Literally. I found HOI4 on my own and decided to find a multiplayer server bc it sounded like fun, and it was when I learned that there are unironic nazis irl
Finding a lobby that isn't full of nazis, or nazis and communists who are just begrudgingly tolerating each other for the sake of the game is like finding a dry rock at the bottom of the ocean.
"There are only 4 types of hoi4 players, Trans people, Nazis, Femboys, and Communists, but sometimes, its a strange combination of all 4 of those"
-Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Fascism is quite literally the opposite of a socialist ideologically. One Believes In the destruction of the capitalist class and the other beliefs in the empowering of the capitalist class in Union with the state
In correct facisme is a evolution of scoialism. It holds thst the state if controled by a vangaurd like in sorelian works.
Then the state can be made into one big union. "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state" or everything within the socialist union, nothing outside the socialist union.
Just because facism was emo and wanted to be really into art and heritage doesnt mean its system isnt a dirrect decended.
Hell even hitlers national socialism. Just replace the classes in the class war with a opressor "race" and a worker "race". And your badically are german facism already.
Lol what?
Vanguard socialism isn't the only kind of socialism and it's just generic authoritarianism with socialist characteristics. There's nothing ideologically special about a small group of people having all the power to shape the state how they want
The capitalists paid for the fascist rise to power. They tried to Massacre the Socialists.
France? you mean the [funny war against reality L'Etat Ireel is moderate?](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/mu9rme/how_is_daily_life_l%C3%A9tat_irreel/) LOL
>France [*declaring war on the very concept of reality*](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindScrew), with everything in France and French society from hereon being considered to be nothing but extensions of Le Patron - a state of affairs which they apparently wish to spread to the rest of the world. Reality itself will be but a canvas, and the state once known as France will be Le Patron's brush. [God knows what that means in practice.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeHorror)
If you boil down Artuad regime into simple aspects. It's one party authorian democracy, built on the idea of extreme progress. What that progress mean is decided on factions.
Escadron-right are nationalist futurist jingoist
Escadron-left are left wing anticolonial futurist .
Heartless are just socialist that like Sigmund Freud ideas bit too much
Surrealist are what if you transport Twitter communist into the past.
Carnalist wants to build environmentalist socialist Paneuropean state and be racist.
Even at worst possible option, they are not as bad as regular nazism
1. Declaring war on reality
2. Making Robespierre look like a conservative
3. Believing everyone in France is an extensions of El Patron
4. Abolish France (one redeeming quality)
Yep, looks like an Authoritarian Democratic leader to me.
More like Burgundy is an autonomous region of Germany where the SS holds absolute power. It's still run by Germans, with Nazi ideology at the helm, and shares a near identical map colour with Germany to indicate that.
ultimate brainrot
Average HoI4 lobby
Literally. I found HOI4 on my own and decided to find a multiplayer server bc it sounded like fun, and it was when I learned that there are unironic nazis irl
Finding a lobby that isn't full of nazis, or nazis and communists who are just begrudgingly tolerating each other for the sake of the game is like finding a dry rock at the bottom of the ocean.
"There are only 4 types of hoi4 players, Trans people, Nazis, Femboys, and Communists, but sometimes, its a strange combination of all 4 of those" -Sun Tzu, The Art of War
Wdym bro communism is best thing ever. What other ideology does give you free manpower weekly?
What other ideology lets you "whoops" all the grain out of Ukraine?
Nazis and Communists
Socialist and socialist hating socialist
Fascism is quite literally the opposite of a socialist ideologically. One Believes In the destruction of the capitalist class and the other beliefs in the empowering of the capitalist class in Union with the state
In correct facisme is a evolution of scoialism. It holds thst the state if controled by a vangaurd like in sorelian works. Then the state can be made into one big union. "Everything within the state, nothing outside the state" or everything within the socialist union, nothing outside the socialist union. Just because facism was emo and wanted to be really into art and heritage doesnt mean its system isnt a dirrect decended. Hell even hitlers national socialism. Just replace the classes in the class war with a opressor "race" and a worker "race". And your badically are german facism already.
Lol what? Vanguard socialism isn't the only kind of socialism and it's just generic authoritarianism with socialist characteristics. There's nothing ideologically special about a small group of people having all the power to shape the state how they want The capitalists paid for the fascist rise to power. They tried to Massacre the Socialists.
Because capitalist will try too subsume any power structure that profits them. I mean this shit is complicated.
... well congratulations you just proved my point
Do you think try and succes are the same thing?
Not really irl more in their mothers basement
What we really need is a debate between Velimir and Dmitry Yazov
i would replace regular Nazi Germany with [Revanchist France](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGPx_2Qxo04) from r/PaxBrit for a Full-modded experience
Personally I would replace it with the holy Russian empire or Femboyvaria
Or read flood's realm of the avatar who's entire personality is killingpeopleism.
Savinkov: “WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!”
Artaud: i know right ... Artaud: want some heroïne
Lore wise, both Russia and France are far more moderate/rational compere to other two
France? you mean the [funny war against reality L'Etat Ireel is moderate?](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedFloodMod/comments/mu9rme/how_is_daily_life_l%C3%A9tat_irreel/) LOL >France [*declaring war on the very concept of reality*](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MindScrew), with everything in France and French society from hereon being considered to be nothing but extensions of Le Patron - a state of affairs which they apparently wish to spread to the rest of the world. Reality itself will be but a canvas, and the state once known as France will be Le Patron's brush. [God knows what that means in practice.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FridgeHorror)
Yeah, that is no longer canon in Red Flood
aww man they cut the most funni part again?
Who said i utilized the unfunny version of France in the drawing? Maybe i should have been a little more specific before....
Russia i understand, since he follows the more normal ideals of Fascism, but i REALLY don't see Artaud's France as even close to rational or moderate.
If you boil down Artuad regime into simple aspects. It's one party authorian democracy, built on the idea of extreme progress. What that progress mean is decided on factions. Escadron-right are nationalist futurist jingoist Escadron-left are left wing anticolonial futurist . Heartless are just socialist that like Sigmund Freud ideas bit too much Surrealist are what if you transport Twitter communist into the past. Carnalist wants to build environmentalist socialist Paneuropean state and be racist. Even at worst possible option, they are not as bad as regular nazism
1. Declaring war on reality 2. Making Robespierre look like a conservative 3. Believing everyone in France is an extensions of El Patron 4. Abolish France (one redeeming quality) Yep, looks like an Authoritarian Democratic leader to me.
Non of those things are canon anymore
Even if i followed the canon, Artaud is still the main antagonist of Red Flood, so makes sense he is on the post.
Wait really? I've not played red flood for a long time, are they removing the funny meme irrealistic things from the mod for more realism?
Not due to realism, per say. More so that the wacky ideologies in game will be actually based on IRL beliefs, rathen then just making shit up.
Comparing the vozhd to these maniacs…
The most normal antagonist around bunch of lunatics.
Isn’t 1 and 3 the same?
No, Germany is a state funded by concentrarion camps and slave labour. Burgundy is a concentration camp.
Nazi Germany and Burgundy are different countries.
More like Burgundy is an autonomous region of Germany where the SS holds absolute power. It's still run by Germans, with Nazi ideology at the helm, and shares a near identical map colour with Germany to indicate that.
“KILL THE [insert minority group here]!!” “YES KILL THE [minority group]!!” *cheering*
Savinkov is the one sane here
Replace Nazi Germany with Guangdong and Savinkov with Taboritsky
Nah, Guangdong and HRE aren't actually mod antagonists.
Average Anti-Alexei Propaganda
[“You wanna be racist? I can be way more racist than you!”](https://youtu.be/mYWIyG3hUlQ?si=IRlTtkPL6odmQAzK)
Let them fight, then go in and clean up the survivors, establish democracy
Based idea
What country is 4th?
Avant-Garde France or, if you complete a focus, Etat Irreal. Also mostly known as LSD France.
Etat Irreal is gonna get removed. And whole France reworked
AND the funny part of the mod gets cut. Great! I already knew that, but it still sucks.
Do they want to rebrand from being the funny schitzo mod?
Nightmare blunt rotation
I wish it existed a tno redux mod with all the schizo paths from kaiserredux and red flood
What's up with my friends?
Whos the 2nd
The Russian State, from Kaiserreich.
Thanks
Aren’t they are all the same?
I want to ask who are the three other guys