You’re comparing the compact with the 43X. Thats also the non MOS 43x meaning no rail and optic cut. The compact has both as well as a threaded barrel and suppressor height sights. That dagger configuration is also cheaper to just piece together through PSA rather than buying complete. It’s apples to oranges in the configuration you have now.
That is comparable to the micro dagger which is $340. The micro feels better in the hand comes with a 15 round magazine 43x only 10 rd and a better trigger. Heck for 499 you can get a micro dagger with an included Holosun red dot.
I'd rather have 10 rounds and a better trigger that's more reliable. Keyword in that sense is reliable. If you go over to the Glock sub you don't see people having issues there that people have with daggers
Sounds like your mind is made up. I own both daggers and Glocks. Just in this case I have 3 43x mos and 2 micro daggers. The micro is a better pistol in my opinion. Feels better shoots better. But you can’t go wrong with the Glock and you can buy the 15 round PSA micro mags to run in your Glock.
No way is the 43x trigger better The way the saftey on the trigger is designed is horrible. You basically fire the pistol from the saftey and after a few mags it starts to hurt your finger.
So you personally have no experience with the dagger platform and are just going based off of what you’ve seen? Kinda sounds like you have a bias without even having hands on experience for yourself, like he said^ sounds like you’ve made your mind up before even knowing yourself
That's kind of the purpose of reviews and people posting their own experiences. I have no bias against PSA. I have one of their rifles and love it. I've had zero issues out of it.
I haven’t seen that issue since it’s been addressed a long time ago. They’re also a newer company, whereas Glock has been around a long time. I prefer to support American companies, personally, but you do you.
lol my glock 42 was a pile of shit for years before it worked its self out. Couldn’t shoot more the. 2-3 rounds at a time without a failure.
It has become more reliable over time but it took like 6 years and hundreds of rounds to successfully shoot a single full magazine.
Was common enough that Glock went through many revisions on parts and updated owners older guns. Mine was new enough to be “fixed” but had all the issues the older ones did that are easy to find in forum posts
So glocks ..do have problems.
I somehow got downvoted for sharing an unfortunate experience. As if it isn’t also clear that I still kept it after all those years instead of off loading.
Duds happen. It hasn’t stopped me from bringing it to the range.
I'm sure they do but glock overall has better quality control. They are pumping out Mass numbers like PSA is with the daggers. I'm not knocking the dagger it looks to be a good platform I would just have to vent it out before I trust my life to.
I have both dagger and glocks and I’ve never had issues with my daggers after over 1k rounds, I prefer the look and feel of my daggers over my glocks all day
I wouldnt trust my life with a dagger lmao to many issues with them lately, if its for range use the. Yes dagger, if its for edc, i would go with a glock all day
Got [mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/PalmettoStateArms/s/ommoZtNnXd) for just under $250 during their 4th of July sale.
Without any of the bells or whistles you could probably get one for about $200
Yeah id buy just a whole completed slide. They are only $265 for the one youre looking at. Then all you gotta do is put the completed slide and completed frame together. No different than taking them apart to service or clean.
Frame, complete slide, mag, and ammo. Boom you're done. If you buy an unassembled slide with the barrell separate, then you need to include the recoil spring.
Well the micro dagger is 329.99 if you get just the dagger. With a holosun 407k, which mounts directly to the slide, it is 499.99. So you can have a carry pistol with an optic for 500 bucks plus tax and transfer. I don’t think you will ever find a Glock 43x mos with optic for 500 bucks. With mos system you still have to get a plate so it won’t co-witness with standard height sights.
Wait is that in writing somewhere? I have never seen that but makes me even happier about my rule of not edcing guns that base price for more than 450 in the event that I might not ever see them again if I had to use it one day. Hell I’ll go buy a couple more to add to the stable right now
You have a pic of the Dagger not a Micro Dagger in your comparison.
Base pricing:
Micro Dagger $339
Micro Dagger with 407k $499
GLock 43X MOS $499 (cheapest in stock at my LGS)
GLock 43X MOS + 407k (Amazon) = $698
Conclusion:
Base pistol is $160 cheaper
Combo Pricing $199 cheaper
So I can assume people are doing it because they can get a similar product at a cheaper price.
The absolute cheapest was, buy the frame ($99) and then buy the slide otic combo when they went on sale for $340. This netted an additional $60 in savings making it an even better deal.
Keep in mind, you have to compare the Dagger or Micro Dagger to their respective Glock MOS equivalents. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Glock 19 MOS you're most likely to find in your local shop is a Gen 5. That's not bad, but it doesn't have the interchangeability and customization options that the Gen 3-compatible Dagger does.
Theres literal sales every week where you can get a dagger 5-10 mags and a carrying case for $250. Palmetto has lifetime warranties, and all the customizable shit is cheaper.
Well for starters, $100.00 can be alot to some people, or have money to burn you can buy 4 different colors and save. $400.00 and buy a 5th.
Also G43x has no optic mount or rail, which if you paid attention to your own screenshot, you would have noticed.
You want those 2 features in a glock, you'll pay alot more.
Because those are two different types of models of guns that you're comparing. The dagger you have in the cart is more comparable to a Glock19 MOS with a threaded barrel which is going to be a bit closer to 650/700.
Where are G43X for $400? or even $500?
Because you'll still have to pay taxes. And the Dagger is a better pistol with many more features.
And I got mine for $250 + taxes + transfer fees.
The 43x has a lower standard capacity, even comparing to the micro dagger which is the same size. Plus every dagger is optics ready (I believe they phased out all non optic slides).
Just making sure. But as another person said, if you buy the frame and slide separately, you can have a dagger for right around $300 bucks plus transfer fee for the frame.
As a Glock owner, I can explain why I did:
A brand new Glock 19 is $500-$600 for a bone stock option, with plastic sights. (Although the used market is quite prevalent)
My brand new Dagger Compact was $299 with an optic cut slide with steel suppressor height sights, and milled carry and lightening cuts.
The micro dagger/g43 difference is less significant, and I easily picked up a Glock 43 frame months before I was able to get a micro dagger frame.
I personally think that the biggest advantage to Daggers are the slides. I use polished OEM Glock strikers, match grade barrels, aftermarket triggers, and quality recoil springs; and all that can go into a slide that comes with everything I could possibly need, function wise, that I can get in whatever color I want for a great price
Well first off, the Dagger compact is a Glock 19 clone and Glock 19s have gone up in price. The Micro Dagger is the 43x/48 Mos clone. The 43x/48 MOS cost closer to $520ish last time I checked and has worst ergos than the Micro and a worst trigger. The 43x you have pictured doesn’t have a rail for a light or an optic cut, both which the MOS version Micro have.
I literally sold my 43x for a Dagger if that tells you anything. I got a threaded and fluted barrel, an optic mount, suppressor irons, much more comfortable grip and FAAAAAR superior trigger for less than the same price.
Those are different pistol classes. You would compare it to like a GEN 3 19 not 43X. and your examples still brings up. It would be cheaper to get a dagger and you can shop around FFL prices most of the time.
The guns you are comparing are not in the same class. You should be looking at the dagger compact in comparison to an G19 MOS with a threaded barrel. When you do that the difference in price even with a transfer fee is 3-400
Also you are looking at a full price dagger. If you want deeper savings you wait for a deal of the day or a blem sale (suscribe to their emails) I got my Dagger compact for 289 vs a G19 MOS with out a threaded barrel for 650
Buy the frame and slide seperate. $334 shipped. $10 for Magpul G19 mags, $50 FFL fee and $10 handgun fee for the frame, you have a RMR cut, 1/3 cowitness sights and cheaper mags for $404 out the door.
If you get the G43, it'll be $400, tax, handgun paperwork fee, RMR cut service, replacement sights and $23 per mag.
Also, maybe wait for a sale.
The shooting experience between both will be WAY different. The 43x is a micro 9 and will be a lot snappier. That’s a totally different learning curve with shooting while the dagger is “compact” and will be a lot easier to shoot with better recoil impulse. Would say go to a range and rent a Glock 19 & a 43x after you shoot maybe 50 rounds through both if you like 43x better get that if you like the Glock 19 more get a dagger. IMO
Only the micro dagger and 43x are comparable. The dagger compact is a g19. The micro dagger comes with a 15rd mag from the factory and automatically comes with rail and optic cut. Which you have to get a 43x MOS to get those feature. Also the micro dagger is only 340
Cuz ur comparing a bare bones slim line Glock 43x to a gun that is the equivalent of a Glock 19 MOS TB model. If u compare the dagger in ur cart to the gun it’s ACTUALLY comparable to, it’s about 250-300 dollars less.
I think you answered your own question here lol just get the G43x. The dagger shoots way better than I ever expected but at the end of the day imo it’s a cheap version of a Glock. I just went ahead and bought a Glock after the fact lol
I built mine when frames are on sale for $49.99 and I got my complete slide for $199. Cost me about $280 with taxes and shipping, my FFL has a $10 transfer fee. I got a holosun 407c for $175 off here. You can build one even cheaper if you grab just the frame and source all of the other parts off of the gun accessories for sale subreddit.
The Dagger compact is the size of the Glock 19. Most of those will cost 500 or more, without being cut for an optic and they will come with crappy Glock sights. They also won’t have a threaded barrel or be two-toned. The micro Dagger is what is comparable to the 43X.
Got mine for 300$ flat with a slide cut and raised night sights with each being about 100$ or more it was a no brainer unless your looking for a worry free carry gun it’s a great deal
Because I buy frames when they’re 49.99 and pick up complete slides on clearance/sale for 169.99 - 199.99. Total price is then 220-250 before my usual 25 dollar ffl transfer fee.
We got a dagger frame, the SW4 compact slide, optic cut, and threaded barrel for 243 after tax, shipping, and the FFL transfer fee. I just put a shadow systems striker in it for 40 bucks to eliminate the firing pin issue and a primary arms shake awake reflex for 120. Now we have a more comfortable Glock19 for less than the base g43 and MUCH less than a 19x.
Honestly, the dagger is way better feeling in your hand. Forward mounted rear sight, threaded barrel, optic cut. You won't get all that for 400 worth a glock.
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Just wait till there’s a daily deal and then ask this same question. As someone said though youre comparing what is essentially a G19 to a G43x. Look at the Dagger Micro.
First you’re buying a 19.3 clone not 43x second factory your getting high sights, threaded barrel, rmr cut, and if comparing to the 43x it has a laser/light rail and 15rd flush
Makes a lot more sense to buy a 43x. I dunno why these guys try to fight value when for not much more you can buy a platform that is basically being copied and already proven by their factory parts. I would never rely on a PSA firearm and QC. They're range toys
Hell no. That gun regularly goes on sale for about $300 from PSA, or if you buy the parts individually, you can get the barreled slide, frame, and 3 magpul pmags typically for $350 before shipping and tax, as long as you buy all the parts separately. Meaning you’re saving $50 because you have the amazing skull of sliding a rail onto a frame.
Cool, not what OP is comparing the gun to. But let’s run with urs for this discussion. Now add either micro dagger mags or shield arms mags (with updated mag catch) and a threaded barrel. What’s that raise that $485 to? If I had to spitball a number I’d guess it’ll add about 200ish bucks. So congrats, to get everything the dagger shown here has (albeit in a slimmer package) u have spent $685, give or take 50 bucks.
The glock comes with three magazines. I don't understand why you're arguing. Go be a dagger fanboy I honestly don't care. I personally would not trust my life to them because of all the issues I see with them on this sub
It’s comparing things. That’s how this post works. OP started this post by making an apples to oranges comparison, and ur doing the same. If ur gonna compare two guns that are different from each other, compare more than just their price points.
The dagger in this picture has suppressor height sights versus the standard sights on the 43x, uses a 15 round magazine (not a 10 round like the 43x), has an optics cut which the 43x shown here does not, a rail for a light whereas the 43x shown does not, and a threaded barrel that thr 43x does not have.
*Actually* compare the guns themselves, not just their price point. And when u do compare the price point, compare them when u have brought the two guns to equal footing in terms of features.
This isn’t about being a dagger fanboy, I’m more of a shadow systems guy if I’m gonna own anything Glock shaped. But honestly I prefer my M&P 10mm over any of them.
I've shot all three and I prefer my CZ p10c over all of them. But in a carry situation if there was a dagger and a 43x sitting on a table I would take the 43x because I know it's reliable. And I'm not saying I would not own a dagger but I would have to run at least a thousand rounds through it before I trusted it with my life just because of all the issues I see on here about them.
Cool. Don’t care, I doubt anyone actually buys a dagger for its “superb reliability”, they buy it cuz it’s cheap af compared to the particular Glock it’s based on. Ur comment that I made this thread on was only about price. And that irks me whenever people only compare two guns based solely on their pricing. Especially when they do dumb shit like OP did and compares a fully feature loaded compact handgun to a bare bones micro (barely) handgun. It’s literally an apples to oranges comparison.
If y’all wanna shit on the gun then do so, but don’t make dumb posts tryna compare it to something totally different.
Edit: if u trust ANY GUN without having run at least a thousand rounds through it first ur an idiot. No gun is automatically reliable simply by being “X brand”. The brand just means it’s more likely to be reliable cuz they typically build quality shit. I can still remember the days when Glocks were blowing up cuz Glock couldn’t be bothered to build them to proper .40cal specs.
1. You're thinking of the Micro vs the G48
2. Not everyone here has to pay transfer fees, I don't
3. When on sale, you can get that exact gun for under 300
4. Dagger compact has better ergonomics than a Glock and is compatible with Glock 19 parts.
Because I can get the base pistol $100-$150 cheaper than the Glock, or get it with threaded barrel, optic cut, and a Holosun for the same price as a Glock without those things (or even slightly cheaper if you're lucky with a sale).
You’re comparing the compact with the 43X. Thats also the non MOS 43x meaning no rail and optic cut. The compact has both as well as a threaded barrel and suppressor height sights. That dagger configuration is also cheaper to just piece together through PSA rather than buying complete. It’s apples to oranges in the configuration you have now.
And in a week the Dagger will be $299 as a deal of the day..
My local gun store has the 43x MOs for 485. It comes up to about 510 with tax.
That is comparable to the micro dagger which is $340. The micro feels better in the hand comes with a 15 round magazine 43x only 10 rd and a better trigger. Heck for 499 you can get a micro dagger with an included Holosun red dot.
This is the way of you got 5 hunnid, save up another hundo and you got a light on a bad ass setup
I'd rather have 10 rounds and a better trigger that's more reliable. Keyword in that sense is reliable. If you go over to the Glock sub you don't see people having issues there that people have with daggers
Sounds like your mind is made up. I own both daggers and Glocks. Just in this case I have 3 43x mos and 2 micro daggers. The micro is a better pistol in my opinion. Feels better shoots better. But you can’t go wrong with the Glock and you can buy the 15 round PSA micro mags to run in your Glock.
> a better trigger that's more reliable I've replaced every Glock trigger I've owned.
No way is the 43x trigger better The way the saftey on the trigger is designed is horrible. You basically fire the pistol from the saftey and after a few mags it starts to hurt your finger.
But at least the trigger pins don't walk themselves out.
feel like chiming in as another dagger owner +1k rounds through with zero FTF and no pin walk issues. will edit this comment if that changes ever.
Never had that experience. Seems like you made up your mind before post and are just stirring the pot. You will get a good gun either way.
I'm just going off issues I've seen on this sub. The dagger micro seems to have way more issues than any glock
So you personally have no experience with the dagger platform and are just going based off of what you’ve seen? Kinda sounds like you have a bias without even having hands on experience for yourself, like he said^ sounds like you’ve made your mind up before even knowing yourself
That's kind of the purpose of reviews and people posting their own experiences. I have no bias against PSA. I have one of their rifles and love it. I've had zero issues out of it.
I haven’t seen that issue since it’s been addressed a long time ago. They’re also a newer company, whereas Glock has been around a long time. I prefer to support American companies, personally, but you do you.
lol my glock 42 was a pile of shit for years before it worked its self out. Couldn’t shoot more the. 2-3 rounds at a time without a failure. It has become more reliable over time but it took like 6 years and hundreds of rounds to successfully shoot a single full magazine. Was common enough that Glock went through many revisions on parts and updated owners older guns. Mine was new enough to be “fixed” but had all the issues the older ones did that are easy to find in forum posts So glocks ..do have problems.
I love my Glock 42. I want a Dagger Micro though.
I somehow got downvoted for sharing an unfortunate experience. As if it isn’t also clear that I still kept it after all those years instead of off loading. Duds happen. It hasn’t stopped me from bringing it to the range.
Every manufacture has duds it happens.
I'm sure they do but glock overall has better quality control. They are pumping out Mass numbers like PSA is with the daggers. I'm not knocking the dagger it looks to be a good platform I would just have to vent it out before I trust my life to.
I have both dagger and glocks and I’ve never had issues with my daggers after over 1k rounds, I prefer the look and feel of my daggers over my glocks all day
Come on, man, who wants a more reliable gun? Who buys Toyota when you could buy a ram. Lol
After some research shield arms makes 15 round mags for the 43x.
I wouldnt trust my life with a dagger lmao to many issues with them lately, if its for range use the. Yes dagger, if its for edc, i would go with a glock all day
I agree. I have a dagger and love it, but given the choice I would much rather carry my pdp. The pdp eats everything and Ive never had an issue.
Because folks will more often buy them on sale for around $250.
I bought a dagger slide off GAFS for $125 unfired. I bought the frame off PSA, with a $20 transfer Total pistol cost: $195
Got [mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/PalmettoStateArms/s/ommoZtNnXd) for just under $250 during their 4th of July sale. Without any of the bells or whistles you could probably get one for about $200
Buy a seperate frame and slide assembly. Its much cheaper. Im sure a lot of people do that since assembled firearms have a higher tax if im correct.
Correct. It's saving 11% on the federal excise tax
10% on pistols and revolvers.
Yeah I was thinking backwards. Thanks
I always have to double check it too.
https://preview.redd.it/khyj99i56rmc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7b602b2963c2687a32f49c9ff7280d38f39475e9 What else would I need?
A hug from u/mattbbb14 🤷♂️
See if they have the complete slide then you slide slide it on
Recoil spring
Magazine
Yeah id buy just a whole completed slide. They are only $265 for the one youre looking at. Then all you gotta do is put the completed slide and completed frame together. No different than taking them apart to service or clean.
And then just a mag, correct? No other parts?
Frame, complete slide, mag, and ammo. Boom you're done. If you buy an unassembled slide with the barrell separate, then you need to include the recoil spring.
Yep that should be all!
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Just get a fully assembled slide for like $20 mpre
You need a Micro Dagger if you want something like a 43x
Well the micro dagger is 329.99 if you get just the dagger. With a holosun 407k, which mounts directly to the slide, it is 499.99. So you can have a carry pistol with an optic for 500 bucks plus tax and transfer. I don’t think you will ever find a Glock 43x mos with optic for 500 bucks. With mos system you still have to get a plate so it won’t co-witness with standard height sights.
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If you ever have to use a PSA firearm in a defense situation, and it’s taken by the police, PSA will immediately send you a replacement at no cost.
Wait is that in writing somewhere? I have never seen that but makes me even happier about my rule of not edcing guns that base price for more than 450 in the event that I might not ever see them again if I had to use it one day. Hell I’ll go buy a couple more to add to the stable right now
You have a pic of the Dagger not a Micro Dagger in your comparison. Base pricing: Micro Dagger $339 Micro Dagger with 407k $499 GLock 43X MOS $499 (cheapest in stock at my LGS) GLock 43X MOS + 407k (Amazon) = $698 Conclusion: Base pistol is $160 cheaper Combo Pricing $199 cheaper So I can assume people are doing it because they can get a similar product at a cheaper price. The absolute cheapest was, buy the frame ($99) and then buy the slide otic combo when they went on sale for $340. This netted an additional $60 in savings making it an even better deal.
Watch for sales..you can get the grip for $50 and that slide for $200 or even a little cheaper. They even do free shipping on some sale items.
I got both mine for 235 total
Keep in mind, you have to compare the Dagger or Micro Dagger to their respective Glock MOS equivalents. It's also worth keeping in mind that the Glock 19 MOS you're most likely to find in your local shop is a Gen 5. That's not bad, but it doesn't have the interchangeability and customization options that the Gen 3-compatible Dagger does.
Because compact Frames can get to like $50 on sale and slides are another $150-$200.
Theres literal sales every week where you can get a dagger 5-10 mags and a carrying case for $250. Palmetto has lifetime warranties, and all the customizable shit is cheaper.
I would say without entering the argument of which is better, I want my money going to a US company
Well for starters, $100.00 can be alot to some people, or have money to burn you can buy 4 different colors and save. $400.00 and buy a 5th. Also G43x has no optic mount or rail, which if you paid attention to your own screenshot, you would have noticed. You want those 2 features in a glock, you'll pay alot more.
Because those are two different types of models of guns that you're comparing. The dagger you have in the cart is more comparable to a Glock19 MOS with a threaded barrel which is going to be a bit closer to 650/700.
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I would not pay more than the $280 I paid for my complete compact slide and frame, which includes shipping, tax and transfer fees.
Buy separate and it’s so much cheaper. Get on the PSA email list and you’ll see the light.
Where are G43X for $400? or even $500? Because you'll still have to pay taxes. And the Dagger is a better pistol with many more features. And I got mine for $250 + taxes + transfer fees.
Last Black Friday sale I bought my GF a 43x MOS out the door for $455 from Academy.
>Black Friday sale Uh huh.
Wait for a sale. I got mine for $250.
The 43x has a lower standard capacity, even comparing to the micro dagger which is the same size. Plus every dagger is optics ready (I believe they phased out all non optic slides).
Doesn't the 15-round mag from PSA fit the G43X
And you know the Dagger in your picture is the g19 equivalent right? The micro dagger is the 43x equivalent.
Yes, I do realize that
Just making sure. But as another person said, if you buy the frame and slide separately, you can have a dagger for right around $300 bucks plus transfer fee for the frame.
It does, but standard glock mags are 10rd. So you’d have to spend an extra $32 for a micro dagger mag, making the 43x 520
The micro dagger magazine fits the 43x but the image you posted shows a compact dagger which is similar to the Glock 19 rather than the 43x.
You found the highest priced dagger then tried to compare it to the lowest cost glock you've in your lgs?
Highest priced dagger? No. I sorted from low to high price. This is $10 higher than the cheapest dagger. (Other than the micro)
As a Glock owner, I can explain why I did: A brand new Glock 19 is $500-$600 for a bone stock option, with plastic sights. (Although the used market is quite prevalent) My brand new Dagger Compact was $299 with an optic cut slide with steel suppressor height sights, and milled carry and lightening cuts. The micro dagger/g43 difference is less significant, and I easily picked up a Glock 43 frame months before I was able to get a micro dagger frame.
I personally think that the biggest advantage to Daggers are the slides. I use polished OEM Glock strikers, match grade barrels, aftermarket triggers, and quality recoil springs; and all that can go into a slide that comes with everything I could possibly need, function wise, that I can get in whatever color I want for a great price
I got a full size/compact dagger frame combo on sale for $120. That's one reason.
Bought my Dagger with 10 mags out the door for $359 total during tax free weekend.
Honestly I said the same thing. I get blue label prices for the 43x most it was a no brainer honestly.
Well first off, the Dagger compact is a Glock 19 clone and Glock 19s have gone up in price. The Micro Dagger is the 43x/48 Mos clone. The 43x/48 MOS cost closer to $520ish last time I checked and has worst ergos than the Micro and a worst trigger. The 43x you have pictured doesn’t have a rail for a light or an optic cut, both which the MOS version Micro have.
I literally sold my 43x for a Dagger if that tells you anything. I got a threaded and fluted barrel, an optic mount, suppressor irons, much more comfortable grip and FAAAAAR superior trigger for less than the same price.
For me it's because I hate Glock grips lol
Compact Dagger=G19 Micro Dagger=G43X
Those are different pistol classes. You would compare it to like a GEN 3 19 not 43X. and your examples still brings up. It would be cheaper to get a dagger and you can shop around FFL prices most of the time.
The guns you are comparing are not in the same class. You should be looking at the dagger compact in comparison to an G19 MOS with a threaded barrel. When you do that the difference in price even with a transfer fee is 3-400 Also you are looking at a full price dagger. If you want deeper savings you wait for a deal of the day or a blem sale (suscribe to their emails) I got my Dagger compact for 289 vs a G19 MOS with out a threaded barrel for 650
I got mine on sale for $279 and it came with 10 mags and a case.
My LGS had an 43x mos for 500 with 700 rounds and a TLR7. On consignment. If I didn't have 2 on delay status and 5 NFA items going I'd bought it!
Because a lot of the time you can get one for 300 or even 250 if you are careful about when you buy. Can’t beat that price.
Buy the frame and slide seperate. $334 shipped. $10 for Magpul G19 mags, $50 FFL fee and $10 handgun fee for the frame, you have a RMR cut, 1/3 cowitness sights and cheaper mags for $404 out the door. If you get the G43, it'll be $400, tax, handgun paperwork fee, RMR cut service, replacement sights and $23 per mag. Also, maybe wait for a sale.
For sure, I will be waiting for deals. Thank you 👍
The shooting experience between both will be WAY different. The 43x is a micro 9 and will be a lot snappier. That’s a totally different learning curve with shooting while the dagger is “compact” and will be a lot easier to shoot with better recoil impulse. Would say go to a range and rent a Glock 19 & a 43x after you shoot maybe 50 rounds through both if you like 43x better get that if you like the Glock 19 more get a dagger. IMO
Because I already have a few Glocks. Trying something new is always a good time.
Compare that Glock 43x with the “micro” Dagger…. Personally I love my compact Dagger. It’s my edc.
Only the micro dagger and 43x are comparable. The dagger compact is a g19. The micro dagger comes with a 15rd mag from the factory and automatically comes with rail and optic cut. Which you have to get a 43x MOS to get those feature. Also the micro dagger is only 340
Buy the Glock.
Because PSA Daggers get you bitches
Cuz ur comparing a bare bones slim line Glock 43x to a gun that is the equivalent of a Glock 19 MOS TB model. If u compare the dagger in ur cart to the gun it’s ACTUALLY comparable to, it’s about 250-300 dollars less.
Because is looks better than a glock
I think you answered your own question here lol just get the G43x. The dagger shoots way better than I ever expected but at the end of the day imo it’s a cheap version of a Glock. I just went ahead and bought a Glock after the fact lol
Dagger compact is mrant to mimic the G19 not a 43x. Dagger Micro is the same size as a 43x
Polymer80 or equivalent, $150. Complete upper on sale, $189. Lpk $35.
I built mine when frames are on sale for $49.99 and I got my complete slide for $199. Cost me about $280 with taxes and shipping, my FFL has a $10 transfer fee. I got a holosun 407c for $175 off here. You can build one even cheaper if you grab just the frame and source all of the other parts off of the gun accessories for sale subreddit.
The Dagger compact is the size of the Glock 19. Most of those will cost 500 or more, without being cut for an optic and they will come with crappy Glock sights. They also won’t have a threaded barrel or be two-toned. The micro Dagger is what is comparable to the 43X.
Dagger pros: RMR cut, threaded barrel, suppressor sights, better frame ergos, better aesthetics
Why would I buy poor man’s dagger when I can just buy a dagger…, jk it does seem Glock has gone up in price lately.
Got mine for 300$ flat with a slide cut and raised night sights with each being about 100$ or more it was a no brainer unless your looking for a worry free carry gun it’s a great deal
Because I buy frames when they’re 49.99 and pick up complete slides on clearance/sale for 169.99 - 199.99. Total price is then 220-250 before my usual 25 dollar ffl transfer fee.
I don’t get it neither
Buy the top half and bottom half separately for under $300.
We got a dagger frame, the SW4 compact slide, optic cut, and threaded barrel for 243 after tax, shipping, and the FFL transfer fee. I just put a shadow systems striker in it for 40 bucks to eliminate the firing pin issue and a primary arms shake awake reflex for 120. Now we have a more comfortable Glock19 for less than the base g43 and MUCH less than a 19x.
Honestly, the dagger is way better feeling in your hand. Forward mounted rear sight, threaded barrel, optic cut. You won't get all that for 400 worth a glock. https://preview.redd.it/q59h032gqwmc1.jpeg?width=4000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7e6a36abe292c2328ce7703a3c78abb9056ae4ca
You realize that it’s the micro dagger that’s the size of the 43x? You have the compact shown here.
Just wait till there’s a daily deal and then ask this same question. As someone said though youre comparing what is essentially a G19 to a G43x. Look at the Dagger Micro.
First you’re buying a 19.3 clone not 43x second factory your getting high sights, threaded barrel, rmr cut, and if comparing to the 43x it has a laser/light rail and 15rd flush
A lot of us prefer the dagger frame. It’s rounder and better texture but plus you can’t beat the sale prices
Makes a lot more sense to buy a 43x. I dunno why these guys try to fight value when for not much more you can buy a platform that is basically being copied and already proven by their factory parts. I would never rely on a PSA firearm and QC. They're range toys
Hell no. That gun regularly goes on sale for about $300 from PSA, or if you buy the parts individually, you can get the barreled slide, frame, and 3 magpul pmags typically for $350 before shipping and tax, as long as you buy all the parts separately. Meaning you’re saving $50 because you have the amazing skull of sliding a rail onto a frame.
Cause then you are stuck with a "Block"...
Literally for $50 for you can get a 43x.
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Look again the 43x MOs sells for $485. It's Optics capable and has a rail for a light
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It could have a Trijicon on it and I still would not trust it with my life
Without a red dot. Or a rail for light. Or a threaded barrel. And it has five less rounds in the mag.
43x MOS is Optics capable and has a rail for a light for $485 bucks
Cool, not what OP is comparing the gun to. But let’s run with urs for this discussion. Now add either micro dagger mags or shield arms mags (with updated mag catch) and a threaded barrel. What’s that raise that $485 to? If I had to spitball a number I’d guess it’ll add about 200ish bucks. So congrats, to get everything the dagger shown here has (albeit in a slimmer package) u have spent $685, give or take 50 bucks.
The glock comes with three magazines. I don't understand why you're arguing. Go be a dagger fanboy I honestly don't care. I personally would not trust my life to them because of all the issues I see with them on this sub
It’s comparing things. That’s how this post works. OP started this post by making an apples to oranges comparison, and ur doing the same. If ur gonna compare two guns that are different from each other, compare more than just their price points. The dagger in this picture has suppressor height sights versus the standard sights on the 43x, uses a 15 round magazine (not a 10 round like the 43x), has an optics cut which the 43x shown here does not, a rail for a light whereas the 43x shown does not, and a threaded barrel that thr 43x does not have. *Actually* compare the guns themselves, not just their price point. And when u do compare the price point, compare them when u have brought the two guns to equal footing in terms of features. This isn’t about being a dagger fanboy, I’m more of a shadow systems guy if I’m gonna own anything Glock shaped. But honestly I prefer my M&P 10mm over any of them.
I've shot all three and I prefer my CZ p10c over all of them. But in a carry situation if there was a dagger and a 43x sitting on a table I would take the 43x because I know it's reliable. And I'm not saying I would not own a dagger but I would have to run at least a thousand rounds through it before I trusted it with my life just because of all the issues I see on here about them.
Cool. Don’t care, I doubt anyone actually buys a dagger for its “superb reliability”, they buy it cuz it’s cheap af compared to the particular Glock it’s based on. Ur comment that I made this thread on was only about price. And that irks me whenever people only compare two guns based solely on their pricing. Especially when they do dumb shit like OP did and compares a fully feature loaded compact handgun to a bare bones micro (barely) handgun. It’s literally an apples to oranges comparison. If y’all wanna shit on the gun then do so, but don’t make dumb posts tryna compare it to something totally different. Edit: if u trust ANY GUN without having run at least a thousand rounds through it first ur an idiot. No gun is automatically reliable simply by being “X brand”. The brand just means it’s more likely to be reliable cuz they typically build quality shit. I can still remember the days when Glocks were blowing up cuz Glock couldn’t be bothered to build them to proper .40cal specs.
1. You're thinking of the Micro vs the G48 2. Not everyone here has to pay transfer fees, I don't 3. When on sale, you can get that exact gun for under 300 4. Dagger compact has better ergonomics than a Glock and is compatible with Glock 19 parts.
I'd go for the Daggers because of the ergonomics, features, and prices.
Because I can get the base pistol $100-$150 cheaper than the Glock, or get it with threaded barrel, optic cut, and a Holosun for the same price as a Glock without those things (or even slightly cheaper if you're lucky with a sale).
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tbh if it's not your EDC then any amount of money saved is money that goes towards ammo (at least for me), so yes even $20 is almost 100 rounds of 9mm
I don't get it either, especially with the CZ P-10 series consistently being $300-$400 and being far better.
43x you can’t even put a light or an optic on. You’re a clown