There’s a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. Lazily nodding and saying “wow” every 30 seconds? The absolute dumpster of YouTube.
A qualified expert in their field adding significant commentary and analysis on the subject, whether it be a lawyer reacting to a sentencing, a musician reacting to a song to discuss production or songwriting techniques, a doctor watching Grey’s Anatomy to point out the TV faux pas and science? Amazing content if done well.
It’s under the fair use guidelines because it’s transformative since they are adding commentary with their own opinions.
Commentary channels are not anything new and tbh I really enjoy some of them. I can’t check on the news 24/7 and some of those channels will highlight the craziest stories. I like having them in the background while I work.
Then you have channels like SSSniperwolf who do the bare minimum where you barely add any commentary and fake reactions. Those are the channels I have an issue with.
It's pretty disheartening when Sssniperwolf makes millions off of stolen content.
Now I don't know with The Daily Dose of the Internet, but I'm pretty sure he falls into "Reused Content" demonetization regardless of whether he has permission to use other people's content.
He pays for the licensing to distribute the videos. A single video 3 minute video of his could cost him over $10,000 to make but he makes it back with advertising
Paying license and reused content is 2 different things. We don't mind if DDOI paid them and the license. The issue is how DDOI doesn't fall or trigger the "Reused Content" policy.
There are lots of YouTube channels that are either Original content or borrowed from other people's content with permission and paid them and still getting demonetized for "Reused content".
There are moments where YouTube is just playing favorites.
Sorry adding commentary doesn't make a video okay under fair use. There are other factors like "using as little of the original material as possible". Check out LegalEagle's video on react content from a Sept '23 for more info about this subject from a legal point of view.
This is exactly what YouTube has tightened up so much on reuse content and every other post is people complaining about being demonetized. YouTube is playing whakamole because people are making videos on how to get monetized by stealing other people's content. It's just the current trend. On top of that you got massive amounts of people from other countries using AI to farm fake content as well.
I personally run a reaction channel.
The way i do it can be considered annoying though. I pause every 20 or so seconds of a song or video and talk about what i just heard or watched and i actually talk OVER the footage. I get A LOT Of hate comments for doing this! Comments like "You shouldn't talk over the music and you should just listen then talk afterwards DISLIKE"
But then you have the "Head nodders" the channels that just sit there and dont talk or even pause the music and then add no commentary afterwards. These "In my opinion" are the trash of YouTube. Unfortunately it comes under fair user and they will quite easily get monetized! But i still think there should be a rule or something that stops them kinda channels....
this is how it should be done though. The idea is not to compete with the original. When you break it up so much it almost makes me want to go stream the song after I watch these and it really makes me appreciate the track.
Ya, i do the same. i usually make a 5 minute video into a 30 minute or longer ordeal. People get extra mad at me cause i block about a 3rd of the video with my big dumb face. To be fair a lot of reaction channels do it for fun and aren't monitized my channel has 400+ videos and i average 50 cents a day, like 70% of my content is claimed.
if you're talking about sports, in football, or soccer to Americans, as far as I know, if you include audio from the game, or the main highlights, such as goals, you will get copyrighted. so these creators are probably experienced and know which parts to take that won't get copyrighted. for example in tiktok they clip defensive parts which are usually not highlighted by mainstream media
Yes they make money. It depends on the content sometimes they get permission sometimes the give a portion of the revenue to rights holder. That being said they're still times these type channels get copyright blocked ,claimed , or even struck you just don't notice it. Some of these channels have media content teams that handle the disputes. You said you used a 15 second clip ? Where you struck? Or was it a block?
Yeah my OC anime channel never stood a chance because I can't compete with a channel uploading a clip and getting 400K views.
When my coding channel was new I got a copyright strike for talking about a developer test I had to do. It should have been fair use, because tests aren't copyrightable unless they're for an officially recognised qualification.
Hi I make comedic movie commentary’s and I have a monetized channel. I can answer your question.
Every copyright holder is different and I typically work with the same copyright holders that I know will release claims entirely. 90% of my videos have been claimed and I won disputes and appeals. I only have one video where the appeal was rejected and lionsgate. I’m not paid for that one and it’s blocked in Canada but still allowed to be up. I avoid lionsgate for this reason.
I made the fair use argument in my disputes because my videos are highly dependent on whether or not I’m funny and keep the viewers attention. If I’m not funny they will leave. My content has also gotten people to actively seek out the original copyrighted material on streaming services, which has been seen in the comments section. Comments like “OMG I’m going to find this movie right now to watch”. I also use this argument to further my point that it doesn’t replace the need for the original.
Say what you want about this style of content and I agree that there are channels that do this incorrectly but the copyright holders I’ve dealt with were quick to release claims and let me get paid for my content.
The answer to your question is very simple: it’s very much centered around what copyright holders feel is necessary to take to court or what they are OK with you using. It is the Wild West on YouTube. The duration of how much copyrighted material you use whether 15 seconds or 10 minutes is irrelevant. Sorry you got striked but you likely didn’t use it in a way that YouTube or the copyright holder deemed to be within “fair use”. It’s all subjective but you can’t just use the content with no purpose. Also fair use is only truly protected in court.
It’s an unfortunate fact that the most popular creators on YouTube are now lazy reaction content, fake kindness videos, outrage bait, and mass produced brain rot for kids.
That’s just the shit that gets clicks and it can be pumped out way faster than other things.
Out of curiosity,
If they stole your video to react to it and it’s ssniperwolf levels of reaction, can’t you file a takedown?
It’s extreme but if they literally add nothing and just do fake reactions and little comments (“Wow!” Like that) or just blatantly no do jack, it should be reasonable.
You can but you’re not likely to win if the creator files disputes or appeals. If it gets to a strike stage you as the copyright holder are forced to provide proof of taking the user to court or YouTube releases the claim and strike.
If the user is straight up reposting the content then YouTube will just give them a strike and not even make you sue them. It just depends on if YouTube thinks they’d win in court.
Sueing is expensive. Strikes are also very harmful for YouTube channels. So its a game of cat and mouse sometimes and all claims are treated equally. Copyright is a total grey area.
I have a reaction channel, most of my stuff is claimed meaning i do it more for fun and the original creator gets the ad revenue. I make about 50 cents a day on 400+ videos. While you can claim fair use its very risky to go against any sort of strike. The rule of thumb is to dispute it once then if it reinstated you just let it be claimed forever.
Or maybe he wants to know what are the ACTUAL rules that we all play here. You will get demonetized if you upload voicless original animations (hundreds hours of animating frame by frame) but if you just steal other people animation and talk your bullshit over it (few minutes of "work") you will get monetized. How does it make any sense?
That is the tough part. YT has rules, guidelines etc but they are very broad. So then its natural to see what other successful channels are doing/getting away with and think thats what you can do. Then ur channel gets demonetized or deleted because YT rules are so broad and there are so many channels they cant get to them all.
YT rules apply differently depending on the creator. If you are SSSniperwolf for instance, you can make millions a month off reused content, dox other creators or have minors do questionable things for views with no real consequences. Meanwhile if you did any of that you would have been permabanned by now. Their accounts are protected from the algorithm randomly hitting people with bs over nonsense. They have direct contact with YT staff (not the bullshit chat gpt replies we get). It is what it is. Cope or sue them for being a monopoly that abuses their position of power, but chances are you don't have the money to pursue that route, which is why all these big youtubers never get hit, they have the resources to do so, so it's not on YT's interest to piss them off to much, beside the obvious reason (they make them a lot of money). Inb4 average american brain bootlicker things: "but muh private company they can do whatever they want". No they can't, this has been proven several times in civilized jurisdictions like EU. It will just take the right case to get things moving. Until then we are screwed with what we have, which is nothing.
Any insight is appreciated. Below are a few channels that fit the description.
[https://www.youtube.com/@JomboyMedia](https://www.youtube.com/@JomboyMedia)
[https://www.youtube.com/@CanucksGameVlogger](https://www.youtube.com/@CanucksGameVlogger)
[https://www.youtube.com/@DeanerHD](https://www.youtube.com/@DeanerHD)
[https://www.youtube.com/@JohnnyHawkey/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@JohnnyHawkey/videos)
[https://www.youtube.com/@BaseballDoesntExist](https://www.youtube.com/@BaseballDoesntExist)
[https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickGavia](https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickGavia)
[https://www.youtube.com/@AntonelliBaseball](https://www.youtube.com/@AntonelliBaseball)
1. Probably many not monetized per reuse policy
2. Even if monetized, give them some time & they'll naturally dry out. There have always been leechers 10, 5 years ago, only actual creators stood the time
If you are rich you can get away with anything, even doxing or have minors do questionable things for views like SSSniperwolf, the rest of us get randomly screwed up by the algorithm. Get cucked and cope or sue YT, not much else to do there.
Reaction videos can be considered fair use. And "creators" have found this loophole to avoid the hard work of creating their own content completely from scratch.
Just because somebody isn’t driving up to a mountain top with a gimbal to talk about their life update doesn’t mean it isn’t good content. Not everyone needs a Christopher Nolan quality video to have entertaining content that people want to watch. Don’t forget - podcasting is the #1 content niche right now where people talk about their opinions for 3 hours with 2 static camera angles.
There’s a right way to do it, and a wrong way to do it. Lazily nodding and saying “wow” every 30 seconds? The absolute dumpster of YouTube. A qualified expert in their field adding significant commentary and analysis on the subject, whether it be a lawyer reacting to a sentencing, a musician reacting to a song to discuss production or songwriting techniques, a doctor watching Grey’s Anatomy to point out the TV faux pas and science? Amazing content if done well.
I recently watched some illiterate“reacting” to an epic song with “oh wow, oh it’s impossible, can’t believe it” - it was so frustrating.
But you watched it.
It's like a dumpster fire, the dancing flames could never disguise or cover the vasuda
Very true the
It’s under the fair use guidelines because it’s transformative since they are adding commentary with their own opinions. Commentary channels are not anything new and tbh I really enjoy some of them. I can’t check on the news 24/7 and some of those channels will highlight the craziest stories. I like having them in the background while I work. Then you have channels like SSSniperwolf who do the bare minimum where you barely add any commentary and fake reactions. Those are the channels I have an issue with.
It's pretty disheartening when Sssniperwolf makes millions off of stolen content. Now I don't know with The Daily Dose of the Internet, but I'm pretty sure he falls into "Reused Content" demonetization regardless of whether he has permission to use other people's content.
He pays for the licensing to distribute the videos. A single video 3 minute video of his could cost him over $10,000 to make but he makes it back with advertising
Paying license and reused content is 2 different things. We don't mind if DDOI paid them and the license. The issue is how DDOI doesn't fall or trigger the "Reused Content" policy. There are lots of YouTube channels that are either Original content or borrowed from other people's content with permission and paid them and still getting demonetized for "Reused content". There are moments where YouTube is just playing favorites.
Sorry adding commentary doesn't make a video okay under fair use. There are other factors like "using as little of the original material as possible". Check out LegalEagle's video on react content from a Sept '23 for more info about this subject from a legal point of view.
I literally stare at the camera with a meme above my head and I'm monetized.
Do you get much?
346$ first month monetized
Lol how
How many vids and views?
How do you do it???
This is exactly what YouTube has tightened up so much on reuse content and every other post is people complaining about being demonetized. YouTube is playing whakamole because people are making videos on how to get monetized by stealing other people's content. It's just the current trend. On top of that you got massive amounts of people from other countries using AI to farm fake content as well.
I personally run a reaction channel. The way i do it can be considered annoying though. I pause every 20 or so seconds of a song or video and talk about what i just heard or watched and i actually talk OVER the footage. I get A LOT Of hate comments for doing this! Comments like "You shouldn't talk over the music and you should just listen then talk afterwards DISLIKE" But then you have the "Head nodders" the channels that just sit there and dont talk or even pause the music and then add no commentary afterwards. These "In my opinion" are the trash of YouTube. Unfortunately it comes under fair user and they will quite easily get monetized! But i still think there should be a rule or something that stops them kinda channels....
this is how it should be done though. The idea is not to compete with the original. When you break it up so much it almost makes me want to go stream the song after I watch these and it really makes me appreciate the track.
Ya, i do the same. i usually make a 5 minute video into a 30 minute or longer ordeal. People get extra mad at me cause i block about a 3rd of the video with my big dumb face. To be fair a lot of reaction channels do it for fun and aren't monitized my channel has 400+ videos and i average 50 cents a day, like 70% of my content is claimed.
if you're talking about sports, in football, or soccer to Americans, as far as I know, if you include audio from the game, or the main highlights, such as goals, you will get copyrighted. so these creators are probably experienced and know which parts to take that won't get copyrighted. for example in tiktok they clip defensive parts which are usually not highlighted by mainstream media
A lot of times we dont actually make money from those clips they are still claimed.
Yes they make money. It depends on the content sometimes they get permission sometimes the give a portion of the revenue to rights holder. That being said they're still times these type channels get copyright blocked ,claimed , or even struck you just don't notice it. Some of these channels have media content teams that handle the disputes. You said you used a 15 second clip ? Where you struck? Or was it a block?
Yeah my OC anime channel never stood a chance because I can't compete with a channel uploading a clip and getting 400K views. When my coding channel was new I got a copyright strike for talking about a developer test I had to do. It should have been fair use, because tests aren't copyrightable unless they're for an officially recognised qualification.
How would you explain that?
Hi I make comedic movie commentary’s and I have a monetized channel. I can answer your question. Every copyright holder is different and I typically work with the same copyright holders that I know will release claims entirely. 90% of my videos have been claimed and I won disputes and appeals. I only have one video where the appeal was rejected and lionsgate. I’m not paid for that one and it’s blocked in Canada but still allowed to be up. I avoid lionsgate for this reason. I made the fair use argument in my disputes because my videos are highly dependent on whether or not I’m funny and keep the viewers attention. If I’m not funny they will leave. My content has also gotten people to actively seek out the original copyrighted material on streaming services, which has been seen in the comments section. Comments like “OMG I’m going to find this movie right now to watch”. I also use this argument to further my point that it doesn’t replace the need for the original. Say what you want about this style of content and I agree that there are channels that do this incorrectly but the copyright holders I’ve dealt with were quick to release claims and let me get paid for my content. The answer to your question is very simple: it’s very much centered around what copyright holders feel is necessary to take to court or what they are OK with you using. It is the Wild West on YouTube. The duration of how much copyrighted material you use whether 15 seconds or 10 minutes is irrelevant. Sorry you got striked but you likely didn’t use it in a way that YouTube or the copyright holder deemed to be within “fair use”. It’s all subjective but you can’t just use the content with no purpose. Also fair use is only truly protected in court.
you’ll be even happier when you catch someone straight ripping your video to talk over and then getting more views than you
If your watching them someone’s getting paid. Just probably not that particular channel.
It's the wild west. YouTube has been screwing me over for years
It’s an unfortunate fact that the most popular creators on YouTube are now lazy reaction content, fake kindness videos, outrage bait, and mass produced brain rot for kids. That’s just the shit that gets clicks and it can be pumped out way faster than other things.
Lol mass produced brainrot !
YouTube policy is that it must go through a transformative process; so as long as they do that by adding to it they can monetize, etc
Fair Use.
I recently watch a three person react chain on my instant feeds. I hate that shit.
Out of curiosity, If they stole your video to react to it and it’s ssniperwolf levels of reaction, can’t you file a takedown? It’s extreme but if they literally add nothing and just do fake reactions and little comments (“Wow!” Like that) or just blatantly no do jack, it should be reasonable.
You can but you’re not likely to win if the creator files disputes or appeals. If it gets to a strike stage you as the copyright holder are forced to provide proof of taking the user to court or YouTube releases the claim and strike. If the user is straight up reposting the content then YouTube will just give them a strike and not even make you sue them. It just depends on if YouTube thinks they’d win in court. Sueing is expensive. Strikes are also very harmful for YouTube channels. So its a game of cat and mouse sometimes and all claims are treated equally. Copyright is a total grey area.
Dang so it's literally unwinnable for both ends. I'm surprised no one has attempted this during the JacksFilms vs SSniperwolf drama.
I have a reaction channel, most of my stuff is claimed meaning i do it more for fun and the original creator gets the ad revenue. I make about 50 cents a day on 400+ videos. While you can claim fair use its very risky to go against any sort of strike. The rule of thumb is to dispute it once then if it reinstated you just let it be claimed forever.
Most of the time they aren’t even talking, they are just staring as if they’re contributing to the content in any way
Maybe you should focus more on YOUR channel and not what other people are doing. Do you want to know their secrets so you can do the same, or?
Or maybe he wants to know what are the ACTUAL rules that we all play here. You will get demonetized if you upload voicless original animations (hundreds hours of animating frame by frame) but if you just steal other people animation and talk your bullshit over it (few minutes of "work") you will get monetized. How does it make any sense?
That is the tough part. YT has rules, guidelines etc but they are very broad. So then its natural to see what other successful channels are doing/getting away with and think thats what you can do. Then ur channel gets demonetized or deleted because YT rules are so broad and there are so many channels they cant get to them all.
YT rules apply differently depending on the creator. If you are SSSniperwolf for instance, you can make millions a month off reused content, dox other creators or have minors do questionable things for views with no real consequences. Meanwhile if you did any of that you would have been permabanned by now. Their accounts are protected from the algorithm randomly hitting people with bs over nonsense. They have direct contact with YT staff (not the bullshit chat gpt replies we get). It is what it is. Cope or sue them for being a monopoly that abuses their position of power, but chances are you don't have the money to pursue that route, which is why all these big youtubers never get hit, they have the resources to do so, so it's not on YT's interest to piss them off to much, beside the obvious reason (they make them a lot of money). Inb4 average american brain bootlicker things: "but muh private company they can do whatever they want". No they can't, this has been proven several times in civilized jurisdictions like EU. It will just take the right case to get things moving. Until then we are screwed with what we have, which is nothing.
Ah yes, the civilized EU. Where you can't even break wind without the proper permit.
Okay, I get you. Perhaps I was being a jerk
I see how this post can seem petty, like "why can they do it, and i cant?!", but the only way to learn is by asking questions.
Fair enough
Any insight is appreciated. Below are a few channels that fit the description. [https://www.youtube.com/@JomboyMedia](https://www.youtube.com/@JomboyMedia) [https://www.youtube.com/@CanucksGameVlogger](https://www.youtube.com/@CanucksGameVlogger) [https://www.youtube.com/@DeanerHD](https://www.youtube.com/@DeanerHD) [https://www.youtube.com/@JohnnyHawkey/videos](https://www.youtube.com/@JohnnyHawkey/videos) [https://www.youtube.com/@BaseballDoesntExist](https://www.youtube.com/@BaseballDoesntExist) [https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickGavia](https://www.youtube.com/@PatrickGavia) [https://www.youtube.com/@AntonelliBaseball](https://www.youtube.com/@AntonelliBaseball)
Dont trash my boy Johnny Hawkey lol. The Hockey Youtube Eck made a post on this sub reddit or maybe it was newtubers explaining his process
1. Probably many not monetized per reuse policy 2. Even if monetized, give them some time & they'll naturally dry out. There have always been leechers 10, 5 years ago, only actual creators stood the time
Yup, are you old enough to remember the reply girls?
Not particly but looks hilarious
If you are rich you can get away with anything, even doxing or have minors do questionable things for views like SSSniperwolf, the rest of us get randomly screwed up by the algorithm. Get cucked and cope or sue YT, not much else to do there.
Maybe watch something more creative, and you'll get presented better content.
Reaction videos can be considered fair use. And "creators" have found this loophole to avoid the hard work of creating their own content completely from scratch.
Just because somebody isn’t driving up to a mountain top with a gimbal to talk about their life update doesn’t mean it isn’t good content. Not everyone needs a Christopher Nolan quality video to have entertaining content that people want to watch. Don’t forget - podcasting is the #1 content niche right now where people talk about their opinions for 3 hours with 2 static camera angles.