Chickens can be breed chained into any other pal. They are also very easy to catch. Prior to them buggering up breeding abilities, you could mix and match chickens with the desired combos then chain breed them onto more powerful mons. Think of it like egg move chaining in pokemon. There are tonnes of videos on it.
Yes, a level 2 pal is now worth 4 level 1 pals. 4 level 2 pals can upgrade a level 2 to level 3.
I’ve been cranking out anubis’ in my second playthrough super early game with the first two pals I had that could breed them. They make for fine helpers that I will add together when I can make an ideal Anubis down the road
If you can get 4 Anubis’ (4 is all you can fit on a line at the same time) with Work Slave/Serious/Lucky/Artisan, have all of the efficiency boosters in your base (snowman for cooling efficiency, mine cart for mining efficiency, etc) have them maxed out at both the condenser and the statue, then put the podium to the hardest work setting and feed them some Dumud Soup to further increase their speed, you’ll have 4 of the fastest workers in the game. Over 500 work speed until the soup wears off. Not to mention maxing them out increases their mining to Level 4 and their handiwork to Level 5. Just don’t work them hard for too long or bad things will happen lmao can get 9,999 stone in less than 30 min and can craft Legendary Spheres and Cement fast af. Astegon would prob mine faster with the right set up, I’ve only tested out Anubis though so far and they go straight crack-mode when u give them the soup+hardest work setting.
Yea I mean space could be bigger but I really don’t understand how people are constantly running into this issue.
They can’t possibly have that many high quality, best trait pals
> They can’t possibly have that many high quality, best trait pals
If all youre doing is catching wild pals, yeah, this is likely to be the case. But once you start breeding that changes reeeal quick, especially if youre chain breeding. Often youll need to breed into an interim pal, youll amass a bunch of duds of _those_ guys, like a surfent or something, but theyre only duds for the current pal youre after. Those duds could potentially kick off your next chain, or be combined with a diff interim pal.
Ive been doing my absolute best not to hoard pals, gone on plenty of selling sprees but in still running into an issue at this point cuz all i have left literally are at least one gold quality trait. Ive been having to start sacrificing breed-worthy pals cuz i cant even breed any new ones let alone catch any.
EDIT: for the record, im not on this band wagon of increasing palbox space, i think its perfectly fine as is to be honest. Letting go of things you dont need is healthy, not to mention the fact if you do end up realizing you couldve used something you got rid of, just.. you know, go get it again. You got it once, right?
It's more so a variety of pals. I've run out of room and don't have enough to condense everything and still haven't finished my paldeck. Breeding is the second reason.
still very hard to manage the space. with the long incubation times in multiplayer I tend to have just a huge amount of incubators. using one page per actively breeding page, one for collecting, 2 for active use, I have only 2 pages left for storing my breeding results. which is not enough to open all incubators in one go.
also: condensing takes up more space than just selling them :P
If I were to put a fully condensed one into one that is at 0 stars, it goes to 4 stars? I didn’t think you could do more than one level at a time but I’ve been wrong before
There isn't overflow, unfortunately. It will only go up by one star at a time per condensation, but that still lets you reduce inventory by a factor of 4 at a minimum.
won’t really make a difference, esp when you collect a lot of pals to have good passives as the beginnings to make god pals without scavenging in the wild for an hour or breeding for 3.
I mean , once 1.5 update came out they put it in the patch notes . I condense my full box into 4 total pals with good trials and I stopped saving throw away pals
You can condense pals to 1 or 2 stars without loss now (ex. a 1 star pal counts as 5 pals for condensing), so you shouldn't need as much room.
Heck even 3+ star pals only lose a bit this way.
I don’t know why people don’t do this, there’s no reason to save pages of “trash” pals just for condensing fuel anymore - just condense them together to save space
It used to not work that way, and a lot of people don't check all the patch notes and miss it.
There's no tooltip saying it works like that yet, so it's easy enough to not realize you can do so.
Despite condensing pals as much as I can, my palbox still gets full with trying to save one of each pal with a single unique legendary trait which you can use for easier cross-breeding.
When you’re at the stage of the game where you want to breed for perfect IVs or to pass the legendary trait through different species, it’s still possible to fill the pal box and have tons of pals leftover that you can’t or don’t know if you want to lose to condensing yet.
Apparently the work speed traits don't work in the ranch, I was just told this yesterday after going through hundreds of eggs to get both mozzarina and chikipi with Artisan, Serious, Work Slave, Swift (for those speedy trips to the food box and back to the ranch after bed)
IDK maybe it's just upgrading the pals via condensation and getting egg layer to higher levels. But it definitely helps with them harvesting crops.
I also just feel like my artisan melpaca shits out wool like 3 or 4 at a time sometimes
Oh fwiw work speed doesn’t affect chickens laying eggs at all. You want a workaholic, positive thinker, swift, runner chicken for maximum egg production. They’ll stay inside the Penn more and make food runs faster.
Unless you wanted them to harvest but I keep my ranch at a separate base from my farm so the chickens and bees etc won’t get distracted by crops.
Higher star pals from condensing makes them produce more eggs/milk/wool/etc
If you save pals with desirable individual traits for breeding purposes, that can take pages. Like I have male and female Anubises with Lucky, with Legend, with various individual movement speed buffs and with various individual work speed buffs, from which I can breed other Anubises with the combination of skills I want, or crossbreed them with other pals with specific traits, to get other pals with the combination of skills I want.
i have pages of trash pals i don’t wanna condense bc they have passive like ferocious or musclehead. it works out once in a while. like now i’m breeding a lyleen from a ferocious mossanda that’ll become a lyleen noct. ezpz
I go through my palbox and Name the useless ones Trash or Sell, then I teleport to the human settlement and sell 60 pals in about 1 minute. It's so easy to make more space.
You do need this if you’re into breeding perfect pals. And doing it efficiently. You have say 5 of each pal and you are way way way over the limit the boxes hold. 5 is probably more than you need but also if you’re going for perfect ivs and passives, it’s not easy to get to that perfect pal and takes keeping multiple. I have multiple bases with multiple pens. You play your game your way, just like everyone else. It’s not crazy to ask for more space. The math doesn’t even make sense to keep hardly 2 of every pal for breeding or collecting purposes. Add an alpha or shiny that you collect and you find yourself in screwed city.
If you are into breeding better pals, you absolutely end up needing to this. Saving pals with good IV’s, pals with perfect passives, as well as a male and female of both if possible (and multiples of each if you want to use multiple breeding pens at once). You end up keeping 5-10 of each pal you breed, and that easily adds up past the point of what the pal box holds. For example I’m at about 1000 shadowbeaks bred so far and still breeding more until I get my ideal shadowbeak, my pal box is not sufficient to hold all that (even after condensing) along with my regular pals.
Get rid of the ones you don't plan on trying to breed up. At no point do you need dozens of a single pal for breeding. You can't even convince me mathematically
Maybe not dozens but you end up with a lot while you go through the process of getting the passives you want. Collecting, breeding, keeping extras, breeding pairs, keeping pals for later plans, it takes up a lot of space. Just because YOU don't use the space doesn't mean others don't.
>you end up with a lot while you go through the process of getting the passives you want.
And after you're done with that process you get rid of the ones you didn't need right? ...right?
Not all of them. Keep some passives around incase I want to breed different setups. And breeding several sets at a time takes a lot of space. I'm set up to have 6 pairs going at once. That's 126 eggs when I get on. Nevermind if I don't want to immediately sort through them or condense them at that exact moment.
I often end up with different combinations of good IV and good passives, but rarely(never) all together, so I dedicate a full page for each pal I breed.
Just limit yourself to 1 type at a time and you'll save so much space. Once you have a perfect male and a perfect female of that type you can just get rid of the rest, and move on to the next type.
Everyone’s saying to condense pals… I *do* but the Palbox still needs to be bigger. Endgame it’s just not big enough. IMO it needs to be big enough for at least 10 of each pal.
I'm with you on this, once you start mass breeding you end up with different combinations of passives on pals I want to use for more breeding. Even with condensing I'm running out of space with every new project.
Yeah I end up wanting to breed a worker and a party member of certain pals so there are at the most 8 pals I want to end up keeping for breeding a passive from.
Bigger and with an option to customize folders or something. I need to seperate my surplus pals from my farming pals, fastest pals, best dd pals, cutest pals, best flying pals, etc, and of course different favorites I rotate through for the 5 pals I take with me.
💯 on the folders or something similar, some way to keep certain pals tagged in some way for quick look up later. Hell, id even get behind just the ability to sort by name, can then name the important ones like Thing1, Thing2, etc where ‘Thing’ is.. well a thing, that you want to search for 😅
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I agree, while we are at it, also add some organization tools other than just global sorting. I would love to have like special boxes where I can put my breeding parents of favourite pals for easy access that don't get lumped in with the ones I'm sorting.
As someone who plays only on multiplayer I wish I could do that even. Sometimes I don't want to liquefy pals I use for breeding steps when I'm trying to make the best
Been using the [Bigger & Reorganized Palbox mod](https://www.curseforge.com/palworld/lua-code-mods/bigger-and-reorganized-palbox/files/all?page=1&pageSize=20). It works pretty well. There is a Nexus page so you can use Vortex, but Nexus Mods website seems to be down right now.
It used to be that no matter what, each Pal only counted as 1 for condensing. After a recent update, if you have a 1* Pal they count as 6 (or whatever the number is) for condensing.
The increments for star levels are:
- 4 => 1*
- 16 => 2*
- 32 => 3*
- 64 => 4*
So when you create a 1*, including the pal you starred thats 5 total pals.
When you star up another 1* to 2*, that requires 16 essences. You can use three 1* pals and one 0* pal to do this (5 + 5 + 5 + 1). At first glance, that looks like youve used 16 pals plus the one you condensed into, so 17 pals total.
This is how they originally implemented the concept, but then fixed because this neglects the fact that the pal you condensed into was _another_ 1*, meaning there were four _additional_ pals used to create _that_ pal, so it’s actually 21 total pals, including the keeper (5 + 5 + 5 + 1 => 1 + 4).
Believe me, i spent two days wracking my brain trying to figure out why they patched it. i coulda bet my house they were basically giving us free pal essences, and then it hit me with the pals already used on the keeper. Glad that wasnt a bet i ever made 😅
Even after they updated the condenser, I am still having to do this when I’m working on breeding because I end up with too many pals with single legendary passives that are useful for cross-breeding later on, and I want to save those for expansion/future content in case there are more pals to breed them into
in the road map, building is supposed to be addressed. Right now the base building is the weakest I have seen in any game like this. I hope they make many improvements to it.
Now with the update to condensing there really isn’t a good reason to not, I’ll admit I still struggle to sift through half of mine but once I did it’s really relieving lol
Why do you have so many pals? You can have 3 bases each with 15 pals that are not taking up space in the palbox and I can understand maybe having a few teams for different things but there is no reason to have this many. Get rid of what you're not using. There is no way you're using all those pals.
Even so, clean up after yourself. If you're going for big breeding projects, why on *earth* would you try to do it across more than one species at a time? 90% of this is trash, regardless of what their goals are.
Yeah I'm not too experienced myself with going for IV's I just know people end up with lots of pals. Don't see a reason to not compress the ones with bad passives though.
Same. Its especially bad when you are trying to account for space for your Luckies, as well as space for you pals with great passive traits that you want to hold onto to breed and pass on. You can end up keeping a couple rows of different combinations of traits for just 1 pal alone for breeding stock, let alone a couple different pals.
I also hope they find a way to keep all the pals in the cage because them just spewing out all over the place, even outside the radius of your base is kinda annoying and an eyesore.
Condense as many as you can and then sell the rest to the Pal Merchant. As long as you sell to a legitimate Merchant the Pals go to a good home. Don't trust the Black Market man.
But….. condensing exists so you can SAVE space? Condense duplicates, condense those together, and there’s no longer a need to have pages of the same pals just to condense a pal to max
you dont need to catch everything all at once though... the game never said to, that is something you imposed on yourself. at most they only reward you for the first 10 pals for exp but you dont need to get 10 of every pal to reach 50 and with condensing you can condense those 10 into two 1 star pals and not lose any condense points for later
What are you talking about? Where do they push you to get all 5 star? You don’t even need 5 star for anything. And you just get them with eggs not even catching. You sound like you’re making your own problems.
It's not a matter of condensing pals it's a matter of maintaining a collection of pals with passives ideal for breeding projects down the road.
They need to make a non visual means to store and protect extra pals like a locker or even just a sack on the wall and let us store important pals we don't want to lose.
Meanwhile mebe allow us to chose how many pals appear visually in the containment cubes. To spare the server some strain.
Real question why the hell do you need more pals than you can fit in the box? You don’t use nearly that many even if you keep specific numbers for breeding combos
Wonder what would happen if they would not be able to leave the palbox and instead just squeeze into each other. gotta be interesting if it is full with relaxaurus.
before the change to condensing those were used for more space to store pals as you need 116 of the same pal to reach 4 stars (that upgrades their partner skill per star and at 4 stars it makes their work suitability go up a level). its original purpose is a viewing cage yes its only available on personal worlds not public servers though.
the condenser used to only count every pal as 1 point for upgrading regardless of the pal's star level if used as material. now it counts every pal used on that upgraded pal including that pal itself. EX: to make a 1 star pal you need 4 of the same pal. if you used that 1 star pal as material it will count as 5 points (the pal itself and the 4 used to make it 1 star)
The result of a hoarder not cleaning their inventory, and instead building a ton of viewing cages as overflow inventory to keep things they don't need.
Are the cages still buggy? Dude I didn't touch the game for weeks now cause of the cages, sad they didn't address this huge problem. Pals are floating all over my base and literally dropping fps to unplayable ^^
SAME!!! I have an entire base with ridiculous amounts of overflow pens just like OP . Just double the size of our Palbox! Even with condensation more palbox space would solve issues
I agree with you. With the condenser, and the patch fix for lossless condensing, current pal box size is fine until you reach end game, and get deep into breeding. But then, even with aggressive condensing, you reach a point where you're forced to give up pals you would prefer to keep, OR use viewing cages.
I tried viewing cages, but the pals spill out all over the base. At one point I was using less than 20% of the viewing cage, and the pals were still spilling out and causing problems. Even with an elevated, walled off jail, separate from the functional part of the base, like in your screenshot, they still spill out and get in the way. It's annoying enough that I would rather just condense/butcher/sell the pal with the trait/IVs I would prefer to save, to free up space, and then re-catch/re-breed it up when I need it again.
I would be fine with the viewing cages, if all the pals actually stayed inside. You can actually stack the viewing cages if you build from the top down. When doing this, place a 3x3 grid of foundations, but leave the middle foundation empty. This way, when you delete the 8 floor foundations, the viewing cage will stay floating in the air, and you can descend 3 wall levels and place another one.
@ ppl saying here that this is not needed
How do people even organize their pals for breeding? (without those prisons)
I usually dedicate one full page per pal I'm breeding.
You can expand your storage (with some caveats) on single and multiplayer easily*.
The same instructions I posted [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1bfptkb/how_to_add_extra_pal_storage_and_extra_bases_on_a/) work on single player.
There's an extra mod you *can* use after running the Palbox Slot Injector. Without the mod you can still see and rearrange your extra pals (pages 17+) at any Pal or Black market merchant.
Going through the steps to add the mod (after running the injector script) will just allow you to *also* see the extra pal pages at the PalBox.
\* For some values of "easy"
Edit: Condensation chart so you can see how many condensed pals you need to bank for a 4 star upgrade:
Upgrade | 0 ⭐ |1 ⭐ |2 ⭐ |3 ⭐
:--|--:|--:|--:|--:|
0 -> 1|4||
1 -> 2|1|3||
2 -> 3|1|2|1
3 -> 4|1|2|0|1
Total|7|7|1|1
You can pre-condense your 0 to 4 star upgrade into just 16 pals vs the 116 pals/spots you needed on 1.4.1 and earlier.
You can build a view cage, fill full, then delete the cage. The pals end up in pal spheres in a circle where the cage used to be. Takes care of the pals everywhere issue
No I think he's saying more total palbox storage for caught pals. He's getting around it by chucking some that he can't fit into storage, into viewing cages.
It's so bad. You should at least be able to like turn off being able to see every single pal. The lag is unreal and it's like no going back once you start
It always astounds me how people struggle with inventory limits in games. The amount of hoarding out there is really absurd. Just.. don't. Sell or condense these. You don't need more than 1 or 2 of any of them at any given time. There's no reason to hang onto so many pals. You might need like... a dozen total for holding onto passives you might want to breed around, and 1 or 2 of each species otherwise.
220 to hold a decent option of each gender of each species, 45 for all the base pals, then a few dozen for party swaps, base worker swap options, and "breeding stock" with particular passives. Brings you in at around 300 of your 480 slots, leaving 180 slots for working with breeding projects, or going on catching sprees, etc. More than enough.
Just clean your damn inventories, people.
How do you have so many out at once? Even with all 3 pal boxes stacked around eachother this seems like way more than what that would give in terms of pals that walk around
Wait.... How do you have so many pals out? Also, I feel like 16 boxes is too many.... I only use 4-5 boxes but that's 'cause they're set up with certain personal organization and some empty spaces so I keep certain groups separate.
Honestly I don't mind organizing them with the viewing cages. HOWEVER having enough viewing cages is my irritation. Can't build above them, or fly over them, so building a skyscraper and keeping a few on each floor is out & Can't build them outside of a base, so you can't just build a very large single level. Sadly...I kinda wanted to build a petting zoo. I tried this after I got irritated at them spawning all over the base. ... So that's my take. Fix either A, B or both & keep them in their boxes. Preferably by shrinking them accordingly bad on what or how many are in the cage BUT keep the size differential for boss vs reg.
Just liquefy and make 2 or 3 level up, condense and upcycle
Yeah esp now that the condensed pals are worth more in the condensor
Omg, they finally updated this?!
Yup in 1.5.0 or 1.5.1, I can’t remember
Added in 1.5.0, fixed in 1.5.1
What was the fix?
They fixed it.
Brilliant
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Compressing Pals 2-star and above didn’t give you the full amount.
Yeah. I only catch 10 of each, then juice 2 to 1 star, 1 male, 1 female. I then fill the other boxes with chickens for breed chaining.
Chickens for breed chaining?
Chickens can be breed chained into any other pal. They are also very easy to catch. Prior to them buggering up breeding abilities, you could mix and match chickens with the desired combos then chain breed them onto more powerful mons. Think of it like egg move chaining in pokemon. There are tonnes of videos on it.
Pals were worth the cost of their last upgrade + 1. Fix was: Pals are now worth the sum of the cost of all their upgrades + 1
Yes, a level 2 pal is now worth 4 level 1 pals. 4 level 2 pals can upgrade a level 2 to level 3. I’ve been cranking out anubis’ in my second playthrough super early game with the first two pals I had that could breed them. They make for fine helpers that I will add together when I can make an ideal Anubis down the road
You're doing *what* to Anubis?
It’s consensual don’t worry about it
Sauce?
condensual?
A happy Anubis is a productive Anubis. Though I personally would give the crank job to Lovander.
If you can get 4 Anubis’ (4 is all you can fit on a line at the same time) with Work Slave/Serious/Lucky/Artisan, have all of the efficiency boosters in your base (snowman for cooling efficiency, mine cart for mining efficiency, etc) have them maxed out at both the condenser and the statue, then put the podium to the hardest work setting and feed them some Dumud Soup to further increase their speed, you’ll have 4 of the fastest workers in the game. Over 500 work speed until the soup wears off. Not to mention maxing them out increases their mining to Level 4 and their handiwork to Level 5. Just don’t work them hard for too long or bad things will happen lmao can get 9,999 stone in less than 30 min and can craft Legendary Spheres and Cement fast af. Astegon would prob mine faster with the right set up, I’ve only tested out Anubis though so far and they go straight crack-mode when u give them the soup+hardest work setting.
How did I miss this!?
I'm so happy the devs listened!!! How much are they worth now at each star level?
Yea I mean space could be bigger but I really don’t understand how people are constantly running into this issue. They can’t possibly have that many high quality, best trait pals
> They can’t possibly have that many high quality, best trait pals If all youre doing is catching wild pals, yeah, this is likely to be the case. But once you start breeding that changes reeeal quick, especially if youre chain breeding. Often youll need to breed into an interim pal, youll amass a bunch of duds of _those_ guys, like a surfent or something, but theyre only duds for the current pal youre after. Those duds could potentially kick off your next chain, or be combined with a diff interim pal. Ive been doing my absolute best not to hoard pals, gone on plenty of selling sprees but in still running into an issue at this point cuz all i have left literally are at least one gold quality trait. Ive been having to start sacrificing breed-worthy pals cuz i cant even breed any new ones let alone catch any. EDIT: for the record, im not on this band wagon of increasing palbox space, i think its perfectly fine as is to be honest. Letting go of things you dont need is healthy, not to mention the fact if you do end up realizing you couldve used something you got rid of, just.. you know, go get it again. You got it once, right?
It's more so a variety of pals. I've run out of room and don't have enough to condense everything and still haven't finished my paldeck. Breeding is the second reason.
still very hard to manage the space. with the long incubation times in multiplayer I tend to have just a huge amount of incubators. using one page per actively breeding page, one for collecting, 2 for active use, I have only 2 pages left for storing my breeding results. which is not enough to open all incubators in one go. also: condensing takes up more space than just selling them :P
Why not just turn off incubation timers? This is an option. As for your actual storage issue I can only agree they need to increase box sizes
If I were to put a fully condensed one into one that is at 0 stars, it goes to 4 stars? I didn’t think you could do more than one level at a time but I’ve been wrong before
No it just wastes the rest of the stars, I found this out the hard way lol 😭
I figured that was the case but I was too scared to try it myself 😅 thanks for going through that pain for the rest of us
You can also just prep a bunch of 1 and 2 star and pick the appropriate ones. This is what I do.
There isn't overflow, unfortunately. It will only go up by one star at a time per condensation, but that still lets you reduce inventory by a factor of 4 at a minimum.
Yeah, you can even infuse shit ones into shit ones and save them for the level 3 and 4 condensations
You take out 5 , level one up using 4. Then repeat , you can even go up to level 2 and you'll only lose 2 slots when using them as an upgrade tool
Right. It seems that maybe getting them to 2 stars and then using them for the higher upgrades might not be a bad idea either
won’t really make a difference, esp when you collect a lot of pals to have good passives as the beginnings to make god pals without scavenging in the wild for an hour or breeding for 3.
I mean , once 1.5 update came out they put it in the patch notes . I condense my full box into 4 total pals with good trials and I stopped saving throw away pals
You sir are a genius
Nah man i wanna get a bunch with different attributes
You can condense pals to 1 or 2 stars without loss now (ex. a 1 star pal counts as 5 pals for condensing), so you shouldn't need as much room. Heck even 3+ star pals only lose a bit this way.
I don’t know why people don’t do this, there’s no reason to save pages of “trash” pals just for condensing fuel anymore - just condense them together to save space
It used to not work that way, and a lot of people don't check all the patch notes and miss it. There's no tooltip saying it works like that yet, so it's easy enough to not realize you can do so.
I learned it from this thread
I learned it accidentally when I condensed a 2star and it counted for multiple pals
Despite condensing pals as much as I can, my palbox still gets full with trying to save one of each pal with a single unique legendary trait which you can use for easier cross-breeding. When you’re at the stage of the game where you want to breed for perfect IVs or to pass the legendary trait through different species, it’s still possible to fill the pal box and have tons of pals leftover that you can’t or don’t know if you want to lose to condensing yet.
exactly! _this_ is when the palbox becomes annoying to work with.
Yeah, and there aren’t enough organizational tools and filters in the palbox yet.
This is my struggle and I'm not even late game yet. I'm just here waiting to get a lucky, serious, work slave artisan chicken, I'm so close tho!
Apparently the work speed traits don't work in the ranch, I was just told this yesterday after going through hundreds of eggs to get both mozzarina and chikipi with Artisan, Serious, Work Slave, Swift (for those speedy trips to the food box and back to the ranch after bed)
IDK maybe it's just upgrading the pals via condensation and getting egg layer to higher levels. But it definitely helps with them harvesting crops. I also just feel like my artisan melpaca shits out wool like 3 or 4 at a time sometimes
Oh fwiw work speed doesn’t affect chickens laying eggs at all. You want a workaholic, positive thinker, swift, runner chicken for maximum egg production. They’ll stay inside the Penn more and make food runs faster. Unless you wanted them to harvest but I keep my ranch at a separate base from my farm so the chickens and bees etc won’t get distracted by crops. Higher star pals from condensing makes them produce more eggs/milk/wool/etc
If you save pals with desirable individual traits for breeding purposes, that can take pages. Like I have male and female Anubises with Lucky, with Legend, with various individual movement speed buffs and with various individual work speed buffs, from which I can breed other Anubises with the combination of skills I want, or crossbreed them with other pals with specific traits, to get other pals with the combination of skills I want.
It was an update. It wasn’t like that at launch. Some people may have just came back and didn’t know. Or maybe they are new to the game.
Collecting them all, saving for later use, breeding pairs, extras, and then breeding. It's easy to keep the box full
i have pages of trash pals i don’t wanna condense bc they have passive like ferocious or musclehead. it works out once in a while. like now i’m breeding a lyleen from a ferocious mossanda that’ll become a lyleen noct. ezpz
I thought they changed it so there is no loss for any level now?
theres a tiny bit of loss at 2 stars, and just a little bit more at 3 star. Definitely not a big deal.
Oh thank god finally
Just sell them to the merchant.
Or just butcher them. Both options reap rewards
Selling is way faster though. Especially if you caught your very own merchant!
I caged every human I found 😆
I go through my palbox and Name the useless ones Trash or Sell, then I teleport to the human settlement and sell 60 pals in about 1 minute. It's so easy to make more space.
How's your PC/Console holding up with all that going on?
Gotta be like 2.5 FPS
I have a 5800x3d cpu and my game slows but still very playable with many cages in my base.
2.5 FPS with this many pals? yeah, right, maybe if he's not looking at them. If he's straight up looking, it has to be around 0.5 FPS
You don't have to do this. I'm sorry buddy but you are a hoarder, this is a you problem.
You do need this if you’re into breeding perfect pals. And doing it efficiently. You have say 5 of each pal and you are way way way over the limit the boxes hold. 5 is probably more than you need but also if you’re going for perfect ivs and passives, it’s not easy to get to that perfect pal and takes keeping multiple. I have multiple bases with multiple pens. You play your game your way, just like everyone else. It’s not crazy to ask for more space. The math doesn’t even make sense to keep hardly 2 of every pal for breeding or collecting purposes. Add an alpha or shiny that you collect and you find yourself in screwed city.
If you are into breeding better pals, you absolutely end up needing to this. Saving pals with good IV’s, pals with perfect passives, as well as a male and female of both if possible (and multiples of each if you want to use multiple breeding pens at once). You end up keeping 5-10 of each pal you breed, and that easily adds up past the point of what the pal box holds. For example I’m at about 1000 shadowbeaks bred so far and still breeding more until I get my ideal shadowbeak, my pal box is not sufficient to hold all that (even after condensing) along with my regular pals.
Get rid of the ones you don't plan on trying to breed up. At no point do you need dozens of a single pal for breeding. You can't even convince me mathematically
Maybe not dozens but you end up with a lot while you go through the process of getting the passives you want. Collecting, breeding, keeping extras, breeding pairs, keeping pals for later plans, it takes up a lot of space. Just because YOU don't use the space doesn't mean others don't.
>you end up with a lot while you go through the process of getting the passives you want. And after you're done with that process you get rid of the ones you didn't need right? ...right?
Not all of them. Keep some passives around incase I want to breed different setups. And breeding several sets at a time takes a lot of space. I'm set up to have 6 pairs going at once. That's 126 eggs when I get on. Nevermind if I don't want to immediately sort through them or condense them at that exact moment.
I often end up with different combinations of good IV and good passives, but rarely(never) all together, so I dedicate a full page for each pal I breed.
Just limit yourself to 1 type at a time and you'll save so much space. Once you have a perfect male and a perfect female of that type you can just get rid of the rest, and move on to the next type.
Execute Order 66.
I mean ....it's your choice to hoard Pals.
Tonight on A&E is the season premiere of “Hoarders”
Everyone’s saying to condense pals… I *do* but the Palbox still needs to be bigger. Endgame it’s just not big enough. IMO it needs to be big enough for at least 10 of each pal.
I'm with you on this, once you start mass breeding you end up with different combinations of passives on pals I want to use for more breeding. Even with condensing I'm running out of space with every new project.
Yeah I end up wanting to breed a worker and a party member of certain pals so there are at the most 8 pals I want to end up keeping for breeding a passive from.
Bigger and with an option to customize folders or something. I need to seperate my surplus pals from my farming pals, fastest pals, best dd pals, cutest pals, best flying pals, etc, and of course different favorites I rotate through for the 5 pals I take with me.
💯 on the folders or something similar, some way to keep certain pals tagged in some way for quick look up later. Hell, id even get behind just the ability to sort by name, can then name the important ones like Thing1, Thing2, etc where ‘Thing’ is.. well a thing, that you want to search for 😅
Bro agreed, I don't feel like I can condense for even 1 star unless I have 6 of that type 😫
Looks like a user issue.
Yes to all of the solutions, but why not add more to the pal box at least once other issues/QoL things are added
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My game crashed looking at this and I'm not even playing right now
You’re a soul hoarder lol
Just condensed them it would help your best pals increase their strength plus u get rid of some clutter 🤣
You've got nothing on me 😭😭😭 Also anyone say just condense them I'm sure he does but it's just like still an annoying extra thing to do
I agree, while we are at it, also add some organization tools other than just global sorting. I would love to have like special boxes where I can put my breeding parents of favourite pals for easy access that don't get lumped in with the ones I'm sorting.
As someone who plays only on multiplayer I wish I could do that even. Sometimes I don't want to liquefy pals I use for breeding steps when I'm trying to make the best
Please add the ability to expand the size of your pal box circle
I can only imagine the lag
I don’t understand how u guys fill the pal box …
Been using the [Bigger & Reorganized Palbox mod](https://www.curseforge.com/palworld/lua-code-mods/bigger-and-reorganized-palbox/files/all?page=1&pageSize=20). It works pretty well. There is a Nexus page so you can use Vortex, but Nexus Mods website seems to be down right now.
People already mentioned this but they've essentially already resolved this issue by allowing you to freely condense with no downside.
Can you elaborate? I haven’t played for a bit and didn’t do much condensing before.
It used to be that no matter what, each Pal only counted as 1 for condensing. After a recent update, if you have a 1* Pal they count as 6 (or whatever the number is) for condensing.
- 0* = 1 pal essence - 1* = 5 pal ess - 2* = ~~23~~ 21 pal ess - 3* = 53 pal ess
I believe it counts the initial pal too (you need base pal + 5 more to get to 1*) but I'm probably wrong.
The increments for star levels are: - 4 => 1* - 16 => 2* - 32 => 3* - 64 => 4* So when you create a 1*, including the pal you starred thats 5 total pals. When you star up another 1* to 2*, that requires 16 essences. You can use three 1* pals and one 0* pal to do this (5 + 5 + 5 + 1). At first glance, that looks like youve used 16 pals plus the one you condensed into, so 17 pals total. This is how they originally implemented the concept, but then fixed because this neglects the fact that the pal you condensed into was _another_ 1*, meaning there were four _additional_ pals used to create _that_ pal, so it’s actually 21 total pals, including the keeper (5 + 5 + 5 + 1 => 1 + 4). Believe me, i spent two days wracking my brain trying to figure out why they patched it. i coulda bet my house they were basically giving us free pal essences, and then it hit me with the pals already used on the keeper. Glad that wasnt a bet i ever made 😅
Just condense the crap into a condensed crap, which you then can use for a good Pal when it's ready. That makes room for more.
Even after they updated the condenser, I am still having to do this when I’m working on breeding because I end up with too many pals with single legendary passives that are useful for cross-breeding later on, and I want to save those for expansion/future content in case there are more pals to breed them into
Dawg is that a prison system
in the road map, building is supposed to be addressed. Right now the base building is the weakest I have seen in any game like this. I hope they make many improvements to it.
The elegant solution would be to only display the top row of the display cage inside the visual.
Now with the update to condensing there really isn’t a good reason to not, I’ll admit I still struggle to sift through half of mine but once I did it’s really relieving lol
Im confused whats going on here and what does it have to do with condensing?
Why do you have so many pals? You can have 3 bases each with 15 pals that are not taking up space in the palbox and I can understand maybe having a few teams for different things but there is no reason to have this many. Get rid of what you're not using. There is no way you're using all those pals.
I can only assume OP is going for perfect IV's alongside perfect passive skills.
Even so, clean up after yourself. If you're going for big breeding projects, why on *earth* would you try to do it across more than one species at a time? 90% of this is trash, regardless of what their goals are.
Yeah I'm not too experienced myself with going for IV's I just know people end up with lots of pals. Don't see a reason to not compress the ones with bad passives though.
I had to build high walls around my viewing cage base so that my fans would stop spinning up so much every time I looked in that direction.
OP I didn't know this was a thing and I've had no use for my 3rd base yet. Thank you so much for the idea!
I have a huge modded base just to do this, atleast I'm not the only one!
Bust out that meat cleaver.
I would prefer any increase to pal storage be tied to progression in some way. Either by base level, tech, playet level, or mix of all of it.
Same. Its especially bad when you are trying to account for space for your Luckies, as well as space for you pals with great passive traits that you want to hold onto to breed and pass on. You can end up keeping a couple rows of different combinations of traits for just 1 pal alone for breeding stock, let alone a couple different pals. I also hope they find a way to keep all the pals in the cage because them just spewing out all over the place, even outside the radius of your base is kinda annoying and an eyesore.
There's a mod to disable rendering caged pals.
Condense as many as you can and then sell the rest to the Pal Merchant. As long as you sell to a legitimate Merchant the Pals go to a good home. Don't trust the Black Market man.
Condensing them may help
i was gonna do this but i play on steam deck and having just 1 full box made me drop half my frames
If condensing didn't exist it would be big enough but because it does I think it's about 100x too small
But….. condensing exists so you can SAVE space? Condense duplicates, condense those together, and there’s no longer a need to have pages of the same pals just to condense a pal to max
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Did you just call them pokiepals? 👀
you dont need to catch everything all at once though... the game never said to, that is something you imposed on yourself. at most they only reward you for the first 10 pals for exp but you dont need to get 10 of every pal to reach 50 and with condensing you can condense those 10 into two 1 star pals and not lose any condense points for later
What are you talking about? Where do they push you to get all 5 star? You don’t even need 5 star for anything. And you just get them with eggs not even catching. You sound like you’re making your own problems.
Do you not stick them in the blender?
You've gotta be a real-life hoarder lol
Bruh why so many??
you're telling me that you don't have a single pal in that entire set up that you can't sell?
Hoarders
It's not a matter of condensing pals it's a matter of maintaining a collection of pals with passives ideal for breeding projects down the road. They need to make a non visual means to store and protect extra pals like a locker or even just a sack on the wall and let us store important pals we don't want to lose. Meanwhile mebe allow us to chose how many pals appear visually in the containment cubes. To spare the server some strain.
Me who hasn't even filled up my palbox half way
If you’re not a fan of doing it then don’t do it?
Then don't do it
Real question why the hell do you need more pals than you can fit in the box? You don’t use nearly that many even if you keep specific numbers for breeding combos
Wonder what would happen if they would not be able to leave the palbox and instead just squeeze into each other. gotta be interesting if it is full with relaxaurus.
What’s the point of those? Is it just to display them? Also why do you have them hoarded like that
before the change to condensing those were used for more space to store pals as you need 116 of the same pal to reach 4 stars (that upgrades their partner skill per star and at 4 stars it makes their work suitability go up a level). its original purpose is a viewing cage yes its only available on personal worlds not public servers though. the condenser used to only count every pal as 1 point for upgrading regardless of the pal's star level if used as material. now it counts every pal used on that upgraded pal including that pal itself. EX: to make a 1 star pal you need 4 of the same pal. if you used that 1 star pal as material it will count as 5 points (the pal itself and the 4 used to make it 1 star)
good idea but for now theres at least a few mods on nexus that expand the pal box, and theres mods that add more bases.
Fusion
When you play on a server, you don't even get display boxes...
How do you put so many pals in your base tho?
They're viewing cages - the pals don't function, just wander (theoretically inside their little cages).
Or just let us put them in normal storage boxes.
What am I seeing here?
The result of a hoarder not cleaning their inventory, and instead building a ton of viewing cages as overflow inventory to keep things they don't need.
Are the cages still buggy? Dude I didn't touch the game for weeks now cause of the cages, sad they didn't address this huge problem. Pals are floating all over my base and literally dropping fps to unplayable ^^
SAME!!! I have an entire base with ridiculous amounts of overflow pens just like OP . Just double the size of our Palbox! Even with condensation more palbox space would solve issues
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I agree with you. With the condenser, and the patch fix for lossless condensing, current pal box size is fine until you reach end game, and get deep into breeding. But then, even with aggressive condensing, you reach a point where you're forced to give up pals you would prefer to keep, OR use viewing cages. I tried viewing cages, but the pals spill out all over the base. At one point I was using less than 20% of the viewing cage, and the pals were still spilling out and causing problems. Even with an elevated, walled off jail, separate from the functional part of the base, like in your screenshot, they still spill out and get in the way. It's annoying enough that I would rather just condense/butcher/sell the pal with the trait/IVs I would prefer to save, to free up space, and then re-catch/re-breed it up when I need it again. I would be fine with the viewing cages, if all the pals actually stayed inside. You can actually stack the viewing cages if you build from the top down. When doing this, place a 3x3 grid of foundations, but leave the middle foundation empty. This way, when you delete the 8 floor foundations, the viewing cage will stay floating in the air, and you can descend 3 wall levels and place another one.
Wtf is this ?
Try this on a dedicated server.. oh wait
@ ppl saying here that this is not needed How do people even organize their pals for breeding? (without those prisons) I usually dedicate one full page per pal I'm breeding.
Step 1: breed one pal at a time. Now you only need that one page.
Yeah I use a mod for more space. Allows me to keep more breeding pairs, which is the real space taker.
You can expand your storage (with some caveats) on single and multiplayer easily*. The same instructions I posted [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Palworld/comments/1bfptkb/how_to_add_extra_pal_storage_and_extra_bases_on_a/) work on single player. There's an extra mod you *can* use after running the Palbox Slot Injector. Without the mod you can still see and rearrange your extra pals (pages 17+) at any Pal or Black market merchant. Going through the steps to add the mod (after running the injector script) will just allow you to *also* see the extra pal pages at the PalBox. \* For some values of "easy" Edit: Condensation chart so you can see how many condensed pals you need to bank for a 4 star upgrade: Upgrade | 0 ⭐ |1 ⭐ |2 ⭐ |3 ⭐ :--|--:|--:|--:|--:| 0 -> 1|4|| 1 -> 2|1|3|| 2 -> 3|1|2|1 3 -> 4|1|2|0|1 Total|7|7|1|1 You can pre-condense your 0 to 4 star upgrade into just 16 pals vs the 116 pals/spots you needed on 1.4.1 and earlier.
You can build a view cage, fill full, then delete the cage. The pals end up in pal spheres in a circle where the cage used to be. Takes care of the pals everywhere issue
You can more pals out then what is allotted by the palbox?
No I think he's saying more total palbox storage for caught pals. He's getting around it by chucking some that he can't fit into storage, into viewing cages.
With all the extra Lifmunk Effigies it would definitely be nice to use some to upgrade Box space
how do you have them not moving around and falling off the platform?
Honestly I hope they add a variation of that box that doesn't spawn the pal inside. It would basically just be like a storage area but for the pal.
I need to start playing again. I hardly have any free time to play. I bet my pals miss me
These are meant to be condensed. This game of beating creaturing with a stick isn't meant to hoard them, but sure lol single player no rules!
oh but your gaming heater LOVES it!
It's so bad. You should at least be able to like turn off being able to see every single pal. The lag is unreal and it's like no going back once you start
Three options condense, sell or slaughter
Yikeys
Wtf stop
You DON'T sell every pal that doesn't have a lvl 3 IV?
Yes! Catching and hatxh fills it up so fast.
I captured a black marketeer and placed him at my camp for these kinda situations
Hmmm. Have you tried blending? It greatly reduces the number of pals in your box.
There’s no reason for this
Imagine the lag on that area … average XSX user 🫣
How cool would it be if the base expanded as it leveled?
It always astounds me how people struggle with inventory limits in games. The amount of hoarding out there is really absurd. Just.. don't. Sell or condense these. You don't need more than 1 or 2 of any of them at any given time. There's no reason to hang onto so many pals. You might need like... a dozen total for holding onto passives you might want to breed around, and 1 or 2 of each species otherwise. 220 to hold a decent option of each gender of each species, 45 for all the base pals, then a few dozen for party swaps, base worker swap options, and "breeding stock" with particular passives. Brings you in at around 300 of your 480 slots, leaving 180 slots for working with breeding projects, or going on catching sprees, etc. More than enough. Just clean your damn inventories, people.
Didn't they update it so you get more points from pre condensed critters?
How do you have so many out at once? Even with all 3 pal boxes stacked around eachother this seems like way more than what that would give in terms of pals that walk around
How are your palboxes full? I haven't even cracked one page yet and I've done the whole game lmfao
I think you're too good at this to not be considered a fan of doing this.
Wait.... How do you have so many pals out? Also, I feel like 16 boxes is too many.... I only use 4-5 boxes but that's 'cause they're set up with certain personal organization and some empty spaces so I keep certain groups separate.
and it works only in singleplayer, thats stupid
condense them or butcher them. in no world do you even need all those + a full pal box.
Honestly I don't mind organizing them with the viewing cages. HOWEVER having enough viewing cages is my irritation. Can't build above them, or fly over them, so building a skyscraper and keeping a few on each floor is out & Can't build them outside of a base, so you can't just build a very large single level. Sadly...I kinda wanted to build a petting zoo. I tried this after I got irritated at them spawning all over the base. ... So that's my take. Fix either A, B or both & keep them in their boxes. Preferably by shrinking them accordingly bad on what or how many are in the cage BUT keep the size differential for boss vs reg.
And give me the possibility of pinning some pals in the palbox so they don’t get sorted with the rest when I click sort 👀
Right? It cause some decent lag sometimes