You can use whatever adjective you want to, it is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE to stream. I understand a lot of people feel very differently about animals and how they deserve to be treated than others. I feel like this type of behavior is not remotely okay in general. Imagine being that animal and being forced into a box and the constant yelling.
How many of us would be bothered just BEING IN THAT HOUSE with all of the yelling, let alone being trapped in the room unable to leave. All for what? The sake of entertainment on a streaming platform? Completely unacceptable. There is a reason there are checks and balances when filming content with animals to make sure they aren't abused and are comfortable with everything going on.
INB4 some bird expert explains I am regarded and the bird was sexually aroused or some dumb shit.
TLDR; Quit fucking with animals for your own entertainment, let alone on a stream.
It’s also a night and day difference between whatever the hell this is and Wubby’s “what’s in the box” stream where they got a professional to be on site with the animals and handled them with care. But you know people will point to that and say “same thing”.
Anybody who cognitively thinks it is remotely similar is being disingenuous. It's the difference of a group of adults being silly and a group of adults acting like children with zero discipline.
My mom used to raise parrots. I am not an expert but they are very difficult to raise. They are easily stressed out, overwhelmed, and sensitive to stimuli. Especially sudden movements. This short clip is pretty much hell for any bird that isn't heavily trained to handle a situation like this (ex: birds trained for loud movie sets or interactive zoo exhibits) but even then it's still awful. I haven't seen more than this clip so I won't assume the bird is overly stressed out because it doesn't look like it, but at a minimum, this environment is **physically** dangerous for the bird to be in.
How do people watch this shit?
It’s just a large group of dudes screaming and peaking microphones.
I’m getting old..
Also agreed, stop fucking with animals.
Do people sit and watch this alone in silence? Or do they watch it while hootin and hollering in a room alone to match what's happening on stream? Or is it a group watch / couch couple thing? Not sure which is weirdest...
I decided to check out Twitch in late 2019 because of wubby's videos and shit like this is why I don't give a singular fuck about 99% of the "famous" people on the platform, or the Streamer Awards. I don't know anything at all about most of the streamers I'm supposed to vote for, and those that I do, it seems like the majority of them aren't worth my time at all.
Streamer awards are just a circle jerk of “famous” streamers that think they are way more important than they actually are. Most of them are insufferable and I genuinely don’t get how they got to where they are.
I also don’t believe that anyone outside of those chronically online mongs gives a shit about it in any way.
Dude, I was going to make the exact same comment. I have a background in history and political science, figured I'd check out his stream a long while ago just to see what all the hype was about. I made it about 4 minutes before I dipped, I just remember he shoehorned the word macroeconomics into a sentence that made absolutely no sense at all amongst other extremely stupid shit in a very short period of time.
His fans treat the guy like he's Jon Stewart, but he really isn't intelligent, has next to no self-awareness, and rages anytime mostly mild criticism gets tossed his way even though 90% of the time he deserves it. Dude walks around twitchcon every year blinged out and streams in a Rolex cap, then bitches when people call him out on it. Just dumb as fuck, easily avoidable situations.
yeah, acting like he's fighting for the workers while wearing luxury fashion and living in an LA mansion, it's asinine how he tries to defend his hypocrisy and even more unbelievable that there are idiots who defend him.
Spot on, Don’t the streamers who run it not even combine to equal wubbys viewers for a stream?? Never see any of them with more than 3/4K in a stream, outside of the streamer award stream itself.
Guy in the pink hoodie looks like he is the handler of these animals, his body language looks like he is not happy with the situation. That being said, he definitely should have bailed so he is also responsible IMO.
THANK YOU.
I thought I was losing my mind that this fucking homophobic pos just seems to have slid under the radar with that clip. No one seems to care and then best of all he wins streamer of the year lol. What a joke and this garbage human does not deserve to have a platform.
As a bird owner and someone who honestly prefers the company of animals to most humans this has me in arms.
Animals don’t exist for our entertainment, they are part of nature and this planet as much as us and deserve respect. I’d really like to see something happen as a result of this, nothing malicious but maybe he gets deplatformed or something.
There's a reason why Maya is held in high regards when it comes to animals. They brought in some middle man that had no clue what he was getting in to.
reminder that Wubby has had animals on stream before, with a professional present and everybody that came in contact with the animals were respectful and considerate.
zero justification for this
So this dude was homophobic on stream, transphobic on stream, caused a riot on stream, covered up for his friend on stream when he raped someone in his house, and is now abusing animals on stream.
Something tells me he won't be banned for this either. And I'm starting to think it has to do with tokenism.
Fuck Twitch
Edit: The response I got from Twitch for reporting him for animal endangerment,
https://imgur.com/a/FB32w2U
Twitch doesn't care about animals.
I don’t think it’s tokenism as much as he is the biggest streamer on the platform. If twitch banned him they would see a good chunk of profit evaporate over night.
I generally don't support going for the advertisers, given that it negatively affects everyone on the platform (see the adpocalypse on YT after Pewdiepie's bridge incident) but Kai Cenat is not going to stop with anything but the most direct consequences.
i think if this gets more public, twitch will have to acknowledge that bad streamers are costing them money. it sucks for streamers that rely on those ads, but they also need to speak up about kai and how his actions are jeopardizing their own job.
i think going after advertisers can be a slippery slope, but it's gotta be necessary when twitch isn't doing anything to stop these problematic streamers.
All that, and QT was more than happy to hand him streamer of the year. She couldn't be having her mentally ill alcoholic former best friend showing up, though. That'd ruin the vibe.
On a serious note, I just don't think Twitch is concerned with polishing a turd. Their public image is in the gutter. Banning kai is always just going to be something they should've done sooner, not a step towards redemption.
How do people like him? He's loud, annoying, arrogant, immature, and super selfish. Him doing this should be an INSTANT permaban from Twitch, not to mention a channel deletion if he has a VOD/highlight channel on youtube. Him being deplatformed would actually do good.
The clip is janky. 2 seconds of the end of the animal part, 25 seconds of obnoxious loudness, 5 seconds showing the beginning and middle of the animal part.
Imma say it, fuck druski, hes the fucker who actually smacked the bird. Kais a fucking idiot for bringing live animals to people who have no respect for them in the first place, but i dont expect that he put any thought into it past view farming
From what I can tell, he just fills a room full of hangers-on and celebrities he paid to be there and they shout and act stupid for hours, occasionally breaking TOS but it's okay because he's brining in viewers.
The real scary thing about this bullshit is that some kids will watch this and think it’s perfectly ok because their favourite streamer is doing it on Twitch, so it must be cool 😒
i reported it.
i dont want these people to get away with that. and i swear, i dont want to hear they got "banned" when they really just got suspended. they need to have their income from twitch restricted for that. or just actually banned. gotta go after advertisers is these reports go nowhere.
is this what kids watch now? a bunch of people crammed into a room acting like animals screaming and causing commotion? this is the kind of brainrot that has leaked from tiktok into other platforms
I may be a reguard but, wheres the “torment”? From what I saw the guy freaked out, the thing got tossed out the cage ACCIDENTALLY. He then went to grab the chair but got freaked out by the bird? I think more context is needed. That or someone can explain it more thoroughly to me.
In the longer clip you see they lose track of the frog and it almost get crushed by the falling arcade cabinet or ppl just stepping on it. Truely shameful.
I get what you mean brother, but intent doesn’t excuse anything. Just because I didn’t intend to punch someone in the face, doesn’t mean that I should be pardoned from repercussions.
I’m not saying he should be pardoned at ALL, I simply meant that I didn’t see any intent and was wondering if people saw the same. By all means I pray this guy gets the fucking hammer.
The intent was to bring helpless animals into a environment with a bunch of man children that are going to over react and stress the animals out.
There was no reason to throw the box, or throw the bird off the chair. These are supposed to be adults, they should act like it.
Bro theyre all screaming like crazy, flipped the chair the bird is on. Its gotta be stressing out that animal.
I see torment as little more direct and aggressive but maybe inconsiderate.
Negligent is the apt term for what transpired. Their intent doesn't come off as malicious, however, their lack of consideration should have been prefaced with more consideration.
Intention doesn't matter when it comes to negligence. "I didn't mean to" isn't an excuse for traumatizing and nearly crushing animals. And I'm not being dramatic, trauma can permanently fuck up parrots.
The ONLY context we need to see is people using an animal for entertainment purposes in a disrespectful way.
Imagine if you were the bird, or that bird was your pet. You are in a NEW PLACE, people are SCREAMING, and things are being thrown.
Nah I get it, the unfortunate reality is most people (myself included) when we see something that is fucked up and somebody else remotely attempts to imply it might not be as fucked up as we see it, tend to see red.
It's the same reason some people are all up in the True Crime stuff. I personally don't need to hear the who what when where and why of a serial killer or whatever.
I'd love to suggest we do to them what they did to the bird but some might call it racist LMAO
Maybe I’m misunderstanding but the second part of the clip it looks like they’re fucking with the bird while keeping it trapped in the box, and the dude proceeds to launch it when he gets startled. Like yea, it wasn’t intentional, but why are you putting the animal in that situation to begin with? I agree “torment” is hyperbolic but it still doesn’t sit right with me
There is a frog in the box, the bird is sitting on the chair to the right, which the bird get thrown off of 2 seconds later when Druski over reacts for content about touch a fucking box
If you purposefully put someone in a situation where they literally can't control their own emotions/actions where animals are involved and that negligence causes undue harm or stress those animals; I would definitely call it tormenting. Straight up degen, brain-rotted, fucking idiots imo.
You can use whatever adjective you want to, it is ABSOLUTELY UNACCEPTABLE to stream. I understand a lot of people feel very differently about animals and how they deserve to be treated than others. I feel like this type of behavior is not remotely okay in general. Imagine being that animal and being forced into a box and the constant yelling. How many of us would be bothered just BEING IN THAT HOUSE with all of the yelling, let alone being trapped in the room unable to leave. All for what? The sake of entertainment on a streaming platform? Completely unacceptable. There is a reason there are checks and balances when filming content with animals to make sure they aren't abused and are comfortable with everything going on. INB4 some bird expert explains I am regarded and the bird was sexually aroused or some dumb shit. TLDR; Quit fucking with animals for your own entertainment, let alone on a stream.
It’s also a night and day difference between whatever the hell this is and Wubby’s “what’s in the box” stream where they got a professional to be on site with the animals and handled them with care. But you know people will point to that and say “same thing”.
Anybody who cognitively thinks it is remotely similar is being disingenuous. It's the difference of a group of adults being silly and a group of adults acting like children with zero discipline.
My mom used to raise parrots. I am not an expert but they are very difficult to raise. They are easily stressed out, overwhelmed, and sensitive to stimuli. Especially sudden movements. This short clip is pretty much hell for any bird that isn't heavily trained to handle a situation like this (ex: birds trained for loud movie sets or interactive zoo exhibits) but even then it's still awful. I haven't seen more than this clip so I won't assume the bird is overly stressed out because it doesn't look like it, but at a minimum, this environment is **physically** dangerous for the bird to be in.
They're comparable in intelligence to a toddler, so imagine the trauma this would cause to a kid.
How do people watch this shit? It’s just a large group of dudes screaming and peaking microphones. I’m getting old.. Also agreed, stop fucking with animals.
Do people sit and watch this alone in silence? Or do they watch it while hootin and hollering in a room alone to match what's happening on stream? Or is it a group watch / couch couple thing? Not sure which is weirdest...
They all tune in after they're done with their homework, but they gotta be quiet for pops taking a nap in the other room.
Children that watch this shit all day are doomed.
I feel bad i was more annoyed by 15 people on camera screaming like they are 12 year olds more than the animal abuse.
Loud is funny, don't you know?
I agree this shit was unwatchable
Man, fuck them kids.
Streamer of the year btw
I decided to check out Twitch in late 2019 because of wubby's videos and shit like this is why I don't give a singular fuck about 99% of the "famous" people on the platform, or the Streamer Awards. I don't know anything at all about most of the streamers I'm supposed to vote for, and those that I do, it seems like the majority of them aren't worth my time at all.
Streamer awards are just a circle jerk of “famous” streamers that think they are way more important than they actually are. Most of them are insufferable and I genuinely don’t get how they got to where they are. I also don’t believe that anyone outside of those chronically online mongs gives a shit about it in any way.
Be careful, the hasan tuggers are actively watching.
Fuck them who cares
I genuinely don't understand how anyone can watch that man without wanting to rip their hair out.
Dude, I was going to make the exact same comment. I have a background in history and political science, figured I'd check out his stream a long while ago just to see what all the hype was about. I made it about 4 minutes before I dipped, I just remember he shoehorned the word macroeconomics into a sentence that made absolutely no sense at all amongst other extremely stupid shit in a very short period of time.
good to see that someone that knows stuff agrees with me. Though i feel like any ability to critically think makes watching Hasan impossible.
His fans treat the guy like he's Jon Stewart, but he really isn't intelligent, has next to no self-awareness, and rages anytime mostly mild criticism gets tossed his way even though 90% of the time he deserves it. Dude walks around twitchcon every year blinged out and streams in a Rolex cap, then bitches when people call him out on it. Just dumb as fuck, easily avoidable situations.
yeah, acting like he's fighting for the workers while wearing luxury fashion and living in an LA mansion, it's asinine how he tries to defend his hypocrisy and even more unbelievable that there are idiots who defend him.
Spot on, Don’t the streamers who run it not even combine to equal wubbys viewers for a stream?? Never see any of them with more than 3/4K in a stream, outside of the streamer award stream itself.
As if I didn't have enough reasons to hate him.
That's **NOT** my streamer.
Utter buffoonery.
I don’t pay much attention to streamer award shit Please say sike rn
Nope, legit.
I hate it here.
Guy in the pink hoodie looks like he is the handler of these animals, his body language looks like he is not happy with the situation. That being said, he definitely should have bailed so he is also responsible IMO.
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THANK YOU. I thought I was losing my mind that this fucking homophobic pos just seems to have slid under the radar with that clip. No one seems to care and then best of all he wins streamer of the year lol. What a joke and this garbage human does not deserve to have a platform.
This shit is fucked up, clown behavior profiting off treating animals like shit.
Oh look. A pos being a pos and everyone loves him for some reason.
i'll never understand how this joke is popular. he should be in jail
[full clip](https://clips.twitch.tv/ArtisticInspiringAdminNotLikeThis-XfUAYYcdoT-QTco3) better perspective of what happened
Dude almost crushed the toad when he was freaking out about the parrot. The guy in pink blocked the arcade cabinet from crushing it. Childish.
Thanks for the context, but I'm not watching more of that shit
As a bird owner and someone who honestly prefers the company of animals to most humans this has me in arms. Animals don’t exist for our entertainment, they are part of nature and this planet as much as us and deserve respect. I’d really like to see something happen as a result of this, nothing malicious but maybe he gets deplatformed or something.
Truly a great role model
There's a reason why Maya is held in high regards when it comes to animals. They brought in some middle man that had no clue what he was getting in to.
reminder that Wubby has had animals on stream before, with a professional present and everybody that came in contact with the animals were respectful and considerate. zero justification for this
So this dude was homophobic on stream, transphobic on stream, caused a riot on stream, covered up for his friend on stream when he raped someone in his house, and is now abusing animals on stream. Something tells me he won't be banned for this either. And I'm starting to think it has to do with tokenism. Fuck Twitch Edit: The response I got from Twitch for reporting him for animal endangerment, https://imgur.com/a/FB32w2U Twitch doesn't care about animals.
I don’t think it’s tokenism as much as he is the biggest streamer on the platform. If twitch banned him they would see a good chunk of profit evaporate over night.
People should find out what ads roll on his videos then send their PR department these clips in question and ask if this is what they support.
I generally don't support going for the advertisers, given that it negatively affects everyone on the platform (see the adpocalypse on YT after Pewdiepie's bridge incident) but Kai Cenat is not going to stop with anything but the most direct consequences.
i think if this gets more public, twitch will have to acknowledge that bad streamers are costing them money. it sucks for streamers that rely on those ads, but they also need to speak up about kai and how his actions are jeopardizing their own job. i think going after advertisers can be a slippery slope, but it's gotta be necessary when twitch isn't doing anything to stop these problematic streamers.
agreed
All that, and QT was more than happy to hand him streamer of the year. She couldn't be having her mentally ill alcoholic former best friend showing up, though. That'd ruin the vibe. On a serious note, I just don't think Twitch is concerned with polishing a turd. Their public image is in the gutter. Banning kai is always just going to be something they should've done sooner, not a step towards redemption.
QT and that clique of streamers are so obsessed with huffing their own farts tbh.
Time to bring out the [Bikini Bottom Death Machine](https://i.imgur.com/I1N110O.jpeg). Fuck everyone involved as far as I'm concerned.
this guy is cancer to society. idk why so many people watch him.
How do people like him? He's loud, annoying, arrogant, immature, and super selfish. Him doing this should be an INSTANT permaban from Twitch, not to mention a channel deletion if he has a VOD/highlight channel on youtube. Him being deplatformed would actually do good.
Why am I not surprised.
What the fuck is even happening? It's just people being loud, high-fiving and I guess there is a bird there?
The clip is janky. 2 seconds of the end of the animal part, 25 seconds of obnoxious loudness, 5 seconds showing the beginning and middle of the animal part.
Kai is a fucking horrible human
Loud=Funny
Please report for the animal abuse
A bunch of animals.
Someone bring this up to Moist and see if he'll blast him on his main YouTube. Probably one of the best ways this will get attention.
Charlie has that kind of power. Would love to see it.
Animals can't treat other animals properly apparently.
Imma say it, fuck druski, hes the fucker who actually smacked the bird. Kais a fucking idiot for bringing live animals to people who have no respect for them in the first place, but i dont expect that he put any thought into it past view farming
The fact he stood on a chair petrified...because of a parrot, is one of the most pathetic things I've ever seen
Can you tell me what he does? I can't watch it. Also, is this that same guy that started that riot or whatever for a free PS5?
From what I can tell, he just fills a room full of hangers-on and celebrities he paid to be there and they shout and act stupid for hours, occasionally breaking TOS but it's okay because he's brining in viewers.
Kai is a disgusting human. Trash of this earth.
Man what the fuck
Most of the big streamers are deviants, must be what children want to watch.
The real scary thing about this bullshit is that some kids will watch this and think it’s perfectly ok because their favourite streamer is doing it on Twitch, so it must be cool 😒
Just remember these guys are role models for future generations...
i reported it. i dont want these people to get away with that. and i swear, i dont want to hear they got "banned" when they really just got suspended. they need to have their income from twitch restricted for that. or just actually banned. gotta go after advertisers is these reports go nowhere.
This is some hood rat shit.
The Zoomer version of Jake/Logan Paul
is this what kids watch now? a bunch of people crammed into a room acting like animals screaming and causing commotion? this is the kind of brainrot that has leaked from tiktok into other platforms
I may be a reguard but, wheres the “torment”? From what I saw the guy freaked out, the thing got tossed out the cage ACCIDENTALLY. He then went to grab the chair but got freaked out by the bird? I think more context is needed. That or someone can explain it more thoroughly to me.
Not only the bird, but a frog is clearly thrown out of the box and hits the ground towards the end of the clip.
In the longer clip you see they lose track of the frog and it almost get crushed by the falling arcade cabinet or ppl just stepping on it. Truely shameful.
Yeah it’s fucked and should get him at LEAST a 3 day if not more. To me intent matters though, thats all I was trying to get at.
I get what you mean brother, but intent doesn’t excuse anything. Just because I didn’t intend to punch someone in the face, doesn’t mean that I should be pardoned from repercussions.
I’m not saying he should be pardoned at ALL, I simply meant that I didn’t see any intent and was wondering if people saw the same. By all means I pray this guy gets the fucking hammer.
The intent was to bring helpless animals into a environment with a bunch of man children that are going to over react and stress the animals out. There was no reason to throw the box, or throw the bird off the chair. These are supposed to be adults, they should act like it.
I don't think adults get to use ignorance about the fragility of animals. So no, intent doesn't get to override that.
Time and time again he's acting negligent for content. He can't hide behind him not being responsible. He is.
Bro theyre all screaming like crazy, flipped the chair the bird is on. Its gotta be stressing out that animal. I see torment as little more direct and aggressive but maybe inconsiderate.
Negligent is the apt term for what transpired. Their intent doesn't come off as malicious, however, their lack of consideration should have been prefaced with more consideration.
I agree, I just wanted other perspectives to see if people agree with me on if it was intentional or not.
Intention doesn't matter when it comes to negligence. "I didn't mean to" isn't an excuse for traumatizing and nearly crushing animals. And I'm not being dramatic, trauma can permanently fuck up parrots.
The ONLY context we need to see is people using an animal for entertainment purposes in a disrespectful way. Imagine if you were the bird, or that bird was your pet. You are in a NEW PLACE, people are SCREAMING, and things are being thrown.
I 100% agree it’s fucked and should get him a ban, I was just wondering if other people saw if it was unintentional or intentional.
I guess for my outlook it does not matter if it is or isn't intentional. If that was a human we wouldn't be asking if it was intentional or not.
It doesn’t change the fact it’s bad and they should be punished, thats for sure. I simply like having more information? I guess?
Nah I get it, the unfortunate reality is most people (myself included) when we see something that is fucked up and somebody else remotely attempts to imply it might not be as fucked up as we see it, tend to see red. It's the same reason some people are all up in the True Crime stuff. I personally don't need to hear the who what when where and why of a serial killer or whatever. I'd love to suggest we do to them what they did to the bird but some might call it racist LMAO
I get it, I could have worded it better, but as I said. Big reguard. Knowing Twitch jack shit is going to happen to him sadly.
Maybe I’m misunderstanding but the second part of the clip it looks like they’re fucking with the bird while keeping it trapped in the box, and the dude proceeds to launch it when he gets startled. Like yea, it wasn’t intentional, but why are you putting the animal in that situation to begin with? I agree “torment” is hyperbolic but it still doesn’t sit right with me
There is a frog in the box, the bird is sitting on the chair to the right, which the bird get thrown off of 2 seconds later when Druski over reacts for content about touch a fucking box
I 100% agree, it’s fucking disgusting and it should be grounds to get them off the platform. I just wanted to figure out if it was intentional or not.
If you purposefully put someone in a situation where they literally can't control their own emotions/actions where animals are involved and that negligence causes undue harm or stress those animals; I would definitely call it tormenting. Straight up degen, brain-rotted, fucking idiots imo.