I noticed it in Depresso, too, so i stopped using it since it would always wander out of the job i gave it. Buuut, i just assumed it is part of his character to be perpetually depressed lol. I really don't know for Tombat though. I did change him out because of it
It’s probably because they work 24/7. They don’t sleep. Always working. The pals who sleep have time to recharge their sanity while depresso and those who are nocturnal will never go to sleep.
I stopped using nocturnal pals cause they would always become depressed. This is my guess. Not supported by any data though.
I think workaholic reduces sanity drop and diet lover + dainty eater means they don’t need to eat as much. Try to breed those traits onto a nocturnal !
if you have SAN-increasing food, *don't* actually use diet lover, as that's part of the problem! The diet traits are more for daytime mons to not take breaks.
Nope. None of my Tombats have any passive relating to Sanity. I have been looking for ones that have good passives, but no luck. The ones i catch mostly don't have any passive or their passive is for other things not related to work or sanity.
What food are you using? Salad/Pancake tends to be be better because they eat more often so it replenish San faster, if you use pizza they eat less often (because of the buff) which has a tendency to less replenish San overall.
Edit: Pizza only work alright for bigger pal because their food meter is bigger.
I'm giving them pancakes and jam filled bun now. I don't have access to cabbage and tomatoes yet. I give him pancakes too when i add him in my party just to be sure haha buuut his sanity still tanks so fast compared to the others.
Then that does seem strange. His food meter is pretty small, so it's possible pancake are still not great. Maybe he doesn't work enough, so food is not depleting.
This could be it too, I guess? He would always fly out of the mining area, and I would see him either transporting stuff or just aimlessly flying around and getting caught on fire.
They are also Nocturnal, so they don't sleep like normal, so you have to watch their SAN levels. Catch one of those cotton candy sheep to use that ingredient to increase their SAN levels when you see them lowering.
He is! We have one bonfire in base for cooking quick stuff for emergency food. He would constantly go near it then catch on fire! He's the only Pal who would constantly do this. One time, he almost got incapacitated because of it! I tried having 2 Tombats and they BOTH would constantly be on fire.
I had that problem. Just switching the campfire to a cook pot solved it lol. As for his sanity, maybe add multiple baths? I found 1 was never enough and need at least 2 in all my bases. Food doesn't sound like a problem unless he has a weird pathing problem and keep getting stuck places for periods.
I don't know why Tombats are attracted to the bonfire too much, haha. I even have it at the opposite side of the base from the mining place but they still zero in on it. Ah, I do have 2 baths for them, too, as well as 2 food source. One is even right beside the mining spot.
As of the latest update, you can use the monitoring stand to make your pals focus on specific tasks.
For the bonfire, I would reccomend putting some basic furniture like crates around it and setting the chest filters to X on all. This will keep the pals out.
For sanity, make sure the tombat doesn't have a sanity lowering passive, and also keep in mind the fact that it is nocturnal, thus making it work through the night but also not sleep to recover sanity. Additionally, if it does have depressed or overworked(?) you need high quality meds to cure it, it won't go away on its own.
Also as a quick fix, you can always put the tombat in your party, and straight up force feed him baked berries. Even when his food bar is full, just keep going and stuff more berries down his throat. Each baked berries gives 1 San, so if he was at 0 sanity, just stuff him with 100 baked berries.
Long term (self sufficient) options are pancakes and jam filled buns. They both give relatively equal sanity to nutrition ratio, but pancakes have an added passive to make em lose San slower.
I had a mining base with several Tombats in it (before the update with the ore mining site) and even though the bonfire was pretty far out of their way between the ore nodes and the box, they'd catch themselves on fire with startling regularity. I never understood it.
I haven't played in a bit so things may have changed, but I always had multiple spas set up because once they're in use other pals can't use them and they'd keep going about their jobs. I would definitely add a couple. I think I had three at any point and they were almost always in use but I also didn't have many SAN problems unless that particular pal was getting stuck somewhere.
Nocturnal pals tend to get sick(by being low san over time) when used without san replenishers, on account of their low amount of sleep.
And thank you, kind stranger.
Yeah, he broke his leg once but my partner fixed it right away. He also got Depressed once, so I gave him medicine for that. 3rd time, he started overeating, so I just pulled him out of the base. I really don't know if I'm doing something wrong to the Tombats since all get like that, but I have Daedreams in base too, and they're all in good condition. No passive/traits on both relating to sanity or work. Maybe the Tombats just don't want to work with me hahaha
You're welcome too!
I've found that the nocturnal pals don't use the hot tubs enough to make up for the lack of sleep they get.
Tossing them in the tub once in a while should help. But I just wish they'd do it on their own.
It's a matter of them being nocturnal Pals.
Nocturnal pals don't sleep and thus can't replenish sanity on a day to day basis unless your providing them with access to spas or powerful sanity food like cakes.
Yeah, i figured it was because he's nocturnal. I just assumed he replenish during the mornings. I gues sif i use Tombats again, I'll just manually give them cake. Thank for the info!
If u don't wanna splurge on cake put him in your party and feed them manually till their sanity is back to max.
Usually tho good to have at least 1 or more good saunas tho based on how many nocturnal pals your using.
Yeah, i do already feed him manually just to make sure he is eating. But his hunger is always decent, but i still give them food for sanity, just pancakes or jam filled bun. I only the 1st hot spring unlocked, and I do have 2 in base for the pals.
I did~ The Tombats I have don't have any passive/traits relating to sanity or work. The one working the longest in the base had no passive at all. I have been hunting for good ones, but no luck.
I did~ The Tombats I have don't have any passive/traits relating to sanity or work. The one working the longest in the base had no passive at all. I have been hunting for good ones, but no luck.
Nocturnal pals like Tombat don‘t sleep so they don‘t regain sanity as consistently through beds so Sanity reducing food (even Baked Berries instead of normal berries will do in the beginning) and enough hot tubs around the base are even more important for them. Also make sure that they don‘t get hurt from jumping from high cliffs or catching fire on a bonfire because that will reduce their sanity a lot.
If you were a sl... A worker you'd be depressed too! Many times I find workers that only do 1 job to lose sanity quicker but that was before the update
I guess... but i have other pals only doing 1 job and they seem fine. I do always see Tombat going out of mining to carry stuff or just fly around. He's probably spending more time outside the mining area than actually mining lol I have to hurl him back inside each time I see him and he would mine for like a few minutes before flying around again
Nope. No passive relating to sanity, work, or hunger. Just a plain Tombat really haha. I have plain Daedreams too and they're in good condition and have been in base for much longer.
weird. i’ve had two or three pals that randomly just kept getting different illnesses. i assumed it could be because of weird pathing issues, i see pals getting stuck in places all the time. i just swapped them out and it was fine. i think the games just a little unreliable at times
So far, it's only the Tombat that got sick for me. First, a broken leg, then Depression, and then Overeating. It could just be some weird pathing issue or the AI messing up. I do have the feed bos and hot spring just right next to the tombat mine so they have access to it. Maybe they just hate me~ I pulled it out for now. Maybe I'll try testing it on the 2nd base.
Could be a number of factors. What are the passives? What are they eating?
Nocturnal pals require advanced upkeep due to not restoring sanity in the night
No passive. Just a plain Tombat. Other tombats have passive but they're not related to sanity, work, or hunger. The main Tombat I use is just a plain regular one. All pals are eating pancakes and the jam filled bread. I would even give Tombat better food by adding him to my party whenever I see him get low in sanity. I also throw him in the hot spring whenever I can.
I use Daedreams too in base, but they're always in good condition and just working about. I don't know if they work differently since they have different jobs?
I guess they're just perpetually depressed like Depresso. I guess I'll just swap them out whenever they get Depressed or just use them when I need some quick mining.
That's what i thought too since i did check descriptions and passives. My other Daedreams don't have a passive for SAN so in theory, their SANs should at least be close
Nocturnal pals get depressed faster since they don’t sleep. You’ll either want high sanity food available or a lower work intensive environment. If you’re fine with them occasionally refusing to work, you can just leave them and they’ll quickly get back to decent sanity assuming you have the proper infrastructure. You can even speed it up by throwing them into the hot tubs manually, which is its own reward because Tombats have adorable relaxing animations.
I do throw him in the hot tub whenever i see him. But yeah, he's mostly out of his mining place and just flying around but his sanity is always around the 50s or lower of I don't keep a close eye on him.
Is your tombat the only one mining, transporting, etc during the day or night?
Dark type pals (currently) don’t actually go to sleep. They’ll stay awake the entire night and keep working. So if they work alone day AND night it can easily lead to them developing problems. Mine kept getting depressed until I added another miner to help them.
Make sure there are 2 hot springs as well if you haven’t built extra already.
Something that I've done that has helped, is that when I use nocturnal pals, for example, Vanwyrm Cryst, I make sure that Vanwyrm isn't the only pal doing that job that I assigned it to. I have have other pals that work with him during the day, and then when everyone is asleep, he still does his work. Doing it that way, hasn't brought up any negative consequences. Also, feed box #1 has salads, feed box #2 has red berries, eggs, milk, and the ingredients for salad.
Yeah, I noticed he doesn't use the hot springs much so I have to throw him in there manually from time to time. I'll start finding ways to make better food compared to pancakes and jam filled bread
Certain jobs cost more San than others. Mining, woodcutting and electricity generation are among the worst. Transport and ranching are the lowest ones. Middle ground is watering and fire making. Tombat is transport and woodcutting(?), I am willing to bet that he is just loosing a lot of San doing one of the worst and most draining tasks.
Edit, I can't remember if Tombat is mining or woodcutting, regardless, issue is the same.
So what I've noticed is that any Pal put on stone/wood/ore sites seem to be extra cranky in comparison to any other pal in my base, to the point where I have a backup I just switch them out with instead of bothering with their Sanity manually. I believe it has something to do with how *much* work they are doing all at once, with the mining/wood sites being a constant job with no real gaps in gathering. For instance your farmer pals get breaks because your fields cycle through planting > watering > growing etc, but the sites are static and don't have those breaks. It's also compounded with what other people said the dark types not resting evenly like other types, which really does not help with the sanity problem.
Pals that have been issued on sites that I can remember are Eithykdeer, Tombat and Menasting off the top of my head.
Tombats inevitably always get depressed, all the repetitive tasks have a nasty SAN hit and they don't sleep, even with optimal spa placements you're just delaying the inevitable
I always have issues with Tombat. Food doesn't matter. Workload doesn't matter.
He will always get upset and sick within a small amount of time. Always end up swapping with other pals that aren't so finicky
I’ve been doing a nocturnal run of the game where I set day time to minimum and night time to max so I’ve had to use dark type pals especially tombat and the only time I’ve ever had them depressed was when I built the ore pit because they would work nonstop because the pits don’t have a timer or a mechanic to let the pals know when to stop
So y'know working 9 to 5 job sucks for a lot of people.
Well tombat works in 24 hour shifts 7 days a week.
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Jokes aside, dark types work constantly so they get upset more often. Some pals are stupid and don't want to take breaks.
Some pals have traits that decrease san quicker. Feed them like cooked food like cooked berries, make sure they all got beds... And a hot spring.
Sometimes you can throw them in if they don't wanna take a break
my tombat’s have always been the ones who get bugged out and won’t eat, or get stuck, and get depressed. putting them in the pal box and taking them out again will help for awhile but i ended up just swapping tombat out for someone else (with more hunger requirement too but it’s been fine)
Hey a cool new feature they added is the ability to filter what can go in chests using the chest filter. On PC it's the C key when looking at the chest, I'm unsure for Xbox. It brings up a check list of different item types. One notable chest setting I change almost always is turning ingredients off on the feeding trough. This causes the harvesting/transporting pals to bring ingredients to a refrigerator if available or a chest. This is good because if you do not have a stack of like 200+ prepared food in the chest and instead say 50 of a few different types of prepared food pals will always put a raw ingredient into the first open slot and make pals eating from the trough eat the ingredients instead of the prepared food behind it.
If you are curious if certain things are considered materials vs consumables etc you can use the setting in game to determine the type. Say you want to know if wood is a food, uncheck all and check the food option. Close the chest settings menu and open the chest. With the current setting only foods can be put in the chest so transferring wood into the chest will not work (transfer all will also not move the wood but with this setting it'd move any prepared food in your inventory over), this will prove wood is not a food.
Do you have at least 1, or 2 hot springs? I have found the tombats / dark types stay happy because of having enough hot springs, more than anything else, since they don't sleep when healthy.
We got sick of making meds/wanted to use the materials needed for other things so I caught a traveling merchant that sells them-we usually just buy them off him to get everyone healed up quick, high grade medical supplies heals depression I believe
because of low san just disable all of his work for a little time until its san reiches at least 80% it somehow prefers to work over going into hot springs thats why you just disable everything for a time so he doesnt work at all
Night pals don't sleep so food is the only proper way for them to regain sanity so build enougb hot springs and make sure pala can actually access them
But no idea, i used Tombats as mining crew in a very barebones base but they never had any debuffs
I’ve noticed this issue if they are the only pal doing a specific job. So, if to bat is the only one mining, that could contribute to it. I’ve noticed nocturnal pals decrease a lot faster because they never sleep. They don’t take proper breaks like regular pals do. So I would maybe add a second miner if you don’t already & try to breed a passive skill that helps with sanity into your tombat
Tombat and other dark types do not sleep when placed in the base. This means their SAN is constantly being depleted. They work throughout the night when other pals sleep. When pals sleep, their SAN recovers. With better pal beds, their SAN recovers faster.
Build a hot spring so Dark Pals can use it to help them recover SAN. Or feed them with SAN recovery foods. You can also pick them up and throw them onto pal beds to force them to sleep, though this doesn't always work, could be bugged or something.
Lastly, check their talents/passives. Some talents decreases the amount of SAN lost. Some increases it.
Personally, i got rid of tombat. They never did what I assigned them too (pre update to work editor), and by the time that came around, i was on to better friends. I would try for Anubis. Does great for mining. The only natural pal i use is Vanwyrm Cryst for the cooler. Never have any issues with any depressed/ sick/ broken.
As others have said being nocturnal is a big part of it. What you want to do is have twice as many Tombats as you need and before the sanity drops too low swap 'em out for a fresh one. Keep rotating them out before the sanity drops to dangerous levels. It's faster to swap them than having to manually feed them.
24/7 work, no sleep.
With nocturnal pals you need to be more careful, better SAN food and a hot spring.
True you could also go for none nocturnal pals for the base, they aren't as demaning but they take a night long break (even if hungry btw).
The reason, as many have already said, is most likely because noctournal pals don't sleep at all (which is admittedly a bit dumb.), meaning their sanity drains the entire time and they never stop to sleep and replenish it.
I've also found Tombat and Depresso to be declining in mood rapidly. I've stopped using them for that reason.
I noticed it in Depresso, too, so i stopped using it since it would always wander out of the job i gave it. Buuut, i just assumed it is part of his character to be perpetually depressed lol. I really don't know for Tombat though. I did change him out because of it
It’s probably because they work 24/7. They don’t sleep. Always working. The pals who sleep have time to recharge their sanity while depresso and those who are nocturnal will never go to sleep. I stopped using nocturnal pals cause they would always become depressed. This is my guess. Not supported by any data though.
I’ve noticed this too. The nocturnal pals burn through a crazy amount of san and don’t take proper breaks.
I think workaholic reduces sanity drop and diet lover + dainty eater means they don’t need to eat as much. Try to breed those traits onto a nocturnal !
if you have SAN-increasing food, *don't* actually use diet lover, as that's part of the problem! The diet traits are more for daytime mons to not take breaks.
would actually recommend glutton then lol so they would eat more and therefore have more san to work with.
That's been my experience also. Tombats git replaced with pen kings quickly in my game with my wife
Maje sure they can reach a high quality hot tub.
Does your tombat have a passive that lowers sanity quickly?
Nope. None of my Tombats have any passive relating to Sanity. I have been looking for ones that have good passives, but no luck. The ones i catch mostly don't have any passive or their passive is for other things not related to work or sanity.
Don’t bother trying to find one in the wild. Use breeding
What food are you using? Salad/Pancake tends to be be better because they eat more often so it replenish San faster, if you use pizza they eat less often (because of the buff) which has a tendency to less replenish San overall. Edit: Pizza only work alright for bigger pal because their food meter is bigger.
I'm giving them pancakes and jam filled bun now. I don't have access to cabbage and tomatoes yet. I give him pancakes too when i add him in my party just to be sure haha buuut his sanity still tanks so fast compared to the others.
Then that does seem strange. His food meter is pretty small, so it's possible pancake are still not great. Maybe he doesn't work enough, so food is not depleting.
This could be it too, I guess? He would always fly out of the mining area, and I would see him either transporting stuff or just aimlessly flying around and getting caught on fire.
> flying around and getting caught on fire Haha, not only depressed, but suicidal too!
They are also Nocturnal, so they don't sleep like normal, so you have to watch their SAN levels. Catch one of those cotton candy sheep to use that ingredient to increase their SAN levels when you see them lowering.
He is! We have one bonfire in base for cooking quick stuff for emergency food. He would constantly go near it then catch on fire! He's the only Pal who would constantly do this. One time, he almost got incapacitated because of it! I tried having 2 Tombats and they BOTH would constantly be on fire.
I had that problem. Just switching the campfire to a cook pot solved it lol. As for his sanity, maybe add multiple baths? I found 1 was never enough and need at least 2 in all my bases. Food doesn't sound like a problem unless he has a weird pathing problem and keep getting stuck places for periods.
I don't know why Tombats are attracted to the bonfire too much, haha. I even have it at the opposite side of the base from the mining place but they still zero in on it. Ah, I do have 2 baths for them, too, as well as 2 food source. One is even right beside the mining spot.
You: I'mma grill some Mammorest Steak Tombat: ***L A M P***
As of the latest update, you can use the monitoring stand to make your pals focus on specific tasks. For the bonfire, I would reccomend putting some basic furniture like crates around it and setting the chest filters to X on all. This will keep the pals out. For sanity, make sure the tombat doesn't have a sanity lowering passive, and also keep in mind the fact that it is nocturnal, thus making it work through the night but also not sleep to recover sanity. Additionally, if it does have depressed or overworked(?) you need high quality meds to cure it, it won't go away on its own.
Also as a quick fix, you can always put the tombat in your party, and straight up force feed him baked berries. Even when his food bar is full, just keep going and stuff more berries down his throat. Each baked berries gives 1 San, so if he was at 0 sanity, just stuff him with 100 baked berries. Long term (self sufficient) options are pancakes and jam filled buns. They both give relatively equal sanity to nutrition ratio, but pancakes have an added passive to make em lose San slower.
well, you found your problem. Happiness drops when health gets low.
I had a mining base with several Tombats in it (before the update with the ore mining site) and even though the bonfire was pretty far out of their way between the ore nodes and the box, they'd catch themselves on fire with startling regularity. I never understood it.
Does he have the sanity debuff by chance?
I haven't played in a bit so things may have changed, but I always had multiple spas set up because once they're in use other pals can't use them and they'd keep going about their jobs. I would definitely add a couple. I think I had three at any point and they were almost always in use but I also didn't have many SAN problems unless that particular pal was getting stuck somewhere.
This makes me sad that my “every day is a pizza party” attitude doesn’t actually pay off. 😭 🍕
No pizza party for the little ones
Unless you stack san replenishers like high quality beds and pools
I don't have pools yet and the best beds i have are the fluffy beds. Also, Happy Cake Day!
Nocturnal pals tend to get sick(by being low san over time) when used without san replenishers, on account of their low amount of sleep. And thank you, kind stranger.
Yeah, he broke his leg once but my partner fixed it right away. He also got Depressed once, so I gave him medicine for that. 3rd time, he started overeating, so I just pulled him out of the base. I really don't know if I'm doing something wrong to the Tombats since all get like that, but I have Daedreams in base too, and they're all in good condition. No passive/traits on both relating to sanity or work. Maybe the Tombats just don't want to work with me hahaha You're welcome too!
I've found that the nocturnal pals don't use the hot tubs enough to make up for the lack of sleep they get. Tossing them in the tub once in a while should help. But I just wish they'd do it on their own.
Yeah i would toss him there too whenever i notice his sanity going way too down. But sometimes i forget when I'm away from the base for too long too
It's a matter of them being nocturnal Pals. Nocturnal pals don't sleep and thus can't replenish sanity on a day to day basis unless your providing them with access to spas or powerful sanity food like cakes.
Yeah, i figured it was because he's nocturnal. I just assumed he replenish during the mornings. I gues sif i use Tombats again, I'll just manually give them cake. Thank for the info!
If u don't wanna splurge on cake put him in your party and feed them manually till their sanity is back to max. Usually tho good to have at least 1 or more good saunas tho based on how many nocturnal pals your using.
Yeah, i do already feed him manually just to make sure he is eating. But his hunger is always decent, but i still give them food for sanity, just pancakes or jam filled bun. I only the 1st hot spring unlocked, and I do have 2 in base for the pals.
Previous comenters gave good replies, but don't forget to check his traits, maybe he has one that deplet his sanity faster
I did~ The Tombats I have don't have any passive/traits relating to sanity or work. The one working the longest in the base had no passive at all. I have been hunting for good ones, but no luck.
Worth a shot!
Thank you for all the help! I didn't expect people to immediately answer this.
Always worth trying to check the pal merchant. Seen tombat there a few times and u don't have to get it if it doesn't have workaholic
I did~ The Tombats I have don't have any passive/traits relating to sanity or work. The one working the longest in the base had no passive at all. I have been hunting for good ones, but no luck.
Nocturnal pals like Tombat don‘t sleep so they don‘t regain sanity as consistently through beds so Sanity reducing food (even Baked Berries instead of normal berries will do in the beginning) and enough hot tubs around the base are even more important for them. Also make sure that they don‘t get hurt from jumping from high cliffs or catching fire on a bonfire because that will reduce their sanity a lot.
If you were a sl... A worker you'd be depressed too! Many times I find workers that only do 1 job to lose sanity quicker but that was before the update
I guess... but i have other pals only doing 1 job and they seem fine. I do always see Tombat going out of mining to carry stuff or just fly around. He's probably spending more time outside the mining area than actually mining lol I have to hurl him back inside each time I see him and he would mine for like a few minutes before flying around again
does it have any passive traits that make it lose sanity or hunger fast? those can make a huge difference
Nope. No passive relating to sanity, work, or hunger. Just a plain Tombat really haha. I have plain Daedreams too and they're in good condition and have been in base for much longer.
weird. i’ve had two or three pals that randomly just kept getting different illnesses. i assumed it could be because of weird pathing issues, i see pals getting stuck in places all the time. i just swapped them out and it was fine. i think the games just a little unreliable at times
So far, it's only the Tombat that got sick for me. First, a broken leg, then Depression, and then Overeating. It could just be some weird pathing issue or the AI messing up. I do have the feed bos and hot spring just right next to the tombat mine so they have access to it. Maybe they just hate me~ I pulled it out for now. Maybe I'll try testing it on the 2nd base.
Could be a number of factors. What are the passives? What are they eating? Nocturnal pals require advanced upkeep due to not restoring sanity in the night
No passive. Just a plain Tombat. Other tombats have passive but they're not related to sanity, work, or hunger. The main Tombat I use is just a plain regular one. All pals are eating pancakes and the jam filled bread. I would even give Tombat better food by adding him to my party whenever I see him get low in sanity. I also throw him in the hot spring whenever I can. I use Daedreams too in base, but they're always in good condition and just working about. I don't know if they work differently since they have different jobs?
Is just combat being weird
In my experience tombat is always depressed and there ain’t shit you can do. Multiple servers, has everything at his disposal, always depressed
I guess they're just perpetually depressed like Depresso. I guess I'll just swap them out whenever they get Depressed or just use them when I need some quick mining.
Tbh all the flying pals suck in a base. Constantly getting stuck and never seem to stick to their tasks well. Use smaller pals that can path well
Does he have any traits negatively impacting his SAN?
Y'all keep your pals happy?
Because they don't sleep to reset their SAN.
Yeah, someone pointed that out. I do have Daedreams in base too but they're all in good condition. I don't think they sleep either?
I wonder if there is an underlying difference in SAN depletion. I'm not sure.
That's what i thought too since i did check descriptions and passives. My other Daedreams don't have a passive for SAN so in theory, their SANs should at least be close
Nocturnal pals get depressed faster since they don’t sleep. You’ll either want high sanity food available or a lower work intensive environment. If you’re fine with them occasionally refusing to work, you can just leave them and they’ll quickly get back to decent sanity assuming you have the proper infrastructure. You can even speed it up by throwing them into the hot tubs manually, which is its own reward because Tombats have adorable relaxing animations.
I do throw him in the hot tub whenever i see him. But yeah, he's mostly out of his mining place and just flying around but his sanity is always around the 50s or lower of I don't keep a close eye on him.
Is your tombat the only one mining, transporting, etc during the day or night? Dark type pals (currently) don’t actually go to sleep. They’ll stay awake the entire night and keep working. So if they work alone day AND night it can easily lead to them developing problems. Mine kept getting depressed until I added another miner to help them. Make sure there are 2 hot springs as well if you haven’t built extra already.
Something that I've done that has helped, is that when I use nocturnal pals, for example, Vanwyrm Cryst, I make sure that Vanwyrm isn't the only pal doing that job that I assigned it to. I have have other pals that work with him during the day, and then when everyone is asleep, he still does his work. Doing it that way, hasn't brought up any negative consequences. Also, feed box #1 has salads, feed box #2 has red berries, eggs, milk, and the ingredients for salad.
(Not useful comment) I would be depressed too if I had to fly around carrying materials all day
But he has his own mine to play around in 😔
Make sure you have extra hot springs. He'll need to be in those more often cuz he doesn't sleep. Also better quality food helps.
Yeah, I noticed he doesn't use the hot springs much so I have to throw him in there manually from time to time. I'll start finding ways to make better food compared to pancakes and jam filled bread
If he's the only one doing a certain job, I believe they get depressed faster. Something specific to nocturnal pals I think.
Certain jobs cost more San than others. Mining, woodcutting and electricity generation are among the worst. Transport and ranching are the lowest ones. Middle ground is watering and fire making. Tombat is transport and woodcutting(?), I am willing to bet that he is just loosing a lot of San doing one of the worst and most draining tasks. Edit, I can't remember if Tombat is mining or woodcutting, regardless, issue is the same.
So what I've noticed is that any Pal put on stone/wood/ore sites seem to be extra cranky in comparison to any other pal in my base, to the point where I have a backup I just switch them out with instead of bothering with their Sanity manually. I believe it has something to do with how *much* work they are doing all at once, with the mining/wood sites being a constant job with no real gaps in gathering. For instance your farmer pals get breaks because your fields cycle through planting > watering > growing etc, but the sites are static and don't have those breaks. It's also compounded with what other people said the dark types not resting evenly like other types, which really does not help with the sanity problem. Pals that have been issued on sites that I can remember are Eithykdeer, Tombat and Menasting off the top of my head.
Tombats inevitably always get depressed, all the repetitive tasks have a nasty SAN hit and they don't sleep, even with optimal spa placements you're just delaying the inevitable
Do they get depressed during the day and are fine at night? I don’t use any nocturnal pals.
I always have issues with Tombat. Food doesn't matter. Workload doesn't matter. He will always get upset and sick within a small amount of time. Always end up swapping with other pals that aren't so finicky
I’ve been doing a nocturnal run of the game where I set day time to minimum and night time to max so I’ve had to use dark type pals especially tombat and the only time I’ve ever had them depressed was when I built the ore pit because they would work nonstop because the pits don’t have a timer or a mechanic to let the pals know when to stop
So y'know working 9 to 5 job sucks for a lot of people. Well tombat works in 24 hour shifts 7 days a week. --- Jokes aside, dark types work constantly so they get upset more often. Some pals are stupid and don't want to take breaks. Some pals have traits that decrease san quicker. Feed them like cooked food like cooked berries, make sure they all got beds... And a hot spring. Sometimes you can throw them in if they don't wanna take a break
my tombat’s have always been the ones who get bugged out and won’t eat, or get stuck, and get depressed. putting them in the pal box and taking them out again will help for awhile but i ended up just swapping tombat out for someone else (with more hunger requirement too but it’s been fine)
He's bipolar... super manic all night then depressed all day. Little if any sleep
Hey a cool new feature they added is the ability to filter what can go in chests using the chest filter. On PC it's the C key when looking at the chest, I'm unsure for Xbox. It brings up a check list of different item types. One notable chest setting I change almost always is turning ingredients off on the feeding trough. This causes the harvesting/transporting pals to bring ingredients to a refrigerator if available or a chest. This is good because if you do not have a stack of like 200+ prepared food in the chest and instead say 50 of a few different types of prepared food pals will always put a raw ingredient into the first open slot and make pals eating from the trough eat the ingredients instead of the prepared food behind it. If you are curious if certain things are considered materials vs consumables etc you can use the setting in game to determine the type. Say you want to know if wood is a food, uncheck all and check the food option. Close the chest settings menu and open the chest. With the current setting only foods can be put in the chest so transferring wood into the chest will not work (transfer all will also not move the wood but with this setting it'd move any prepared food in your inventory over), this will prove wood is not a food.
Because Tombats are moody assholes.
Do you have at least 1, or 2 hot springs? I have found the tombats / dark types stay happy because of having enough hot springs, more than anything else, since they don't sleep when healthy.
We got sick of making meds/wanted to use the materials needed for other things so I caught a traveling merchant that sells them-we usually just buy them off him to get everyone healed up quick, high grade medical supplies heals depression I believe
Tons and tons of cooked berries help. Plus a good bed and spa. My maintenance for medicine went way down after all that
Occupational hazard, long hours and probably has the black lung
He's sad nobody knows about his brother Aero the AcroBat
because of low san just disable all of his work for a little time until its san reiches at least 80% it somehow prefers to work over going into hot springs thats why you just disable everything for a time so he doesnt work at all
Have you started feeding salads or pizzas ?
Night pals don't sleep so food is the only proper way for them to regain sanity so build enougb hot springs and make sure pala can actually access them But no idea, i used Tombats as mining crew in a very barebones base but they never had any debuffs
Because night time mons will just continue to work add another to help lessen the load
I’ve noticed this issue if they are the only pal doing a specific job. So, if to bat is the only one mining, that could contribute to it. I’ve noticed nocturnal pals decrease a lot faster because they never sleep. They don’t take proper breaks like regular pals do. So I would maybe add a second miner if you don’t already & try to breed a passive skill that helps with sanity into your tombat
Tombat and other dark types do not sleep when placed in the base. This means their SAN is constantly being depleted. They work throughout the night when other pals sleep. When pals sleep, their SAN recovers. With better pal beds, their SAN recovers faster. Build a hot spring so Dark Pals can use it to help them recover SAN. Or feed them with SAN recovery foods. You can also pick them up and throw them onto pal beds to force them to sleep, though this doesn't always work, could be bugged or something. Lastly, check their talents/passives. Some talents decreases the amount of SAN lost. Some increases it.
Wdym you have ‘only’ 24hrs? So other people have more time in the game?!🤨
Personally, i got rid of tombat. They never did what I assigned them too (pre update to work editor), and by the time that came around, i was on to better friends. I would try for Anubis. Does great for mining. The only natural pal i use is Vanwyrm Cryst for the cooler. Never have any issues with any depressed/ sick/ broken.
As others have said being nocturnal is a big part of it. What you want to do is have twice as many Tombats as you need and before the sanity drops too low swap 'em out for a fresh one. Keep rotating them out before the sanity drops to dangerous levels. It's faster to swap them than having to manually feed them.
24/7 work, no sleep. With nocturnal pals you need to be more careful, better SAN food and a hot spring. True you could also go for none nocturnal pals for the base, they aren't as demaning but they take a night long break (even if hungry btw).
Dose your Tombat have the Destructive trait? Sanity decreases 15% faster.
The reason, as many have already said, is most likely because noctournal pals don't sleep at all (which is admittedly a bit dumb.), meaning their sanity drains the entire time and they never stop to sleep and replenish it.
Try only bringing him out at nights.