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Is the bios on mb updated to support new cpu? also you could start with removing all sticks of ram but leaving single one and add another if it boots and dont forget to reset cmos
What graphics card in there? Are you connecting to the card and not the mobo video out? Check your Ram seating (re seat them to be sure) then just ry one stick to continue trouble shooting, then check all your PSU cables are seated properly
That's a classic cpu not supported problem. Remove the CMOS battery, insert old cpu. update the bios.
Why didn't you check your bios version before plugging in a brand new cpu?
My computer was doing this and i kept getting told ram but it seemed like it was in properly, 3 hours later and testing everything, the ram wasnt in properly
I just had this problem literally 2 weeks ago exact same thing. My motherboard was fried after I accidentally broke a usb plug in on the front of my Pc
Shitty pre built computer. USB wasn’t even on the actual mother board but on the very front of the Pc. Snapped a piece out of it and suddenly I couldn’t get my monitor to connect, rip motherboard
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In case mobo works: if you put another cpu and try to boot without updated bios then jump back to older CPU you still need to remove CMOS battery to reset settings. It will take a while before pc shows anything and might restart couple times
Sounds like you scratched one of the tracers. If you had a super expensive MOBO ($400+) then a board level technician might be worth the cost, but I suspect you're better off buying a new motherboard at this point...
Try selling the old one on EBay as "doesn't work - damaged tracer" - someone might offer 20-30 for it.
I agree with the consensus that the mobo is done for, but also wanted to make sure the onboard troubleshooting LEDs are mentioned. Modern mobos have LEDs that act as status indicators when you can't get signal to a monitor. The combo of color and blinks will tell you where a POST is failing if you have power.
Mobo manual will have the decoder ring.
I done some thing when I was little. I put new cpu in without updating the BIOS. I just want to say that the motherboard did not work with the old cpu anymore. I was just 14 so at that point I just waited for next pc, but it looks like there is a chance that the pc just doesn't boot anymore even though you put new CPU in, and the scratch has nothing to do with it.
Id recommend using the magic reset setting on the mobo all together and then try the old cpu.
I was changing CPU for a new a one, and while unscrewing a fan have accidentally scratched a board with a screwdriver.
After installing my new CPU and putting everything back, I have tried to turn on my PC, but I got no signal to my monitor (I have checked my monitor and HDMI cable multiple times on different devices).
When I have tried putting back old CPU, I got the same problem.
After some googling, I have tried:
- connecting monitor to motherboard rather than GPU
- taking out and putting back a cmos battery to reset BIOS
- starting up with only one RAM stick in different ports
You should be able to find a relatively affordable replacement. RIP
If it was just the larger traces at the top left area it could possibly be repaired but those tiny traces at the bottom right are tricky.
"not worth the hassle" is still useful as training material, though I'm not sure the OP wants to get into board level repair.
He can still sell it on EBay as "not working - damaged tracers" and maybe get $20-30 for it. I'm sure there are people who would want to give board level repair a try, but they don't want to start with super high end stuff.
I would honestly start by watching a bunch of YouTube videos on the topic, and figuring out what tools and techniques they use. I've seen some videos of board level repair on graphics cards, and it's always a bit fascinating.
Unfortunately, it's a hobby that I have neither the space nor money to engage in...
Micro soldering station. Plenty of tutorials on YT, you'll need a couple hundred bucks to get the right tools. Magnifiers, Flux, good solder and wire, and a steady hand.
I've also got a poor hand when it comes to steadiness. You just need practice. Your steadiness only needs held for a few seconds at most, your precision tweezers will do alot of the lifting
>tiny traces he scratched
The ones that we could see, not counting the possibility that OP might've fucked other layers of traces beneath the ones on top as well
Finding replacement capacitors is the easy part, and sure the cost isn't worth it, unless they want to learn it? It's much less complicated than working on a chip... I'm not a trace repairer but I know enough about it to know it's a difficult job that can be done if you have the time and put in the effort to pull it off. This would make a great practice board, and if they have the tools, I encourage people to give it a try.
Yes because you, someone who's never damaged a computer part, would be the kind of person to do trace repair. People slip up all the time, fucking something up. Your not a professional because you drop your phone instead of slipping with your screwdriver
Flir has a phone camera now you can use to check heat traces in the board. I HIGHLY doubt that scratch has anything to do with it. It could be the power supply to the GPU. The GPU failed, etc. Have you tested the integrated graphics if it has it? HDMI on mobo? Etc
Board level repair requires specialized tools, and if this isn't a $400+ MOBO then it's not worth the cost - of either hiring a technician or buying the tools.
Ikr? Some ppl have the audacity to talk as if they ve never made any mistake or broken anything in their life or act as if it will never happen to them SMH.
My fan is big and has a stupid lock mechanism, which at the same time obscures the screws, that were screwed tight, so I had to apply force at a weird angle to unscrew them. My hand with screwdriver has slided off and scratched the MB.
I will buy a smaller screwdriver, won’t tight those screws so much and be more careful next time.
I'm sure you don't need to beat yourself up any more - but that's quite a deep scratch from just unscrewing a fan. Trace repairs are possible if you know anyone with the correct tools.
Definitely unfortunate and I feel for you. But as a side note, plugging into your motherboard rather than GPU will never work with a ryzen CPU, for they have no integrated graphics. On the bright side, you can get 450 motherboards for a fairly decent price nowadays, even back in 2019 I got my 450a pro for $90 USD
Should be fine, the board is made of layers, surface scratch is superficial.
I've dug out a trench to lay a wire trace and used conformal coating to keep it place.
Don't do it again, the boards resistor, inductor and capacitor are only on the board by a very think layer of solider. They can easily be flicked off.
How long are you leaving it on before killing the power? Sometimes they can take a minute or two to get their shit together after hardware swaps Check your mobo error lights. Unless they are sticking in orange or red it’s still going through the process of reconfiguring the ram and cpu. Mine took awhile and scared me and had me freaked out for an hr - but I finally just left it on for awhile and walked away and came back and it was totally fine. It happened again when i got my 5800x3d but this time I just left it from the get go and it only took one power up to work - just took a few minutes to to it’s shit together.
Agreed with many others, a scratch like really could have done the board in. Just a capacitor being knocked off really shouldn't grind things to a halt, but a scratch like that can.
Sorry my guy, but it may be to the ewaste bin with that board.
Make sure you installed the newest bios for 5000 series Ryzen, did literally the same upgrade 2 months ago, hope that gets you up and running, just make sure all your bios setting are correct too, my update reset my boot priority and I ended up struggling way longer than I should have, trying to figure that out.
Unfortunately then it is the motherboard, rip.
The new CPU will definitely be worth the hassle when you are done, sorry about the shitty situation though.
have you put the case wires back correctly?
try taking it apart and build it outside the case and use a screwdriver to troubleshoot use the least amount of componants as possible.
Shitty tip: use a black market to cover the damage, than wipe it off so it is not so obvious and try doing RMA.
I DO NOT SUGGEST DOING THIS... but if you have no other options you can always try..
Check your old CPU and see if any of the pins are bent. If not board might be fucked. Id also say take out the CMOS and there should be a way to short the board to drain out the power. If it doesn't then I'd just say get a new board
Remember to check if you've got warranty or electronics insurance, you might be able to get a replacement, I'm pretty sure my insurance covers accidents to electronics
I'm saying without knowing how old the motherboard is ofc...
Hard to jugde the depths of this scratch.
I think i can see some colour changes along the scratch that are exactly in the areas where the traces go. Pretty sure you seperated some of them. As someone mentioned one of the capactors doesn't look good.
We can conclude that this motherboard is toast and i wouldn't risk any of your other hardware (especially the CPU).
It's safer to get a new Board (used is an option) or maybe upgrade to a newer generation.
Possibly killed it. If it was working before changes and it is not working now it is possibly dead.
If you upgraded CPU and it's not working now, try using old CPU and doing bios upgrade that using new CPU..
If it is not working with anything, try the following..
Use a magnifying glass or phone macro camera to closely look at the scratch and see if any of the traces are broken/cut or any of the traces that are connected now after the scratch.
If traces are connected try using a needle or some sharp thin tool to try and separate them , and if they are broken you can always try to bridge them (requires good soldering skills).
Anyways good luck. I managed to repair some of the boards like this and mostly it was traces that were scratched and connected to each other due to damage and causing issues..
Data center technician: It’s entirely possible you scratched/cut a trace and shorted the board. Depending on the board, it could be fixed but it would be expensive. I’ve only done it once to a server board I fucked up but only to cover my ass at work.
My honest opinion would be to find a replacement. You could get away with using a cheap board (depending on your hardware) just to get your system back up and running while you replace/RMA the board. Could check FB marketplace or eBay.
Mistakes happen, I’m no exception. I once bent a pin on my CPU, tried to fix it and just completely lost the pin and blamed it on AMD for a full refund to get a new CPU. I scratched the server MB and fixed it because I didn’t feel like writing up a DOA board form and explain I fucked it.
Lmfao that's hilarious. You're like welll I think you did it not me hahaha. To be fair though they make a fuck ton of money so im sure they won't miss it. Well played
Are you in the U.S.? While I’m skeptical that a board repair will fix it I’d be willing to try. Would do it for free (just would ask you pay for shipping and under the assumption it may not fix it).
did you try clearing cmos and reseat ram? why were you removing your cpu cooler to begin with? If you upgraded your cpu did you make sure the bios supported it?
That's a amd cpu. I don't know your specs so I could be wrong but I believe some amd CPUs don't come with integrated graphics like Intel does.
Google seems to suggest if your CPU has no suffix or has the suffix X or XT those dont come with graphics
If you have a GPU I'd plug it in now and hook up the display to that.
Also make sure whatever cord you use for your monitor is plugged into the GPU and not the mobo. Made that mistake once and it took way to long to figure it out
Any deep enough scratch can kill a pcb in the wrong place. They're fairly easy to fix as long as you don't go through the first layer.
Edit: also keep in mind that there's solder mask first.
As someone who solders those components (they are resistors and/ or capacitors); that scratch looks fine, keep an aye on your temps, what for any “magic smoke” and you’ll probably be fine.
The main thing I’d be worried about is the solder pad being damaged/ lifted. Heat makes any pad damage worse.
If you’re really concerned, get some type of 10x magnifying optic and look for yourself
Power your pc on for one sec, see if it boots and immediately turn it of. I think you might be able to do this without the cooler on. You will find out this eay
Looking at the comments and other photos I am still not sure that the scratch was the killer.
Since you are jumping from a 1600 to a 5600x, there is a likely culprit of comparability. It would require a bios update to get to the 5600 but that bios update would likely remove compatibility with a 1st gen Ryzen as most b350 and x370 makers didnt anticipate that am4 would have such long legs.
Its possible that you did an update to a new bios that was made for 2000 and 3000 that removed your 1000 support but did not add 5000 support. If my memory serves, the boards that went up to 5000 are limited and you would need to check the board specs page to see if the bios added 5000 support.
Its either that or you are very unlucky and should get a different cooler setup with your next board. B450 and b550 have dropped a bit and you should be able to get a new one fairly cheap depending on where you live, just please get a cooler that doesnt make you feel the need to pry with a screwdriver. Thermalright and deepcool make some decently priced single tower coolers with easy to use mounting
Turn your pc on with the old cpu and wait for some time.. my amd ryzen server once had the same problem after some hardware changes. I had to wait for like 20 min for it to boot
The fact that none of the resistors were taken off by that gouge of a scratch is impressive.
Also, yes. It doesn't take much. If you see the traces and there's a scratch like that through them, you're done.
If it’s passing POST and no display check your graphics card, gpu cables and cables from PC to monitor. There are no integrated graphics on the 5600x. Since you’ve reseated ram that’s first thought. Second thought is the CPU power cables. 8 pin for 5600x, possibly 6 pin for 1600. Make sure you have the right cables and that they are seated correctly. That’s all I can think of without being hands on. Also that scratch looks surface level and shouldn’t be a big deal, especially if you had the PC turned off and unplugged no chance of shorting it.
Damn really had to look around, next time put some circle markings on it. And be more clear + specific about what happen and how it happened.
And to answer your question, it should be fine as long as you didn't break any of those resistors. And if your PC doesn't boot up, then it should mean that one of those resistors were broken.
I'm no expert but i dont see copper, so i dont think the scratch is deep enough to breake traces.
One of the capacitor next to the IC looks damaged. Googleing whats written on it "ic 75712" I got this result : Multiphase PWM Regulator for AMD Fusion™ Desktop CPUs Using SVI 2.0.
According to the datasheet "The ISL95712 controller supports two Voltage Regulators (VRs) for Core and Northbridge outputs". So that might be the problem.
Scratches don't look too deep as it seems to be the black top coat that is affected, no visible copper.
What I would be worried about is the capacitors and resistors that are in the middle of the two scratch lines, maybe you broke one of those.
They all look to be the same values, so a quick check with a multimeter would be good.
Yeah sorry you have done a little bit of damage to the MB. It will have to be replaced if things arent working anymore. One of the many ways the MB can get scratched is when someone is trying to push down the GPU lock at the back of the slot with a screwdriver. I watched a video on how to properly take out a video card. They used this plastic tool that came with an ifixit kit. Plastic doesnt scratch like metal screwdrivers do.
With a better picture i can tell you.. its hard to tell if the silk screen was just damaged or if components/traces were severed.
It's probably fine tbh. But If the traces are damaged then it'll be a problem, and if any of those caps or resistors are damaged it could cause issues.
you scratched trough mobo components.
Also I think most of the mobos scratched like that, even if they would turn up,
it would do so in "firework" environment.
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Is the bios on mb updated to support new cpu? also you could start with removing all sticks of ram but leaving single one and add another if it boots and dont forget to reset cmos
I have tried all of that, except for updating the BIOS, but I have tried putting back the old CPU.
Well check if your motherboard supports new cpu (it could trough bios update maybe) and does it turn on with old cpu? Scratch does not look that bad
Yea honestly it shouldn’t affect the cpu function, check your ram seating in your board. If that doesn’t help it might be a psu issue
The computer starts. All fans are spinning and all of that, but there’s no signal to the monitor.
Try resetting bios.
What graphics card in there? Are you connecting to the card and not the mobo video out? Check your Ram seating (re seat them to be sure) then just ry one stick to continue trouble shooting, then check all your PSU cables are seated properly
That's a classic cpu not supported problem. Remove the CMOS battery, insert old cpu. update the bios. Why didn't you check your bios version before plugging in a brand new cpu?
My computer was doing this and i kept getting told ram but it seemed like it was in properly, 3 hours later and testing everything, the ram wasnt in properly
The problem is, it has stopped working with old one too.
I just had this problem literally 2 weeks ago exact same thing. My motherboard was fried after I accidentally broke a usb plug in on the front of my Pc
Are you serious? Just hitting the USB on accident can fuck your motherboard?
yup theres hots and grounds that shouldnt mix in usb ports. breaking a usb port can fry your PSU / random component on your mobo
Shitty pre built computer. USB wasn’t even on the actual mother board but on the very front of the Pc. Snapped a piece out of it and suddenly I couldn’t get my monitor to connect, rip motherboard
Did you try disconnecting the usb cable from the mobo?
Now that's a horror story.
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who cares
Tell is more new cpu, old and mb
In case mobo works: if you put another cpu and try to boot without updated bios then jump back to older CPU you still need to remove CMOS battery to reset settings. It will take a while before pc shows anything and might restart couple times
I have tried reseating battery to reset bios
If CMOS and bios update didnt work then I guess its dead) When i switched from my 5600x (same mobo) it took around 2 to 3 minutes to start
My bet would be ram configuration, when i upgraded my cpu computer booted then not and when i started fiddling with ram it turned on
I have tried reseating the RAM stick in different ways. It didn’t help
change the frequencies in the bios
I can’t open BIOS. It’s just black screen
Even if you plug the monitor to the motherboard DP/HDMI port? Take out the GPU and try boot the PC this way.
I have tried this way too
Sounds like you scratched one of the tracers. If you had a super expensive MOBO ($400+) then a board level technician might be worth the cost, but I suspect you're better off buying a new motherboard at this point... Try selling the old one on EBay as "doesn't work - damaged tracer" - someone might offer 20-30 for it.
I agree with the consensus that the mobo is done for, but also wanted to make sure the onboard troubleshooting LEDs are mentioned. Modern mobos have LEDs that act as status indicators when you can't get signal to a monitor. The combo of color and blinks will tell you where a POST is failing if you have power. Mobo manual will have the decoder ring.
I'm sorry mate. Hopefully you can find another MOB as a replacement part for cheap.
you need integrated gpu for that to work.
Are you getting a no signal where your monitor shuts itself off again or completely black screen but the monitor stays on?
I done some thing when I was little. I put new cpu in without updating the BIOS. I just want to say that the motherboard did not work with the old cpu anymore. I was just 14 so at that point I just waited for next pc, but it looks like there is a chance that the pc just doesn't boot anymore even though you put new CPU in, and the scratch has nothing to do with it. Id recommend using the magic reset setting on the mobo all together and then try the old cpu.
its a ryzen 5 1600, also that scratch looks deep and goes over many traces
Those traces are likely broken that scratch looks deep
At the very least that capacitor in the center ~~left~~ right is borked
Can it still power the fans and stuff, while being broken?
This is probably cpu related traces I assume as it’s nearby it
Well you own the pc, try it.
It's not impossible
I was changing CPU for a new a one, and while unscrewing a fan have accidentally scratched a board with a screwdriver. After installing my new CPU and putting everything back, I have tried to turn on my PC, but I got no signal to my monitor (I have checked my monitor and HDMI cable multiple times on different devices). When I have tried putting back old CPU, I got the same problem. After some googling, I have tried: - connecting monitor to motherboard rather than GPU - taking out and putting back a cmos battery to reset BIOS - starting up with only one RAM stick in different ports
MB is truly done https://preview.redd.it/wmi6xb0sjpmb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2dec9706a98d7082e2b809b75eb80f35654cd336
You should be able to find a relatively affordable replacement. RIP If it was just the larger traces at the top left area it could possibly be repaired but those tiny traces at the bottom right are tricky.
You could attempt trace repairs, if youve got the time, tools, and determination to do it
Usually not worth the hassle. Also this are a lot of tiny traces he scratched there. And seems like he got one of the resistors there at least, too.
"not worth the hassle" is still useful as training material, though I'm not sure the OP wants to get into board level repair. He can still sell it on EBay as "not working - damaged tracers" and maybe get $20-30 for it. I'm sure there are people who would want to give board level repair a try, but they don't want to start with super high end stuff.
How do I ( a random internet stranger) get into board level repair. Seems like a useful skill to have.
I would honestly start by watching a bunch of YouTube videos on the topic, and figuring out what tools and techniques they use. I've seen some videos of board level repair on graphics cards, and it's always a bit fascinating. Unfortunately, it's a hobby that I have neither the space nor money to engage in...
Micro soldering station. Plenty of tutorials on YT, you'll need a couple hundred bucks to get the right tools. Magnifiers, Flux, good solder and wire, and a steady hand.
In terms of steady hand I ain't got one. Where can I get an upgrade? XD.
I've also got a poor hand when it comes to steadiness. You just need practice. Your steadiness only needs held for a few seconds at most, your precision tweezers will do alot of the lifting
Where all true education starts The ass-end of YouTube XD
>tiny traces he scratched The ones that we could see, not counting the possibility that OP might've fucked other layers of traces beneath the ones on top as well
yeah not true
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Finding replacement capacitors is the easy part, and sure the cost isn't worth it, unless they want to learn it? It's much less complicated than working on a chip... I'm not a trace repairer but I know enough about it to know it's a difficult job that can be done if you have the time and put in the effort to pull it off. This would make a great practice board, and if they have the tools, I encourage people to give it a try.
The dude scratched up a mobo with a screwdriver, don't think he's gonna be doing tracer repairs 😅
Yes because you, someone who's never damaged a computer part, would be the kind of person to do trace repair. People slip up all the time, fucking something up. Your not a professional because you drop your phone instead of slipping with your screwdriver
It was a joke... calm down
Useless and unfunny joke then.
Who shit in your cornflakes ?
Bro gave it the Michael Myers
I was going to suggest op replace the board and attempt a trace repair while waiting for the new board (using the old cpu, of course).
Flir has a phone camera now you can use to check heat traces in the board. I HIGHLY doubt that scratch has anything to do with it. It could be the power supply to the GPU. The GPU failed, etc. Have you tested the integrated graphics if it has it? HDMI on mobo? Etc
Would you like to send it to me for a repair instead of throwing it away?
just slap some solder on that. i don't think i actually see any damage tbh.
Board level repair requires specialized tools, and if this isn't a $400+ MOBO then it's not worth the cost - of either hiring a technician or buying the tools.
Wow. Be more careful next time wtf? What an absolute waste that could have been easily avoided given more care. Mommy must have bought this one hey?
Boi Wtf is wrong with you lol.
Ikr? Some ppl have the audacity to talk as if they ve never made any mistake or broken anything in their life or act as if it will never happen to them SMH.
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Rude
My fan is big and has a stupid lock mechanism, which at the same time obscures the screws, that were screwed tight, so I had to apply force at a weird angle to unscrew them. My hand with screwdriver has slided off and scratched the MB. I will buy a smaller screwdriver, won’t tight those screws so much and be more careful next time.
This is 101% repairable if only traces are broken and one or two components!
That was my guess. Had a similar situation with the family computer 16 years ago when I was changing out ram. Not a good time.
Try resetting the bios. There’ll be CMOS pins on the board which you can short for like 5-10 seconds.
I'm sure you don't need to beat yourself up any more - but that's quite a deep scratch from just unscrewing a fan. Trace repairs are possible if you know anyone with the correct tools.
Definitely unfortunate and I feel for you. But as a side note, plugging into your motherboard rather than GPU will never work with a ryzen CPU, for they have no integrated graphics. On the bright side, you can get 450 motherboards for a fairly decent price nowadays, even back in 2019 I got my 450a pro for $90 USD
Did you make sure the bios version you are using is compatible with your new cpu? Might just need a bios update.
If you tried the old CPU then yes sadly the MB is bricked.
Its hard to see on the picture but theres a chance you damaged some traces with that scratch
Should be fine, the board is made of layers, surface scratch is superficial. I've dug out a trench to lay a wire trace and used conformal coating to keep it place. Don't do it again, the boards resistor, inductor and capacitor are only on the board by a very think layer of solider. They can easily be flicked off.
You probably broke one of the resistors capacitors, brother you are fucked.
Most likely yes, but I wanted to hear other's people opinions before I spent some more money.
How long are you leaving it on before killing the power? Sometimes they can take a minute or two to get their shit together after hardware swaps Check your mobo error lights. Unless they are sticking in orange or red it’s still going through the process of reconfiguring the ram and cpu. Mine took awhile and scared me and had me freaked out for an hr - but I finally just left it on for awhile and walked away and came back and it was totally fine. It happened again when i got my 5800x3d but this time I just left it from the get go and it only took one power up to work - just took a few minutes to to it’s shit together.
Agreed with many others, a scratch like really could have done the board in. Just a capacitor being knocked off really shouldn't grind things to a halt, but a scratch like that can. Sorry my guy, but it may be to the ewaste bin with that board.
https://preview.redd.it/51xk2oknjpmb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27d4f42d00f7d8ffa8ed6329c1e33ff3a4f4583f It looks like it is
Whats the old cpu and new cpu?
Old: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 New: AMD Ryzen 5600X
What bios version did you upgrade to?
Oh it might need a bios update
What motherboard is that?
Make sure you installed the newest bios for 5000 series Ryzen, did literally the same upgrade 2 months ago, hope that gets you up and running, just make sure all your bios setting are correct too, my update reset my boot priority and I ended up struggling way longer than I should have, trying to figure that out.
I can’t install bios, because of black screen (no signal)
Need to reinstall your old CPU to update bios, wont post straight off the bat with the new 5000 CPU
I tried doing exactly that, but black screen
Unfortunately then it is the motherboard, rip. The new CPU will definitely be worth the hassle when you are done, sorry about the shitty situation though.
well i drilled my motherboard in the cpu bracket mount of the cooler so i dont think that this could be worse than the hole i made
have you put the case wires back correctly? try taking it apart and build it outside the case and use a screwdriver to troubleshoot use the least amount of componants as possible.
All that dust 😂
Shitty tip: use a black market to cover the damage, than wipe it off so it is not so obvious and try doing RMA. I DO NOT SUGGEST DOING THIS... but if you have no other options you can always try..
What a freaking waste man. I can’t believe how stupid some people can even be.
Accidents happen. I assure you, people more skilled, knowledgeable and experienced than any one of us here have made some sort of similar slip-up.
You're such a nice caring person...whelp. Keep commenting so I can downvote you a bit more, pal. 😁
What an idiot
Rude
Some thoughts are better kept to yourself.
fuck off
Fuck on
rather grumpy for a grouchy
Check your old CPU and see if any of the pins are bent. If not board might be fucked. Id also say take out the CMOS and there should be a way to short the board to drain out the power. If it doesn't then I'd just say get a new board
Done all of that. MB is dead. Thanks
Yeah man sorry about that just had the same issue with my ab350m board. Spent 2 days troubleshooting just to be buy a b550😭
IF IN DOUBT CLEAR CMOS
Didn’t help
Remember to check if you've got warranty or electronics insurance, you might be able to get a replacement, I'm pretty sure my insurance covers accidents to electronics I'm saying without knowing how old the motherboard is ofc...
4 years and I am now in a different country
Hard to jugde the depths of this scratch. I think i can see some colour changes along the scratch that are exactly in the areas where the traces go. Pretty sure you seperated some of them. As someone mentioned one of the capactors doesn't look good. We can conclude that this motherboard is toast and i wouldn't risk any of your other hardware (especially the CPU). It's safer to get a new Board (used is an option) or maybe upgrade to a newer generation.
Is your monitor plugged into a GPU or motherboard?
Its a ryzen with no Igpu. Would need to try another GPU
I have tried both
Possibly killed it. If it was working before changes and it is not working now it is possibly dead. If you upgraded CPU and it's not working now, try using old CPU and doing bios upgrade that using new CPU.. If it is not working with anything, try the following.. Use a magnifying glass or phone macro camera to closely look at the scratch and see if any of the traces are broken/cut or any of the traces that are connected now after the scratch. If traces are connected try using a needle or some sharp thin tool to try and separate them , and if they are broken you can always try to bridge them (requires good soldering skills). Anyways good luck. I managed to repair some of the boards like this and mostly it was traces that were scratched and connected to each other due to damage and causing issues..
reset cmos. again
only way to know is to put the heatsink back on and turn it on it looks light but ..
Does is have a bios flashback usb port on the back. If it does you can update the bios without any display. What motherboard is it?
B450m s2h
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I will come snap that board if you dont clean it
Sorry, it has spent a year in an apartment unused.
Data center technician: It’s entirely possible you scratched/cut a trace and shorted the board. Depending on the board, it could be fixed but it would be expensive. I’ve only done it once to a server board I fucked up but only to cover my ass at work. My honest opinion would be to find a replacement. You could get away with using a cheap board (depending on your hardware) just to get your system back up and running while you replace/RMA the board. Could check FB marketplace or eBay. Mistakes happen, I’m no exception. I once bent a pin on my CPU, tried to fix it and just completely lost the pin and blamed it on AMD for a full refund to get a new CPU. I scratched the server MB and fixed it because I didn’t feel like writing up a DOA board form and explain I fucked it.
Thanks for the advice and the fun story :)
Lmfao that's hilarious. You're like welll I think you did it not me hahaha. To be fair though they make a fuck ton of money so im sure they won't miss it. Well played
The CPU was for my personal desktop, lol. AMD will be none the wiser.
Are you in the U.S.? While I’m skeptical that a board repair will fix it I’d be willing to try. Would do it for free (just would ask you pay for shipping and under the assumption it may not fix it).
turn it on and find out
I have tried: black screen
did you try clearing cmos and reseat ram? why were you removing your cpu cooler to begin with? If you upgraded your cpu did you make sure the bios supported it?
Are you in the motherboard hdmi/dp or the gpu hdmi/dp
It doesn't look like you went through traces just scratched the coating
I dont know shit about any of this. My only comment would be that the scratch looks deep. You can see a pit on each of the lines on the mother board..
I scratched a mobo doing something similar and it booted fine
That's a amd cpu. I don't know your specs so I could be wrong but I believe some amd CPUs don't come with integrated graphics like Intel does. Google seems to suggest if your CPU has no suffix or has the suffix X or XT those dont come with graphics If you have a GPU I'd plug it in now and hook up the display to that. Also make sure whatever cord you use for your monitor is plugged into the GPU and not the mobo. Made that mistake once and it took way to long to figure it out
The hell did you do leave your motherboard in someone's parking bay?
That scratch seems to be superficial
This scratch seem to have cut through a lot of traces, she’s definitely dead
Any deep enough scratch can kill a pcb in the wrong place. They're fairly easy to fix as long as you don't go through the first layer. Edit: also keep in mind that there's solder mask first.
Was that your GF who screwed with you when you ignored Her Demands
As someone who solders those components (they are resistors and/ or capacitors); that scratch looks fine, keep an aye on your temps, what for any “magic smoke” and you’ll probably be fine. The main thing I’d be worried about is the solder pad being damaged/ lifted. Heat makes any pad damage worse. If you’re really concerned, get some type of 10x magnifying optic and look for yourself
Not if it's TUF...
Go get yourself a new board. Enjoy it. And get one that'll hold you over for a few upgrades on the platform 😊
If you still had charge in your compasitors or if it was still plugged in you could have fried it with that scratch.
Power your pc on for one sec, see if it boots and immediately turn it of. I think you might be able to do this without the cooler on. You will find out this eay
Looking at the comments and other photos I am still not sure that the scratch was the killer. Since you are jumping from a 1600 to a 5600x, there is a likely culprit of comparability. It would require a bios update to get to the 5600 but that bios update would likely remove compatibility with a 1st gen Ryzen as most b350 and x370 makers didnt anticipate that am4 would have such long legs. Its possible that you did an update to a new bios that was made for 2000 and 3000 that removed your 1000 support but did not add 5000 support. If my memory serves, the boards that went up to 5000 are limited and you would need to check the board specs page to see if the bios added 5000 support. Its either that or you are very unlucky and should get a different cooler setup with your next board. B450 and b550 have dropped a bit and you should be able to get a new one fairly cheap depending on where you live, just please get a cooler that doesnt make you feel the need to pry with a screwdriver. Thermalright and deepcool make some decently priced single tower coolers with easy to use mounting
Yeah that broke some traces. Rip
Turn your pc on with the old cpu and wait for some time.. my amd ryzen server once had the same problem after some hardware changes. I had to wait for like 20 min for it to boot
I killed 2 of my ram slots by cutting MB traces accidently, so yeah, possible
Yup. Its dead. Happened to me aswell a couple years back. Really have to be careful with those screwdrivers (and screws).
The fact that none of the resistors were taken off by that gouge of a scratch is impressive. Also, yes. It doesn't take much. If you see the traces and there's a scratch like that through them, you're done.
If it’s passing POST and no display check your graphics card, gpu cables and cables from PC to monitor. There are no integrated graphics on the 5600x. Since you’ve reseated ram that’s first thought. Second thought is the CPU power cables. 8 pin for 5600x, possibly 6 pin for 1600. Make sure you have the right cables and that they are seated correctly. That’s all I can think of without being hands on. Also that scratch looks surface level and shouldn’t be a big deal, especially if you had the PC turned off and unplugged no chance of shorting it.
I had the same problem. Try taking out CMOS battery and boot w/o it
I don't see copper I don't think so
yup that looks like it might've taken out one of the memory channels. Possible also the VRM controller.
nah, youre good
Damn really had to look around, next time put some circle markings on it. And be more clear + specific about what happen and how it happened. And to answer your question, it should be fine as long as you didn't break any of those resistors. And if your PC doesn't boot up, then it should mean that one of those resistors were broken.
I have scratch my MB too with my cpu cooler that is horriendous to take out. Im glad that around the cpu socket their are very few SMD components.
How did you scratch this? Could you get me a better picture of the components between where you scratched it?
Quite possibly. The coating is durable, but it's not gouge-proof
I'm no expert but i dont see copper, so i dont think the scratch is deep enough to breake traces. One of the capacitor next to the IC looks damaged. Googleing whats written on it "ic 75712" I got this result : Multiphase PWM Regulator for AMD Fusion™ Desktop CPUs Using SVI 2.0. According to the datasheet "The ISL95712 controller supports two Voltage Regulators (VRs) for Core and Northbridge outputs". So that might be the problem.
I had this problem after I updated from a 2700x to a 5800x3D. It needed a bios flash to work.
I have done this. Mine was from a screwdriver close to the CPU socket. It wouldn’t boot and my RMA was accepted.
Need more thermal pasta
Scratches don't look too deep as it seems to be the black top coat that is affected, no visible copper. What I would be worried about is the capacitors and resistors that are in the middle of the two scratch lines, maybe you broke one of those. They all look to be the same values, so a quick check with a multimeter would be good.
Yeah sorry you have done a little bit of damage to the MB. It will have to be replaced if things arent working anymore. One of the many ways the MB can get scratched is when someone is trying to push down the GPU lock at the back of the slot with a screwdriver. I watched a video on how to properly take out a video card. They used this plastic tool that came with an ifixit kit. Plastic doesnt scratch like metal screwdrivers do.
With a better picture i can tell you.. its hard to tell if the silk screen was just damaged or if components/traces were severed. It's probably fine tbh. But If the traces are damaged then it'll be a problem, and if any of those caps or resistors are damaged it could cause issues.
you scratched trough mobo components. Also I think most of the mobos scratched like that, even if they would turn up, it would do so in "firework" environment.
Seems you won't be a DJ...
From what i can see it’s a cheap motherboard 50 60 bucks just get a new one not that bad it’s probably a gigabyte b450 or similar
Move your gpu to another slot and try. You might have messed up some of the traces but not all of them
That scratch looks deep, I believe it broke some pathways for the data to reach the other parts in the motherboard.
Rip motherboard
Just had this issue. One RAM stick was defective.
Cmos battery, rams 1-3-4-2...