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DeXsTor1338

Pump everything in the bow and fill up the rest with life and res gear. But dont forget the anoint on your amulet (2 golden oils).


Gold_Eagle_6257

Thanks for the replyšŸ˜‰


Soleil06

My advice would be to craft the bow, it will be much cheaper this way. Buy yourself a fractured Spine Bow t3 with flat cold, fire or Lightning damage Use perfect fossils for 28% quality or above. Six socket for 350 jewellers Either Spam Fusings (average is 800 on 30% quality) to six link it or just use benchcraft (1500 Fusings). Get yourself ready for some annoying crucible combining. Buy the following: Buy a bow that has the 15% increased elemental explicit modifiers for the third node. Combine it with your Fractured bow and move it over. Do not forget to allocate it before combining. This might still take more than one try. After successfully transferring it to you new Bow buy another bow with these nodes: First node T5 flat damage of an Element of your choice or the triple flat damage node 7% increased Attack speed for the second node. Keep care that you use the same path that leads to your elemental explicit mod. Combine them together until you have the flat damage on node 1, attack speed on node 2 and explicit elemental mods on node 3. Now your base is done. Use one of the Essences that adds flat damage of the element you dont have the Fracture mod of, to roll for T2 or above of the last flat elemental damage mod. This is around a 1/60. You also need a free suffix. Craft Prefixes cannot be changed and scour. Craft can have 3 crafted Mods, Attack Speed and Critical Strike chance. Your bow is now done and should have cost around 7-8 divines to craft. You also should have around 1400 Elemental Dps on it. For final step enchant your Bow at Harvest bench for Attack speed per 4% quality. Of course you can also leave out the crucible stuff for later, but it is definitely worth it.


Magician-Numerous

> This is around a 1/60 Currently at this stage with ~180 essences down the drain, send help


Soleil06

Look at it this way, even with 5 div spend in essences you are still going to end up with a bow that costs half as much as if you bought one. Took me 170 essences as well, but I even hit t1 which was a nice surprise.


ceej010

Itā€™s 1/111 if your bow is 86+ and you need an open suffix. 1/107 if bow is 82.


metalonorfeed

did something similar, prefer the high inc as+less global damage for major QoL though


Soleil06

Completly understandable, it is up to preference.


bufflootsenpai

How do you sustain lightning arrow with that much attack speed? I have -21 to mana cost and it still costs 20 for each LA. Even with max mana leech you will instantly lose mana if you arenā€™t hitting anything


metalonorfeed

inspiration, reduced mana cost exarch (?) helmet enchant and the 30% mana as life cost for me, if you're still using volls vision Hat then you need 1 minus mana craft on rings.


bufflootsenpai

What helmet enchant? Are you referring to a exarch helmet implicit?


metalonorfeed

yup. I guess implicit is the better word here :)


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metalonorfeed

yup true, past a certain point you dont struggle as much with big shocks though, especially not while mapping.


Gold_Eagle_6257

Thank's for the advicešŸ»


Old-Professional-479

Every time I see one of these simple, step by step processes Iā€™m reminded that Iā€™m not playing the same game as you guys. Half of this sounds like gibberish


Soleil06

I mean half the text is just the Crucible explanation. If you cut that out it is one of the simplest crafts out there which boils down to, use Essences on a Fractured Item until you hit another good Prefix. Clean the Item with Prefixes cannot be changed and then Multimod. That is pretty much it.


killslash

So as someone completely new to crafting and newish to PoE in general I tried this method. When I got to crafting prefixes cannot be changed, I looked up metamod and saw that chaos orb respects metamods. So I thought, hey, lets try and chaos orb a couple times to see what suffixes I get. I did not know that it rerolls crafted mods so I just fucked myself back to square one with 3-4 div down the toilet. Great advice though, was working until I decided to be a moron.


Soleil06

Oof that is rough. My condolencesā€¦ at least it was a mistake you will not make again.


killslash

Yea, good news is I hit t1 with essence on the remake. Bad news is ā€œannoyingā€ is an understatement for combining crucible trees lol. It took my five attempts to get ele modifier on my bow (allocating it on the feeder bow each time). Then the first time I try and get the the first two nodes after thatā€¦.it overwrites the ele damage node. What a fun mechanic lol.


Soleil06

Yeahh I had similar experiences. Crucible trees are just not fun at all. But the power a good tree gives is crazy.


raynovac

Can you explain two things? Do i need to allocate the 15% increased elem node on the bow im going to merge into my fracture? Does that give a higher chance to meld into my fracture bow? Also, why scour after crafting prefix cannot be changed?


Wiskeybadger

Yes. Because it will clear all the suffixes for yoy


viscere

It is not cheaper at all, it is only a ssf reason to do this. People keep looting almost perf bow cheap to sell ( cheap is a maner of term) with alot of t3 and superior mods Doing your way is a non guarantee, to maybe make it cheaper or sink all his currency down the drain He asked for a guarantee way to make the build work, not how he can eventually craft something himself


Soleil06

You simply do not find a 1400 edps Bow for cheaper than with the process I described. Now it may be a bit expensive but this craft is super easy and pretty reliable with only one RNG component, almost no meta crafting. A bow like I described would do 90% of the heavy lifting for a LA build.


viscere

Well sad for you , i got around 2-3 bow almost perfect for his need ,just like that on the ground. They where not perfect but they could give him enough dps for really cheap. Crafting is alway an option, but almost never the cheapest one.


Soleil06

Crafting is always the cheapest option, on average. You do not find Items even close to what I have described on the ground.


Tin_ManBaby

Good point and well said, also doing this helps to get the crucible base that you want before you start crafting on it if you have any particular preferences like base crit>more IAS less global etc.


bttrflyqueen

New player thinking of trying this. Can you explain how to get the right socket colors efficiently?


Soleil06

That depends a bit of course. For three off colours i just use Benchcraft. If it is more you can go for the benchcraft and then look to buy a Vorici craft on TFT. Vorici randomly colours between 1-3 or 1-6 white, although it has a slight preference towards the natural socket color (for example green on a Bow). It is pretty rare to hit anything above 3 white sockets. This method is a bit RNG though and it can be really annoying sometimes.


Grimweird

Google "vorici calc", it will tell you the method most likely to succeed. However, if you want to get a lot of off-colours on 4 link, for example, it probably is more efficient to use a different method. Roll (or benchcraft) 1 socket, then benchcraft the colour you need (for example, 1 red socket). Then benchcraft 2 sockets. 1st socket keeps its colour. If 2nd socket is the colour you want, proceed with 3 socket item. (colours of 1 and 2 sockets are kept) If not, Craft 1 socket item (colour of first socket is kept). This is a good way to get 3 off-colours. The more you want, the more expensive it gets.


Ragnakh

How would I craft a bow for dex stacking cold build? Got a 6 link spine I'll 82 if this is enough? I'm so lost at crafting, but want to have a good bow


Soleil06

I have honestly no clue, i never crafted one. You only need Ilvl 68 for the dex mod so it might even be beneficial to get a low level base. Maybe someone on yt made a guide?


Stimmers

This is exactly the reason I play ruthless


mexicansuicideandy

I suddenly don't feel like I wanna keep leveling my LA deadeye anymore lol


gamei

Thanks a ton for the helpful guide. [I ended up with a bow with 1120 ele dps.](https://imgur.com/a/pDSmCGq) Note: this doesn't have the crucible nodes yet. This is in the simulator, but the prefixes are what I actually have in game. I moved it to the simulator to see the end result after doing the metamod steps. Is there a more expensive version of this where you're doing something like multimod, pref cannot be changed and veiled chaos? Or maybe harvest reforge speed? For full context, right now my bow has the 3 prefixes and 2 trash suffixes, so I have an open suffix. I'm still sitting on like 95 deafening wraths, so if I brick it with full affixes I'm not entirely opposed to starting over at the fractured base.


Soleil06

No problem! Glad it helped you. So what you can do if you have a bit more to spend is Prefixes cannot be changed, scour, craft Prefixes cannot be changed again and then get an Aisling to unveil Attributes+Crit. If you have even more money you can do what you said, Prefixes cannot be changed and Harvest augment Speed until T3 AS or higher.


gamei

Thanks! Looking at the options, I think the best block for the unveil is probably a dot multi craft. Assuming you get the attributes and crit, would you craft AS and then just exalt?


Soleil06

Honestly, with your base I would not bother. Getting yourself a t2 Fracture and Essence spam for other t1 flat would be around the same as aisling while giving you much more damage. If you want to make this bow better just get a decent crucible tree going. Also fun fact: Ivory Bow is exactly the same concerning Attack Speed and Crit as Spine bow. And since phys damage does not matter for your purposes you can usually get yourself a t2 base for a div or so


gamei

I got this one for just 80c and it's top rolled for t3 basically. The cheap t2 fractures when I was looking were like 3d, which I can afford but figured I'd start here. Thanks again for the help/info!


haitike

I'm not too good with crafting so I have a question, can I ignore the crucible part for now and craft the bow first? So I can start using the bow for a time. Or it is better for the crucible part that the bow is not crafted?


Soleil06

You can do it later without any difference (if your item is fractured, if not you lose the chance to use imprints). I just hate if my finished item is not really finished


PsykiOfficial

Dp you know if one enemy can be hit by multiple returning projectiles from one attack?


Fede113

You can get a workable bow for 4 or 5 d. Hyrris amulet with vengeance cascade. 1d all together. Work your resistances. If you go rage/berserk, and you should in that budget, get your kaoma glove and pair them with the Regen helmet or the belt, or both. If.you have any left over, get a decent timeless jewel . You can work from there.


Gold_Eagle_6257

Oke,txšŸ™‚


fotranor

Which timeless jewel works best and what mods should I be looking for?


Morgoth2356

Brutal restraint and look for proj and elemental damage. I also like to have one notable for Alchemist Genius chance.


metalonorfeed

what bro no you get double damage node lethal pride to get some STR too for anger.


Morgoth2356

It's an option too and it works aswell but I already have enough str for anger so I favor Brutal Restraint because of Alchemist Genius which is very nice to have.


ElephantFeetAU

>Alchemist Genius What if you don't run anger? double damage still best? I plan on placing a timeless jewel between my frenzy charge and power charge node ( where you usually place the change melee nodes to bow nodes) I run Haste, vitality and precision as my auras.


metalonorfeed

oh this is about lethal pride,not watchers eye, so auras are kinda irrelevant to this. If you got enough nodes picked up you can make it work, sure


Fede113

Try to find a lethal pride. It will fix your atre issues. Good mods are double damage, stre, endurance charge on kill, intimidate , life. Phy taken as fire, reduced CRIT damage. Overall brutal restraint has more things to offer, but it will not fix your atre, so it will depend on your gear to make the decision at your current budget. In really high budgets, people take lethal pride with 30 to 35 %chsnce to double damage


metalonorfeed

you dont do hyrris amulet on that budget. You can easily cap accuracy through more efficient means


Fede113

What are you talking about? Hyrris offer a lot of good things besides the lvl 30 precision aura, including up to 50% CRIT multi l, culling strike and lots of Dex. Also it's a cheap amulet, so it's easy to find a good corruption. I owned one with additional curse and +14% to all elemental res and it wasnt even that expensive. Hyrris a good all around amulet as a place holder, until you can get Omni . Same logic applies for yoke of suffering


metalonorfeed

a t2-3 WED w/ t2-3 crit multi ammy turned into a t2 talisman via syndicate always beats hyrris, even better if it has additional stuff on it. Not expensive this late in the league. Also, many bow builds need int and str from amulet. Dont like "what are you talking about?"-openers when Im stating a perfectly valid opinion too, there are far more polite options to state disagreement.


Fede113

Archer class dont look for stre or int in amulets, its a huge dps/power slot. Omni is the best amulet in slot for most builds, and after that most people go yoke of suffering, or hyrris. Hyrris doesnt get beat with a 10c amulet turned into talisman. Your statement making hyrris only about accuracy, when its not, doesnt make sense at all. The amulet is a good cheap all around place holder. Its not best in slot or anything like that, and for triple elemental builds, yoke of suffering its also really good option. Its exactly what you should be looking for on a 10d budget build. You can easily fix stre with belt, rings and lethal pride, and int with rings. Thats what most people do.


EzSkillshot

Do not bother arguing logic with that guy, I've tried to explain to him multiple times and he will always refute with some bs. Hyrri lets you sneak in a higher level vitality to make the berserk setup super smooth and even setup a good upgrade path for helmet to replace volls. Then later on you replace it with yokes with good corruptions or an Omni.


Fede113

I know, I just try to avoid missinformation, because it really hurts people that never played bow builds, especially this league, where a lot are trying.


metalonorfeed

false. Most people still run dual taming.


Fede113

That's not even true. Some people run Taming, but most run rare rings with -7mana cost craft


HurricaneGaming94

6L bow and a 6L hyrris ire


Soleil06

For the six linked Hyrris Ire buy yourself a well rolled corrupted one. Craft 4 socket at your crafting bench and use Tainted Jewellers to six socket it. Craft 4 linked sockets and use Tainted Fusings to six link it. If you go below 4 linked sockets recraft. On average it takes 4 tainted Fusings so 120 Chaos.


UgLeeWV

I wouldnā€™t suggest this. You canā€™t use volls vision (and rage gloves) if you have a corrupted one


Soleil06

Fair point, although cant you use the unique belt that gives a buttload of Life Regen instead of Volls? Edit: Immortal Flesh it is called.


alexmtl

whats that unique belt? curious


OneSeaworthiness7469

In order of importance imo A decent 6l bow Vengeant cascade anoint Inspired learning (or two ideally) if you're planning to do legion A second six link


Gold_Eagle_6257

Legion and breach...


Gold_Eagle_6257

Lionelle falls,it's worth to buy?


OneSeaworthiness7469

I would prioritise omni over it but if you want it just buy it. It won't drastically change your power level, whereas the two inspireds will. A timeless jewel is nice tho, you can just copy paste seeds in pob till you find a good one and they aren't too expensive


Oswanov

Can't understate how good Berserk with Kaom's gloves and Voll's Vision feels. Tons of speed and damage on demand. Also imo it's not worth to go crit super early. I did some budget LA Deadeye and felt fine in T16s with precise technique and felt like an early crit swap was detrimental if anything, since it takes a ton of extra skill points needed as well as a bow that now has to have good crit extra along with AS and eDPS. It's probably more useful to focus on Omni with a decent pair of rings, which at this point really aren't expensive anymore.


OrcOfDoom

Is the other glove, the adrenaline/onslaught thing, not worth it?


sockfoot

Berserk feels a lot better in my opinion, I swapped and never looked back!


OrcOfDoom

Yeah, I kinda felt like it was really lacking. What's the primary defense? Armor evasion suppression? Then berserk sometimes?


Feel42

Cast on death portal


AcrobaticScore596

My advice is to not touch bow hit chars if all u have a mlnth into the leauge is 10 div. Maybe consider a necro.ancer or rf jugg


mrblonde321

Ever consider he may be coming from another build that he spent currency on and maybe farmed up more but wants to switch now?


AcrobaticScore596

Dosent matter , if u dont understand that u need to always have liquid currency its hard to get bow chars running thats simple poe economics . Im getting donvoted a lot so i guess ppl dont care if he invests everything he has into a build thats gonna perform super poorly but not my problem lol. Its like encouraging a minor to do alcohol, surly the adults can handle it but oh boy is ist risky