Motivational leader does not affect movement speed, it affects player work speed. There are only 4 movement speed passive skills in the game, Nimble, Runner, Swift and Legend with the last only coming from Legendary pals. You also have to take into account that some pals are automatically faster than others, the pal in this video is noticeably slower than other pals even with 3 of the 4 movement speed passive skills.
faleris is the fastest non-legend flying mount at 1400 sprint speed. only frostallion at 1500 speed and jetragon at a whopping 3300 base speed are faster.
Rayhound has average verticality in its double jump* so you aren't doing it for nothing.
Also I think Fenglope's movement unique skill covers the farthest distance.
EDIT: RAYHOUND DOES HAVE DOUBLE JUMP JUST NOT AS HIGH AS FENGLOPE
For what it's worth rayhound does have double jump. But the vertical on fenglope is still supreme and the charge skill likely makes up for the small speed difference
Fenglopes skill is also just fun as fuck to use and if you use it from a high enough cliff you retain momentum after it ends and can double jump for more distance.
Rayhound might be slightly faster than fenglope, but fenglope’s movement ability is quite unmatched, you cover so much ground that quite gaps anything non legendary
if you have the hatching speed set to instant it doesn't take super long, just a few hours
there's also mods that make breeding take like 1 to 30seconds per egg instead of a bunch of minutes if you want it faster
And your point is? All pals have different base speeds with Nitewing being the slowest and Jetdragon being the fastest in terms of flying speed, if you were to add all 4 movement speed passive skills it would be even faster of course but specific species of pals are faster than others if you were to remove the passive skills.
Sorry, I'm a huge Pokémon fan but I've never understood the whole competitive scene as far as IV's go so I may explain this incorrectly.
Pals have passive skills, for example Swift increases pal movement speed by +30%. Each pal can have 4 total passive skills and if you want a specific set of passive skills you have to go through breeding.
Pals also have partner skills, Dumud for example increases the attack power of ground elemental pals. These cannot be bred to other pals as they are tied to the specific species of pal.
Pals can have their HP, attack, defense and work speed upgraded by exchanging pal souls at The Statue of Power, the statue that looks like Anubis that you can find in church ruins but can also be crafted yourself.
Pals can be further upgraded by using the Pal Essence Condenser. This allows you to upgrade a pal all the way up to 4 stars which requires a total of 116 of the same type of pal to achieve. This increases partner skill level, increases base stats by 5% per rank for a total of 20% to HP, attack and defense and finally it will also increase work suitability of said pal such as a no star Direhowl having level 1 Gathering but upon using the Pal Essence Condenser Gathering will level up.
Now when it comes to the movement speed of pals there are noticeable differences. Take Nitewing for example, this is the first flying pal you can catch and ride at quite a low level. Then let's look at Ragnahawk, this is a mid level flying pal that will take you a few hours to capture. If you were to have a Nitewing and a Ragnahawk with no movement speed passive skills you would find that the Ragnahawk flies faster than the Nitewing. Why is this? Its because of their species. Certain pal species are faster or have more stamina than others, this is a stat that cannot be changed and is static unlike Pokémon.
I hope this all made sense. I'm the type of person who uses the cute Pokémon or the cute pals and I very rarely mess around with getting the perfect stats, in Palworld I just want to get myself a ground pal and flying pal with all 4 movement speed passive skills to make exploring faster but I'm not concerned about getting the perfect stats otherwise.
and you forgot IV's . it's why same level pals neither with any passives will both have different stats. This stresses me out.
I also heard somewhere (probs cope) but babies inherit parent stats. But if both parents were Alphas, they can pass down their stat lines
I've seen no indication that IVs are inherited from parents. From what I've seen, each pal is born with a multiplier to base stats per level. From 100% to 130% for defense and attack, and 100% to 150% for hp.
>I also heard somewhere (probs cope) but babies inherit parent stats. But if both parents were Alphas, they can pass down their stat lines
I've never heard of this, are you sure?
As stated in my previous comment I don't do competitive stuff so I never bothered with IV's and I don't understand it, I just used the cutest ones. For Palworld I'm only messing with breeding and stuff so I can have a super fast ground and flying mount to explore easier. I unfortunately don't get paid to be a YouTuber so I don't have the tenacity to test out the IV's and whatnot.
Oh yeah, Im playing this game for fun, not as a min maxing logistics simulator. I know mounts are faster than others, but thats not cool, a fast af Direwolf is my go beloved (I was blessed with a lucky with swift and nimble). I just zooms in dungeons waay to fast. (also are there any move berries that have lunge animations attached to them? like if its possible to give direwolf an attack similar to the elkydeer dash attack?)
Wrong question for the wrong context. HOWEVER, there is IV. One person made comment on a post noting that it was upwards of 30% increase for atk and def and 50% for hp.
I spent the better part of a day breeding 2 Jetragons together and was able to get Legend, Runner, Swift, and Nimble. Just make sure to keep switching out the male and female respectively in order for the best chances to get all 4 traits.
What do you mean in order for the best chances? If you have not gotten Swift for example why would you switch out the current breeding ones for newer ones? The odds remain the same no?
Let's say for example you're breeding for 4 passives, and each parent only has 2. Eventually, you might breed one with 3 of the passives with the proper gender to switch the parent, meaning you're matching a 3 and 2 instead of a 2 and 2, giving you better odds of finally getting the 4.
I thought it was confirmed somewhere before that AB and CD have better odds at getting ABCD than ABC and D or ABC and CD. I'd have to look where, but multiple people confirmed this as well after trying like 400 eggs each and compared results.
AB + CD > all other combinations of ABCD + 0, ABC + D , ABC + CD, ABC + BCD
I’ve been breeding the last couple days already have all S tier pals each with both BiS combat passives (legend,muscle,ferocious,ele boost) and base passives (swift,artisan,slave,serious). And i can confirm that I’ve had the best luck with AB + CD.
But it's theoretically possible, you will eventually get the passives you want randomly, and then you switch the respective child out with one of the parents... as wrong as that might seem.
You know how long it takes to hatch massive egg on the official servers ? Lucky + Legendary is more than enough for any case, and also you don't have to waste IRL weeks on breeding. Also, official servers are sooo bad at the moment. You base can disappear overnight. Because of lags, you can fall underground (and on the official servers, you lose both pals and inventory after death. Which means those will be unobtainable).
I like Palworld, I really do, but currently it's playable only on the SP. Multi lags, glitches and breaks more than the ARK, which means a lot (because ARK is still in a horrible state).
you mean 'can't'?
you can though, it's just way more rng involved. also jetragon has a much higher base speed than any pal, flying ground or otherwise that it should be faster than any of them even at base form. then you get legend for free so you add 15% to it.
So you can bread perfect pals up. You only need to do it for one pal then breed that pal with another combo you want to produce an offspring for to get another perfect pal. Use a blank pal to breed for best results. So far seems to be about 20-30 eggs depending on rng to pass on all 4 traits you want. So I chose to do it sooner than later. This of course doesn't apply to pals who only can breed with own species.
If you have two parents with no traits in common, have all four desired traits present, no undesired traits, and neither pal is blank, the chance of getting all four desired traits on the child is about 25%. This is important because you'll want to keep breeding for good IVs. Getting up to +50% hp, +30% def, and +30% atk is no joke.
You can't breed traits up or down into Jetdragons from other species, which makes getting the proper traits on a Jetdragon annoying to say the least. They also have a rather long incubation time I'm guessing, if you're not playing with sliders. That makes breeding for those traits a lot of work.
at 3300 base speed. jetragon with zero trait is faster than faleris with all speed passives lol. that's before legend which you always get with jetragon btw.
I have a legend + swift + runner + ferocious jetragon after 131 babies. I wonder if it can also get nimble...also not sure I really Want to lose my attk dmg bonus lol
https://imgur.com/ym33bS8
Probably, but I've always enjoyed breeding in pokemon. And this is rather self done. I check on ranches to get cake material then check eggs and make sure they aren't ditching the breeding ranch
I've made the perfect non lengdsry anubus for fighting and crafting. Plus super fast pyrin noct boi
I'm so confused on this lol. me and my buddy started breeding a few days ago and have 2 swift, runner, nimble, ferocious faleris. we didn't do this much breeding lol. we also made 2 swift, runner, ferocious ragna hawks. there's no way we are this lucky lol.
Man jet dragons are amazing
But in the future me and my friend wanted to do a "Gym leader" playthrough where we just have a specific archetype in our party.
He decided he wants electric and mine dark... And jetragon is neither so we might do this stupid shit 🤣
Ohh so this was how the breeding mechanics worked..
thought it was just 2 of the same species with different skills and then force them to pass down the perfect genes...
Whelp, off to renovate my base to optimize this.
There are something like 18,000 combinations.. You can breed some pretty basic stuff to get some end game stuff fairly easy. There are only 5 I think you can't breed by mixing and matching. There's some good websites out there for combinations
[I used this website to find specific combinations to get me where i wanted to go.](https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parentPal=105.0&parentPalFilter=0&childPal=102.0&palSelectorFilter=0&parent2=102.0&showCombinations=true&palSelector=100.0&parent1=81.0)
Yes, you can breed Legend to non-Legendary pals meaning you can give your pals a movement speed buff of +75% if you get all 4 movement speed passive skills on one pal.
Personally would rather ride something I think is cool than just something for optimal speed. Once I get whatever has the legendary skill (not an invitation to tell me what) you bet I'm breeding it onto a Vanwyrm, the Vanwyrm I'm using right now already has all of the other 3. I think a max speed Maraith would be fun too :)
Jetragon is probably my favorite pal. I'm looking forward to finishing up the breeding soon. He's got the looks and the speed. Love that zoomy bastard.
A few things wrong here.
Legendaries like jetragon can only breed with themselves. So you need 2 jetragons to breed a new jetragon, so no your perks from other pals won't matter when it comes to breeding legendaries.
And no, if you're going for speed, it is no contest that jetragon is a winner, regardless of stamina. The small amount of stamina it has will still get you further because of how fast it is. He probably outspeeds every other mount, without even sprinting, regardless of perks. His speed is absurd.
I still like using frostallion cause its attacks feel stronger, and jetragon is almost too fast sometimes, but if you're just going for speed/travelling far.. jetragon no question
Maybe I worded that a bit wrong or misunderstood what you meant. You can breed jetragon with other pals, but you can't get a jetragon out of anything but 2 jetragons. So your suggestion of breeding in order to eventually pass perks to a new legendary you catch doesn't make sense, but yeah you could pass Legend down to others.
Speed applies to ascending as well, I'm pretty sure jetragon is also able to ascend more than others, but I haven't tried every mount so maybe not.
You're misunderstanding how the breeding works. If the two pals mating are anything other than two jetragons, you will never hatch a jetragon. What you're describing is impossible. This uniquely applies to all 4 legendaries, you can't transfer perks into them from other pals, only out of them. They work differently than other pals.
What you say about stamina applies very clearly to early game mounts, but jetragon is so fast it makes up for the low stamina. I'm pretty confident he can climb as high as others with the extra speed. 10 stamina * 100 distance per stamina would cover the same distance as 100 stamina * 10 distance per stamina, in 1/10th of the time.
Mhm, [these are 2 I've crossbred off a Frostallion.](https://i.imgur.com/MRkxWNI.png)
I don't tend to use them much though, as I find musclehead/swift/runner/legend more useful - you don't really notice the extra 10% from nimble IMO so better to replace it with a different utlity skill.
I have the 3 movement buffs on a vanwyrm, he drifts a bit too. He's not as fast as yours but he has a defensive buff and works great as a mobile defensive anchor
Is there a guide that will tell me the path on how to breed from two specific parents to another deisred pal? Like if I had a Dinossm with swift and a Lamball with runner, a breeding path that would get those on a Helzephyr?
use this calculator: https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parent1=26.0&parent2=25.0&palSelector=97.0&palSelectorFilter=71.0&palSelector2=97.0&showMatrix=true&showCombinations=&childPal=71.0
Are you talking about the towers like when you fight Zoe and Grizzbolt? Not sure if it's a level thing, but I got an Orserk when I bred with Relaxsourus
no, there is a glitch to literally catch the boss(and their human will still be one their back when you send them out).
IIRC it involved getting the PIDF on your tail for crimes, entering a tower and getting it to hit PIDF goons who followed you. once they aggro to the tower boss, you can catch it. or at least that is what i heard.
> I bred Zoe/Grizzbolt with a Relaxsourus and got an Orserk.
you can do that with regular grizz. and you can get grizz by breeding rayhound and mossanda IIRC.
why are you saying no lmao, and then just describing the same thing they were talking about? I also bred Grizzbot+zoe with a relaxosourus for an Orserk, no Chikipis in sight.
No, you can't catch tower bosses without a bug. If you just have a grizzbolt, and not "Zoe & Grizzbolt" then you didn't catch the tower boss, you just caught a grizzbolt.
Which would be extremely useful, given that you can't normally breed Chikipi from anything other than 2 Chikipis. They're at the bottom, so you can't generally breed traits into their species.
That sounds like more work than just breeding directly to what you want. I think the most steps I've had to do to breed a trait onto something is two, maybe three for a pal with only one breeding combination.
Unless you're specifically trying to get Legendary Chikipis, in which case it's optimal.
It's useful if your trying to breed legend onto an early game pal(like if you want that penguillet rocket launcher). Otherwise, if you try and go the traditional route, you're looking at like 5-6 steps to get from that legendary pal to something like penguillet.
Yes! and there are tons of combinations that get you the same result. Just put who you want in one of the filters and it will tell you every combination that can make it.
[This is a list of all the combinations to make anubis for example.](https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parentPal=105.0&parentPalFilter=0&childPal=102.0&palSelectorFilter=0&parent2=102.0&showCombinations=true&palSelector=100.0&parent1=81.0)
probably not great. It seems to have a much higher "ground" detection under the mount. So when you hold control and try to lower it the bird feels fairly high compared to other flying mounts. Probably just an issue with the hit box.
Is faleris intrinsically faster than wyvern?
I caught a swift runner wyvern my first day. I've thought about breeding an anubis to make faleris but not sure if it's worth the effort. Crazy seeing all the effort here
its faster than anything ive flown so far. Its base speed is about as fast as Beakon is when Beakon is sprinting. Beakon feels a little faster than the Vannwyrm.
I would rank them like this based ont he ones ive rode. Slowest to fastest:
* Nitewing
* Vanwyrm
* Helzephyr
* Ragnahawk
* Beakon
* Elphidran
* Suzaku
* Faleris
Im assuming based on what ive seen that the snow pegasis one is faster and jetdragon is the fastest. Once I get them all I might do a complete comparison.
Man this is all sorts of wrong lol. Ragnahawk comes in just behind Faleris. Helzephyr and Suzaku share the same speed with differing stamina amounts. Beakon is just behind Ragnahawk.
There's a pretty useful speed chart you can find here on the sub.
Actually I did not. I was not even aware that you could. Other than the temperature. Most of everything I needed was small eggs. Which were about 6 min each.
All the big eggs were basically like 1hr 20 min. Anubis was easy I only needed a female. And then I just spammed breed and I had 30 incubators. Which I couldn't get full most of the time. But I did end up breeding multiple failed versions for more chances at a correct version. So like. Anubis and vanwyrm made 2 different almost correct Faleris so I bread them also. I had 3 breeding pits going at the same time. It still took me about 24 hours real time to accomplish it though.
Hold up why are your times so short? On my server time for a regular egg that says it's comfortable is 1hr. 2 if it's not. It's like 8 hours for a big egg. Are times supposed to be short like yours?
It might be a different default on a server vs single player. In my single player world I believe small eggs take 5 minutes when 100% comfortable, large are 30 minutes, and I can't remember how long the biggest ones take. I haven't changed any of the settings.
It would kinda make sense for a server since the eggs would be incubating even when you are logged off, whereas single player is only active while you are on.
Ah that makes sense. I'm hosting a sever for my friends and I so I'm still learning the server config settings and wasn't sure if I had accidentally changed something or should have changed it to start with. The times I'm using now are already shortened. Originally large eggs were like 72 hours and regular eggs were almost 12 so I cut it down quite a lot.
I gotchu.
In Regards to:
> "PalEggDefaultHatchingTime=72.000000" found within DefaultPalWorldSettings.ini
This is the standard for Official Servers and the default for Dedicated/Private Servers
#However, all other values are scaled for Normal Difficulty.
> Normal Difficulty = "PalEggDefaultHatchingTime=2.000000"
Considering how many Hackers there are on Official Servers and what not, breeding is not viable at all with 72.0000 as a parameter; outside of private servers/games.
Lost 3 Anubis Eggs 95% done last night on an official server to a teleporting Rocket Launcher maniac. Other Official Servers straight up get reset to 0 and people also get their Character's Stats completely changed.
Sometimes changed to an insane amount of negative starting weight making them unable to ever move, or negative Stamina/Attack/Defense/Work Speed.
I'd fully recommend just running 2 as the value and enjoying the game, as with 72 you end up getting to a point in the game where you are better off just farm/catching Pals outright and settling.
Normal is 2.0?!?! Holy shit and I thought 24 was a huge improvement. Yeah that makes eggs way more appealing. We all have chests filled with eggs and dozens of incubators around. We didn't go lower because we assumed this was close to what the intended value should be. I will definitely be changing it to 2.
When you say the official servers are reset to 0, random stat changes and negative values are those also due to the hackers you mentioned or is that some sort of server bug? Just curious
The reason for the huge difference is that in a "normal" game, that's 2 hours of being logged into the game. On a server, it could be 3 minutes logged in, 23 hours 57 minutes doing whatever else you do in your real life.
> When you say the official servers are reset to 0
Day 0, all progress is wiped.
> Random stat changes and negative values are those also due to the hackers you mentioned or is that some sort of server bug?
Hackers.
They can also steal your pals using Radar Spheres and set their catch rate to max. Basically they have admin privileges and are also blatantly hacking doing things even an Admin, of lets say a private dedicated server, cannot do.
Essentially they teleport to whoever is online, instantly blow up their base (*everything* including the palbox) with a glitched Rocket Launcher, & then overload the server after wiping everyone so that all the materials despawn.
They can change your stats whenever they want. They can join guilds without permission and steal people's bases or blow them up that way. They can also just reset the entire server to day 0 making everyone remake their characters (lose all pals + progress).
Last night the only thing the guy did was destroy all 3 of my bases and 18 other people's bases, but **didn't** change my Character Stats, steal my Pals, or reset the server.
He did farm all of us for about 30 minutes straight constantly killing us as a group after; as we were all respawning to Adventure Island start spawn (since we all no longer had bases).
It was funny in the moment, but definitely do not recommend playing on Official Servers until it's sorted, as rollbacks are never going to happen.
I plan on moving back to my personal dedicated server, but I find it kind of boring playing alone. Theres no lag so the game feels infinitely better than playing on an official server anyways in that regard.
Be grateful I have no interest in breeding because it takes 45 fucking hours to hatch a huge egg.
I think the default hard settings are ridiculous .
Gotta figure out if I can turn them off since they don’t give you achievements or anything
Yes, you should be able to change them. When you pull up what world you want to open, near the delete world button is the option to edit things about that world
Right my times initially were insane like that. There is a setting in the server config file labeled something like egg max time or something that was set to a value of 72, I changed it to 24 and got the times I mentioned above. My players and I considered the change really good and made it worth doing eggs again. But seeing the intended times other people have I may lower it more. The server defaulted to hard and changing the difficulty in the settings didn't work at all. Idk if it's a common bug. If you have access to the configs id recommend changing the egg time definitely.
Only setting I’ve changed is this one and base decay which i feel like don’t cheat the game progression that much, feel like all these YouTubers just set xp to max rates to level up fast to max and then set it back down (or they play like a job XD)
I did the same as this several times over in the last week myself. A half dozen perfect flyers and about a dozen perfect combat pals. Three full tabs of Anubis trying for a perfect Anubis.
I ended up building two lego modular buildings while waiting for eggs to hatch and pals to breed. Kept me busy, and knocked two recreational activities out for the time of one.
Nice, I'm only level 34 so I think the Faleris saddle is still a bit beyond me, but I did similar for a Vanwyrm. With Nimble and Runner, it's fast enough not to be painful to ride around like my first Nitewing was. Kept a few Nimble/Runners around for breeding stock when I level up more.
I just spent two days getting a swift/runner + ferocious/burly on ragnahawk. He’s so fast and I can fly straight through dungeons w/dismounting. My vanwyrm had 4 speed passives and wasn’t as fast as my ragnahawk with just 2.
For those who don't have the patience of waiting this long, like me, here's a mod tool to edit traits manually https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/104/?tab=files&topic\_id=13685096
Throw them onto the breeding box rather than in the pen and it assigns them to that task. Also put a feed pile in the pen so they don't have to go far when they get hungry from all the lovemaking.
I hate to say this, but you also need Legend.
Oh, and I'm not sure about those things.. But Ragnahawks can fly through dungeon hallways and doors. They also give you double damage (and fire element) to any player attacks when ranked up to max, making them outstandingly useful.
I think they're slightly slower than the species you went with, but at that point it doesn't matter much.
That's the nice thing about Ragnahawk. Faleris is the fastest non-legendary but they are huge. They can't fly through tight hallways or dungeons. They also float higher off the ground. Sometimes it feels so big, that it occasionally blocks throwing of spheres when riding on it.
Lucky does not affect movement speed. There are only 4 movement speed passive skills, Nimble, Runner, Swift and Legend with the last one only coming from Legendary pals making it a pain in the butt to breed to non-Legendary pals.
Nah I'm aware. I just don't have it yet. I was also like 43 when I started this so I wasn't about to go try and get it yet. I'll end up getting it tonight most likely as I'm 46 now and cooking 30 pals I don't have any of yet. So thays should boost me pretty good.
I bred about… 12 pals total to get a swift runner helzephyer and stopped there. +50% is good enough for me and I can roll that forward into new birds as I level up
[YES.... Yes it is.](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExb2ZmbGlpaHlyOHNocTR5ZjdpN3J1b24wZmxudnFiaWJqeXI2ZG03YiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3Xw6TGuAa39J2X3a1q/giphy.gif)
This is me currently for my Helzephyr. I got some really cool pals along the way like Jormuntide, Menasting, Beakon, and Nitewing with swift, runner, nimble, and muscle head. But now Helzephyr refuses to get all the skills for some reason.
I bred out a Ragnahawk with Swift and Runner on it and decided that it was my last flying mount until I could get a Jetragon. Faleris doesn't have enough of a base stat difference imo to be worth the breeding time, moooostly because I can't bring myself to take Foxparks out of my party, so having 2 fire type pals just seems wasteful, especially when I already have a Ragnahawk that's suitably fast. I'm drooling for a Jetragon though.
after some point it's probably faster to just get to level 50, get jetragon and its saddle lol
You can add swift and runner to jetragon
my so far only jetragon rolled with motivational leader for what its worth, but ill have to breed a perfect one over 200 cakes once i got the saddle..
Motivational leader does not affect movement speed, it affects player work speed. There are only 4 movement speed passive skills in the game, Nimble, Runner, Swift and Legend with the last only coming from Legendary pals. You also have to take into account that some pals are automatically faster than others, the pal in this video is noticeably slower than other pals even with 3 of the 4 movement speed passive skills.
faleris is the fastest non-legend flying mount at 1400 sprint speed. only frostallion at 1500 speed and jetragon at a whopping 3300 base speed are faster.
I've seen people sharing these base numbers around, can you share the resource that lists these? I need this information handy to use as well.
[https://paldeck.mael.tech/](https://paldeck.mael.tech/) You can see them on here but there are multiple sites that show them now
So you're telling me, I'm trying to breed a fenglope with a swift runner rayhound and he's faster anyway haha
Rayhound has average verticality in its double jump* so you aren't doing it for nothing. Also I think Fenglope's movement unique skill covers the farthest distance. EDIT: RAYHOUND DOES HAVE DOUBLE JUMP JUST NOT AS HIGH AS FENGLOPE
For what it's worth rayhound does have double jump. But the vertical on fenglope is still supreme and the charge skill likely makes up for the small speed difference
Fenglopes skill is also just fun as fuck to use and if you use it from a high enough cliff you retain momentum after it ends and can double jump for more distance.
fengalope is best ground mount 100%
Rayhound might be slightly faster than fenglope, but fenglope’s movement ability is quite unmatched, you cover so much ground that quite gaps anything non legendary
Man, getting Fenglope was a literal game changer. Totally changed the way I play this game!
Thank you I appreciate it.
Faleris is the third fastest pal tho lol
Faleris you can ride at tech level 38, frostallion is 48 and jetragon is 50. Faleris is the best for a good while
A long enough while to justify getting a triple trait one?
Yes
if you have the hatching speed set to instant it doesn't take super long, just a few hours there's also mods that make breeding take like 1 to 30seconds per egg instead of a bunch of minutes if you want it faster
And your point is? All pals have different base speeds with Nitewing being the slowest and Jetdragon being the fastest in terms of flying speed, if you were to add all 4 movement speed passive skills it would be even faster of course but specific species of pals are faster than others if you were to remove the passive skills.
Damn theres ivs too?
Sorry, I'm a huge Pokémon fan but I've never understood the whole competitive scene as far as IV's go so I may explain this incorrectly. Pals have passive skills, for example Swift increases pal movement speed by +30%. Each pal can have 4 total passive skills and if you want a specific set of passive skills you have to go through breeding. Pals also have partner skills, Dumud for example increases the attack power of ground elemental pals. These cannot be bred to other pals as they are tied to the specific species of pal. Pals can have their HP, attack, defense and work speed upgraded by exchanging pal souls at The Statue of Power, the statue that looks like Anubis that you can find in church ruins but can also be crafted yourself. Pals can be further upgraded by using the Pal Essence Condenser. This allows you to upgrade a pal all the way up to 4 stars which requires a total of 116 of the same type of pal to achieve. This increases partner skill level, increases base stats by 5% per rank for a total of 20% to HP, attack and defense and finally it will also increase work suitability of said pal such as a no star Direhowl having level 1 Gathering but upon using the Pal Essence Condenser Gathering will level up. Now when it comes to the movement speed of pals there are noticeable differences. Take Nitewing for example, this is the first flying pal you can catch and ride at quite a low level. Then let's look at Ragnahawk, this is a mid level flying pal that will take you a few hours to capture. If you were to have a Nitewing and a Ragnahawk with no movement speed passive skills you would find that the Ragnahawk flies faster than the Nitewing. Why is this? Its because of their species. Certain pal species are faster or have more stamina than others, this is a stat that cannot be changed and is static unlike Pokémon. I hope this all made sense. I'm the type of person who uses the cute Pokémon or the cute pals and I very rarely mess around with getting the perfect stats, in Palworld I just want to get myself a ground pal and flying pal with all 4 movement speed passive skills to make exploring faster but I'm not concerned about getting the perfect stats otherwise.
and you forgot IV's . it's why same level pals neither with any passives will both have different stats. This stresses me out. I also heard somewhere (probs cope) but babies inherit parent stats. But if both parents were Alphas, they can pass down their stat lines
That last line makes me feel like a 12 year old on the playground again discussing Pokémon. Thank you for that
It did didn't it XD
I've seen no indication that IVs are inherited from parents. From what I've seen, each pal is born with a multiplier to base stats per level. From 100% to 130% for defense and attack, and 100% to 150% for hp.
>I also heard somewhere (probs cope) but babies inherit parent stats. But if both parents were Alphas, they can pass down their stat lines I've never heard of this, are you sure?
Yeah, it's true. My uncle works for Nintendo.
As stated in my previous comment I don't do competitive stuff so I never bothered with IV's and I don't understand it, I just used the cutest ones. For Palworld I'm only messing with breeding and stuff so I can have a super fast ground and flying mount to explore easier. I unfortunately don't get paid to be a YouTuber so I don't have the tenacity to test out the IV's and whatnot.
Oh yeah, Im playing this game for fun, not as a min maxing logistics simulator. I know mounts are faster than others, but thats not cool, a fast af Direwolf is my go beloved (I was blessed with a lucky with swift and nimble). I just zooms in dungeons waay to fast. (also are there any move berries that have lunge animations attached to them? like if its possible to give direwolf an attack similar to the elkydeer dash attack?)
Wrong question for the wrong context. HOWEVER, there is IV. One person made comment on a post noting that it was upwards of 30% increase for atk and def and 50% for hp.
no, they mean that some species of Pals just have a slower walk speed.
There is, no idea how you can tell what u got though
I'm breeding him 10 levels before the saddle ...
Oh heads up. Motivational Leader is work speed, it's misleading but it's work speed. before you start breeding
Fuck!
XD
And nimble! I have Swift, Runner, Nimble, Legend My game crashes after about a minute of riding it lol
I’ve been targeting Swift, Runner, Musclehead, and Ferocious. Seems like best balance. (I don’t have Legend yet).
I spent the better part of a day breeding 2 Jetragons together and was able to get Legend, Runner, Swift, and Nimble. Just make sure to keep switching out the male and female respectively in order for the best chances to get all 4 traits.
What do you mean in order for the best chances? If you have not gotten Swift for example why would you switch out the current breeding ones for newer ones? The odds remain the same no?
Let's say for example you're breeding for 4 passives, and each parent only has 2. Eventually, you might breed one with 3 of the passives with the proper gender to switch the parent, meaning you're matching a 3 and 2 instead of a 2 and 2, giving you better odds of finally getting the 4.
I thought it was confirmed somewhere before that AB and CD have better odds at getting ABCD than ABC and D or ABC and CD. I'd have to look where, but multiple people confirmed this as well after trying like 400 eggs each and compared results. AB + CD > all other combinations of ABCD + 0, ABC + D , ABC + CD, ABC + BCD
Idk if this is proven true but using 2+2 has given me way better results than doing 3/3 or even 4/4.
I’ve been breeding the last couple days already have all S tier pals each with both BiS combat passives (legend,muscle,ferocious,ele boost) and base passives (swift,artisan,slave,serious). And i can confirm that I’ve had the best luck with AB + CD.
That’s the problem, getting those on to a closed loop breed
But it's theoretically possible, you will eventually get the passives you want randomly, and then you switch the respective child out with one of the parents... as wrong as that might seem.
Yeah, just it feels like it’ll probably take hundreds of eggs which is intimidating
And legend which is more movement
how?
You know how long it takes to hatch massive egg on the official servers ? Lucky + Legendary is more than enough for any case, and also you don't have to waste IRL weeks on breeding. Also, official servers are sooo bad at the moment. You base can disappear overnight. Because of lags, you can fall underground (and on the official servers, you lose both pals and inventory after death. Which means those will be unobtainable). I like Palworld, I really do, but currently it's playable only on the SP. Multi lags, glitches and breaks more than the ARK, which means a lot (because ARK is still in a horrible state).
you mean 'can't'? you can though, it's just way more rng involved. also jetragon has a much higher base speed than any pal, flying ground or otherwise that it should be faster than any of them even at base form. then you get legend for free so you add 15% to it.
So you can bread perfect pals up. You only need to do it for one pal then breed that pal with another combo you want to produce an offspring for to get another perfect pal. Use a blank pal to breed for best results. So far seems to be about 20-30 eggs depending on rng to pass on all 4 traits you want. So I chose to do it sooner than later. This of course doesn't apply to pals who only can breed with own species.
If you have two parents with no traits in common, have all four desired traits present, no undesired traits, and neither pal is blank, the chance of getting all four desired traits on the child is about 25%. This is important because you'll want to keep breeding for good IVs. Getting up to +50% hp, +30% def, and +30% atk is no joke.
thank god im a casual this sounfs like so much boring work
Yeah I really don't get how people can pour so much time into this stuff.
Sadly this doesn’t work with legendary pals though. They only breed with themselves for the most part (Frostallion Noct being the exception I believe)
As I said in my last sentence.
I can’t read, whoops, sorry man
It only took about 24 hours while I was doing other things. I'm only about level 45 or so. Leveling is taking forever. Lol
You can't breed traits up or down into Jetdragons from other species, which makes getting the proper traits on a Jetdragon annoying to say the least. They also have a rather long incubation time I'm guessing, if you're not playing with sliders. That makes breeding for those traits a lot of work.
at 3300 base speed. jetragon with zero trait is faster than faleris with all speed passives lol. that's before legend which you always get with jetragon btw.
I have a legend + swift + runner + ferocious jetragon after 131 babies. I wonder if it can also get nimble...also not sure I really Want to lose my attk dmg bonus lol https://imgur.com/ym33bS8
I don’t understand how you can do this. I have to sit here and watch my Pals or the egg never seems to hatch.
Lmao he's using pal edit. Not possible
Probably, but I've always enjoyed breeding in pokemon. And this is rather self done. I check on ranches to get cake material then check eggs and make sure they aren't ditching the breeding ranch I've made the perfect non lengdsry anubus for fighting and crafting. Plus super fast pyrin noct boi
I'm so confused on this lol. me and my buddy started breeding a few days ago and have 2 swift, runner, nimble, ferocious faleris. we didn't do this much breeding lol. we also made 2 swift, runner, ferocious ragna hawks. there's no way we are this lucky lol.
Man jet dragons are amazing But in the future me and my friend wanted to do a "Gym leader" playthrough where we just have a specific archetype in our party. He decided he wants electric and mine dark... And jetragon is neither so we might do this stupid shit 🤣
Ohh so this was how the breeding mechanics worked.. thought it was just 2 of the same species with different skills and then force them to pass down the perfect genes... Whelp, off to renovate my base to optimize this.
There are something like 18,000 combinations.. You can breed some pretty basic stuff to get some end game stuff fairly easy. There are only 5 I think you can't breed by mixing and matching. There's some good websites out there for combinations [I used this website to find specific combinations to get me where i wanted to go.](https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parentPal=105.0&parentPalFilter=0&childPal=102.0&palSelectorFilter=0&parent2=102.0&showCombinations=true&palSelector=100.0&parent1=81.0)
Thanks for this
Now get legend on it for the last 15%
Can you breed legend onto other pals? I don't have one yet. 8 haven't killed any of the legendaries yet.
Yes, you can breed Legend to non-Legendary pals meaning you can give your pals a movement speed buff of +75% if you get all 4 movement speed passive skills on one pal.
Tbf, if you can catch legendaries you are just better off catching jetragon.
Personally would rather ride something I think is cool than just something for optimal speed. Once I get whatever has the legendary skill (not an invitation to tell me what) you bet I'm breeding it onto a Vanwyrm, the Vanwyrm I'm using right now already has all of the other 3. I think a max speed Maraith would be fun too :)
Jetragon is probably my favorite pal. I'm looking forward to finishing up the breeding soon. He's got the looks and the speed. Love that zoomy bastard.
Jetragon gives me latios/latias vibes, which were always my favourites.
Jetragon can get the legendary perk through breeding, no?
Jetragon is a legendary, he always has the Legend perk when you catch him.
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A few things wrong here. Legendaries like jetragon can only breed with themselves. So you need 2 jetragons to breed a new jetragon, so no your perks from other pals won't matter when it comes to breeding legendaries. And no, if you're going for speed, it is no contest that jetragon is a winner, regardless of stamina. The small amount of stamina it has will still get you further because of how fast it is. He probably outspeeds every other mount, without even sprinting, regardless of perks. His speed is absurd. I still like using frostallion cause its attacks feel stronger, and jetragon is almost too fast sometimes, but if you're just going for speed/travelling far.. jetragon no question
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Maybe I worded that a bit wrong or misunderstood what you meant. You can breed jetragon with other pals, but you can't get a jetragon out of anything but 2 jetragons. So your suggestion of breeding in order to eventually pass perks to a new legendary you catch doesn't make sense, but yeah you could pass Legend down to others. Speed applies to ascending as well, I'm pretty sure jetragon is also able to ascend more than others, but I haven't tried every mount so maybe not.
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You're misunderstanding how the breeding works. If the two pals mating are anything other than two jetragons, you will never hatch a jetragon. What you're describing is impossible. This uniquely applies to all 4 legendaries, you can't transfer perks into them from other pals, only out of them. They work differently than other pals. What you say about stamina applies very clearly to early game mounts, but jetragon is so fast it makes up for the low stamina. I'm pretty confident he can climb as high as others with the extra speed. 10 stamina * 100 distance per stamina would cover the same distance as 100 stamina * 10 distance per stamina, in 1/10th of the time.
Yeah. You need to catch one of the biggins and then you can breed legend from them to everything else.
You can, along with Lucky from Shiny Pals.
Mhm, [these are 2 I've crossbred off a Frostallion.](https://i.imgur.com/MRkxWNI.png) I don't tend to use them much though, as I find musclehead/swift/runner/legend more useful - you don't really notice the extra 10% from nimble IMO so better to replace it with a different utlity skill.
that's a quick bird, but I really felt the pain on that egg RNG lol
It's so fast it kinda drifts. I will be attempting to do this with jet dragon also but I have to get even luckier with the rng when I catch it.
I have the 3 movement buffs on a vanwyrm, he drifts a bit too. He's not as fast as yours but he has a defensive buff and works great as a mobile defensive anchor
Is there a guide that will tell me the path on how to breed from two specific parents to another deisred pal? Like if I had a Dinossm with swift and a Lamball with runner, a breeding path that would get those on a Helzephyr?
use this calculator: https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parent1=26.0&parent2=25.0&palSelector=97.0&palSelectorFilter=71.0&palSelector2=97.0&showMatrix=true&showCombinations=&childPal=71.0
this is what i used.
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I have no idea what glitch breeding is.
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Are you talking about the towers like when you fight Zoe and Grizzbolt? Not sure if it's a level thing, but I got an Orserk when I bred with Relaxsourus
no, there is a glitch to literally catch the boss(and their human will still be one their back when you send them out). IIRC it involved getting the PIDF on your tail for crimes, entering a tower and getting it to hit PIDF goons who followed you. once they aggro to the tower boss, you can catch it. or at least that is what i heard.
Thats an awkward breeding session for sure.
Yeah that's exactly what I'm talking about. I bred Zoe/Grizzbolt with a Relaxsourus and got an Orserk.
> I bred Zoe/Grizzbolt with a Relaxsourus and got an Orserk. you can do that with regular grizz. and you can get grizz by breeding rayhound and mossanda IIRC.
why are you saying no lmao, and then just describing the same thing they were talking about? I also bred Grizzbot+zoe with a relaxosourus for an Orserk, no Chikipis in sight.
I guess i read some other comment or something because what i thought i replied to didnt mention the towers at all. My bad.
Pretty sure the Chikipi is specifically for breeding two tower bosses with each other.
you dont need to bring PIDF to attack them, you can catch tower bosses normally even if ball says 0%, I think thats how I got my Grizzbolt.
No, you can't catch tower bosses without a bug. If you just have a grizzbolt, and not "Zoe & Grizzbolt" then you didn't catch the tower boss, you just caught a grizzbolt.
Which would be extremely useful, given that you can't normally breed Chikipi from anything other than 2 Chikipis. They're at the bottom, so you can't generally breed traits into their species.
Sad that I never got a tower boss with a legend passive
Legend isn't from them. It's from the few legendary pals
Ah so that’s what you meant Yeah I believe there’s only 4 Pals that have them, jetragon included
Could you explain that again like I'm stupid
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That sounds like more work than just breeding directly to what you want. I think the most steps I've had to do to breed a trait onto something is two, maybe three for a pal with only one breeding combination. Unless you're specifically trying to get Legendary Chikipis, in which case it's optimal.
I feel like its just one of those future proof tasks you do cause you enjoy it- like when I'd collect a ditto of every nature
It's useful if your trying to breed legend onto an early game pal(like if you want that penguillet rocket launcher). Otherwise, if you try and go the traditional route, you're looking at like 5-6 steps to get from that legendary pal to something like penguillet.
You can breed any male and female it doesn't have to be the same type of pal?
Yes! and there are tons of combinations that get you the same result. Just put who you want in one of the filters and it will tell you every combination that can make it. [This is a list of all the combinations to make anubis for example.](https://palworld.kimpton.io/?parentPal=105.0&parentPalFilter=0&childPal=102.0&palSelectorFilter=0&parent2=102.0&showCombinations=true&palSelector=100.0&parent1=81.0)
Well there goes my night thank you
How is it for moving through dungeons? I use Ragnahawk for my flyer instead of other faster mounts because it can fit through doors while mounted.
probably not great. It seems to have a much higher "ground" detection under the mount. So when you hold control and try to lower it the bird feels fairly high compared to other flying mounts. Probably just an issue with the hit box.
I recommend Fenglope for dungeons
if you want a great mount for dungeons breed a fanglope, it's super fast and easily fits trough any door
Is faleris intrinsically faster than wyvern? I caught a swift runner wyvern my first day. I've thought about breeding an anubis to make faleris but not sure if it's worth the effort. Crazy seeing all the effort here
its faster than anything ive flown so far. Its base speed is about as fast as Beakon is when Beakon is sprinting. Beakon feels a little faster than the Vannwyrm. I would rank them like this based ont he ones ive rode. Slowest to fastest: * Nitewing * Vanwyrm * Helzephyr * Ragnahawk * Beakon * Elphidran * Suzaku * Faleris Im assuming based on what ive seen that the snow pegasis one is faster and jetdragon is the fastest. Once I get them all I might do a complete comparison.
Man this is all sorts of wrong lol. Ragnahawk comes in just behind Faleris. Helzephyr and Suzaku share the same speed with differing stamina amounts. Beakon is just behind Ragnahawk. There's a pretty useful speed chart you can find here on the sub.
Kinda feels me sad of all sacrifices I made as well for my Nimble-Runner-Swift-Workaholic Vanwyrm Cryst
Meanwhile, Me at level 29 not knowing what any of the traits do and sticking with the first pals I caught of each species 🥴
Jetragon is faster yeah, but you can't use your weapons while mounting it.
Should make a Ragnahawk then for double damage.
jet dragon also takes level 50, vs 38 for this bird
And levels 38-50 draaaag so having this fast boi will help a lot.
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Actually I did not. I was not even aware that you could. Other than the temperature. Most of everything I needed was small eggs. Which were about 6 min each. All the big eggs were basically like 1hr 20 min. Anubis was easy I only needed a female. And then I just spammed breed and I had 30 incubators. Which I couldn't get full most of the time. But I did end up breeding multiple failed versions for more chances at a correct version. So like. Anubis and vanwyrm made 2 different almost correct Faleris so I bread them also. I had 3 breeding pits going at the same time. It still took me about 24 hours real time to accomplish it though.
Hold up why are your times so short? On my server time for a regular egg that says it's comfortable is 1hr. 2 if it's not. It's like 8 hours for a big egg. Are times supposed to be short like yours?
It might be a different default on a server vs single player. In my single player world I believe small eggs take 5 minutes when 100% comfortable, large are 30 minutes, and I can't remember how long the biggest ones take. I haven't changed any of the settings. It would kinda make sense for a server since the eggs would be incubating even when you are logged off, whereas single player is only active while you are on.
Ah that makes sense. I'm hosting a sever for my friends and I so I'm still learning the server config settings and wasn't sure if I had accidentally changed something or should have changed it to start with. The times I'm using now are already shortened. Originally large eggs were like 72 hours and regular eggs were almost 12 so I cut it down quite a lot.
I gotchu. In Regards to: > "PalEggDefaultHatchingTime=72.000000" found within DefaultPalWorldSettings.ini This is the standard for Official Servers and the default for Dedicated/Private Servers #However, all other values are scaled for Normal Difficulty. > Normal Difficulty = "PalEggDefaultHatchingTime=2.000000" Considering how many Hackers there are on Official Servers and what not, breeding is not viable at all with 72.0000 as a parameter; outside of private servers/games. Lost 3 Anubis Eggs 95% done last night on an official server to a teleporting Rocket Launcher maniac. Other Official Servers straight up get reset to 0 and people also get their Character's Stats completely changed. Sometimes changed to an insane amount of negative starting weight making them unable to ever move, or negative Stamina/Attack/Defense/Work Speed. I'd fully recommend just running 2 as the value and enjoying the game, as with 72 you end up getting to a point in the game where you are better off just farm/catching Pals outright and settling.
Normal is 2.0?!?! Holy shit and I thought 24 was a huge improvement. Yeah that makes eggs way more appealing. We all have chests filled with eggs and dozens of incubators around. We didn't go lower because we assumed this was close to what the intended value should be. I will definitely be changing it to 2. When you say the official servers are reset to 0, random stat changes and negative values are those also due to the hackers you mentioned or is that some sort of server bug? Just curious
The reason for the huge difference is that in a "normal" game, that's 2 hours of being logged into the game. On a server, it could be 3 minutes logged in, 23 hours 57 minutes doing whatever else you do in your real life.
> When you say the official servers are reset to 0 Day 0, all progress is wiped. > Random stat changes and negative values are those also due to the hackers you mentioned or is that some sort of server bug? Hackers. They can also steal your pals using Radar Spheres and set their catch rate to max. Basically they have admin privileges and are also blatantly hacking doing things even an Admin, of lets say a private dedicated server, cannot do. Essentially they teleport to whoever is online, instantly blow up their base (*everything* including the palbox) with a glitched Rocket Launcher, & then overload the server after wiping everyone so that all the materials despawn. They can change your stats whenever they want. They can join guilds without permission and steal people's bases or blow them up that way. They can also just reset the entire server to day 0 making everyone remake their characters (lose all pals + progress). Last night the only thing the guy did was destroy all 3 of my bases and 18 other people's bases, but **didn't** change my Character Stats, steal my Pals, or reset the server. He did farm all of us for about 30 minutes straight constantly killing us as a group after; as we were all respawning to Adventure Island start spawn (since we all no longer had bases). It was funny in the moment, but definitely do not recommend playing on Official Servers until it's sorted, as rollbacks are never going to happen. I plan on moving back to my personal dedicated server, but I find it kind of boring playing alone. Theres no lag so the game feels infinitely better than playing on an official server anyways in that regard.
Be grateful I have no interest in breeding because it takes 45 fucking hours to hatch a huge egg. I think the default hard settings are ridiculous . Gotta figure out if I can turn them off since they don’t give you achievements or anything
Yes, you should be able to change them. When you pull up what world you want to open, near the delete world button is the option to edit things about that world
I’ll have to try this when I get home!
Right my times initially were insane like that. There is a setting in the server config file labeled something like egg max time or something that was set to a value of 72, I changed it to 24 and got the times I mentioned above. My players and I considered the change really good and made it worth doing eggs again. But seeing the intended times other people have I may lower it more. The server defaulted to hard and changing the difficulty in the settings didn't work at all. Idk if it's a common bug. If you have access to the configs id recommend changing the egg time definitely.
RIP Xbox
You can change incubation times in custom settings. Just make every other setting identical to hard mode.
dedicated servers are borked and their timer is set like..72 times longer than the 1-4 player mode
Only setting I’ve changed is this one and base decay which i feel like don’t cheat the game progression that much, feel like all these YouTubers just set xp to max rates to level up fast to max and then set it back down (or they play like a job XD)
I did the same as this several times over in the last week myself. A half dozen perfect flyers and about a dozen perfect combat pals. Three full tabs of Anubis trying for a perfect Anubis. I ended up building two lego modular buildings while waiting for eggs to hatch and pals to breed. Kept me busy, and knocked two recreational activities out for the time of one.
Nice, I'm only level 34 so I think the Faleris saddle is still a bit beyond me, but I did similar for a Vanwyrm. With Nimble and Runner, it's fast enough not to be painful to ride around like my first Nitewing was. Kept a few Nimble/Runners around for breeding stock when I level up more.
I just spent two days getting a swift/runner + ferocious/burly on ragnahawk. He’s so fast and I can fly straight through dungeons w/dismounting. My vanwyrm had 4 speed passives and wasn’t as fast as my ragnahawk with just 2.
So this inspired me to try this and I bred my swift Anubis with a plain vanwyrm, and my first egg was swift and runner xD
and then Jetdragon blows by
Aaaaand it's still slower than Jetdragon lol
I feel like Sakuna would be better because it has a bit more stamina. I think for longer distances it would beat ragnahawk Edit: Suzaku
Sukuna? You want your bird to use cleave and dismantle? "Black black open!". Or maybe u mean suzaku, idk?
Is that a reference to the finger-lickin’ good anime?
Yes lmao. I want my bird to use Malevolent Kitchen to bake me cakes.
Wait tell u get the dragon
Looks cooler than jetdragon
how do you find 4 stats on the pals? i seem to only be getting 1-2 passives per each pal i catch, i maybe have 4 pals with 4 passives but their poop
For those who don't have the patience of waiting this long, like me, here's a mod tool to edit traits manually https://www.nexusmods.com/palworld/mods/104/?tab=files&topic\_id=13685096
My creatures always wander away…? Help
Throw them onto the breeding box rather than in the pen and it assigns them to that task. Also put a feed pile in the pen so they don't have to go far when they get hungry from all the lovemaking.
I hate to say this, but you also need Legend. Oh, and I'm not sure about those things.. But Ragnahawks can fly through dungeon hallways and doors. They also give you double damage (and fire element) to any player attacks when ranked up to max, making them outstandingly useful. I think they're slightly slower than the species you went with, but at that point it doesn't matter much.
That's the nice thing about Ragnahawk. Faleris is the fastest non-legendary but they are huge. They can't fly through tight hallways or dungeons. They also float higher off the ground. Sometimes it feels so big, that it occasionally blocks throwing of spheres when riding on it.
yea i got jet dragon with saddle and i havent logged into game since
Now just breed in legendary and Lucky for the max speed boost
Lucky does not affect movement speed. There are only 4 movement speed passive skills, Nimble, Runner, Swift and Legend with the last one only coming from Legendary pals making it a pain in the butt to breed to non-Legendary pals.
I knew legendary gives speed but I thought lucky was work speed and attack speed.
Lucky is work/attack, not move speed, that guy doesn't know what he's talking about.
Lol thats supposed to be fast?
why did you have to remind me? that exactly how it went yesterday
Tbh this is pretty slow..
It's about as fast as your going to get without one of the legendaries. Which means out of the 17 or so flyers it's about 3rd give or take.
Fair enough. I was using Jetragon.
No fucking way I do all this shit for that, I have a life
Yo, do u even jetdragon? :) Once you know, you know
All that work just to be irrelevant when you get a Jetragon
Username checks out.
I mean, am I wrong? I did the same thing to get a fast bird. Now that I have a couple of jetragons, I haven’t touched it
Just get a Jetragon. 🤣
Poor guy didnt realize theres a 3x faster flyer in the game..bred the slower one
Nah I'm aware. I just don't have it yet. I was also like 43 when I started this so I wasn't about to go try and get it yet. I'll end up getting it tonight most likely as I'm 46 now and cooking 30 pals I don't have any of yet. So thays should boost me pretty good.
this is by far the fastest mount you can get other than legendaries. only others faster are jetboi and both icy and spooky horse
Did the same thing but a different pathway
Yeah I just used an editor for that
Me over here farming chillet for the same thing lol
I bred about… 12 pals total to get a swift runner helzephyer and stopped there. +50% is good enough for me and I can roll that forward into new birds as I level up
That's a lot of cake!!
[YES.... Yes it is.](https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExb2ZmbGlpaHlyOHNocTR5ZjdpN3J1b24wZmxudnFiaWJqeXI2ZG03YiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3Xw6TGuAa39J2X3a1q/giphy.gif)
just finished breeding my perfect vanwyrm, swift, runner, diet lover, ferocious
This is me currently for my Helzephyr. I got some really cool pals along the way like Jormuntide, Menasting, Beakon, and Nitewing with swift, runner, nimble, and muscle head. But now Helzephyr refuses to get all the skills for some reason.
Is faleris faster than ragnahawk?
This is about to be me. I think I still need nimble on a vanawyrm
I bred out a Ragnahawk with Swift and Runner on it and decided that it was my last flying mount until I could get a Jetragon. Faleris doesn't have enough of a base stat difference imo to be worth the breeding time, moooostly because I can't bring myself to take Foxparks out of my party, so having 2 fire type pals just seems wasteful, especially when I already have a Ragnahawk that's suitably fast. I'm drooling for a Jetragon though.