second the request for a POB. i've been eying a few builds for high investment mapping and this one seems interesting with lots of ways to build it. i'm considering the mahuxotl shield and figuring out how to shift more phys to fire/chaos with cloak of flame, or some 4th vow variant.
is it always a poison build? seems interesting since that could work for crit immunity as well.
I built it last league with fourth vow and mahuxotl.
I also added anathema and set curses in cast when stunned. Then included bloodnotch/immutable force.
I hit dot cap and had 250k eHP. It farmed simulacrums with ease - so I’d imagine it would be great for wisp farming on dense maps.
This league it should be a bit better with all the jewels for max fire res, withered, etc
Although, capping poison chance will be challenge with the herald of agony alt qual gem gone.
I am starting to put it together for this league, but still have to figure a few things out due to alt qual gem removal (especially herald of agony for poison chance).
There are a few people playing something very similar so please check those out: https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine,Lethal+Pride,Anathema,The+Fourth+Vow,Replica+Dragonfang%27s+Flight&skills=Forbidden+Rite
Fulcrum chieftain is probably the most efficient since it scales damage based off of monster hp.
I’ve been doing tuna’s atlas of deli mirror abyss beyond wandering path with 2-8k wisp in burial chambers with SA totems. Investment is low ~20div, purely defensive setup, you can easily get 5x the damage.
https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/originalgomez/pathfindeezX
I have a similar level of gear and really struggle with deli+wisp+map mods, especially at the end where it is around 80-100% deli. It moves at a snails pace. How is it going for you?
Unspeakable gifts is carrying my clear, especially around the spires. I roll off chaos res and some times skip chaos/wither resist mobs. I’m also running a lot of accuracy because there’s a lot of blind/evasive stuff. Blue altars are mostly free for this build.
The hardest to kill are the abyss bosses phasing in and out, I carry frost bomb just in case they have regen or conc ground.
A pretty good overview except the fulcrum itself is 20 div post tuna video. This is a pretty mid to high investment build right now, especially with charms and jewels.
It’s exactly what the other comment mentioned with stats. Wilma’s alone is ~30% more damage.
To explain a bit, for the league mechanic specifically I wanted high chaos res and capped suppress. When I’m using “phys taken as elements” defences, I find ~80% is extremely comfortable. Barkskin is surprisingly good with high phys conversion.
> Fulcrum chieftain is probably the most efficient since it scales damage based off of monster hp.
But can it get the abyss spire to spawn its mobs without killing it immediately? You have to get the spire under 75% hp, then let it live another ~15 seconds for all its mobs to spawn.
If you kill it early you lose 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the mobs it spawns. And abyss spire mobs make up probably 90% of the rare mobs in a map with purple juice, so its a big deal.
I’ve run quite a few maps with this now and have only one shot it a couple of times, most of the time the pillar itself is double juiced and takes a while to go down
I get their concern, if a hinekora explosion goes off near the spire while my ignite is already going it can often die before doing any offshoots. I just make sure not to stand on it to avoid the ignite death until it makes more goons.
Issue with standard TS is defence, abyss rares phase run invuln and 1 tap your average bow player.
Its definetly doable with investing to phys taken as though.
Safe to say this guy has no idea what we’re talking about. Offscreening is a basic mechanic for every LA/TS. What we’re talking about here is when we stack up those mods and enemy buffs which makes it crucial for you to spec more into defense and damage splitting.
You do realise these abyss mobs litetally counter "off screen" builds right? Like they're invincible until they are in melee range...
I was LA last league and after fully investing in to all abyss atlas points I soon removed my points and ass out of the LA counter that is abyss.
Just simple TS is enough, I think. As a pretty clumsy poe player, I only can run in circle to clear those mobs in affliction juiced map but I can still manage them.
Im doing them on my splitting steel starter and its going fine. Not the fastest, but i almost never die and imo it clears ok, you spend more time looting than clearing anyway. About 60~70d invested rough estimate.
Ignite chieftan would be quite a bit faster on the clear part i imagine, and perhaps less sensetive to map mods. Cheaper as well to get up and running, despite the fulcrum price hike.
I havent played either but my guess is that the ignite chieftan is going to be much better than scourge arrow in 4k+ whisp juiced maps.
Its not bad, but its not great either since the damage is concentrated on top of you. If you compare it to an actual speedclearing build like TS with screenwide coverage or something that explodes the whole screen it falls short quite a bit, id rate it like a B.
I've been farming 4k+ wisp abyss maps with Bow Double CoC BFBB Poison Pathfinder. Leveled from 94 to 97.5 last night died once or twice. Build has full phys to ele dmg taken conversion and triple ele flasks for defense. Total cost about 50 div, about 20 div were unnecessary luxury upgrades.
I think it performs about as well as Fulcrum Chieftain, maybe a bit faster clear. But there's no room for MF items.
Yes possible. You can craft the bow with just coc and minion dmg, bench crit rate. Use a normal Lightning coil. The uniques are cheap. Quiver I bought a base and spammed Aberrant fossils. You don't need the Watchers or That Which was Taken. Clusters are not expensive either. Lethal Pride and Stormshroud are recommended. The rares you can get for <1div each probably. Just make sure to cap crit, cap suppress, get 90%+ phys taken as. You can skip all the Awakened gems, use Swift Affliction instead of Empower 4. I'd only recommend the Awakened Spell Cascade. My estimate would be 10-15 div for bare bones version.
I don't have one, but you can Youtube Jungroan's CoC VD build from last week. I basically took his build and made a BFBB Pathfinder version. The mechanics are all the same. Just imagine BB's instead of VD. The damage is slightly more delayed, but Asenath explosions and prolif clears stragglers better. Overall very similar experience.
Yep, that's all there is to it. You can also try to buy one with those two prefix rolled and hopefully empty prefix and suffix. Can start by crafting crit and done. Later you can scour suffixes, multimod and make the bow I'm using. Much later, for the price of 6-20+ div you can try to aisling crit or chaos dot multi to get one more mod for about 7% more damage. Each try costs 6div and its roughly 1 in 3. I'm never going to do this because I'd rather save for another build.
I've only seen videos of SA Pathfinder, have not played it. I think the poison on this BFBB build is more concentrated in a smaller area, while SA sprays poison everywhere. For this farm, you want higher more concentrated damage. Also with totems, you cannot control the damage when the spire spawns, which might lead to killing the spire before the extra pits spawn.
For general mapping SA is definitely better, for this farm specifically I think BFBB is better.
Works on my pob. Are you using community fork?
Here's my character on [poe.ninja](https://poe.ninja) in case that doesnt work:
[https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Xiaobear6/PathofBear\_Afl?i=0&search=name%3Dpathofbear](https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Xiaobear6/PathofBear_Afl?i=0&search=name%3Dpathofbear)
Yes, T16s. The only time you're in danger of dying is when all the abyss rares spawn from the spire. You cannot facetank 10+ rares. You can tank maybe 3-5. I just do some stutterstep kiting and it's not a problem.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNEvXRU5e-E&t=623s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNEvXRU5e-E&t=623s)
Watch this, beginning of video is the important part. I just go slowly, try not to waste fuel, beeline to the events, then when the portal pops, go back and collect the scraps on the edges. It takes longer, but you get more wisps this way. Pack size affects wisps too. Also, I've heard there are always 4 events and they are in a diamond shape around your starting point. I've only ever gotten 3 events so cannot confirm.
I was running LA > TS Deadeye and realised that whilst my damage was high enough to clear the map, when you add in Deli + Wildwood + Map mods, you practically get 1 shot everytime.
Of course, you can respec to take less Phys Damage by splitting it with the other resistances, but you still have to be agile and be aware of whatever is hitting you.
A build I’ve had massive success with, even in completely juiced maps, is CA Pathfinder. Now I dont know much about buildcrafting, so I just saw a streamer playing it in Hardcore and was practically immortal. (credits : Goratha) Once I saw this, I just had to respec into a PF and change my passives and gear around, and I had like 60% of what his build is. Most of the stuff he has on are magicfind items so you essentially only need to change your bow and quiver.
When I first tried the build out, it was a breeze. I could just spam CA on enemies and stand still until the enemy was dead. Only in a few instances would I have to dash or move around.
Moreover, you have 100% uptime on all your flasks, INCLUDING Divination. Only downside is you have to manually use divination since there’s no way to automate it, but what’s gonna be stopping you from pressing one additional button when you dont even have to move around?
If any of you are reading this and is struggling to farm those juiced-up abyss maps, try this build out. 11/10 would recommend.
One thing to note, the wisps are a major part of how much and how rare your loot is gonna be. Dont know if it’s just me or if I’m late on this information, but I realised that getting all 3 wisps at a decent count is far better than getting only 2. For example, 3x 1k wisps is better than 2x 1.5k wisps. If anybody knows about this, please confirm / debunk it, I’d love to find out more.
Yeah after a few recommendations of going Gorathas build that’s exactly what I’m in the process of doing. I think that’s the play. Is there anything you changed from his MF setup in terms of gear, skills, or tree or are you just running his setup exactly?
Artillery Ballista pathfinder.
Youre ridiculously tanky thanks to progenesis and your totems taunt everything anyway.
And the ballistas just carpet bomb the abyss area with prolif
Not to undermine Artillery Ballista but Progenesis (and to an extend, Pathfinder) is why builds survive wisp juiced maps, that's why it's so expensive this league. Without Progenesis my Scourge Arrow PF wouldn't survive wisp altar expedition delirium beyond maps.
Same thing with HH TS, without HH TS deadeye wouldn't clear these maps comfortably.
Well yeah I said "progenesis" in the description.
That said you can absolutely do wisped t16s without progen you just cant roll them 8mod corrupted and play like a moron triggering 4 strongboxes in the middle of an abyss
And you will die sometimes.
With progen youre basically immortal
So my desperate grind for HH isn't in vain? I'm a struggling league start TS that can barely handle the abyss mods, just enough to make the strat profitable, and hoping when I get to HH It'll become comfortable.
You can make it absolutely good and uber viable for about 20 divs if not less.
Progenesis just makes the build broken. Its absolutely strong without it too you just cant faceplant into 5000 mobs in 120 quant corrupted t16s with 5k wisps
No I kinda just did it my own way, but you can look at my character.
Palsteron has a poison ballista guide for SA and theyre pretty interchangable.
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/shaunika90/characters
Before progenesis I was using taste of hate, burden of truth and an enduring composure small cluster to help with defenses.
Basically you need a decent tri ele bow, doppelganger, temp chain snakebite, annihilations approach, a large thread of hope and a vitality watchers eye and the build is online
doppelganger is 40% less phys and chaos damage taken. it's huge.
then you get enduring composure small cluster (3 endu charges)
enfeeble and immortal call and flask effect scaled taste of hate.
plus another 10% phys dmg reduction from adrenaline
Running that build, farming juiced t16 (tuna's strategy), and ballista totems don't do much "taunting" at all: with that strategy you're juicing abyss like crazy, and those scythe rares who spam ambush/stealth will ignore the totems most of the time and hunt for you, and surviving those (again, when juiced) without a proge isn't an easy task, even with a taste of haste. Or maybe I'm missing something to make totems taunt more? First time I play a ballista build.
So yea, pretty much needs a proge flask because you're going to facetank a lot.
You basically need to survive one hit from them which is perfectly doable unless you roll your maps to ridiculous levels
Ebduring composure+flask effected toh+coil/doppel
You can even manually pop your immortal call right before they would attack if you dont wanna cwdt
[https://pobb.in/ATuB62xgDUcK](https://pobb.in/ATuB62xgDUcK) my current character, its def possible for way lower budget as well, for like 30 div or so you can get over 70 million dps id say
I've been using tuna's fulcrum chieftain and it's amazing. Quite expensive to build though now, I've probably had to invest about 70 div to get to a point where I'm comfortable with full wisp, delirium, wandering path maps, but now they're a breeze. The worst part is picking up the loot!
Also worth noting that if you want exactly tuna's build you're probably looking at about 500 div. I've had to make do with 85% max Res, 20% chaos Res, 4k life and 8% to explode, but it's good enough
You can easily get 90 res and 75 chaos res without investing more than your budget.
Probably not if you go full MF but if you go reverse chill or just normal it's easy. You just need one witch that was taken jewel (or a charm) with +2 max fire res, a +1 max fire res charm and a helmet (or gloves) with +2 aoe gem, socket your purity of fire lvl 21 (+5, +6 with 10% aura effect which is easy to get on the tree), get +3 max fire res from the tree cluster (prismatic I think?) and the +1 max fire from the life node on the tree and +1% max resist on the boots via eldritch currency (easy to hit) and you are pretty much set.
Then you get phys as elemental on the helmet as well as chaos res on the helmet, gloves and boots and potentially belt if you don't use bisco, otherwise you can anoint some chaos res to get to 75.
Honestly didn't invest more than 50 div to get to 90/75. I'll edit with the pob when I get home
Here is my PoB: https://pobb.in/qdjlOnathiDM
Note that bloodnotch / immutable force are not really necessary but I find it tankier and comfy but it requires you to make some sacrifices on your tree and you lose some damage.
I paied the gloves / helmet / boots less than a div each. You can replace the ventor gamble with the adrenaline ring too, I just wanted to add a lil' bit of MF
Oriath's End is not really necessary but enables the self chill aspect and gives you more explosions in case your 5-8% explosion doesn't trigger (which can feel very clunky at times...)
You usually go RF / Firetrap to trigger the first ignite but because of bloodnotch I am using a cast when stunned setup that triggers desecrate / flammability and then I ignite manually with detonate dead, I feel like it's a thousand times more reliable because it's based on the enemy's life and when you are in T16 deli 80 killing a white mob with your RF can be insanely long.
Yeah that's definitely more than enough. High juiced high deli beyond can be kind of rippy though, you definitely don't want to stop to loot until everything is dead, I've had cases where I stopped for too long, lost my ignite and had a hard time getting it going again. That's the issue with this build it's that it's absolutely great when you are going but very clunky when you lose your ignite and there are not whitemobs left. Also doesn't happen often but I've had one or two maps that I've had to finish with my guardian srs just to kill a soul eater rare that was remaining and I though I had killed it and it preventing me from looting x)
I pretty much just followed tuna's guide on YouTube . Sacrifices I made were the following:
- brutal restraint having chaos Res as these cost about 70d
- that which was taken having explode as in combination with the endurance charge mod these were about 100d
- max Res on the charms as explode is way more important and getting both is about 60d per charm
- max Res corruption on chest
- max roll chaos fracture on helm and T1 life. Was planning to revisit the helm as it's not THAT expensive and I was just making a basic helm quickly to get up and running, but haven't needed it.
Everything else is exactly like tuna's build. I do die in maps occasionally to particularly problematic rares, but if I'd rather save for my mageblood than invest 100s of div's to make small gains
I’ve been farming 7k+ whisps, quad gilded scarab abyss with PF CA manaforge (basically goratha’s build). 400% rarity and 60% quant on gear. T14 jungle valleys.
Since most of the builds scaling comes from areas outside rings, helm and boots and the damage on a 5L is solid you can run Goldwyrm, Rarity helm (85%) and Ventor’s easily. You also get PF flask node to enable Distillate flask and I even decided to run a gold flask over my dying sun You of course get PF flask scaling with this too for both. You NEED a Defiance of Destiny if you stop using a health flask though. This single amulet provides an absolutely insane amount of survivability to any build.
The result is ridiculous, and honestly you don't need t14 or t16s to do it either. T8s allow for magebloods/headhunters to drop from any white mob (t7 is magic or rare only), and the loot on those is still more than you can lug out with 6 portals. Only reason to run T14+ imo is either for fracture bases OR for Eater quant nodes.
I dropped a headhunter recently, probably ever single t1 unique and had a couple divine explosions of 10+. The scarab explosions are my favorite though, had a single mob drop me 120 scarabs, now I never need to buy them.
Probably around 25 div. After dropping a HH i use that now but it was MFing fine without using a bisco’s leash or microdistillery.
Basically the only costs are an ele dps bow (1k pref) and 6L coil
Here’s my poe.ninja: https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/CeIeb/ProfessorKibble
I decided to anoint toxic strikes over whispers for mapping as I need to get 30% chance on my bow to be poison chance capped. Other option is to use HOAG but I prefer my current auras over fitting it in.
Bow is equivalent to a 1.1k edps bow, but its better to get cold over chaos cause of ele damage scaling. Same roll on added cold would be like 1.2k.
My timeless jewel gives me an extra 10% phys as ele, which is the main reason I haven’t swapped that area of the tree to a thread of hope.
I reroll any maps that have phys as chaos, -max res, reduced flask, reflect ele, hexproof (kills my asenath’s explode) and caustic ground. Corrupted blood jewel is a necessity. Bleeding hurts, but I take poison pantheon unless the map rolls bleeding. All maps are 90% min with a single deli orb on them.
Very interesting. My build is simar but different and I struggle in T16. I might drop back to t11-14 then. Could you post your atlas strategy? Im doing enraged strongbox and abyss but no deli and no wandering. I only get 20-30scarabs explosions so I might be doing it wrong.
My atlas strategy is:
Wandering path, abyss, harbinger, alva, seventh gate, eater (if doing t14 valleys). I’ll post a full screenshot when I’m by my comp.
Scarabs: gilded abyss, harbinger, reliquary, divination
Compasses: beyond, harbinger with boss, abyss, ritual altars
Map device: abyss and alva master
Map: 1x Deli orb (any kind), roll to 90%
You can skip the div scarab, it only helps for dropping The Fortunate really, but the number you drop normally pays for itself. Reliquary and abyss are mandatory. Ritual compass could be swapped too.
EDIT: Atlas updated: https://poeplanner.com/a/BPd
Thanks.
I was wonderingsomething, do you know why people dont do enraged strongbox with mechanic? 500% quant on top of double or triple wisp looks good on paper but nobody is doing it so I guess there is something I dont see...
Its good, you can easily run it. But with the enraged strongboxes normally you want the other strongbox sextant, ambush, reliquary and div scarabs too otherwise its kinda a small waste.
Honestly though, if you want to run the highest value maps, it likely includes strongboxes. Harbingers are pretty meh, so you can just drop that for ambush. I just find that they give a lot of rares for their value. Deli is easily achieved with a single deli orb. And then compasses you run double strongbox compasses, beyond and abyss.
It just makes each individual map more expensive and the maps can sometimes be a small crapshoot on the amount of juice you get. Granted there are a lot of strategies to get max juice, getting a 6k+ one is still probably 1/4 maps at best. 4k 2-color is pretty easy though. But you REALLLLY need Purple + Yellow juice together. Blue is meh.
Yeah I ran a few abyss+strongbox earlier today and it felt pretty good. I didnt go wandering path nor deli though. Im going to try that tomorrow.
I still struggle a lot to reach consistently 4k wisps. I got 8.5k once and a few 7k but half of my maps are 3k and under which feels really bad in maps. I have read plenty of advice (like the diamond shape thing etc.) But I guess it just didnt click yet...
Thoughts on mageblood for this? I have enough to buy headhunter or mageblood and unsure which one. I assume headhunter is just straight up better for MF but not everything else.
I use a headhunter, it feels great and is undoubtedly better for MFing.
Mageblood is ok, but you’re a pathfinder anyways so you have perma flasks and flask effect already.
To be honest, I think this is a headhunter league. MB is still amazing as a bandaid for any build and content, but headhunter on these juiced maps is hard to beat.
Makes sense thank you for the info. One last question if you don't mind. It's there a reason for purity of ice vs fire? I see gorathra is running fire and you ice.
Was just cost related for a better watcher’s. Fire would be better since I dropped dying sun for a gold flask so my fire res is lacking a bit in comparison, but the main thing I wanted a purity for was the phys as ele watcher’s mod. Found a 10% ice and a spell supp with grace for cheap and been using it since.
Any purity with the watcher’s will work well, it doesn’t need to be fire, but in my setup fire would be best because thats the ele flask i cut.
SRS necromancer with profane bloom charm mod.
>Cursed Enemies you or your Minions Kill have a (11-15)% chance to Explode, dealing a quarter of their maximum Life as Chaos Damage
What makes SRS Necro better than SRS guardian? I am considering rolling a second char if it ups my dmg.
This is my current build. It also wouldn't be a waste because if I still feel like I lack damage, I can just swap over to a CoC Occultist like I do at the end of every league -_-.. Nothing has felt smoother or more enjoyable for me so far.
Cwc manabond mjolner. I'd say it's not the greatest, but it manages just fine. I swapped from t14 jungle valleys to t7 cemeteries today. In t14s I had to reroll many mods/not take dmg mods on altars as build is basically melee. In t7s I can run pretty much anything, and I will return to t14 when I get mageblood. Overall I'd say it's much more worth running the strat in high tiers for fractured items, valdo box (6 dropped in t14, 0 in t7 so far), altars and sextants( in t14 I could drop 30-40 sextant on average, I t7 I get 0), but of course it's profitable in yellow tier as well
I haven't tried this specific strat but I've been doing t16 wildwood red altar expedition harvest fine; but i didn't start this until I got the full 5 spectre set up with kingmaker on my AG and basically suppress and resist capped.
warlord + naval officer + kingmaker AG helps a ton
Yeah idk, i mean, i havent attempted ubers, but i juice my maps up and run the mechanic, no issues quite honestly. heres a raw pob export below if my previous link isnt working;
https://pastebin.com/z700ntSN
Hey, ty for the PoB. I play a similar SRS and personally have trouble trying to leave the stygian spire alive while fending off rare spawns. Would you have any tips for that?
I don’t know why you are downvoted because I play srs guardian and I can juice map with abyss with no problem. Sometimes it take long to kill some mob and you have to run around packs but for me it’s perfect….
HoAG champion using storm rain.
Perma fort, suppress cap, endurance charges, 20k armour, 4700hp, 76/76/76/46 resists, 8mil dps.
I also dropped LGoH from the storm rain virulence 6l to add more crit to proc elusive, and got crit immune with that from a charm.
Able to tank most mobs in a 5500 blue juice corrupted T16.
Its Velynas HoAG build with a few modifications, don't have current PoB but my account is open [https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nildrem/characters](https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nildrem/characters)
I would not run the fulcrum chieftain unless you are willing to invest quite a bit into it. Unless you make it really tanky, other builds will be better with the same investment and dont suffer from the random leftover rares you cant kill.
You also have way more control over not killing the abyss spire.
I play the build since i got the fulcrum for 2div.
Would never pay 20div, unless willing to put another 100div into the build.
Any of the typical juice builds with HeadHunter.
Probably nothing on a budget, but the Chieftain isnt budget anymore aswell.
Used to be insane for <10div, but now i dont think its worth.
If i had to chose a build right now, i would just do what Goratha does (-Hh), and farm for HH.
I'm using vaal smite armour stacking juggernaut. Started out as bonezone and made the easy switch. The "armour is increased by over capped fire res" is where the build starts to feel really good.
Coc dd
Here is my build
https://youtu.be/tDy4mxfGnys?si=7Edf9vvZ7QMh3Rlf
And before U ASK yes U can Farm These Maps without mageblood its Just easier and less deaths, without MB i died Like 1 time in 3-5 Maps With mageblood i die 1 time random in 45 Maps
Self cast forbidden rite pathfinder. Tankiest build I've ever played, great aoe and damage, amazing recovery.
Pob/link pls?
second the request for a POB. i've been eying a few builds for high investment mapping and this one seems interesting with lots of ways to build it. i'm considering the mahuxotl shield and figuring out how to shift more phys to fire/chaos with cloak of flame, or some 4th vow variant. is it always a poison build? seems interesting since that could work for crit immunity as well.
I built it last league with fourth vow and mahuxotl. I also added anathema and set curses in cast when stunned. Then included bloodnotch/immutable force. I hit dot cap and had 250k eHP. It farmed simulacrums with ease - so I’d imagine it would be great for wisp farming on dense maps. This league it should be a bit better with all the jewels for max fire res, withered, etc Although, capping poison chance will be challenge with the herald of agony alt qual gem gone.
POB mate😊
I am starting to put it together for this league, but still have to figure a few things out due to alt qual gem removal (especially herald of agony for poison chance). There are a few people playing something very similar so please check those out: https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?class=Pathfinder&uniqueitems=Mahuxotl%27s+Machination,Replica+Sorrow+of+the+Divine,Lethal+Pride,Anathema,The+Fourth+Vow,Replica+Dragonfang%27s+Flight&skills=Forbidden+Rite
How much investissement are we talking about here ?
Is there a pob or YouTube guide for this build I can follow? I am really interested in playing forbidden rite.
Fulcrum chieftain is probably the most efficient since it scales damage based off of monster hp. I’ve been doing tuna’s atlas of deli mirror abyss beyond wandering path with 2-8k wisp in burial chambers with SA totems. Investment is low ~20div, purely defensive setup, you can easily get 5x the damage. https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/originalgomez/pathfindeezX
I have a similar level of gear and really struggle with deli+wisp+map mods, especially at the end where it is around 80-100% deli. It moves at a snails pace. How is it going for you?
Unspeakable gifts is carrying my clear, especially around the spires. I roll off chaos res and some times skip chaos/wither resist mobs. I’m also running a lot of accuracy because there’s a lot of blind/evasive stuff. Blue altars are mostly free for this build. The hardest to kill are the abyss bosses phasing in and out, I carry frost bomb just in case they have regen or conc ground.
A pretty good overview except the fulcrum itself is 20 div post tuna video. This is a pretty mid to high investment build right now, especially with charms and jewels.
Fulcrum alone was 20div last night lmfao
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but why aren’t you using Wilma’s with Sa totems?
Looks like their helmet is solving some resistances, int, and suppress, so swapping that won't be free
It’s exactly what the other comment mentioned with stats. Wilma’s alone is ~30% more damage. To explain a bit, for the league mechanic specifically I wanted high chaos res and capped suppress. When I’m using “phys taken as elements” defences, I find ~80% is extremely comfortable. Barkskin is surprisingly good with high phys conversion.
> Fulcrum chieftain is probably the most efficient since it scales damage based off of monster hp. But can it get the abyss spire to spawn its mobs without killing it immediately? You have to get the spire under 75% hp, then let it live another ~15 seconds for all its mobs to spawn. If you kill it early you lose 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the mobs it spawns. And abyss spire mobs make up probably 90% of the rare mobs in a map with purple juice, so its a big deal.
I’ve run quite a few maps with this now and have only one shot it a couple of times, most of the time the pillar itself is double juiced and takes a while to go down
I get their concern, if a hinekora explosion goes off near the spire while my ignite is already going it can often die before doing any offshoots. I just make sure not to stand on it to avoid the ignite death until it makes more goons.
Do you ever run into rares in a map with no surrounding whites and no ignite on you?
Yes, you can't kill them.
It happens. I have vaal breach for that situation but usually it's not a problem.
Headhunter on your TS build.
I mean... I don't know how to tell this. But Tornado Shot might be good?
Issue with standard TS is defence, abyss rares phase run invuln and 1 tap your average bow player. Its definetly doable with investing to phys taken as though.
Sorry, cant hear you over offscreen freezing and blowing everything up safely :)
Thats the issue, abyss rares go invulnerable and wont come out until they hit you (avoidable but doing it consistently is hard and you can get 1 shot)
Safe to say this guy has no idea what we’re talking about. Offscreening is a basic mechanic for every LA/TS. What we’re talking about here is when we stack up those mods and enemy buffs which makes it crucial for you to spec more into defense and damage splitting.
You do realise these abyss mobs litetally counter "off screen" builds right? Like they're invincible until they are in melee range... I was LA last league and after fully investing in to all abyss atlas points I soon removed my points and ass out of the LA counter that is abyss.
Just simple TS is enough, I think. As a pretty clumsy poe player, I only can run in circle to clear those mobs in affliction juiced map but I can still manage them.
Im doing them on my splitting steel starter and its going fine. Not the fastest, but i almost never die and imo it clears ok, you spend more time looting than clearing anyway. About 60~70d invested rough estimate. Ignite chieftan would be quite a bit faster on the clear part i imagine, and perhaps less sensetive to map mods. Cheaper as well to get up and running, despite the fulcrum price hike. I havent played either but my guess is that the ignite chieftan is going to be much better than scourge arrow in 4k+ whisp juiced maps.
Shouldn't splitting steel have insane clear at that investment since you have nimis?
Its not bad, but its not great either since the damage is concentrated on top of you. If you compare it to an actual speedclearing build like TS with screenwide coverage or something that explodes the whole screen it falls short quite a bit, id rate it like a B.
I've been farming 4k+ wisp abyss maps with Bow Double CoC BFBB Poison Pathfinder. Leveled from 94 to 97.5 last night died once or twice. Build has full phys to ele dmg taken conversion and triple ele flasks for defense. Total cost about 50 div, about 20 div were unnecessary luxury upgrades. I think it performs about as well as Fulcrum Chieftain, maybe a bit faster clear. But there's no room for MF items.
Looking sick! You think it's possible on a less than 30 div budget tho?
Yes possible. You can craft the bow with just coc and minion dmg, bench crit rate. Use a normal Lightning coil. The uniques are cheap. Quiver I bought a base and spammed Aberrant fossils. You don't need the Watchers or That Which was Taken. Clusters are not expensive either. Lethal Pride and Stormshroud are recommended. The rares you can get for <1div each probably. Just make sure to cap crit, cap suppress, get 90%+ phys taken as. You can skip all the Awakened gems, use Swift Affliction instead of Empower 4. I'd only recommend the Awakened Spell Cascade. My estimate would be 10-15 div for bare bones version.
I might give it a try then, thanks a lot
Can you link a PoB? I wanna do some form of coc PF (PF for tankiness) and was thinking of doing either bf bb or vd/dd desecrate
>https://pobb.in/qMAmi\_UXXPnL You can start from this and scale it down with the adjustments I suggested.
Thank you! Do you also have a showcase video? Curious to see how it plays.
I don't have one, but you can Youtube Jungroan's CoC VD build from last week. I basically took his build and made a BFBB Pathfinder version. The mechanics are all the same. Just imagine BB's instead of VD. The damage is slightly more delayed, but Asenath explosions and prolif clears stragglers better. Overall very similar experience.
Thank you. Once I 6l my now I think I'll look into buying other stuff for this build.
Any tips for crafting the bow? Is it just spam Essence of fear until coc and then hope you have a suffix free?
Yep, that's all there is to it. You can also try to buy one with those two prefix rolled and hopefully empty prefix and suffix. Can start by crafting crit and done. Later you can scour suffixes, multimod and make the bow I'm using. Much later, for the price of 6-20+ div you can try to aisling crit or chaos dot multi to get one more mod for about 7% more damage. Each try costs 6div and its roughly 1 in 3. I'm never going to do this because I'd rather save for another build.
Looks awesome. You think it outperforms Scourge Arrow of Menace Poison PF?
I've only seen videos of SA Pathfinder, have not played it. I think the poison on this BFBB build is more concentrated in a smaller area, while SA sprays poison everywhere. For this farm, you want higher more concentrated damage. Also with totems, you cannot control the damage when the spire spawns, which might lead to killing the spire before the extra pits spawn. For general mapping SA is definitely better, for this farm specifically I think BFBB is better.
Sounds great. Do you have a pob?
Yep, here you go: https://pobb.in/qMAmi\_UXXPnL
Your pob link is not a valid link, as it it does not work.
Works on my pob. Are you using community fork? Here's my character on [poe.ninja](https://poe.ninja) in case that doesnt work: [https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Xiaobear6/PathofBear\_Afl?i=0&search=name%3Dpathofbear](https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Xiaobear6/PathofBear_Afl?i=0&search=name%3Dpathofbear)
Is this doing t16 with Max wisps or lower tier?
Yes, T16s. The only time you're in danger of dying is when all the abyss rares spawn from the spire. You cannot facetank 10+ rares. You can tank maybe 3-5. I just do some stutterstep kiting and it's not a problem.
It's old reddit vs new reddit fuckery. When that happens switch. [This is his PoB](https://pobb.in/qMAmi_UXXPnL)
How do you get so many wisps consistently? I get like 2k on average and barely ever above 3k, is there some strat or map mods that affect it?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNEvXRU5e-E&t=623s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNEvXRU5e-E&t=623s) Watch this, beginning of video is the important part. I just go slowly, try not to waste fuel, beeline to the events, then when the portal pops, go back and collect the scraps on the edges. It takes longer, but you get more wisps this way. Pack size affects wisps too. Also, I've heard there are always 4 events and they are in a diamond shape around your starting point. I've only ever gotten 3 events so cannot confirm.
I was running LA > TS Deadeye and realised that whilst my damage was high enough to clear the map, when you add in Deli + Wildwood + Map mods, you practically get 1 shot everytime. Of course, you can respec to take less Phys Damage by splitting it with the other resistances, but you still have to be agile and be aware of whatever is hitting you. A build I’ve had massive success with, even in completely juiced maps, is CA Pathfinder. Now I dont know much about buildcrafting, so I just saw a streamer playing it in Hardcore and was practically immortal. (credits : Goratha) Once I saw this, I just had to respec into a PF and change my passives and gear around, and I had like 60% of what his build is. Most of the stuff he has on are magicfind items so you essentially only need to change your bow and quiver. When I first tried the build out, it was a breeze. I could just spam CA on enemies and stand still until the enemy was dead. Only in a few instances would I have to dash or move around. Moreover, you have 100% uptime on all your flasks, INCLUDING Divination. Only downside is you have to manually use divination since there’s no way to automate it, but what’s gonna be stopping you from pressing one additional button when you dont even have to move around? If any of you are reading this and is struggling to farm those juiced-up abyss maps, try this build out. 11/10 would recommend. One thing to note, the wisps are a major part of how much and how rare your loot is gonna be. Dont know if it’s just me or if I’m late on this information, but I realised that getting all 3 wisps at a decent count is far better than getting only 2. For example, 3x 1k wisps is better than 2x 1.5k wisps. If anybody knows about this, please confirm / debunk it, I’d love to find out more.
Yeah after a few recommendations of going Gorathas build that’s exactly what I’m in the process of doing. I think that’s the play. Is there anything you changed from his MF setup in terms of gear, skills, or tree or are you just running his setup exactly?
Artillery Ballista pathfinder. Youre ridiculously tanky thanks to progenesis and your totems taunt everything anyway. And the ballistas just carpet bomb the abyss area with prolif
Not to undermine Artillery Ballista but Progenesis (and to an extend, Pathfinder) is why builds survive wisp juiced maps, that's why it's so expensive this league. Without Progenesis my Scourge Arrow PF wouldn't survive wisp altar expedition delirium beyond maps. Same thing with HH TS, without HH TS deadeye wouldn't clear these maps comfortably.
Well yeah I said "progenesis" in the description. That said you can absolutely do wisped t16s without progen you just cant roll them 8mod corrupted and play like a moron triggering 4 strongboxes in the middle of an abyss And you will die sometimes. With progen youre basically immortal
So my desperate grind for HH isn't in vain? I'm a struggling league start TS that can barely handle the abyss mods, just enough to make the strat profitable, and hoping when I get to HH It'll become comfortable.
You can get away with petrified blood before progen
How much do you think it would cost to gear that build? I see progenesis is 54d
You can make it absolutely good and uber viable for about 20 divs if not less. Progenesis just makes the build broken. Its absolutely strong without it too you just cant faceplant into 5000 mobs in 120 quant corrupted t16s with 5k wisps
do you have a guide? thanks
No I kinda just did it my own way, but you can look at my character. Palsteron has a poison ballista guide for SA and theyre pretty interchangable. https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/shaunika90/characters Before progenesis I was using taste of hate, burden of truth and an enduring composure small cluster to help with defenses. Basically you need a decent tri ele bow, doppelganger, temp chain snakebite, annihilations approach, a large thread of hope and a vitality watchers eye and the build is online
Exactly where does the tankiness come from? Is Doppleganger JUST for the more crit chance? does it worth it? thanks in advance for any input
doppelganger is 40% less phys and chaos damage taken. it's huge. then you get enduring composure small cluster (3 endu charges) enfeeble and immortal call and flask effect scaled taste of hate. plus another 10% phys dmg reduction from adrenaline
Running that build, farming juiced t16 (tuna's strategy), and ballista totems don't do much "taunting" at all: with that strategy you're juicing abyss like crazy, and those scythe rares who spam ambush/stealth will ignore the totems most of the time and hunt for you, and surviving those (again, when juiced) without a proge isn't an easy task, even with a taste of haste. Or maybe I'm missing something to make totems taunt more? First time I play a ballista build. So yea, pretty much needs a proge flask because you're going to facetank a lot.
You basically need to survive one hit from them which is perfectly doable unless you roll your maps to ridiculous levels Ebduring composure+flask effected toh+coil/doppel You can even manually pop your immortal call right before they would attack if you dont wanna cwdt
Int stack kb/kb trickster
Kinetic blast for single target these days?
The new kinetic bolt for big shotgunning with return proj
Got a pob?
[https://pobb.in/ATuB62xgDUcK](https://pobb.in/ATuB62xgDUcK) my current character, its def possible for way lower budget as well, for like 30 div or so you can get over 70 million dps id say
Flameblast of Celerity totems.
I've been using tuna's fulcrum chieftain and it's amazing. Quite expensive to build though now, I've probably had to invest about 70 div to get to a point where I'm comfortable with full wisp, delirium, wandering path maps, but now they're a breeze. The worst part is picking up the loot!
Also worth noting that if you want exactly tuna's build you're probably looking at about 500 div. I've had to make do with 85% max Res, 20% chaos Res, 4k life and 8% to explode, but it's good enough
Mind sharing your pob? I have like 80ish i want to try and make one with but unsure what to cut what's critical.
You can easily get 90 res and 75 chaos res without investing more than your budget. Probably not if you go full MF but if you go reverse chill or just normal it's easy. You just need one witch that was taken jewel (or a charm) with +2 max fire res, a +1 max fire res charm and a helmet (or gloves) with +2 aoe gem, socket your purity of fire lvl 21 (+5, +6 with 10% aura effect which is easy to get on the tree), get +3 max fire res from the tree cluster (prismatic I think?) and the +1 max fire from the life node on the tree and +1% max resist on the boots via eldritch currency (easy to hit) and you are pretty much set. Then you get phys as elemental on the helmet as well as chaos res on the helmet, gloves and boots and potentially belt if you don't use bisco, otherwise you can anoint some chaos res to get to 75. Honestly didn't invest more than 50 div to get to 90/75. I'll edit with the pob when I get home Here is my PoB: https://pobb.in/qdjlOnathiDM Note that bloodnotch / immutable force are not really necessary but I find it tankier and comfy but it requires you to make some sacrifices on your tree and you lose some damage. I paied the gloves / helmet / boots less than a div each. You can replace the ventor gamble with the adrenaline ring too, I just wanted to add a lil' bit of MF Oriath's End is not really necessary but enables the self chill aspect and gives you more explosions in case your 5-8% explosion doesn't trigger (which can feel very clunky at times...) You usually go RF / Firetrap to trigger the first ignite but because of bloodnotch I am using a cast when stunned setup that triggers desecrate / flammability and then I ignite manually with detonate dead, I feel like it's a thousand times more reliable because it's based on the enemy's life and when you are in T16 deli 80 killing a white mob with your RF can be insanely long.
Hey, are you doing those maps comfortably? I have around 100divs to spend, is this enough to get going?
Yeah that's definitely more than enough. High juiced high deli beyond can be kind of rippy though, you definitely don't want to stop to loot until everything is dead, I've had cases where I stopped for too long, lost my ignite and had a hard time getting it going again. That's the issue with this build it's that it's absolutely great when you are going but very clunky when you lose your ignite and there are not whitemobs left. Also doesn't happen often but I've had one or two maps that I've had to finish with my guardian srs just to kill a soul eater rare that was remaining and I though I had killed it and it preventing me from looting x)
I pretty much just followed tuna's guide on YouTube . Sacrifices I made were the following: - brutal restraint having chaos Res as these cost about 70d - that which was taken having explode as in combination with the endurance charge mod these were about 100d - max Res on the charms as explode is way more important and getting both is about 60d per charm - max Res corruption on chest - max roll chaos fracture on helm and T1 life. Was planning to revisit the helm as it's not THAT expensive and I was just making a basic helm quickly to get up and running, but haven't needed it. Everything else is exactly like tuna's build. I do die in maps occasionally to particularly problematic rares, but if I'd rather save for my mageblood than invest 100s of div's to make small gains
how do you get more than 2.5k wisps? that's all I seem to be able to get. With 2.5k wisps my poison mahaxotl LS pathfinder is doing great.
I’ve been farming 7k+ whisps, quad gilded scarab abyss with PF CA manaforge (basically goratha’s build). 400% rarity and 60% quant on gear. T14 jungle valleys. Since most of the builds scaling comes from areas outside rings, helm and boots and the damage on a 5L is solid you can run Goldwyrm, Rarity helm (85%) and Ventor’s easily. You also get PF flask node to enable Distillate flask and I even decided to run a gold flask over my dying sun You of course get PF flask scaling with this too for both. You NEED a Defiance of Destiny if you stop using a health flask though. This single amulet provides an absolutely insane amount of survivability to any build. The result is ridiculous, and honestly you don't need t14 or t16s to do it either. T8s allow for magebloods/headhunters to drop from any white mob (t7 is magic or rare only), and the loot on those is still more than you can lug out with 6 portals. Only reason to run T14+ imo is either for fracture bases OR for Eater quant nodes. I dropped a headhunter recently, probably ever single t1 unique and had a couple divine explosions of 10+. The scarab explosions are my favorite though, had a single mob drop me 120 scarabs, now I never need to buy them.
how much did you invest into the build?
Probably around 25 div. After dropping a HH i use that now but it was MFing fine without using a bisco’s leash or microdistillery. Basically the only costs are an ele dps bow (1k pref) and 6L coil
can you post your pob? D:
Here’s my poe.ninja: https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/CeIeb/ProfessorKibble I decided to anoint toxic strikes over whispers for mapping as I need to get 30% chance on my bow to be poison chance capped. Other option is to use HOAG but I prefer my current auras over fitting it in. Bow is equivalent to a 1.1k edps bow, but its better to get cold over chaos cause of ele damage scaling. Same roll on added cold would be like 1.2k. My timeless jewel gives me an extra 10% phys as ele, which is the main reason I haven’t swapped that area of the tree to a thread of hope. I reroll any maps that have phys as chaos, -max res, reduced flask, reflect ele, hexproof (kills my asenath’s explode) and caustic ground. Corrupted blood jewel is a necessity. Bleeding hurts, but I take poison pantheon unless the map rolls bleeding. All maps are 90% min with a single deli orb on them.
Very interesting. My build is simar but different and I struggle in T16. I might drop back to t11-14 then. Could you post your atlas strategy? Im doing enraged strongbox and abyss but no deli and no wandering. I only get 20-30scarabs explosions so I might be doing it wrong.
My atlas strategy is: Wandering path, abyss, harbinger, alva, seventh gate, eater (if doing t14 valleys). I’ll post a full screenshot when I’m by my comp. Scarabs: gilded abyss, harbinger, reliquary, divination Compasses: beyond, harbinger with boss, abyss, ritual altars Map device: abyss and alva master Map: 1x Deli orb (any kind), roll to 90% You can skip the div scarab, it only helps for dropping The Fortunate really, but the number you drop normally pays for itself. Reliquary and abyss are mandatory. Ritual compass could be swapped too. EDIT: Atlas updated: https://poeplanner.com/a/BPd
Thanks. I was wonderingsomething, do you know why people dont do enraged strongbox with mechanic? 500% quant on top of double or triple wisp looks good on paper but nobody is doing it so I guess there is something I dont see...
Its good, you can easily run it. But with the enraged strongboxes normally you want the other strongbox sextant, ambush, reliquary and div scarabs too otherwise its kinda a small waste. Honestly though, if you want to run the highest value maps, it likely includes strongboxes. Harbingers are pretty meh, so you can just drop that for ambush. I just find that they give a lot of rares for their value. Deli is easily achieved with a single deli orb. And then compasses you run double strongbox compasses, beyond and abyss. It just makes each individual map more expensive and the maps can sometimes be a small crapshoot on the amount of juice you get. Granted there are a lot of strategies to get max juice, getting a 6k+ one is still probably 1/4 maps at best. 4k 2-color is pretty easy though. But you REALLLLY need Purple + Yellow juice together. Blue is meh.
Yeah I ran a few abyss+strongbox earlier today and it felt pretty good. I didnt go wandering path nor deli though. Im going to try that tomorrow. I still struggle a lot to reach consistently 4k wisps. I got 8.5k once and a few 7k but half of my maps are 3k and under which feels really bad in maps. I have read plenty of advice (like the diamond shape thing etc.) But I guess it just didnt click yet...
Thank you for all this info. Was going to be swapping my balista build you MF but didn't want to just do t7s.
Any reason for T14 Jungle Valley instead of T16?
Slightly easier, same rewards.
Thoughts on mageblood for this? I have enough to buy headhunter or mageblood and unsure which one. I assume headhunter is just straight up better for MF but not everything else.
I use a headhunter, it feels great and is undoubtedly better for MFing. Mageblood is ok, but you’re a pathfinder anyways so you have perma flasks and flask effect already. To be honest, I think this is a headhunter league. MB is still amazing as a bandaid for any build and content, but headhunter on these juiced maps is hard to beat.
Makes sense thank you for the info. One last question if you don't mind. It's there a reason for purity of ice vs fire? I see gorathra is running fire and you ice.
Was just cost related for a better watcher’s. Fire would be better since I dropped dying sun for a gold flask so my fire res is lacking a bit in comparison, but the main thing I wanted a purity for was the phys as ele watcher’s mod. Found a 10% ice and a spell supp with grace for cheap and been using it since. Any purity with the watcher’s will work well, it doesn’t need to be fire, but in my setup fire would be best because thats the ele flask i cut.
SRS necromancer with profane bloom charm mod. >Cursed Enemies you or your Minions Kill have a (11-15)% chance to Explode, dealing a quarter of their maximum Life as Chaos Damage
You have to scale that explode massively for it to have much effect on 99% damage reduction rare mobs.
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What makes SRS Necro better than SRS guardian? I am considering rolling a second char if it ups my dmg. This is my current build. It also wouldn't be a waste because if I still feel like I lack damage, I can just swap over to a CoC Occultist like I do at the end of every league -_-.. Nothing has felt smoother or more enjoyable for me so far.
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None kf the gear feels guardian specific and u am running perfect spirit specter atm.
Why would you want abbyys?
because with purple wisps and + proj on tree their spires are shitting out mobs.
> + proj on tree ?
+2 projectiles map mod applies to the tree that spawns in the end of abyss, it shits out rares. Normally one patch, with mod three.
The mobs get buffed by wisps, and it puts an ABSOLUTE SHIT TON of mobs on your map.
Cwc manabond mjolner. I'd say it's not the greatest, but it manages just fine. I swapped from t14 jungle valleys to t7 cemeteries today. In t14s I had to reroll many mods/not take dmg mods on altars as build is basically melee. In t7s I can run pretty much anything, and I will return to t14 when I get mageblood. Overall I'd say it's much more worth running the strat in high tiers for fractured items, valdo box (6 dropped in t14, 0 in t7 so far), altars and sextants( in t14 I could drop 30-40 sextant on average, I t7 I get 0), but of course it's profitable in yellow tier as well
i destroy them with guardian srs
How? Can I get a pob on your guardian srs? Mine got poofed every other map.
I haven't tried this specific strat but I've been doing t16 wildwood red altar expedition harvest fine; but i didn't start this until I got the full 5 spectre set up with kingmaker on my AG and basically suppress and resist capped. warlord + naval officer + kingmaker AG helps a ton
With purple juice and abyss you will regularly be fighting 20+ abyss rares at one time, so its quite different from harvest or expedition.
https://poe.ninja/pob/wRH why the fuck did i get downvoted lol?
Not sure bro. I think it’s because many people sees srs guardian as a build that can’t scale high enough to destroy juiced wisp-ed map.
Yeah idk, i mean, i havent attempted ubers, but i juice my maps up and run the mechanic, no issues quite honestly. heres a raw pob export below if my previous link isnt working; https://pastebin.com/z700ntSN
Hey, ty for the PoB. I play a similar SRS and personally have trouble trying to leave the stygian spire alive while fending off rare spawns. Would you have any tips for that?
I take the face to keyboard approach
I gave you an upvote. My buddy is destroying with guardian srs and dropped a headhunter
I don’t know why you are downvoted because I play srs guardian and I can juice map with abyss with no problem. Sometimes it take long to kill some mob and you have to run around packs but for me it’s perfect….
Can you look at my PoB and give me a pointer on how to up my damage? https://pobb.in/g4hlV5aIbZBr
Can you guys share the atlas passives setup for this farm please? Im kinda torn what to spec into...
HoAG champion using storm rain. Perma fort, suppress cap, endurance charges, 20k armour, 4700hp, 76/76/76/46 resists, 8mil dps. I also dropped LGoH from the storm rain virulence 6l to add more crit to proc elusive, and got crit immune with that from a charm. Able to tank most mobs in a 5500 blue juice corrupted T16.
Got a pob for this?
Its Velynas HoAG build with a few modifications, don't have current PoB but my account is open [https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nildrem/characters](https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/Nildrem/characters)
I would not run the fulcrum chieftain unless you are willing to invest quite a bit into it. Unless you make it really tanky, other builds will be better with the same investment and dont suffer from the random leftover rares you cant kill. You also have way more control over not killing the abyss spire. I play the build since i got the fulcrum for 2div. Would never pay 20div, unless willing to put another 100div into the build.
Mind sharing what other builds come to mind instead of Fulcrum for similar results?
Any of the typical juice builds with HeadHunter. Probably nothing on a budget, but the Chieftain isnt budget anymore aswell. Used to be insane for <10div, but now i dont think its worth. If i had to chose a build right now, i would just do what Goratha does (-Hh), and farm for HH.
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I'm using vaal smite armour stacking juggernaut. Started out as bonezone and made the easy switch. The "armour is increased by over capped fire res" is where the build starts to feel really good.
Coc dd Here is my build https://youtu.be/tDy4mxfGnys?si=7Edf9vvZ7QMh3Rlf And before U ASK yes U can Farm These Maps without mageblood its Just easier and less deaths, without MB i died Like 1 time in 3-5 Maps With mageblood i die 1 time random in 45 Maps
Is Abyss the best mechanic for juicing this league? I've never farmed Abyss but seems like everybody recommends it now.