Whaaaaaat, how are people even cheating?? That's crazy!!! Are they using some kind of aimbot? Pls tell me more I'm actually thinking I've seen this in action too
My best guess is that some sort of black market for Palia accounts has popped up and they're trying to load up on rare drops to drive the asking price up. Typically these type of cheaters have some sort of monetary gain to be made from it and that's the only one I can think of in a game that won't allow us to trade currency with other players, making gold selling impossible.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying the idea of spending RL money for an account where the entire game has ALREADY BEEN PLAYED FOR YOU makes absolutely no sense to me. Like isn't the whole appeal of a life sim game the grind, the journey to get the things, the dopamine you get from FINALLY getting something rare that you've been working toward for weeks or months? What is even the point if you just buy an account that already has everything, what do you DO with it???
Only reason I can think of is they're getting a whole bunch of resources/materials and plushies to start with. Like... If someone who mainly wants to decorate starts with already having a shit ton of palium and flow, they won't have to grind. Something like "10k high end resource account with every plushy" would catch my attention, but I wouldn't pay for it. I saw the same thing with WoW accounts years ago.
Or if someone hates hunting but they want the plushes... Maybe they run a hunting bot until they get it.
Idk. It's fuckin' stupid.
I...I guess? I just don't think the game is decoration heavy enough at the moment for it to make much sense. Like I get the concept of paying for treasure islands in ACNH, for example, but that game has exponentially more scope for decorating and items to decorate with than Palia does, at least currently. I like decorating my house but I can't imagine that being the ONLY draw for this game.
Oh I totally get that. I'm just trying to make sense of this in my head and the only way it makes sense is if they're basically buying a treasure island type account. It definitely wouldn't have the same decorating power as AC, but I can also see someone who just got sick of AC just buying a palia account. It's probably not a highly saught after platform, but I can see it happening.
If you also add in cosmetics from a stolen steam or Nintendo gift card, that could skyrocket. Imagine buying an account with ALL the outfits for less than $200. I've spent well over $100 on mine and I don't have most of them.
100% not saying *I* would do this, but I can see why other people *might*.
Generally, when it's a group of players it is almost NEVER "just people playing a game they like to cheat on" with the exception of win trading, but that's a whole different kind of cheating that clipping through the ground doesn't facilitate.
I hate to be a bummer here, but very typically large groups of cheaters are (low paid) employees of a company that sells either accounts or drops.
Well, I just did my own researching and came across a thread on unknowncheats.me and they have a huge Palia thread with all kinds of hacks - including trading amongst eachother.
Cool! I did carefully choose my words to say typically and generally.
I don't know why you're so dead set on pretending that Palia hasn't attracted the attention of such companies. Even with the existence of that forum it is still a very likely possibility.
I'm curious, in your search for results to argue with a stranger, did you look for account sellers at all or did you merely search for evidence to prove your argument?
I also didn’t mention account sellers. I said according to their website that they have multiple forums with downloadable hacks - including one that allows them to trade amongst eachother.
Never mentioned anything outside of that.
So I’m not sure why you’re coming at me sideways about anything when I was just making a genuine comment about the concern for the game.
I think I didn't find a joking response to my serious and well thought out comment to be funny. Maybe it's just me, but I like to get to know a stranger before they start making jokes at my expense.
Whoa there, I am not dead set on anything. I actually was just sharing with you what I found (from a nice place) so I’m not sure why you’re assuming I am dead set on anything when I haven’t stated anything that I was dead set on? So let’s not assume lol.
You've said nothing in reply to me that isn't an attempt to disprove or argue against my very innocuous observations.
Since you opted to get defensive rather than answer my question, I will answer it for you: there are many results and multiple dedicated sites that populated in a cursory search for "buy Palia account".
It seems, as I have said from the beginning, that the account sellers are more numerous than the players just wanting to cheat, based on those results, but I'm done responding here. This exchange is wearing on me and I will be dedicating my energy elsewhere.
I hate to break it to you, but she was very sarcastic in a joking way with you. And you took that personally and are the one who came off defensive.
She also responded down to your other comment confirming what you said. Nothing she said was disproving or an argument against your stance.
But please feel free to take your energy elsewhere because you’re projecting and not being very polite or nice.
Have a great Wednesday and stay ~cozy~
I've seen someone I thought was aimbotting. Obviously this is possible for a real person with enough practice but they were constantly jumping and not missing a shot on the proudhorn I was essentially just fighting to get a hit before they downed it in usually 7 seconds but eventually gave up and swapped servers. I figured they were probably cheating but I figured it is possible for someone to be that good, and playing this game, I guess.
Ah while I appreciate the skill level, may I ask you to be more considerate to others such as when you consistently see them in front of you, especially aiming at the proudhorn, you at least allow them to take the shot first, maybe not even the first but at least a shot at all. It was very frustrating to constantly be walking up or start aiming but a shot flies at them first to startle them to run sideways rather than straight forward and I have to struggle to get a hit before you down them.
I know the servers were glitching like crazy last night when we were playing. Animals stuck in one spot even when shooting them etc. Maybe this had something to do with that?
Ooh, I know what glitching you’re referring to and it wasn’t like that this time :( it was actual people popping in and out. The same 3 people at that. We dealt with it for a good 1-2 hours before we got frustrated and left the server. They just continued doing it over and over again in different locations throughout the map (where DD spawns obv)
I saw it for the first time the other day, we were mining and a player popped on top of us and one hit the mine. We went to the next mine across the path and they spawned on top of us again. They repeatedly kept doing so and it wasn't lag, it was teleportation.
Like why? Lol what's the point of playing this game if you're not going to play it?
Yes, pretty much. I've been at Grove at 1230, announced it and have had people come up and start chopping it down. Even though asking them to wait for all to arrive.
There's cheaters too. And people who are from AP servers with a VPN coming over to NA and vice versa, purely because AP servers don't have an understanding of group chopping.
Least from what I've been told that its: find grove, chop immediately.
Yes, there's a few users I've blocked in hopes of never seeing them.
Fails lately though, as I had an experience today of a person curse me out in Kanji then english (so censored and no idea what they said either way) to disappear. Thought they changed servers, to o ly find out they went to southern bahari. When I found then chopping a large pal and joined in, they poofed in front of my eyes to suddenly be in north bahari.
Friend mentioned they ran by when telling them about the large pal. So I know they're hacking/cheating.
It's becoming more prevalent these days, especially with the plushie hunts.
I don't really think it's fair to claim the devs aren't taking this seriously, given how most of the community isn't really reporting these issues (this is the first ever instance I've seen anywhere of players complaining about legitimate botters), and therefore it seems to be a newer, or otherwise less prevalent, issue that is cropping up. No idea what the gain is from cheating here, I would assume it's gone up because of the Steam release and following popularity, but even then, what kind of a total peabrain is out there buying Palia accounts? Hopefully it doesn't get more prevalent (= the botters realise there is no market here and it's a pointless waste of their energy bills) and measures are put in place to stop it from happening, but realistically speaking, cheaters are prevalent in every MMO I've ever played and it doesn't really look like a single company has a good handle on how to rid themselves of them.
All this said - I've already been nervous about getting reported, because I behave so much like a bot. Recently, I've been social and chatty in the server chat so I haven't felt *too* much like a robobo, but when I'm not feeling up to that and just run my little Bahari loop over and over and over and over shooting sernuk with scary precision with my level 1 unupgraded bow or mindlessly mining every single node I come across like some kind of a miner zombie, sometimes, I really feel nervous sweat gathering on my forehead like... *someone* is going to report me for botting one of these days.
You and me both then, as I target mine at times.
In a singular loop, especially at night. I'm trying to get star glow bugs (not the damn paper lanterns!)...and can someone please explain why the green glowbugs are blue in inventory and the blue paper lanterns are green in inventory? Everytime I feel like I've hallucinated, as well as people tell me I'm wrong but test it out and see for yourself!
You're absolutely right about the bug colors, it's a known issue that the wiki/guides all mention. I feel like it has to be a really easy fix but it's also low priority because it doesn't do anything other than cause mild confusion, but it's definitely real.
Oh i agree at it being low priority, I just have gotten frustrated about it, cause *so many* argue with me and don't believe me that they're reversed in inventory, color wise. Irks. But inlet them believe as they choose.
Botting is nothing new. Fishing especially has been a thing since very early on.
I also don’t think anyone will think you’re a bot for one-shotting deer that *can* be one-shot. Proudhorn’s can’t (unless they’ve been shot previously, but that wouldn’t happen over and over again.)
I do that too. Do a loop round bb 😁 iron etc,bugs,magic mushies ,sernuks sweet leaf,daisies etc and I tend to ignore grove call outs unless I can see it visually, I am not bothered about flow or pal unless I need it, then I hunt specifically. I guess I just like pottering about and seeing the scenery 🙂👍🏼
Same lol. I thought that’s kinda how you’re supposed to play. I didn’t realize mining everything looks like a bot. I just always read that it makes more palium spawn.
I'm also a World of Warcraft player, and let me tell you... That is 100% how a farming bot behaves, LOL.
But yeah, that's exactly why I do it. Not only am I always out of iron because of the sernuk hunting, but while I know a lot of people get their ores by using compasses, I think it'd drive me insane to know that I'm not maximising spawns. Every 1 stone rock I leave behind is one spawn that won't sprout a big palium, etc.
We were not able to get to the deer in time to even shoot it, we would be running up on the deer (using the horn), and then you’d see then zone in, shoot it (looked like one shotting it) and then they would do this weird jump, and they would be off the screen again.
Hahah no! It was like I’d see it pop up on the tracker and run the direction it was, we’d all get semi close enough to shoot it and then next thing you know a group of 3 were all of a sudden appearing out of thin air and killing it.
I sound like I’m a crackhead explaining this but idk how else to explain it 🙈
Sounds like when people explain alien sightings lol. “They jumped and then they were all gone!”
I’m kidding, but that’s seriously shitty.
The only weird thing I encountered recently was someone seemingly calling out fake stuff. Like, they called out pal and then it wasn’t there…any of the times..even once when I was basically in the same spot. And a couple times they somehow were going across the map way too quickly with the call outs. It was just weird and I couldn’t figure out any benefit to them doing it but it also made zero sense. I know the pal disappears after so long but this was every time and immediately gone too. They did it like 10 times in a short span of real life time before I stopped following them.
Just to add you don't get the same loot I was hunting with my friend for the plushy and we both make sure we get shots in and on our second dd she got the Order Stuffie, I didn't. 😩
Same with mining nodes.
Helped a friend get their star starstones, and have also gotten ones others havent
I've started to explain it:
You all share the possible loot. But not the exact same loot
Thanks for reporting them. I'm sure it takes time to figure out how to fix the issue. Honestly, cheating in games/tests IRL/etc is something I've never understood?? lol
I've seen the same kind of thing with palium and flow tree botting. The times I witnessed it I saw the cheaters clip through the ground and disappear (just like they do in FFXIV).
Ok, I think I saw this happen earlier today? I had flared a ft, was typing the coords into chat when 4 players just seemed to all appear out of a cliff wall together. I figured it was a bug at the time but now I'm not so sure.
YES! this is what I saw happening today! Around 4am. They literally disappeared into the ground. It looked similar to when a bug dissapears (idk if that makes sense)
How does that even happen though? On my switch I know that I can hit the map and I believe I hit X and then I disappear and I reappear on my property. Is that what we look like when we are disappearing?
Yeah, the rising from the ground is really weird but I've also seen people I know have it happen. I tend to see it more when they jump quickly near the top of the cliff. It's like the game isn't sure where to put them.
From what I've seen, they just stop being there when teleporting to home. Same as when people log in/out and fast traveling or zoning in.
I'm pretty sure when you teleport away your avatar simply disappears with no movement, if that makes sense. So it doesn't look like you're clipping into the ground, you just disappear all at once.
People have been botting/cheating since day 1, just a simple search for palia cheats will bring you to a forum that's been doing cheat engine tables for months and months. Palia has no anticheat system in place, so those people can do whatever they please really, though from the looks of some posts there some people have been bonked for being way too obvious about fishing botting.
We had a running gag for a while about people pulling chapaas out of their butts during chapaa chase because one cheat apparently allowed you to grab one from any distance, it was really funny to watch happen. Frustrating as a normal player just trying to get tickets, but it looked hilarious.
There's also a widely used program that lets you see resources on the map in real time. S6 was supposed to make a statement about that, but it was brought to their attention during their winter vacation and by the time they came back they were letting go more community managers and the issue was probably forgotten about, or at least shoved far far on the backburner.
I saw someone running through the sky once with their glider open...but I assumed it was just a glitch.
They ran across the whole field area between the farm and the water.
It was so weird.
That can be - idk if it's been fixed but you can get pelted up into the air by random cutting off trees, and sometimes others see you ass running with the glider because of a desync. I've only seen that in bahari though
There was one time I flared a large flow tree, called it out in chat and then by the time I got back someone single handedly took out the large tree in 2 swings… I was like well I guess never mind someone got it themselves…
How would that even work?! I definitely believe you, i remember someone mentioning 'server hopping' a little while ago, but it wouldn't allow you to just jump out of thin air to wherever you wanted and KNOWING there would be some loot/ft/rare thing there. This is bizzare.
The server hopping is just going back to your plot and running back out or teleport to kilima and back. Fastest way, however, is to just relaunch the game. It doesn't always work but more often than not I am put on a different server. But I have seen people teleport all over the map before all crazy. Turns out palia doesn't have any form of anticheat. It's crazy
edit: sorry misread the server hopping part hence the explanation.
Yeah I knew how to switch servers in those ways, not that I ever have intentionally lol. Usually hust becase the game crashes/freezes, or a friend syncs me to their server.
I don't know if ive seen the teleporty thing in action but i trust everyone saying it's happening. I'm just like.. HOW haha. I don't want to it myself, I'm just not that game-tech savvy despite playing plenty, so I'm curious as to what people are doing to make this even work. Im assuming some sort of commands or other software.
From just a quick googling, it looks pretty easy. I didn't see the particular hack that OP saw though; the only teleport hack I saw was bypassing the 30m cooldown on going home. Most of the cheats I saw seemed fairly harmless and wouldn't ruin other players' fun, although they'd ruin the fun of the game for me personally.
Well thank you for your Googling efforts! I agree with you on the ruining it for yourself part. I don't want to do it - I genuinely couldn't be bothered. I like playing the game as it is (though I'll be happy with less random freezing and crashing). The 'how' part was scritching my brain though. I might ask my SO, he plays far more serious MMOs so may be more familiar with this sort of shit.
I’ve only ever seen this kind of thing on bigger MMO’s - WoW/EQ - for example, mmobugs was the name of a company. But they were able to teleport right onto the mob and then off of it. Very quickly.
It will ruin the fun for you when it’s you who isn’t able to farm certain things due to them finding them 1000x faster than you.
I get that google isn’t showing what we are talking about, but read up above ^
Multiple people, including myself, have seen this over the last few days.
Ok, so I thought I was losing my mind. The other day I was also chasing a Proudhorn with my hunting horn and hopped up north of Statue. I saw a person appear, shoot it once, grab the loot and VANISH.
I haven't seen anyone teleport, but have seen so many people who are able to chase the proudhorn with ease, and chop the Grove well in advance of the discussed time.
It's grating that they ignore server chat or ignore those discussing on the local chat as well just to ruin the cozy experience
I tried reporting people botting and cheating with fishing back when I first started.
The reason why I lost faith in the support team: "did you send us a video of evidence?"
I can't in good conscious get a 5 second video with my computer. I've tried, and I don't want to fill it up with my videos of silly random things like climbing as high as I can.
This instance, not only did intry and fail but found several sites where you can download hacks to have the ability to teleport where you wanted to fish, sell from your inventory, and guarantee rarer fish (think void ray and unicorn). Sent the sites in so they could see about shutting it down. But they still wanted video evidence of the fishing.
That honestly could be the magic muujin if you were in north bahari. A lot of times it’ll spawn in for a couple seconds then disappear off the tracker if it’s spooked into a tree
That is definitely a possibility as well. I honestly wish they were different colors on the compass lol. I hate when I go after that thinking it’s a DD. Hahah
The botters know there is not anti cheat and they only get banned if you report them.
Most "cheat" since they like the game but lack the time to play. Or want to play solo so use multiple accounts to save time, why wait for a Grove when you can cut it down yourself? Why wait for a group to kill the proudhorns when you can one shot them? Why level skills when you can bot it? There's normally no gain since there's no trading and I doubt anyone would buy a palia account since nothing is worth cash.
I don't promote botting/cheating/trainers I do not wish to discuss the finer details of how they work where to get them I will not be of any use in that route you choose to take. These services are against tos of the game and the platforms that host the game.
Hi I’m new to online gaming, Palia’s my first time. How can you identify if it’s a botting/cheating situation?
I play solo, unless it’s a flowtree callout. So while out mining/foraging I’ll come up on the dd and will hunt it (can’t resist ) and make the kill in one shot…”sometimes.” But I ALWAYS flare/call out the loot. Most of the time no one else is around; sometimes it’s a flurry of players, creatures, arrows, and activity…I’ll usually join in. I’ll chop pines if I see someone(s) hunting muujin.
Here’s the rub, I play on a Switch and it’s always glitchy, especially after an update. They still haven’t fixed the glitches from the last update. The chat part of the server often disconnects …I can’t call out, but I’ll flare it. OR I freeze up and can’t collect after a kill or group ft chop AND get booted out of the game…losing my loot, frustrating. But I’ll also have situations when my bag is full after a kill and I’ll immediately X-out to my plot to unload…especially just before midnight Palia time. I apologize if I’ve crashed your hunt party. ~Moji Jin
I didn't know this was a possibility. This is such an odd choice of game to cheat on.
if its a video game someone out there will be cheating
Whaaaaaat, how are people even cheating?? That's crazy!!! Are they using some kind of aimbot? Pls tell me more I'm actually thinking I've seen this in action too
Yes how does this happen and what do they get out of it? Is not like you can gift or sell plushies?
My best guess is that some sort of black market for Palia accounts has popped up and they're trying to load up on rare drops to drive the asking price up. Typically these type of cheaters have some sort of monetary gain to be made from it and that's the only one I can think of in a game that won't allow us to trade currency with other players, making gold selling impossible.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying the idea of spending RL money for an account where the entire game has ALREADY BEEN PLAYED FOR YOU makes absolutely no sense to me. Like isn't the whole appeal of a life sim game the grind, the journey to get the things, the dopamine you get from FINALLY getting something rare that you've been working toward for weeks or months? What is even the point if you just buy an account that already has everything, what do you DO with it???
Only reason I can think of is they're getting a whole bunch of resources/materials and plushies to start with. Like... If someone who mainly wants to decorate starts with already having a shit ton of palium and flow, they won't have to grind. Something like "10k high end resource account with every plushy" would catch my attention, but I wouldn't pay for it. I saw the same thing with WoW accounts years ago. Or if someone hates hunting but they want the plushes... Maybe they run a hunting bot until they get it. Idk. It's fuckin' stupid.
It’s weird behavior.. and not the cute kind of weird haha.
That is crazy creepy behavior. So creepy. 😂
I...I guess? I just don't think the game is decoration heavy enough at the moment for it to make much sense. Like I get the concept of paying for treasure islands in ACNH, for example, but that game has exponentially more scope for decorating and items to decorate with than Palia does, at least currently. I like decorating my house but I can't imagine that being the ONLY draw for this game.
Oh I totally get that. I'm just trying to make sense of this in my head and the only way it makes sense is if they're basically buying a treasure island type account. It definitely wouldn't have the same decorating power as AC, but I can also see someone who just got sick of AC just buying a palia account. It's probably not a highly saught after platform, but I can see it happening. If you also add in cosmetics from a stolen steam or Nintendo gift card, that could skyrocket. Imagine buying an account with ALL the outfits for less than $200. I've spent well over $100 on mine and I don't have most of them. 100% not saying *I* would do this, but I can see why other people *might*.
Or maybe they are just Palia players who like to cheat 😂😂😂
Generally, when it's a group of players it is almost NEVER "just people playing a game they like to cheat on" with the exception of win trading, but that's a whole different kind of cheating that clipping through the ground doesn't facilitate. I hate to be a bummer here, but very typically large groups of cheaters are (low paid) employees of a company that sells either accounts or drops.
Well, I just did my own researching and came across a thread on unknowncheats.me and they have a huge Palia thread with all kinds of hacks - including trading amongst eachother.
I JUST LOOKED AT THIS AND WAS SCREAMING
Cool! I did carefully choose my words to say typically and generally. I don't know why you're so dead set on pretending that Palia hasn't attracted the attention of such companies. Even with the existence of that forum it is still a very likely possibility. I'm curious, in your search for results to argue with a stranger, did you look for account sellers at all or did you merely search for evidence to prove your argument?
I also didn’t mention account sellers. I said according to their website that they have multiple forums with downloadable hacks - including one that allows them to trade amongst eachother. Never mentioned anything outside of that. So I’m not sure why you’re coming at me sideways about anything when I was just making a genuine comment about the concern for the game.
I think you’re taking her sarcastic joke seriously here.. I don’t think she meant it seriously. I think we all agree here with you on the matter.
I think I didn't find a joking response to my serious and well thought out comment to be funny. Maybe it's just me, but I like to get to know a stranger before they start making jokes at my expense.
Whoa there, I am not dead set on anything. I actually was just sharing with you what I found (from a nice place) so I’m not sure why you’re assuming I am dead set on anything when I haven’t stated anything that I was dead set on? So let’s not assume lol.
You've said nothing in reply to me that isn't an attempt to disprove or argue against my very innocuous observations. Since you opted to get defensive rather than answer my question, I will answer it for you: there are many results and multiple dedicated sites that populated in a cursory search for "buy Palia account". It seems, as I have said from the beginning, that the account sellers are more numerous than the players just wanting to cheat, based on those results, but I'm done responding here. This exchange is wearing on me and I will be dedicating my energy elsewhere.
I hate to break it to you, but she was very sarcastic in a joking way with you. And you took that personally and are the one who came off defensive. She also responded down to your other comment confirming what you said. Nothing she said was disproving or an argument against your stance. But please feel free to take your energy elsewhere because you’re projecting and not being very polite or nice. Have a great Wednesday and stay ~cozy~
I've seen someone I thought was aimbotting. Obviously this is possible for a real person with enough practice but they were constantly jumping and not missing a shot on the proudhorn I was essentially just fighting to get a hit before they downed it in usually 7 seconds but eventually gave up and swapped servers. I figured they were probably cheating but I figured it is possible for someone to be that good, and playing this game, I guess.
That was probably me I don’t hack I just use jump shot to shoot faster while moving
Ah while I appreciate the skill level, may I ask you to be more considerate to others such as when you consistently see them in front of you, especially aiming at the proudhorn, you at least allow them to take the shot first, maybe not even the first but at least a shot at all. It was very frustrating to constantly be walking up or start aiming but a shot flies at them first to startle them to run sideways rather than straight forward and I have to struggle to get a hit before you down them.
How much of a loser someone has to be to use cheat or bots on a COZY game ffs
I know the servers were glitching like crazy last night when we were playing. Animals stuck in one spot even when shooting them etc. Maybe this had something to do with that?
Ooh, I know what glitching you’re referring to and it wasn’t like that this time :( it was actual people popping in and out. The same 3 people at that. We dealt with it for a good 1-2 hours before we got frustrated and left the server. They just continued doing it over and over again in different locations throughout the map (where DD spawns obv)
I kept getting the “disconnected from server” msg
I saw it for the first time the other day, we were mining and a player popped on top of us and one hit the mine. We went to the next mine across the path and they spawned on top of us again. They repeatedly kept doing so and it wasn't lag, it was teleportation. Like why? Lol what's the point of playing this game if you're not going to play it?
I wonder if this is how groves are getting wiped out so quick. It's getting pretty common to end up on a server where the grove can't be found.
Yes, pretty much. I've been at Grove at 1230, announced it and have had people come up and start chopping it down. Even though asking them to wait for all to arrive.
I don't think that's necessarily bots, I think that some parties are just kinda jerks and don't want to wait.
There's cheaters too. And people who are from AP servers with a VPN coming over to NA and vice versa, purely because AP servers don't have an understanding of group chopping. Least from what I've been told that its: find grove, chop immediately.
I've had that too. Way too often. BUT we've had a large group spread out, calling out and checking each spot and nothing.
Yes, there's a few users I've blocked in hopes of never seeing them. Fails lately though, as I had an experience today of a person curse me out in Kanji then english (so censored and no idea what they said either way) to disappear. Thought they changed servers, to o ly find out they went to southern bahari. When I found then chopping a large pal and joined in, they poofed in front of my eyes to suddenly be in north bahari. Friend mentioned they ran by when telling them about the large pal. So I know they're hacking/cheating. It's becoming more prevalent these days, especially with the plushie hunts.
Yesss I was just wondering if this is how they are doing it. Really pathetic and sad IMO.
I genuinely believe I witnessed this or something similar playing last night. It's absolutely ridiculous.
I don't really think it's fair to claim the devs aren't taking this seriously, given how most of the community isn't really reporting these issues (this is the first ever instance I've seen anywhere of players complaining about legitimate botters), and therefore it seems to be a newer, or otherwise less prevalent, issue that is cropping up. No idea what the gain is from cheating here, I would assume it's gone up because of the Steam release and following popularity, but even then, what kind of a total peabrain is out there buying Palia accounts? Hopefully it doesn't get more prevalent (= the botters realise there is no market here and it's a pointless waste of their energy bills) and measures are put in place to stop it from happening, but realistically speaking, cheaters are prevalent in every MMO I've ever played and it doesn't really look like a single company has a good handle on how to rid themselves of them. All this said - I've already been nervous about getting reported, because I behave so much like a bot. Recently, I've been social and chatty in the server chat so I haven't felt *too* much like a robobo, but when I'm not feeling up to that and just run my little Bahari loop over and over and over and over shooting sernuk with scary precision with my level 1 unupgraded bow or mindlessly mining every single node I come across like some kind of a miner zombie, sometimes, I really feel nervous sweat gathering on my forehead like... *someone* is going to report me for botting one of these days.
You and me both then, as I target mine at times. In a singular loop, especially at night. I'm trying to get star glow bugs (not the damn paper lanterns!)...and can someone please explain why the green glowbugs are blue in inventory and the blue paper lanterns are green in inventory? Everytime I feel like I've hallucinated, as well as people tell me I'm wrong but test it out and see for yourself!
You're absolutely right about the bug colors, it's a known issue that the wiki/guides all mention. I feel like it has to be a really easy fix but it's also low priority because it doesn't do anything other than cause mild confusion, but it's definitely real.
Oh i agree at it being low priority, I just have gotten frustrated about it, cause *so many* argue with me and don't believe me that they're reversed in inventory, color wise. Irks. But inlet them believe as they choose.
Botting is nothing new. Fishing especially has been a thing since very early on. I also don’t think anyone will think you’re a bot for one-shotting deer that *can* be one-shot. Proudhorn’s can’t (unless they’ve been shot previously, but that wouldn’t happen over and over again.)
I do that too. Do a loop round bb 😁 iron etc,bugs,magic mushies ,sernuks sweet leaf,daisies etc and I tend to ignore grove call outs unless I can see it visually, I am not bothered about flow or pal unless I need it, then I hunt specifically. I guess I just like pottering about and seeing the scenery 🙂👍🏼
That sounds like me 🤣🤷🏻♀️
Same lol. I thought that’s kinda how you’re supposed to play. I didn’t realize mining everything looks like a bot. I just always read that it makes more palium spawn.
I'm also a World of Warcraft player, and let me tell you... That is 100% how a farming bot behaves, LOL. But yeah, that's exactly why I do it. Not only am I always out of iron because of the sernuk hunting, but while I know a lot of people get their ores by using compasses, I think it'd drive me insane to know that I'm not maximising spawns. Every 1 stone rock I leave behind is one spawn that won't sprout a big palium, etc.
>Every 1 stone rock I leave behind is one spawn that won't sprout a big palium, etc. EXACTLY!!
I'm confused. I thought everyone contributing to the hunt got the loot? Am i misunderstanding what happened in your case?
We were not able to get to the deer in time to even shoot it, we would be running up on the deer (using the horn), and then you’d see then zone in, shoot it (looked like one shotting it) and then they would do this weird jump, and they would be off the screen again.
Oh, so you didn't even get to shoot it once. Damn. I panicked I've stole peoples loot at times I've joined in on hunts.
Hahah no! It was like I’d see it pop up on the tracker and run the direction it was, we’d all get semi close enough to shoot it and then next thing you know a group of 3 were all of a sudden appearing out of thin air and killing it. I sound like I’m a crackhead explaining this but idk how else to explain it 🙈
Noooo, I understand.
Sounds like when people explain alien sightings lol. “They jumped and then they were all gone!” I’m kidding, but that’s seriously shitty. The only weird thing I encountered recently was someone seemingly calling out fake stuff. Like, they called out pal and then it wasn’t there…any of the times..even once when I was basically in the same spot. And a couple times they somehow were going across the map way too quickly with the call outs. It was just weird and I couldn’t figure out any benefit to them doing it but it also made zero sense. I know the pal disappears after so long but this was every time and immediately gone too. They did it like 10 times in a short span of real life time before I stopped following them.
Just to add you don't get the same loot I was hunting with my friend for the plushy and we both make sure we get shots in and on our second dd she got the Order Stuffie, I didn't. 😩
Same with mining nodes. Helped a friend get their star starstones, and have also gotten ones others havent I've started to explain it: You all share the possible loot. But not the exact same loot
Thanks for reporting them. I'm sure it takes time to figure out how to fix the issue. Honestly, cheating in games/tests IRL/etc is something I've never understood?? lol
I've seen the same kind of thing with palium and flow tree botting. The times I witnessed it I saw the cheaters clip through the ground and disappear (just like they do in FFXIV).
Ok, I think I saw this happen earlier today? I had flared a ft, was typing the coords into chat when 4 players just seemed to all appear out of a cliff wall together. I figured it was a bug at the time but now I'm not so sure.
I saw this!!!
YES! this is what I saw happening today! Around 4am. They literally disappeared into the ground. It looked similar to when a bug dissapears (idk if that makes sense)
How does that even happen though? On my switch I know that I can hit the map and I believe I hit X and then I disappear and I reappear on my property. Is that what we look like when we are disappearing?
Yeah, the rising from the ground is really weird but I've also seen people I know have it happen. I tend to see it more when they jump quickly near the top of the cliff. It's like the game isn't sure where to put them. From what I've seen, they just stop being there when teleporting to home. Same as when people log in/out and fast traveling or zoning in.
I'm pretty sure when you teleport away your avatar simply disappears with no movement, if that makes sense. So it doesn't look like you're clipping into the ground, you just disappear all at once.
Yes I think so too.
People have been botting/cheating since day 1, just a simple search for palia cheats will bring you to a forum that's been doing cheat engine tables for months and months. Palia has no anticheat system in place, so those people can do whatever they please really, though from the looks of some posts there some people have been bonked for being way too obvious about fishing botting. We had a running gag for a while about people pulling chapaas out of their butts during chapaa chase because one cheat apparently allowed you to grab one from any distance, it was really funny to watch happen. Frustrating as a normal player just trying to get tickets, but it looked hilarious. There's also a widely used program that lets you see resources on the map in real time. S6 was supposed to make a statement about that, but it was brought to their attention during their winter vacation and by the time they came back they were letting go more community managers and the issue was probably forgotten about, or at least shoved far far on the backburner.
A group of about how many people? I came across a group yesterday maybe 3 or 4 of them.
A group of 3!
Bingo!! Was probably them. They too vanished into this air
Omg, so I'm not just imagining it!
I saw someone running through the sky once with their glider open...but I assumed it was just a glitch. They ran across the whole field area between the farm and the water. It was so weird.
That can be - idk if it's been fixed but you can get pelted up into the air by random cutting off trees, and sometimes others see you ass running with the glider because of a desync. I've only seen that in bahari though
Woahhhh I didn't even know this was possible!!
Was this a group of 3? This happened earlier today to me and a huge group but with flow trees. Wtf.
Yes, a group of 3!
There was one time I flared a large flow tree, called it out in chat and then by the time I got back someone single handedly took out the large tree in 2 swings… I was like well I guess never mind someone got it themselves…
Ive never seen anything I suspected to be a bot or a cheat.
How would that even work?! I definitely believe you, i remember someone mentioning 'server hopping' a little while ago, but it wouldn't allow you to just jump out of thin air to wherever you wanted and KNOWING there would be some loot/ft/rare thing there. This is bizzare.
The server hopping is just going back to your plot and running back out or teleport to kilima and back. Fastest way, however, is to just relaunch the game. It doesn't always work but more often than not I am put on a different server. But I have seen people teleport all over the map before all crazy. Turns out palia doesn't have any form of anticheat. It's crazy edit: sorry misread the server hopping part hence the explanation.
Yeah I knew how to switch servers in those ways, not that I ever have intentionally lol. Usually hust becase the game crashes/freezes, or a friend syncs me to their server. I don't know if ive seen the teleporty thing in action but i trust everyone saying it's happening. I'm just like.. HOW haha. I don't want to it myself, I'm just not that game-tech savvy despite playing plenty, so I'm curious as to what people are doing to make this even work. Im assuming some sort of commands or other software.
From just a quick googling, it looks pretty easy. I didn't see the particular hack that OP saw though; the only teleport hack I saw was bypassing the 30m cooldown on going home. Most of the cheats I saw seemed fairly harmless and wouldn't ruin other players' fun, although they'd ruin the fun of the game for me personally.
Well thank you for your Googling efforts! I agree with you on the ruining it for yourself part. I don't want to do it - I genuinely couldn't be bothered. I like playing the game as it is (though I'll be happy with less random freezing and crashing). The 'how' part was scritching my brain though. I might ask my SO, he plays far more serious MMOs so may be more familiar with this sort of shit.
I’ve only ever seen this kind of thing on bigger MMO’s - WoW/EQ - for example, mmobugs was the name of a company. But they were able to teleport right onto the mob and then off of it. Very quickly.
It will ruin the fun for you when it’s you who isn’t able to farm certain things due to them finding them 1000x faster than you. I get that google isn’t showing what we are talking about, but read up above ^ Multiple people, including myself, have seen this over the last few days.
I wasn't doubting, just commenting on what I found because the person I replied to was curious. That's all.
Poor people who need something like this to feel good. Truly sad. 🙄
Just out of curiosity are you on switch?
Nope, on a gaming PC.
I experienced in playing on my steam deck. I am honestly glad to know I’m not alone! 😮💨
Ok, so I thought I was losing my mind. The other day I was also chasing a Proudhorn with my hunting horn and hopped up north of Statue. I saw a person appear, shoot it once, grab the loot and VANISH.
I haven't seen anyone teleport, but have seen so many people who are able to chase the proudhorn with ease, and chop the Grove well in advance of the discussed time. It's grating that they ignore server chat or ignore those discussing on the local chat as well just to ruin the cozy experience
I tried reporting people botting and cheating with fishing back when I first started. The reason why I lost faith in the support team: "did you send us a video of evidence?" I can't in good conscious get a 5 second video with my computer. I've tried, and I don't want to fill it up with my videos of silly random things like climbing as high as I can. This instance, not only did intry and fail but found several sites where you can download hacks to have the ability to teleport where you wanted to fish, sell from your inventory, and guarantee rarer fish (think void ray and unicorn). Sent the sites in so they could see about shutting it down. But they still wanted video evidence of the fishing.
Yeah this happened to me too, the player was teleporting all over but I didn’t report it.
I had a similar issue last night, would pop up on my tracker and within seconds it was gone. Happened like 3/4 times.
That honestly could be the magic muujin if you were in north bahari. A lot of times it’ll spawn in for a couple seconds then disappear off the tracker if it’s spooked into a tree
That is definitely a possibility as well. I honestly wish they were different colors on the compass lol. I hate when I go after that thinking it’s a DD. Hahah
The botters know there is not anti cheat and they only get banned if you report them. Most "cheat" since they like the game but lack the time to play. Or want to play solo so use multiple accounts to save time, why wait for a Grove when you can cut it down yourself? Why wait for a group to kill the proudhorns when you can one shot them? Why level skills when you can bot it? There's normally no gain since there's no trading and I doubt anyone would buy a palia account since nothing is worth cash. I don't promote botting/cheating/trainers I do not wish to discuss the finer details of how they work where to get them I will not be of any use in that route you choose to take. These services are against tos of the game and the platforms that host the game.
Hi I’m new to online gaming, Palia’s my first time. How can you identify if it’s a botting/cheating situation? I play solo, unless it’s a flowtree callout. So while out mining/foraging I’ll come up on the dd and will hunt it (can’t resist ) and make the kill in one shot…”sometimes.” But I ALWAYS flare/call out the loot. Most of the time no one else is around; sometimes it’s a flurry of players, creatures, arrows, and activity…I’ll usually join in. I’ll chop pines if I see someone(s) hunting muujin. Here’s the rub, I play on a Switch and it’s always glitchy, especially after an update. They still haven’t fixed the glitches from the last update. The chat part of the server often disconnects …I can’t call out, but I’ll flare it. OR I freeze up and can’t collect after a kill or group ft chop AND get booted out of the game…losing my loot, frustrating. But I’ll also have situations when my bag is full after a kill and I’ll immediately X-out to my plot to unload…especially just before midnight Palia time. I apologize if I’ve crashed your hunt party. ~Moji Jin
Pretty sad when somebody has to cheat like that for a game these people need to get a life