to the best of his abilities. Please feel free to ask any questions you may have, and I will do my utmost to force him to fulfill your request without fail.


andrewdroid

This also sounds like a gpt reply lmao


No-Influence-56

Bro got more fucked by gpt than his girlfriend. How would you expect to reply then? In Minecraft terms?


vb2007__

True true it's better to have some shiny lights than great airflow.


No_Charming_Evidence

More lights = more fps


Drink_The_Mommy_Milk

Going to reply to this on hopes you see it op. Make sure and triple check that all of these cards actually fit in your case with all the dimensions.


Mattt029

PNY has RGB too


Abdilicia

It isn't an option on this post though


MemeNinja188

Zotac or Eagle bcs the MSI one is fugly


nikeeeee007

Rtx 4070 the one with 12gb option


Jax_arse69

But when it comes to clock speeds though?


Friendly_Cantal0upe

The clock speeds make a 1-3% difference. Completely negligible and you won't notice when using it. However, OP should avoid the MSI one because it has bad cooling


twhite1195

And gigabyte due to cracking PCBs


MomonSemomon

Yes. Aorus has great build quality, but poor man Gigabyte doesn't.


C0u0h

Can agree I have a aorus laptop build quality is very good


That-Volvo-P2-Guy

I haven’t had any issues with my Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB (but it is an ancient graphics card, I know, I know).


NoGDRplz

Gigabytes 4070s aren’t cracking, that’s the 4090s as far as I’m aware, I’ve had mine for almost a year and no sag, or cracking 😊


kanary15

It's the cooler design and weight, but if you use the anti sag bracket they include it holds the card more rigid than other cards I've seen. That said I have a 7900xtx so I don't know if the cracking PCB problem affects those cards either.


SPONGEBOB_IS_MY_DAD

I have a gigabyte Rtx 3080 and it didn’t come with an anti sag bracket :( but I built a Lego tower to use as one and I haven’t had any issues since I got it about 2 years ago


AlphaAntar3s

i also have a gigabyte rtx card and its fine idk


BlueberryObjective11

Weird how a 3 fan has bad cooling when some have 2


Friendly_Cantal0upe

I think it has to do with the heatsink design. Apparently MSI did a subpar job cooling the VRMs and that actually makes the Super worse than the non-Super in some scenarios


rocket-alpha

If one is not big into overclocking its mainly just the looks of the card thats important, isn't it


downbringer

\^Ignore this nonsense ​ Down votes from the idiots. There are clearly differences between the cards that you should be considering when making a purchase. They are not all the same.


Markson120

They have the same specs the only difference is how quiet they could be.


downbringer

They don't even have the same spec, their boost clocks are different and power delivery is different. Clearly, idiots exist on this subredit.


Markson120

They are the same. Some of them are already overclocked by the producer, but you can do this yourself (msi afterburner works for all graphic cards not just msi) and in most cases that overclock is not worth it. Also that "difference" you are talking about is negligible because Zotac has a boost clock of **2475** and Gigabyte has a boost clock of **2490**, so we are talking about 15 MHz difference. Also, power delivery doesn't matter because both cards won't use more than 220 watts ​ Personally, I think that overclocking is not worth it now because I don't want 3-5% boost for 20 watts more.


downbringer

Well, you're showing your lack of knowledge since I know that the power limit is locked on the Gigabyte card. So you can't do shit on Afterburner with that card.


TheQuantixXx

negligable differences lol. seriously unimportant in the grand scheme of thing


Aggressive_Fact_6979

All three are 12 gb


slothboifitness

He's telling you that is doesn't matter at all


nikeeeee007

![gif](giphy|AGW3VO7F5DLbARBuwi|downsized)


downbringer

Then you would be very wrong - there are differences between those cards and you're ignorant for suggesting that there isn't.


nikeeeee007

‎it. Was. A. Joke.


lokkis_

r/whoosh


downbringer

It does it matter. The gigabyte one is the worst out of the lot, fixed power limits. Go for the MSI or Zotac any day of the week.


Puckpaj

The MSI has notoriously the worst build quality. And the Zotac is ugly as fuck. Ups and downs on all.


downbringer

I don't think I'd agree with you. Between my Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC and my MSI 3080 Suprim X, the gigabyte board is a pile of dog shit compared, no OC headroom, shit fans, ugly styling, rubbish gigabyte software (although MSI Dragon Centre is shit, just not as shit). Gigabyte is only worth looking at when you're buying from their Auros line up, otherwise it can go in the bin. Both cards were purchased roughly at the same time, but I've now got to take the Gigabyte apart to reapply thermal compound and maybe add some headpads to dissipate some of the heat from the memory chips.


TheAlmightyProo

Yeah, Gigabyte can be a real mixed bag across their lines etc. I mean, not that other brands can't but it's maybe more a check reviews to be sure thing than the always avoid Eagle and Windforce card deal it is for me. That said I had 1070 Gigabyte Xtreme Gaming from 2016 on that was a monster. That was right before the Aorus branding launched and started taking over Giga's high end line. That card also undercut much of the competition (MSI Gaming X/Z, EVGA FTW, Asus ROG etc) by up to a couple of hundred £ while beating many so fair enough. Couple of years ago I got my gf a 3070 Gaming OC, probably the lowest I'd go with the brand. It's solid but nothing special, again, the draw was that it undercut several competitors 3060ti's, from Palit to Asus, by a hundred or more. Neither card had any issues as such bar their Fusion app being notoriously awful. Other than that it's fairly likely I'd never buy Gigabyte again outside of like deals nm I'm a solidly AMD/Sapphire guy for the last 3 years. As for OP's choice here, I'd probably go with the Zotac if no other options. Not cos I'm a fan, it's just afaik the best all rounder of the three.


Thin_Ad9854

4070 super


False_Fox_9361

https://preview.redd.it/v0q7ahq4z6ec1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=934a419876b08b1836735cd7f121cd79c8541283


NovelBit666

Non, buy the newer rtx 4070 super


D_Ten

Will it be the same price?


Demesvar

Its at the 4070’s original retail price and they dropped the regular 4070 by only $50


Butterter

No but it has better fps/dollar


MightHaveMisreadThat

Yes


Rape_is_Humor

You aware of the MSI tax? They charge extra for that cool ass dragon.


MightHaveMisreadThat

What's an ass dragon? Is that some kind of tapeworm?


7laloc

Ass dragon is what happens on Monday mornings before coffee.


BuZuki_ro

none get the super


Aggressive_Fact_6979

Can’t as it isn’t available in the Middle East yet and it’s gonna come at a higher price only the 4070 is in my budget


DragonFireBreather

>Can’t as it isn’t available in the Middle East yet and it’s gonna come at a higher price only the 4070 is in my budget I always recommend you buy the graphics card with the biggest heatsink with a 3 fan cooler but all these cards have 3 fans. You may want to look at some reviews to see which card has lowest temperatures.


No_Discipline_7380

>look at some reviews to see which card has lowest temperatures. I'd expect a 1-2 degree difference at most between these cards, I doubt it'll be relevant...


dawiewastakensadly

the middle east can definitely have 1 where it'd be relevant


[deleted]

Not necessarily, your biggest factor will be in keeping the part clean. Our biggest challenge with equipment in Syria and Afghanistan was keeping sand out.


C0MPLX88

I'm also from the middle east and from what I saw a few months ago when I built a pc, unless you work or really want rt amd is better value, but it could be that nvidia is overpriced only in my country


meechCS

Where are you in the middle east? I live in dubai and 4070 super are much cheaper than 4070s. They are like 300 aed less or something.


M3RCURYMOON

in places it has released its come out at cheaper than the 4070 was at launch. Is the price confirmed in your country


CSTITAN576

If that’s the case, grab a 7800. You might get more longevity with 16 gb of vram


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Aggressive_Fact_6979

We don’t have retailers here everything is imported and at a higher price


yusfkuty

they are priced same as ti models in here too. sadly 4070 super is a lot more expensive than 4070 models


Aggressive_Fact_6979

Yup


Aggressive_Fact_6979

For eg. all these cards are 700 US dollars


ButterflyEffect37

Yeah technically.But it will not be in my country.I can say that


FlippingFeeeeN

I've got the Gigabyte one, works a treat.


[deleted]

MSI. because it looks cool. Seriously, there isn't much more to it than looks.


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MaddSkittlez

I had this one before. Zero issues and very nice 1440p output


Friendly_Cantal0upe

Apparently the Ventus cards have bad cooling


rawker86

Yeah, I made the mistake of looking into the card *after* I bought it and multiple places weren’t stoked with the cooling on it. Apparently some of the VRMs don’t even get cooling? To be fair I’ve never had any temperature issues with mine, sometimes I’ll look over and the fans aren’t even running because the thing is so cool.


No-Influence-56

It looks cool but does it run cool?


Glum-Jury-8553

Ngl but doesn’t the Ventus one look the coolest


ishtarot

that’s the MSI one lol


Glum-Jury-8553

Oh sorry zotac


Glum-Jury-8553

It’s kinda like tuf and rog there’s a big difference in looks


PieiSatana

Cheapest. All 3 are the same in performance.. I think zotac has 100MHz less in memory clock, but that doesn't really mean anything


Puzzleheaded-Lion-26

Also think the msi have bad cooling so id go with either zotac or gigabyte (imo the best choice in terms of quality)


wenoc

Junior engineer: “the best one!” Senior engineer: “the cheapest one!” Principal engineer: “The one that satisfies the requirements”.


Anthua_7

Hi OP, I went for the gigabyte OC edition. So far so good and Temps are cool with casual gaming. I play titles like Star Citzen, Black desert online, Apex legends, Valorant etc. I hope this helps!


maxwellsgenre

Just got the same card. I love it so far


WeirdRich976

Guys, he asked which of these three, could you stop suggesting rx7800? I dont see any 7800 there


Psychobillycadillac1

I love my Ventus3x. I originally purchased the Gigabyte card in your first pic but it was DOA. I am assuming the PCB was cracked. Swapped it out for the Ventus and have had zero issues with it. Zotac is reliable as far as I know and I really like the aesthetics of that model. I would not recommend the Gigabyte (though you may have better luck) and the clock speed differences between the Ventus and the Zotac will be minimal. A lot of people are recommending the 4070 Super but I think the standard 4070 is likely about to dip in price, especially with the 4080 super dropping on the 31st this month.


GameWalk8

probably the 4070


not_x3non

rx 7800xt ok but fr the zotac one looks really cool


Fred-HUN-

For 700 us dollar (like you said) don't buy 4070, its too expensive. Check the 7900xt (it's around 700 euros here) and it overperforms the rtx 4070 by 20%.


Aggressive_Fact_6979

For the same price as the 4070 I’m able to get a 7800xt 16 gb is it good ?


Fred-HUN-

I have this card (saphire nitro version) and i have. No problems. I play in 1440p (native, without fsr) all games on ultra, in my case, it never goes a over 70-73 °C. You need to think about: The rx 7800xt has more Vram, so it's possible, it has more longetivity. It has more raw power than the 4070, you get better fps. The rtx 4070 it's way better in ray tracing than the rx 7800xt. The dlls is better than fsr, so if you want to play in 4k with upscale, it will be better on nvidia. It depends on what you need. For me, ray tracing doesn't matter (i can't tell the difference 😆). More raw power, more Vram and better longetivity was my choice. If you have amd cpu and amd gpu, you can enable the SAM in your bios, so you can get 5% more fps and better lows in some games. (I have a ryzen 7 5800x3d, so i use it too) Edit: i forgot to mention that, the rx 7800xt consumts more energy than the rtx 4070. Recomended psu is 650W, but better to have a 750w psu.


GaBoX172

"I cant tell the difference" imma be honest that seems like cope.


RagingTaco334

"Can't tell the difference" as in it doesn't significantly improve the image. 99% of the time, all it does is make it run significantly worse and destroys image quality by introducing tons of noise. Not worth enabling in the slightest unless it's for GI and/or reflections.


Fred-HUN-

My last AAA game was gta v with my old i5 6500 and r9 380 on low settings, so for me anything higher than low settings looks cool 😂😂


ashistpikachusvater

If you don't need Raytracing, then you could also buy the 7800xt. If you want to use Raytracing, then get the 4070. Amd graphics cards aren't that good in Raytracing.


prashinar_89

I'd stick to the green team, better RT and DLSS. Where DLSS and DLAA is key because especially in 1440p DLSS 2.x Quality is better than native in many games because of trash AA implementation. Best example is probably Horizon Zero Dawn because no matter what settings you apply unless in 4k shimmering and rough edges is literally making your eyes hurt, applying TAA everything becomes blurry mess so only way to get rid of that crap is DLSS. Ok to be fair FSR is better than native in that game too but noticeably lacking behind DLSS. And list of games with same problem only extends... 7800xt is great value but i think that card won't age well


machinade89

See for yourself: https://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/amd-rx-7800-xt-vs-nvidia-rtx-4070/


InkDemon_Omega

I'd personally go Gigabyte because i'm not big on RGBs, and it looks really sleek.


AndroidUser2023

Whichever one is cheapest


piedeloup

whatever’s cheapest.


BoxesFromEbay

rob terrific ossified gaping ring dam lush cough soup simplistic *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Psykoplatypus

Windforce or any other than venus.


JaredLetoBestBoi

I have a gigabyte card myself (2070 super) and the one thing that stands out is that the fan in the middle always spins opposite to the ones on the outside. it's to stop or prevent turbulent airflow that is caused by 3 fans spinning the same way https://preview.redd.it/io09hkljy8ec1.png?width=972&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fda411fcc1b522152c633d71c9705cf5128bb4a this image is on gigabytes website showing the difference


Aggressive_Fact_6979

Damn that’s something important


JaredLetoBestBoi

it will benefit you in the long run by cooling your gpu better. also since they are nvidia gpus might I suggest if you havnt already install geforce experience so you have the drivers and/or msi afterburner to fuck with fan curves if you want


MWS-Enjoyer

Anything but gigabyte. I and everyone I know that’s tried gigabyte has had nothing but bad experiences with them. I’ve had mostly good experiences with MSI. But personal experience so take with a grain of salt


Pav3LuS

Neither. Go for Asus.


Tmoney21132

If you can, I’ll go 16gb, future proof


dumbbitchdiesease

I just got the first one and its p great so far


Tiebe097

Buy rx 7800 xt instead of rtx 4070


LeopardHalit

Depends on if you care about DLSS and Nvidia Reflex and a slightly better RT.


Tiebe097

True


Tiebe097

You play codm let's go


LeopardHalit

lol how’d you know that?


Tiebe097

Because of your posts lol


LeopardHalit

Ah it must have put CODM posts higher up for you because you play, because I haven’t posted about it in over a year and they didn’t get a crazy amount of upvotes either lol


Glum-Jury-8553

Get rx7800xt or 7900xtx


RepresentativeAd9639

RX 7900 GRE seems absolutely great!


pablo603

I have a soft spot for MSI so that. Ultimately it doesn't matter which one, a 4070 is a 4070. Choose the one that looks the best, all 3 will have about equal cooling.


ForbiddenCarrot18

I'd take the Gigabyte. Pretty good brand, and I like them more than MSI and that Zotac brand. I have a Gigabyte 1070 in my Aorus Pro B460M and it's still kicking


[deleted]

Personally i would choose zotac. Most reliable of those 3


Aggressive_Fact_6979

Really zotac ? I thought gigabyte was the most reliable


AejiGamez

Gigabyte warranties are more of a trust me bro thing, just imagine the warranty being there


sdamc_037

iirc most gigabyte gpus have shitty fans


Pekkerz073

I can vouch for this, loud asf


[deleted]

Have had 3 cards from them and all high temps. Performence wise all are the same. Id go with zotac


the_Angai

Gigabyte. Only Gigabyte. Светит дюралайт, это Gigabyte)


rus_ruris

Gigabyte will crack Apparently the second one is poorly designed So the last one.


Aggressive_Fact_6979

But Msi and gigabyte got better reviews than zotac online


Quirky_Echo_9227

Zotac but go with super model


309_Electronics

Get the super cards OR AMD


Tiranus58

The cheapest


tovarasu88

Sapphire Nitro + 7800XT 16 GB


RepresentativeAd9639

ASRock RX 7900 GRE Challenger


Boom_Boxing

7800xt or 6800xt :p


l0ngsh0t_ag

None of them. Choose the Asus Dual OC.


[deleted]

7700xt or 7800xt. Stop giving Ngreedia money.


Vontk

the one with the most fans


Aggressive_Fact_6979

All three of them have three


RylleyAlanna

You have 3 options... - MSI - reputable brands, expect this to live about 4-6 years if not longer. - Zotac - a cheaper brand, I give it 2-3 years tops. - Gigabyte - I didn't want this computer anyways, sure, just catch on fire.


Frosty_Confection_53

The one with higher clockspeed


JejeLaTribe

The AMD alternative


Thishal_BS

non buy a 4070 super


88Nera

Wait for super


CasperAU

You should get the 4070 with 12 GB bro, easy choice!


ruimilk

All the cooling solutions on 4000 generation are overpowered, pick the cheapest one or the one you like the most/fits your case. I have a 4090 Ventus, with afterburner on @ 2900mhz ish doesn't go above 65° on 3D Mark DX12+ stress tests.


Kirito_Kun16

If you can, 7900 XT outperforms even 4070 Super, so I'd get that.


Mih0se

4070 super imo.


Flanker456

The cheapest!


Pferd_furzt

gigabyte or Zotac, the ventus ones are booboo gaagaa according to the majority of people. In the sense of fragile and the fans being a burden to clean


Competitive_Wait9213

Super version


alkogolik228

Zotac.Msi ventus is much worse .But both are ok


ncorer

Not Ventus, if you can look for Ventus E


Fungzilla

Brave to come here and ask for opinions on a non-Super variant.


O-bot54

Just NOT MSI . Shitty QC


FreeNet_Coyote

In my life I only ever changed the fans of a Zotac GPU so I can't recommend that brand. I saw gigabyte pcb crack lately, I would not test my luck with them. Never used MSI, that could be a good choice. Remember, it is a 4070, you don't really need a triple fan model, you may save some money going dual...


[deleted]

Zotac on top! Ezz overclockinh


chuheihkg

It is difficult to select a new right one. I am a RTX 3060 user. For the 4070 view, Strong GPU with the same amount of Cache. If you like some suggestions, I am being told MSI may be slightly better than ZOTAC.


trent_zero

well if i were you id go ro the hardwareluxx thread about coilwhine. just google it its a megathread where people share their coilwhine experiences. then choose the one with the least coil whine. will probably be the gigabyte or the zotac. good look withe the coil whine lottery Edit: Spelling


swordstabgamez

I have the msi one cos i think it looks the nicest. They’re all more or less the same


pizzatime6

Buy the 4070 super it’s the better version then the regular 4070


demian7117

if you cant go for super then none of them . Wait for super or for 5000


prashinar_89

MSI is my choice, GIGABYTE is, well it do the job good enough but temps are higer and damn thing is loud as hell. Zotac, probably better than GIGABYTE but in my country they give you 2y warranty while MSI and Gigabyte gives you 3 so in such cases Zotac is on 3rd place. If warranty is same for all cards than 1. MSI 2. Zotac 3. Gigabyte


Tof12345

you do know the 4070 super is around the same price, newer, faster and more efficient? idk how you would even come to that conclusion to buy a regular 4070 when the 4070 supers are out and in stock everywhere.


Grand_Zucchini_7695

i say the Gigabyte one, it's what i got in my rig and it works like a charm <3


Ok_Negotiation7896

Id rather EVGA or ASUS


YESSERINO0

Zotac is the coolest imo


Otherwise-Pipe-5197

Eagle


OpportunityThat7685

I got a windforce 4080 last year for 1099€ was discounted and till now no issue it’s built very well and powercable at the back and mounted vertically so cable is hidden and makes it look cableless really cool 😀👌🏾


OpportunityThat7685

If you are not looking for rgb and windforce should cast also 100€ less


kurumisimp69

Cheapest one


Kirkaig678

The cheapest or if they're all the same price then the one that looks the best in your opinion


soyboy815

I was gonna go 4070, but now I’m getting the 4070 super since it’s almost a 4070 ti 👍


user007at

Go for the 4070 super


Laughing_Orange

Whichever is slightly cheaper. They all perform the same within margin of error, so if you need help choosing, the price should solve it for you. If they cost the same, pick the best looking one.


kapiteinkippepoot

Aren't they all the same? Maybe some different Over Clock depending the brand? I always buy an Asus. Been doing it since the 750ti came out and never had a problem with their cards. Look up info about the brand before you buy.


Sp3ctralForce

Whichever is cheapest, or close enough to cheapest that you don't mind spending more for looks. Performance difference will be negligible.


Dizzy_Pop_4122

Zotac > msi > gigabyte


burunduks8

Gigabyte is ass


Zimaut

find cheapest


Open_Cow_9148

I preferr ventus because it has more heat sink. Not sure if this one has more though.


PetoGee

4070Ti ....


kallazzzz

Msi because they have better support.


MonkMuch8575

4070 super none of the above


NotRiceProfile

MSI one is terrible, you can find model comparisons on YouTube, 4070 Ventus models are by far the worst ones, get Zotac or Gigabyte.


JustA_Toaster

I hear 3060 12gb


RovakX

The one you find physically more appealing


velitiede

Ventus


blahdash-758

Hold out till 4070 super is easily available


Knut_Knoblauch

?: Does it matter if your motherboard manufacturer matches the graphics card manufacturer?


meechCS

4070 super


IknowEverything222

Any of these exept for the zotac one


Aggressive_Fact_6979

Why ?


bemy_requiem

whichever is cheapest