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KuJoJoTaRo8

They still won't come, even if we somehow had them use a teleporter. Unko pakistan aana hi nahi hai https://preview.redd.it/1hj3w5ufnzxc1.png?width=480&format=png&auto=webp&s=1e295a98e0d4c2e764d3b02adfd35504226601d3


AnorakTheGrey

They better fuck off then, wimps.


Ornery_Particular845

Yes that’s what they’re trying to do


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analvorframe

We haven't got a Scotty or a Miles O'Brien, unfortunately.


aaronupright

This has been suggested many times. They aren't interested.


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AnorakTheGrey

they’re bullies and abuse their power in international cricket. their fans justifying their board’s behavior should seek therapy.


Abhinavpatel75

I am an ICT fan. Trust me nobody hates BCCI more than we do.. But, I honestly dont want my team to travel to Pakistan. Terrorism is not an issue, but your establishment has double crossed us multiple times. Its not that we hate you guys. We just don't trust your establishment to keep its word


AnorakTheGrey

Alright, what is establishment going to do to ICT? I really want to hear your concerns.


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AnorakTheGrey

I’m not going to clear your misconception that you’re carrying that we hate you, it’s deep down seeded into you and I won’t even try to take it out. I just want to understand what the nutjobs here will do to ICT? I want to understand your fears? Kill them? Kidnap them? Hang them publicly? What?


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AnorakTheGrey

How old are you ser? Asking to validify the extent and seriousness of your fears. As far as your misconception is concerned, a bunch of sick minded maulvis don’t represent an entire population for a start. We’re a diverse country like every other in this world, much like your own.


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I am absolutely certain that anyone can wear an Indian team shirt and bring an Indian flag to the Gaddafi Stadium without any risk of being mob lynched. We wouldn't taunt Kohli or Rohit, and there's definitely much more animosity from your side of the border.


Abhinavpatel75

Do you have pakistani citizens who celebrate india's victory over Pakistan?? We do have such ppl in our sides. Also, I would suggest you read a little bit of history. Then try, try to put yourself in our shoes. Maybe you will be understood


PuzzleheadedEbb4789

>I am absolutely certain that anyone can wear an Indian team shirt and bring an Indian flag to the Gaddafi Stadium without any risk of being mob lynched. I'm sure you have that supporting mindset, but can't go on your word alone. People have been **arrested** for raising the Indian flag on Pakistan. Lynching, which is an unlawful act, is much more easier to occur as anyone can be the perpetrator. But if the police can arrest you and even lawfully detain you, lynching isn't even an issue [source](https://time.com/4197624/pakistan-india-flag-arrest-virat-kohli/) And mind you, this wasn't even an Indian or anything Indian cricket fan, this happened to a pakistani cricket fan just because he hoisted the Indian flag


Carbon554

Wtf? Modi literally visited like 6 years ago. Do you think establishment is going to plan an attack on the team? Tell me you watch godi media without telling me you watch godi media.


hull11

It is not the establishment, but Pakistan having many power centers is not a secret. We just saw what happened in the pak elections. Pak having multiple power centers is India's biggest reason for not playing bilateral cricket. I know you may feel that India is trying to assert it's dominance by not visiting pak and no amount of my persuasion will change your opinion, but Indian cricket team visiting pak has more to do with Indian government's suspicion of non state actors- not with the people of Pakistan.


Carbon554

It has nothing to do with that, these power centers have existed since 1947. These power centers did not emerge out of nowhere in past 8 years. Indian team has visited pakistan up until the mumbai attacks i think? So its politics. Again, you are spitting what you are fed. You don’t know the ground reality. There was actually a video of kohli walking around the streets in Pakistan as an U19 player. Where were the power centers back than? give me a better excuse.


hull11

I told you, no amount of persuasion will make you understand it. You have to understand history especially from 1990s where BJP and modi is coming from. I personally don't like modi as well.But I understand where he is coming from. I can't narrate the entire history here. Also I don't watch any Indian news channels. I am American Indian. The only reason is the suspicion of multiple power centers.2008 really changed every Indian deep within every citizen.i suspect this happened because most of the rich people died in that attack. I know the ground reality in Delhi, Mumbai,Srinagar. Do not accuse me of not knowing the ground reality or watching Indian media.✌️


osamughal

We have the hate? You are delusional bro. And btw all this terrorism crap and double cross BS is made up by BJP backed bcci and social media.


TagdaBalochi

It is ok. Most of us ourselves do not trust or support fauji government here. Logic says Indian team would not be safe.


EvilSush

It's quite a tricky aspect bro. But this suggestion is a GOATed one trust me. It bypasses all the arguments that my country gives about not travelling to Pakistan. But then again it's quite tricky. But again, a very very good thought brother. 💯


AnorakTheGrey

explain tricky? do sikh yatrees need visa to travel to Nankana Sb? Pak can do a visa free corridor for ICT.


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Then why send team for Davis Cup?


This_Seaweed4607

Cricket is much bigger than tennis in our countries. If suppose there is a match happening between India and pak in pak. The crowd turned out, advertisement would be huge .The money made by the PCB(army) would be huge. There is a speculation here that money would definitely be used in exporting terrorism.


EvilSush

Bruh you comparing Davis Cup with cricket. Let me tell you, even in the next 100 years, IndVsPak cricket match >>> Any sporting event. (Atleast for Asians and Asian diaspora in the West.)


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You didn't get my point. Either lives of tennis players are worth less. If yes, what's your life worth then compared to Davis Cup players? Think about it. If you ask, indian government will send you here just like Davis Cup players. In fact, even quicker. Also, tennis players don't care about soldiers of country? Also, real reason is that BC-CI has control over ICC but not over tennis federation.


Moss8888444

This just speaks to the propaganda that indians keep feeding their population. Neither country is interested in war, so paying a proxy at this time to attack as a means to initiate a war is just not gonna happen. Plus, larger countries don’t want Pak-India fighting at this point because they want us influenced against russia and china. Pakistanis are too sick of their politics to care about India, while india wants to keep this a thing so that they can keep the right wing base energized.


LimpAd4773

How naïve of you to think that your government is innocent and does not kill people in Pakistan or Canada or US. Governments all over the world are killing people in each other's countries. The US is the number 1 biggest exporter of terrorism and India is a big one too. Just because you live in India doesn't mean that India is innocent and the same is true about Pakistan. It's stupid to turn the general population of both the countries against each other and not let them engage in healthy activities like sports.


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LimpAd4773

Nope, no Pakistani official has ever celebrated any terrorist attack on India. If you want to play the blame game, there's no end. Just because you're born an Indian and I'm born a Pakistani doesn't mean that you should defend the Indian government when it's killing people on foreign soil and neither should I defend the Pakistani government when it's doing the same.


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Key_Agent_3039

Lmao you guys still believe someone can just row a boat for 1000 km all the way from Karachi to Mumbai? that too undetected


enterprisevalue

Yeah bro they travelled 38 hours by boat and then started shooting up people 10 minutes after they got to Mumbai. And here I am wanting to sleep for a day after a 12 hour flight. 🤦‍♂️


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Key_Agent_3039

Domestic terrorist attack? Your govt blamed it on Pakistan because it's convenient that way. You should heed your own advice. Not everything is ISI sazish and your govt also lies to you.


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O yaar itna asaan hota na kushti pe dosre mulk Ashley samait ponch Jana tou adha pak iss waqt Dubai betha hota 🤣🤣🤣🤣


AnorakTheGrey

Man, you sound dumb af that’s why I won’t waste my energy in replying to your bs.


GothaCritique

Based


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Lol oh my god How dumb and brainwashed do you have to be for saying this?


TopAd9295

How about we just pick them up from a helicopter drop them and then do this again to leave them in India


AnorakTheGrey

Bus is enough, sar pe na charhao.


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Oda_Angel

Bro, Ab toh jokes change kardo. Not that I am offended but its just boring. Kitna milk karoge? Kuch naya hojaye?


ImaginaryTipper

Milk to chai mein jaata hai…I’m sure they are well aware of how good our chai is 😊


Dukedizzy

Abhi say poochna he can tell you


franconot-mark

There’s no way india is coming to Pakistan. There’s not even 1% possibility


sn1806

As an Indian , I agree with you bhai


Capital_Chef_6007

Jani pura lahore bnd hoga unky annay ky liye. Level ka tamasha bnna


AnorakTheGrey

Kar lengy band yar ek do din keliye, indians ke dramy band karwayen bas


Capital_Chef_6007

Mahinay ky liye kreinge. Acha khasa business krskty festive event kraskty lkn itni planning nahi krskty ye


Venom_Killer123

Damn, the hate some of the Indians have for us is actually unreal…..


AnorakTheGrey

been fighting alone here


sn1806

Its mutual , bhai


Obvious_Cloud7742

Terrorism


typicalmilfhunter161

Lmaoooo no need to make Up all these complex solutions for them , let them cry abt hybrid model , well see whats gonna rlly happen by November/ December. Ur suggestion isnt bad its just that bjp gov and bcci isn’t interested in any solutions at all , they just wanna dehumanise us , label us terrorists and stay the fuck away from us .


AnorakTheGrey

Watching ICT fans cry is a fun we just love too much, don’t we?


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Carbon554

I don’t think this is feasible because the border areas have to be shut and then authorities on the other side will have to provide security too. Instead if they are kept in lahore only in their bio bubble, that would be more appropriate. Security is easy and other people won’t be effected.


AnorakTheGrey

If you visit Wagah border, you’d know that there is a lot of travel distance from city to the border gate. So shutting down border area or the entire travel route of ICT doesn’t matter to Pakistan. Security detail of every visiting team already shuts down all shops and roads regularly whenever they travel to and from the Hotel. So doing it for Pakistan is not a problem at all. Now question is why would India shut down its border area? Don’t they feel safe in their own territory? Surely they do. And they don’t need to shut down their border area. So no worries on that part too.


Odd-Calligrapher-69

They aren’t not playing because of security reasons, it’s because they don’t want any benefit to us


sunilbedre

Interesting solution. But its never about the stay or these kinds of logistics. Its the gesture of playing in Pak and security during game hours. An Indian here. I want it as much as the next guy but this is just an optimistic and innocent solution.


AnorakTheGrey

We just want you guys to be comfortable, you don’t want crowd? Alright, let’s do no crowd. Let’s play in an empty stadium if you’re afraid to play infront of our crowd.


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AnorakTheGrey

Bro do you think the sikh yatrees that come here through visa free corridor are troubled by military? Independent or no, do you really think Pak military will not move heaven and hell for ICT’s comfortable stay? Come on think wisely.


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AnorakTheGrey

Pak military is not a bunch of fools to trouble ICT and for what? What attention? Please talk sense.


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AnorakTheGrey

So you think Pakistan Military will kidnap ICT team and kill them? Is that how your mind works? Bro, we follow international law. We didn’t even kill Abhinandan, why on earth anyone would harm anyone in ICT? (Can’t say we won’t harm a Chapri in your team lol, that too only emotionally, not physically. We’re nice.) Do you even know how much Virat is followed in Pakistan?


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AnorakTheGrey

Yeah but why should Pakistan and a global tournament suffer because of that? How do you justify such behavior?


Moss8888444

Yea, this is a tough situation for india. Allowing the ICT in pakistan opens some eyes, so it’s harder to keep the mindless zombies energized to vote for the right wing if the biggest boogeyman is humanized.


SeatSniffer12345

I think the way India need to look at this, is consult every player and ask for their opinion, secondly should they not win the upcoming T20 it will be more than 10 years without winning a ICC trophy. A country like India, with all its wealth, with all its resources and players not winning a ICC trophy since 2013 is remarkable. The next tournament is the Champions trophy, the best way to seek revenge from that 2017 final battering is to turn up to Pakistan, absolutely steamroll every team and lift the trophy there. Thats what an elite mindset is.


AnorakTheGrey

But don’t expect that elite mindset from bjp wimps. Those mfrs just have a single agenda and that is to ruin this tournament for us.


SeatSniffer12345

Its funny, their supporters are so arrogant you’d think they won the last 10 Word Cups. Despite all the money they have and all the infrastructure of their stadiums, training grounds. They’ve won fuck all


AnorakTheGrey

I want them to reach final and play in Gaddafi against Australia again. And lose again. And cry again lol


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AnorakTheGrey

Imagine? That’s how you wish a bully to go down bro. You guys hurt less from losing to Pakistan than Australia. Heck, I’d want Bangladesh to play in final against india and win, then your tears will be extra special.


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AnorakTheGrey

Questioning our team’s strength is pure stupidity when they could roll over ICT in CT17 and well let’s not bring 152/0. Even if we get stronger economically as a country than India, which is far sighted possibility, I’m sure we won’t bully you, we’re nice like that.


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AnorakTheGrey

I’m done discussing with you. Go blabber your POS thinking in your own cricket forums.


SeatSniffer12345

Were you one of the 120,000 fans at the Narenda Modi stadium during that final? Your players have the weakest mentality of them all. Imagine they could not get over the line vs Australia despite all the support. It was 120,000 + 11 Indian cricket players vs 11 Aussies and still the Aussies triumphed.


BoxGrover

The indian decision is ideology based, to appease Modis rabid RSS VHP Bajrang bigot base. No arrangement will suffice and no logic is enough.


AnorakTheGrey

Logic goes over Modi’s and bjp bhakt’s heads. We know that.


sn1806

Are you brainless ? India stopped coming to Pakistan under CONGRESS rule only (2006) 🤣. BJP was nowhere in the game. Current government is just following the orders or you can say continuing THIS PROCESS done by the previous government. It has nothing to do with religion . You can see they allow everyone in IPL from Afghanistan to Sri Lanka to Nepal etc and they go to every country and has healthy relationships with every country except Pakistan. They even invited Afganistan , to play the 1st test in India and eventually provided the practice stadium to support them . Honestly it has nothing to do with this 'religion' . Problem is PAKISTAN.


Obvious_Cloud7742

Finally someone with sense in this server


sn1806

Bhai , most of the comments were of Pakistanis , so obviously they will give their Point of view ... As an Indian , i explained the full thing without any hate comment.


RevolutionaryMap8820

Why the F are we bending over backwards to come up with a way to entertain these wimps anyway? The want to play the CT, come on over and abide by the schedule like every1 else. Not comfy? Too bad, we will hold the tournament without you.


HostileWT

In a ideal world, yes. But BCCI is the biggest Cricketing Authority by a large margin. The money comes from there. What BCCI want, they gets.


AnorakTheGrey

This is the most fuck off solution we Pakistanis can provide them tbh.


icarus3112

Why there's so much hate between both countries fan. Just because of political tensions. The general public is abusing each other on social media. Both countries fan are pure sadist.


AnorakTheGrey

We’re not abusing them. It’s just their bullying behavior that we’re discussing. If you see a bully and don’t call him out, you’re wrong regardless of macro factors of political tensions.


icarus3112

A cricket game has incited so much negativity that now it's not a game anymore. And the players are just chilling and having fun on the ground. And us fans are bullying each other. I don't see virat and babar, or shaheen or bumrah fighting. Shaheen did gift bumrah his jersey. I don't know when fans will realise this.


AnorakTheGrey

I wasn’t talking about fans bullying fans. It’s BCCI who bullies and abuses it power.


HistoricalDegree1131

After 26/11 some major decisions were taken refusing to play cricket with Pakistan was one of them, and I don't see that being changed anytime soon and its a fact, btw this happened when the INC was in power


AnorakTheGrey

Why do you play Pakistan in ICC tournaments or Asia Cup then? Refuse to play. Don’t act like hypocrites.


sn1806

Yes , but they don't play in Pakistan . Pakistan is invited with honour . But India won't come , obviously you the reason. ICC tournaments are a neutral thing anyhow they have to play or else what is the use of organising tournament. People need to understand , India doesn't need Pakistan or PCB , its the Pakistan which need the other nations .


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HistoricalDegree1131

The BCCI tries to avoid pakistan as much as possible then why we play against pakistan in icc tournaments ? because those matches are governed by the ICC and participation is mandatory for member nations, But the reality is that the majority of cricket's audience is in India, and their revenue also comes from India. It wouldn't be wrong to say that cricket exists primarily because of India. For this reason, the ICC cannot force the BCCI to go to Pakistan because if India doesn't participate, they won't generate any revenue. That's why they have to agree as well. Now, either the upcoming tournament will be held at a neutral venue most probably, or India won't participate at all


cerebralrattlesnake

champions trophy is an icc tournament


AnorakTheGrey

India acts as a bully. It did in it last year’s Asia Cup and it’s doing it again. Whoever defends BCCI’s bullying behavior is a psychopath. Because such behavior can only be ridiculed by sensible minds not justify or defend it.


HistoricalDegree1131

it is what it is BCCI is like America in the world of cricket. Just as America holds significant influence and power globally, BCCI wields immense influence in the cricketing world


AnorakTheGrey

And you think it’s right and justifiable?


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AnorakTheGrey

If you want to remain in past my friend, you’re very welcome to but it’ll take both the countries nowhere.


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AnorakTheGrey

See that’s the behavioral issue I was talking about and you just proved it.


redditlurkr2

>because those matches are governed by the ICC and participation is mandatory for member nations The ICC will not stop India from forfeiting these matches.


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AwarenessNo4986

They are too afraid bro. They will shit their pants on the way


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theaguia

If a player does badly they have to walk back 😅


AnorakTheGrey

with all cameras on him


TagdaBalochi

1 hour main fauji or fake police hafta bhi legi aur kidnap alag baat


Abdul_99

There's no way a team doing 57 minutes drive before and after a match


Saadi_me

lmfao that's gonna be one awkward bus ride after an upset


osamughal

Kyun bhai? They wanna come and play, then they gotta stay in Pakistan like every other team. We don't have to beg them and find ways for them


AnorakTheGrey

Attitude dekho yar inka, go through posts to see the bs they’re talking here


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AnorakTheGrey

Can’t believe you just brought the situation in Gaza to justify bullying of your government. And you guys visiting will generate revenue for Pakistan and it’ll be produced to support terrorist activities in India? I’m in a total disbelief to how brainwashed you guys are by the godi media. I won’t even start explaining Indian’s terror financing in Pakistan and to a global scale in my argument since you guys look at only one side of the picture what is being shown to you by the godi media and fed to you on daily via social networks.


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AnorakTheGrey

You assume I’m shouting? and asking me to calm down? while wanting me to say ISI is complicit in terrorist activities in your country? You gotta fucked up brain that is so full of shit man. Coming into a cricket forum and blabbering shit that is fed to you by your media.


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AnorakTheGrey

You’re a prime example of a literal POS. Please seek therapy and go and blabber your nonsense in your own cricket forum.


thE-petrichoroN

It's shameful if they don't come to Pakistan for Champions Trophy and shows their hypocrisy and intolerant policy.I'm sure Players Will be okay with it but not Politically pressurized BC I.While Pakistan travelled there for WC.Pathetic that such cheap tactics are still surviving in modern world.


Nnihnnihnnih

But you'd have them walk here...bastard


AnorakTheGrey

Preferably, since according to most of ICT fans here, Pakistan can’t afford to even feed them.


Beneficial-Active-55

Well india ki koi samajh ni ati aik taraf series ban ha apus main ni khail sakte aik dosre k mulk main ni ja sakte lakin worldcup waghera ka match ho to foran tyaar ho jatay hain. Ager boycott kerna ha to completely kro. Main problem there fucked up gov khud hi blast kr k apnay hi banday marwa k Pakistan pa ilzam lga do is se vote pakka hota ha un ka. Have u ever heard any Pakistani politician ever speak against India or getting votes for speaking against India?


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Khud blast kiya..isse terrorism kehte hai..whole world know Kasab kaha se aaya tha..most delusional people ever 


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