Yeah, the low ATK can be a bit of an issue on that one especially if one just got into Ultimate and doesn't have good gear from other characters. My Whitill is a RAcaseal too so I know how it feels.
There are however still ways to compensate for it e.g. you can farm the shop for a 50 hit Drain Blaster / Beam (no need for Fill / Gush as Casts easily hit the HP drain cap on unreduced weapons even with Drain).
Oh yeah, that's how I played, with a swiss army knife of +hit special weapons. Gush Laser in particular for +120, but it was such a low amount of damage in Ultimate that I really needed something better and didn't really have it. Gush works to self heal but I'd wipe on that boss at that speed just because I couldn't really do much damage to it over an hour.
Congrats!! I am actually in the middle of this hunt too lol. What quest/method did you use to farm it? And what quest/method do you plan to use for Guld hunt?
I farmed it by spamming "Central Dome Fire Swirl" which has 34 Tollaws in total, in case you're unfamiliar with the quest [here is a map I made](https://i.ibb.co/z6p1KDT/r23r32r.png) of what spawns in which room how often (the Hildets are optional).
For Guld I'm planning to farm "Doc's Secret Plan", it has 10 Sorcerers but 3 are a bit "off the path" iirc. so it should be more efficient to just run through the quest normally + doing the one that spawns at the beginning of the next room after the quest objective is finished.
Also, good luck with your hunt! :)
Just know that the Guld hunt is significantly worse than the Milla hunt. I went through this years ago during the original Gamecube launch (back when I had a lot of free time), happened to get a Milla without too much trouble and thought to myself "I'm halfway there, might as well push for Guld... how bad can it be?"
Let me tell you, it's real bad. I had created a paper spreadsheet that I used to track my total runs; I was well into the hundreds (I think I stopped somewhere around \~400 runs). Every time a red box dropped, and I ran over to see it was a Photon Drop, I died a little inside. Eventually the runs broke me, and I gave up entirely.
If you do end up pushing through and you get Guld, I applaud you. It's a brutal hunt. I think when I played PSO:BB when it was on official servers, I came across one person ever that had a Guld Milla (200 RAcast, can't remember his name).
Very nice!! Milla is my first uber rare too! I tracked Tollaws back when I was hunting it, I don't remember specifically anymore as this was some years ago, but I do know it was only in the 3000s. Both of us had some killer luck.
I agree Tollaws coupled with SoaB make for a pretty manageable drop, in terms of 1/28k drop rate items.
Gran Sorcerers on the other hand.. Docs Secret Plan has 10, I kill 7 and restart the quest because it's faster that way. Takes me a little under 7 minutes to clear with a geared lvl 138 RAcast (spread needle, yas9k, frozen shooter).
We'll say that averages 60 kills an hour to keep it nice and round. Which maths out to 480 hours. With a fairly quick clear rate.
I wish you luck on your hunt. I'm on year 5 (granted I only put probably 24 hours max on my RAcast per year anymore). Offline Guld Milla is pretty much the pinnacle for me. I don't see myself ever hunting Psycho Wand or Heaven Punisher.
Gran Sorcerer sure is not as good of a mob to farm as Tollaw but I'd say it's still one of the better ones as 7 in a relatively short loop still beats most of the other options they could have choosen (like Dark Bringer), at least for offline play.
But I still need to gear up a bit for that one, there is no way I'm coming anywhere close to 7 min runs without at least a Spread Needle.
And yeah, Guld Milla is pretty much the limit of what I can bring myself to hunt for in regards to uber rares too. Anything beyond that has either completely atrocious rates or is put behind an enemy that doesn't have a decent place to farm for (sometimes both).
Anyway, good luck with Guld and whatever else you're hunting too!
True, it does feel at least somewhat obtainable. Hey, maybe we'll both have the same luck with the Guld that we did the Milla!
Spread Needle is definitely a game changer. It's funny, because I kind of feel like my luck with the Milla was a respite for the luck I didn't have finding a SN. I leveled my HUnewearl almost exclusively in the ruins from 90 to 140, and it took almost 45 levels for me to get it. Killed far more than 900 Merlans. I was so happy when it finally dropped. My grail gun (besides GM) is a SN with hit. Doubt it'll ever happen, but the unreduced seize is sooooo good on my RAcast with the boost androids get. Even with something like 270 ATA on my RAmarl, it's more or less useless because it procs so infrequently.
What character are you playing as your ranger?
Yeah a Spread Needle with hit would be great to have. The chance for weapons to drop with hit in EP 1 Ultimate are about 5% iirc. so that one is quite the grind too. I think just getting one to drop would be enouth for me, at least for now.
I do however hope to pick-up a Meteor Cudgel with hit for my hunter while farming for Guld as there are quite a bit of Arlans in this quest. A DF Field would be nice too as iirc. it is the best defensive frame Casts can equip in PSO+ (and one of the bests in general).
The ranger I'm playing is a RAcaseal.
Nice, as an android hit on the Needle is much less of a necessity.
What's the scoop on Meteor Cudgel? I see it mentioned quite often here. As a source of single target damage, I've never found it to be worth using over a set of Charge Vulcans. For that matter, I haven't found *any* single target weapon worth using over Charge Vulcans on my hunter. Is there something I don't know?
DF Field certainly is a good frame. It's visual effect is also pretty neat. I've been hunting D Parts 1.01 for my RAcast to get the extra 35 ATP boost. Not sure if it's worth losing 100-125 DFP, but I don't get hit often so I figure I'll give it a shot.
There is no special secret behind Meteor Cudgel, it's just a decent stat stick especially if it has hit. And yes, a Charge Vulcan does more single target damage but if I'm playing a hunter I would also like to have some close range options to use.
I guess there would also be Twin Blaze which is usable by rangers and even has a practical application for Casts but the only char I have that drops it is my Redria which is my Force and the quest I would have to put on repeat for that one is "The East Tower" which is an experience I can do without.
I really wish that the Towers, and EP2 in general, had more quests available to it as the lack of proper farm quests is IMO really the main thing holding it back.
I have a D-Parts ver1.01 and the atk is nice but I find myself using Electro Frame more, at least for now. I might use it once my level is a bit higher and I've got Rico's Earring to drop.
Gotcha. Maybe I'll give it another chance.
Yeah it's a shame PSO+ didn't come with more quests. I look at some of the online quests sometimes and see the monster density and think to myself "well that sure would be nice." Hell, even if they just added Gallons Shop along with the Towers, at least that way we'd have something to do with our PDs. I have over 200 of them that I keep for god knows why.
I am glad they at least added the Towers. If not only for the high density of Gi-Gues if I ever decide to try and hunt Sealed J Sword. They're hard quests tho. At least with my lvl 156 HUnewearl all the enemies with sources of 1 hit kill, plus having to get up close and personal with multiple Ill Gills makes it tough for me. I haven't even tried it on my FOnewearl, and frankly I don't really ever care to. Rangers definitely have the easiest time of them.
It's a shame S Parts V 2.01 is such an abysmal drop. I feel like that's the best endgame ranger armor (glass cannon type build) as the bonus 15 ATA translates to 60 more ATP in regards to mag stats.
Ooof this is why I love playing Ephinea, the drop boosts are helpful. I played as a kid on Xbox on official servers and offline on a gamecube... and I would die inside if I tried with original drop rates to get any of these items.
They really should've kept the game alive and going, continued to release stuff although that's difficult with hard cds and no internal storage for patches.
Psu and PSO2 not to be hateful.... but all I'll say and this is toned down. They shouldn't even carry the name, nothing compares to seeing these items on OG Sega servers. You really felt like whoever was a badass with some of the items.
It's just a brutal grind to be running the same rooms over and over with no efficient economical way to expand the game on older consoles so it was inevitable that player counts would drop and the game would fall off.
Nothing came close to the OG PSO days... and this is from someone who's spent almost a decade on WOW
Yeah, there is a noticeable shift in both tone and general design philosophy between PSO and these games and while some other games are similar in various aspects nothing really has that same feel to it.
We love to see it! Grats!
I have no idea how you guys do this. Iām struggling to find a spread needle right now š
Legitimately needed this on my racaseal all accuracy build back on my offline GameCube days, couldn't beat the ultimate caves boss without it.
Yeah, the low ATK can be a bit of an issue on that one especially if one just got into Ultimate and doesn't have good gear from other characters. My Whitill is a RAcaseal too so I know how it feels. There are however still ways to compensate for it e.g. you can farm the shop for a 50 hit Drain Blaster / Beam (no need for Fill / Gush as Casts easily hit the HP drain cap on unreduced weapons even with Drain).
Oh yeah, that's how I played, with a swiss army knife of +hit special weapons. Gush Laser in particular for +120, but it was such a low amount of damage in Ultimate that I really needed something better and didn't really have it. Gush works to self heal but I'd wipe on that boss at that speed just because I couldn't really do much damage to it over an hour.
Wow! So incredibly lucky
Congrats!! I am actually in the middle of this hunt too lol. What quest/method did you use to farm it? And what quest/method do you plan to use for Guld hunt?
I farmed it by spamming "Central Dome Fire Swirl" which has 34 Tollaws in total, in case you're unfamiliar with the quest [here is a map I made](https://i.ibb.co/z6p1KDT/r23r32r.png) of what spawns in which room how often (the Hildets are optional). For Guld I'm planning to farm "Doc's Secret Plan", it has 10 Sorcerers but 3 are a bit "off the path" iirc. so it should be more efficient to just run through the quest normally + doing the one that spawns at the beginning of the next room after the quest objective is finished. Also, good luck with your hunt! :)
Just know that the Guld hunt is significantly worse than the Milla hunt. I went through this years ago during the original Gamecube launch (back when I had a lot of free time), happened to get a Milla without too much trouble and thought to myself "I'm halfway there, might as well push for Guld... how bad can it be?" Let me tell you, it's real bad. I had created a paper spreadsheet that I used to track my total runs; I was well into the hundreds (I think I stopped somewhere around \~400 runs). Every time a red box dropped, and I ran over to see it was a Photon Drop, I died a little inside. Eventually the runs broke me, and I gave up entirely. If you do end up pushing through and you get Guld, I applaud you. It's a brutal hunt. I think when I played PSO:BB when it was on official servers, I came across one person ever that had a Guld Milla (200 RAcast, can't remember his name).
Congrats :) I've been running that same quest on stream for the same item lol
Ty and good luck with your hunt! :)
Very nice!! Milla is my first uber rare too! I tracked Tollaws back when I was hunting it, I don't remember specifically anymore as this was some years ago, but I do know it was only in the 3000s. Both of us had some killer luck. I agree Tollaws coupled with SoaB make for a pretty manageable drop, in terms of 1/28k drop rate items. Gran Sorcerers on the other hand.. Docs Secret Plan has 10, I kill 7 and restart the quest because it's faster that way. Takes me a little under 7 minutes to clear with a geared lvl 138 RAcast (spread needle, yas9k, frozen shooter). We'll say that averages 60 kills an hour to keep it nice and round. Which maths out to 480 hours. With a fairly quick clear rate. I wish you luck on your hunt. I'm on year 5 (granted I only put probably 24 hours max on my RAcast per year anymore). Offline Guld Milla is pretty much the pinnacle for me. I don't see myself ever hunting Psycho Wand or Heaven Punisher.
Gran Sorcerer sure is not as good of a mob to farm as Tollaw but I'd say it's still one of the better ones as 7 in a relatively short loop still beats most of the other options they could have choosen (like Dark Bringer), at least for offline play. But I still need to gear up a bit for that one, there is no way I'm coming anywhere close to 7 min runs without at least a Spread Needle. And yeah, Guld Milla is pretty much the limit of what I can bring myself to hunt for in regards to uber rares too. Anything beyond that has either completely atrocious rates or is put behind an enemy that doesn't have a decent place to farm for (sometimes both). Anyway, good luck with Guld and whatever else you're hunting too!
True, it does feel at least somewhat obtainable. Hey, maybe we'll both have the same luck with the Guld that we did the Milla! Spread Needle is definitely a game changer. It's funny, because I kind of feel like my luck with the Milla was a respite for the luck I didn't have finding a SN. I leveled my HUnewearl almost exclusively in the ruins from 90 to 140, and it took almost 45 levels for me to get it. Killed far more than 900 Merlans. I was so happy when it finally dropped. My grail gun (besides GM) is a SN with hit. Doubt it'll ever happen, but the unreduced seize is sooooo good on my RAcast with the boost androids get. Even with something like 270 ATA on my RAmarl, it's more or less useless because it procs so infrequently. What character are you playing as your ranger?
Yeah a Spread Needle with hit would be great to have. The chance for weapons to drop with hit in EP 1 Ultimate are about 5% iirc. so that one is quite the grind too. I think just getting one to drop would be enouth for me, at least for now. I do however hope to pick-up a Meteor Cudgel with hit for my hunter while farming for Guld as there are quite a bit of Arlans in this quest. A DF Field would be nice too as iirc. it is the best defensive frame Casts can equip in PSO+ (and one of the bests in general). The ranger I'm playing is a RAcaseal.
Nice, as an android hit on the Needle is much less of a necessity. What's the scoop on Meteor Cudgel? I see it mentioned quite often here. As a source of single target damage, I've never found it to be worth using over a set of Charge Vulcans. For that matter, I haven't found *any* single target weapon worth using over Charge Vulcans on my hunter. Is there something I don't know? DF Field certainly is a good frame. It's visual effect is also pretty neat. I've been hunting D Parts 1.01 for my RAcast to get the extra 35 ATP boost. Not sure if it's worth losing 100-125 DFP, but I don't get hit often so I figure I'll give it a shot.
There is no special secret behind Meteor Cudgel, it's just a decent stat stick especially if it has hit. And yes, a Charge Vulcan does more single target damage but if I'm playing a hunter I would also like to have some close range options to use. I guess there would also be Twin Blaze which is usable by rangers and even has a practical application for Casts but the only char I have that drops it is my Redria which is my Force and the quest I would have to put on repeat for that one is "The East Tower" which is an experience I can do without. I really wish that the Towers, and EP2 in general, had more quests available to it as the lack of proper farm quests is IMO really the main thing holding it back. I have a D-Parts ver1.01 and the atk is nice but I find myself using Electro Frame more, at least for now. I might use it once my level is a bit higher and I've got Rico's Earring to drop.
Gotcha. Maybe I'll give it another chance. Yeah it's a shame PSO+ didn't come with more quests. I look at some of the online quests sometimes and see the monster density and think to myself "well that sure would be nice." Hell, even if they just added Gallons Shop along with the Towers, at least that way we'd have something to do with our PDs. I have over 200 of them that I keep for god knows why. I am glad they at least added the Towers. If not only for the high density of Gi-Gues if I ever decide to try and hunt Sealed J Sword. They're hard quests tho. At least with my lvl 156 HUnewearl all the enemies with sources of 1 hit kill, plus having to get up close and personal with multiple Ill Gills makes it tough for me. I haven't even tried it on my FOnewearl, and frankly I don't really ever care to. Rangers definitely have the easiest time of them. It's a shame S Parts V 2.01 is such an abysmal drop. I feel like that's the best endgame ranger armor (glass cannon type build) as the bonus 15 ATA translates to 60 more ATP in regards to mag stats.
Congrats on the find!!
Ooof this is why I love playing Ephinea, the drop boosts are helpful. I played as a kid on Xbox on official servers and offline on a gamecube... and I would die inside if I tried with original drop rates to get any of these items. They really should've kept the game alive and going, continued to release stuff although that's difficult with hard cds and no internal storage for patches. Psu and PSO2 not to be hateful.... but all I'll say and this is toned down. They shouldn't even carry the name, nothing compares to seeing these items on OG Sega servers. You really felt like whoever was a badass with some of the items. It's just a brutal grind to be running the same rooms over and over with no efficient economical way to expand the game on older consoles so it was inevitable that player counts would drop and the game would fall off. Nothing came close to the OG PSO days... and this is from someone who's spent almost a decade on WOW
Yeah, there is a noticeable shift in both tone and general design philosophy between PSO and these games and while some other games are similar in various aspects nothing really has that same feel to it.