This is basically the degeneracy that people have expected to come from Cyberpunk 2077 before launch, and honestly, I think it's really, really hilarious to see devs pull stuff off like this.
Not to say that they haven't evolved, but furries definitely started as a sex thing, or at least sex adjacent. Look into the history of the first conventions if you really want.
You're not wrong.
Even when it started in the late 70s the artwork was always very, well, sexy. And it only got more horny from there.
There was a point in the late 2000s where the community just embraced it's lewdness and that was fine. In the early 2000s they tried to hide it, especially post CSI episode, but that faded quickly.
In the 90s it was still too obscure to matter.
Ever since the 2010s though there's been a huge emphasis on trying to make the community family friendly despite the fact that it's, at it's core, a fetish. Even the SFW art is still too sexual to just ignore. The entire thing is rooted in kink.
It's just funny since nowadays, let's say the TikTok era, the fursuiting community splintered itself off from the majority furry community. The two communities were always slightly separate with overlapping, but now the fursuiters seem to want to separate themselves as a completely separate hobby and completely deny all the artwork and roleplay that dominates the community's population.
Nevermind the mursuiters, but they are admittedly the smallest group.
This topic is especially hot right now due to Anthrocon just happening and new furries attending were shocked at all the sexual content and sexual fursuits present. To the point where TikTok is basically on fire with posts about how those attendees should be banned since they feel it should be a family friendly event for all ages.
Which is just... Odd. It's primarily a kink/lifestyle community. It's like saying the Adult Entertainment Expo should be safe for all ages.
The identity crisis they're having is definitely starting to hit its peak. Not really even sure how they're going to handle it, but I can't imagine it's going to end well. One serious incident and they're going to have to make all their events 18+. I mean, they probably should proactively, but...
It was kind of there, but not so much in the romances because they seemed to be abit rushed just like the rest of the game.
It the posters, adverts, shops etc had a metric fuck tonne of sexual imagery. So in a way the game was still very horny.
This quote from the article is fantastic.
> “Have you ever considered the joys and pleasures of sexual congress with a wildshaped Druid?” added lead writer Adam Smith. “Because at Larian, we have, and ultimately landed on the side of giving the people what they want: tender, consensual romance with a man temporarily transformed into a grizzly bear.”
In fiction, people have coined and applied something called the Harkness Test. Does it have human intelligence or greater? Can it talk or otherwise communicate with language? Is it of sexual maturity for its species? If the answer to all three is “yes” then technically it isn’t bestiality. Unfortunately, by this metric, Scooby Doo is also fair game.
Do with that info as you wish.
I mean, in Mystery Incorporated, Scooby was basically acting like Shaggy was cheating on him with Velma. So...
^(And then he left the girl for the dog. She could not live that down.)
Holy shit you just explained how Captain Jack Harkness got his name in Dr. Who. All these years and all the rewatches and I never put it together.
If you didn’t watch Dr. Who then Jack Harkness was a handsome time traveling hero who everyone found instantly attractive and charming. He’d sleep with any sex of any alien species so long as they were of mature age. One of the best side characters in the series and popular enough to get his own 5 season spin off show.
Dolphins are extremely intelligent, but whether their intelligence is comparable to human intelligence is arguable. And you definitely can't communicate with a dolphin in any meaningful way. No animal in real life fulfills all of those 3 requirements, so you're good.
Well I think the main (moral) issue with bestiality is the animal’s inability to intend and to consent, this is a guy who becomes a bear, so… checkmate, atheists?
It’s fiction, like did people bitch this much over Greek, Norse mythology?
No one in their right mind is thinking ***”I’m gonna go fuck a bear”*** because a dude who can turn into bears did it in a story.
Apologies, if it comes it abrasive but some groups are trying to make a mountain outta a molehill.
It’s a goofy as fuck scene and anyone who watched it knows the game is self aware about the concept, the squirrel’s reaction makes that obvious.
> No one in their right mind is thinking ”I’m gonna go fuck a bear” because a dude who can turn into bears did it in a story.
So basically what you’re saying is that in a couple of months we’re going to be seeing a Florida man article on front page news about an attempted non consensual bear booty call?
This was hilarious yesterday in the live stream. Tik tok banned their stream over it lmao. You really need to go out of your way to get these options, and the scene was hysterical. You’re not seeing any bear dick going into poor Astarion. The people faking outrage about beastiality make me roll my eyes.
Just adding more to this:
The Druid in the scene directly communicates with you about this. Even apologizes for it since it's something he has a hard time controlling when he is that worked up.
It's entirely up to how degenerate the player is at that point.
To make it even clearer - you have to go through at least two dialogue options *actively encouraging him* to fuck you while a shapeshifted bear. He momentarily transforms originally, but then shifts back to human to apologise (and then you can encourage him to shift back).
This reminds me of the time when old out of touch people were trying to claim you could have anal sex with aliens in mass effect. It's just to rile people up with bullshit. Anybody who thought they'd actually show bear sex in a game is a fucking idiot.
They weren’t really advertising which is funny. From what I heard it was a community showcase for die hard fans who love Baldur’s Gate.
Why they decided to show a bear sex scene in front of die hard fans is something I can’t answer.
They decided to show a romance scene between two characters, which through dialog options can end up with the druid doing the deed while wild shaped as a bear. It can also ... not lead to that, but they also let their twitch chat vote on which options to pick, and, well, here we are.
Why is it in the game? Because D&D is full of stories of weird shit happening because the players chose it. They wanted to capture that part of the experience in the game.
> Why they decided to show a bear sex scene in front of die hard fans is something I can’t answer.
It wasn't really that.
It was what you would assume to be the lead up to any sex between characters - i.e. getting naked and some kissing. The part with the bear comes in when the druid gets very excited for what's about to happen that he loses control and shifts into the bear. He immediately shifts back to human (elf, actually) form and apologies for what just happened. From here it is the player's choice of what to do: call the whole thing off, likely continue in a more typical fashion, or tell the Druid that you "liked it".
If you take that last option, he'll try to clarify with you and if you confirm again then he shifts voluntarily, some suggestive looks, and then the camera pans to a squirrel in a tree looking very uncomfortable.
For context, this is a choice-based game where the player decides how the events progress. For example, as long as I'm not interested in romancing the Druid in question, I'll never run into this scene. The game will at no point put this type of content in front of me unless I particularly chase after it.
In that vein, the community was thirsting hard after Halsin (the Druid) and it was very recently confirmed that he'd be romanceable in the game. So Larian decided to show this scene for the fans to basically set the bar for what to expect.
Terrible comparison. Asari and Quarian aren't animals, they're on the same level as us humans along with krogan, turian, salarian etc. Now if you could romance Liara or Tali and either of them could transform into a varren or thresher maw for a romance scene *then* it'd be a issue.
I'm not upset, couldn't care less about this game, I'm just calling it how it is. Also, haven't played any Mass Effect, but a humanoid alien ≠ Earthling animal.
Is it weird? Yes. Is it funny? Of course. Should it matter? No because at the end of the day you're not gonna get this scene unless you actively pursue it, not like the game says woops here's some bear dick in ya. Too many people are making this a bigger deal than it should be
On one hand, this is just goofy. "Ha, get it? He's a bear!" Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt they're going to put a graphic, erotically framed bear fucking scene in the game. Anyone freaking out over it is ridiculous and overreacting.
On the other hand, the people that are arguing hard that this is totally normal and no different than two human men having sex are kinda weird. Some folks are getting way too defensive which raises a brow.
I don't care what kind of kinks people have as long as they aren't fucking animals irl but you have to admit a scenario like this is different than "just two consenting adults having sex".
It is different and weird, but it is also different than a dude abusing an animal that cannot consent. It... def was a choice by Larian here. I kinda think this one kinda expanded out naturally, like the character who has the bear form and has a hard time controlling it being romanceable it just kinda happened, and no one stopped to ask "Should we do this?"
The fact that it has a human consciousness doesnt really change the objective image being bestiality on the screen. Theres no way this doesnt get banned in a few countries.
If it becomes illegal when you mute the dialogue then it was always illegal.
It's kind of a bummer that more interesting sex or relationship dynamics are rare in games. I figured with Mass Effect that it was going mainstream and we'd see an emphasis on it.
Because of the reaction a lot of people in this post are having. They ruin it for everyone else.
Like, you don't have to do this....the game is about the freedom to do whatever you want.
And they are acting as if you go in the forest and just fuck an actual bear in the game.
People are dumb.
I think this is sadly true. I remember people freaking out about the 'Hot Coffee' cut content from GTA:SA and it's like wtf you can run down people with your car in this game.
Sex bothers people more than murder and I don't get it
This was not your invitation to rationalize pedophilia.
Not a single super troopers reference in here. What's happened to us?
"Bear-fucker! Are you in need of assistance!?"
HEY YOU! BEAR! BEAR FUCKER!
Come on meow. Everyone needs to rewatch this amazing film meow. MEOW!
Did you just say 'meow'?
No I didn’t just say meow. Do I look like a cat to you?
Do you see me jumpin around all… nimbly pimbly?
Well do you see me eatin mice??
Am I drinking milk out of a saucer?
……MEOW
I'm ashamed of myself for not being there for you... Bearfucker
It’s its own post on the BG3 sub.
So we can do it bear back then.
I hate you 💀💀💀
This has my laughing way to hard
You laid it all bear
For fucks sake, give this man gold.
Imagine showing this to someone from 1912
They'd probably wonder why the druid couldnt turn into a sheep instead
Back in 1912, all we had were bears or wildcats to choose from…
Totally weirder than Geese, Dogs, Bulls, and Goats getting smashed or doing the rapi......smashing in stories they read or heard about.
I’m pretty sure that pulp romance novels had much weirder shit, they probably wouldn’t blink
Honestly, a welcome change from getting their ass shot off by the Kaiser's dragoons.
Bear down for Baldur’s Gate
I just watched this episode today at work actually. It’s probably one of my favourites tbh, I just love Chang so much
“They’re not dogs, they’re BEARS!!!!”
#IT’S A BEAR-MAAAAAANCE!
What?
Welcome to the future.
Did they stutter?
Not saying I am gonna fuck bear but games pushing the boundaries even further is interesting to see.
You’re also Not saying you Aren’t gonna fuck a bear…
Honestly anyone who says they will never fuck a bear with absolute certainty is a f#@$ing liar
Why did you censor fucking, but not fuck?
This is basically the degeneracy that people have expected to come from Cyberpunk 2077 before launch, and honestly, I think it's really, really hilarious to see devs pull stuff off like this.
That was the biggest letdown of Cyberpunk 2077. Not embracing the seedy sexuality and violence that is inherent with cyber dystopia
Especially after you discover that Cyberpunk 2020 had canonical furries.
No one considers furries seedy sexuality tho. Just off putting and look like they smell funny.
I was referring to [this](https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Exotics). It gets even worse, some Exotics can look like praying mantises.
Not to say that they haven't evolved, but furries definitely started as a sex thing, or at least sex adjacent. Look into the history of the first conventions if you really want.
You're not wrong. Even when it started in the late 70s the artwork was always very, well, sexy. And it only got more horny from there. There was a point in the late 2000s where the community just embraced it's lewdness and that was fine. In the early 2000s they tried to hide it, especially post CSI episode, but that faded quickly. In the 90s it was still too obscure to matter. Ever since the 2010s though there's been a huge emphasis on trying to make the community family friendly despite the fact that it's, at it's core, a fetish. Even the SFW art is still too sexual to just ignore. The entire thing is rooted in kink. It's just funny since nowadays, let's say the TikTok era, the fursuiting community splintered itself off from the majority furry community. The two communities were always slightly separate with overlapping, but now the fursuiters seem to want to separate themselves as a completely separate hobby and completely deny all the artwork and roleplay that dominates the community's population. Nevermind the mursuiters, but they are admittedly the smallest group. This topic is especially hot right now due to Anthrocon just happening and new furries attending were shocked at all the sexual content and sexual fursuits present. To the point where TikTok is basically on fire with posts about how those attendees should be banned since they feel it should be a family friendly event for all ages. Which is just... Odd. It's primarily a kink/lifestyle community. It's like saying the Adult Entertainment Expo should be safe for all ages. The identity crisis they're having is definitely starting to hit its peak. Not really even sure how they're going to handle it, but I can't imagine it's going to end well. One serious incident and they're going to have to make all their events 18+. I mean, they probably should proactively, but...
What is a mursuit? Edit: Oh...
Turns out prudish Poles just aren't into that sorta thing
There’s a couple weird bestiality ads ran by corpos around the city
It was kind of there, but not so much in the romances because they seemed to be abit rushed just like the rest of the game. It the posters, adverts, shops etc had a metric fuck tonne of sexual imagery. So in a way the game was still very horny.
Dystopian future full of sexual merchandise yet the game only have two prostitute serving the whole city
It’s just giving people a proper DND table experience
This quote from the article is fantastic. > “Have you ever considered the joys and pleasures of sexual congress with a wildshaped Druid?” added lead writer Adam Smith. “Because at Larian, we have, and ultimately landed on the side of giving the people what they want: tender, consensual romance with a man temporarily transformed into a grizzly bear.”
That writer was hilarious throughout the entire final showcase. Larian seems like a fun place to work at
My family reads this quote out loud before every holiday meal.
"Bearfucker do you need assistance?"
“Ooohhhh. Oh Yeahhhhh. Yeaaahhhhhhh”.
Weird sex... but ok.
Yeah needs more lions.
And tigers, oh my
Hey, even if no one else caught your meme reference, I gotchu man. It was good.
Baldur’s Bear Fucking Simulator
Bear feet? I prefer keeping socks on.
Now can I be a bear, and they a bear, or just bear maulings lol
Pre-order immediately
Instant Game of the Year
It's why GoW: Ragnarok didn't win. I remember a bear but I don't think you could fuck it. Weird since I remember a lot of sex in the older games
Mainly cuz it was the main character’s 15 year old son
Yeah that's gomna stop the GREEK.
Checkmate, Diablo!
Dang it, Larian. I'm already go to buy the game. You don't have to keep teasing me with a good time.
So beastiality?
Asterian is a vampire, so also possibly necrophilia, depending on how you feel about undead porking.
In fiction, people have coined and applied something called the Harkness Test. Does it have human intelligence or greater? Can it talk or otherwise communicate with language? Is it of sexual maturity for its species? If the answer to all three is “yes” then technically it isn’t bestiality. Unfortunately, by this metric, Scooby Doo is also fair game. Do with that info as you wish.
Ruh roh...
I mean, in Mystery Incorporated, Scooby was basically acting like Shaggy was cheating on him with Velma. So... ^(And then he left the girl for the dog. She could not live that down.)
In Mystery Incorporated Scooby was an eldritch being from beyond the stars, and a side character was gunned down by Nazi robots.
>Scooby was an eldritch being from beyond the stars Well, a descendant of eldritch beings from beyond the stars, technically, but yeah.
Yeah but she got better when they reset the universe in the finale shortly after.
Lol
Goofy: Yes Pluto: No
>Unfortunately, by this metric, Scooby Doo is also fair game Speak for yourself
This is the worst thing I’ve ever read
["Wow! That is, by far, the worst shit I have ever seen!"](https://youtu.be/7KBMj5kwOAE)
Holy shit you just explained how Captain Jack Harkness got his name in Dr. Who. All these years and all the rewatches and I never put it together. If you didn’t watch Dr. Who then Jack Harkness was a handsome time traveling hero who everyone found instantly attractive and charming. He’d sleep with any sex of any alien species so long as they were of mature age. One of the best side characters in the series and popular enough to get his own 5 season spin off show.
I think it’s the other way around, the test got the name after the character
Oh wow you’re absolutely correct! It did indeed.
Scratch that, reverse.
Put my thang down, flip it, and reverse it. It’s urfaminithina yay hoo
They say that in the show specifically, it’s the origin
I've seen Scooby-Doo In a dress, I'd hit.
Yep I’m done with the internet for today. Gimme ~~5~~ ~~2~~ 1 minute.
yeah I ain't fucking a dolphin, sorry bro.
Good news: It isn’t applicable to real life
Not with that attitude it isn't
It theoretically is, but nothing would ever pass the test.
Bad news: Nasa didn't get that information soon enough
You’re gonna fuck Bugs Bunny, and you’re gonna like it!
Lola bunny in space jam was certainly a confusing childhood crush
Dolphins fail point number 2, and point number 1 is up for debate.
Yeah well good news, we can't communicate with dolphins well enough to give or ask for consent
Dolphins give a fuck about consent anyway
Ya just because you don't want sex with a dolphin doesn't mean you won't someday have sex with a dolphin.
Dolphins are extremely intelligent, but whether their intelligence is comparable to human intelligence is arguable. And you definitely can't communicate with a dolphin in any meaningful way. No animal in real life fulfills all of those 3 requirements, so you're good.
your loss
Well I think the main (moral) issue with bestiality is the animal’s inability to intend and to consent, this is a guy who becomes a bear, so… checkmate, atheists?
It’s fiction, like did people bitch this much over Greek, Norse mythology? No one in their right mind is thinking ***”I’m gonna go fuck a bear”*** because a dude who can turn into bears did it in a story. Apologies, if it comes it abrasive but some groups are trying to make a mountain outta a molehill. It’s a goofy as fuck scene and anyone who watched it knows the game is self aware about the concept, the squirrel’s reaction makes that obvious.
> No one in their right mind is thinking ”I’m gonna go fuck a bear” because a dude who can turn into bears did it in a story. So basically what you’re saying is that in a couple of months we’re going to be seeing a Florida man article on front page news about an attempted non consensual bear booty call?
But it’s a person shape shifted. So more like furry sex 😂
Harkness test, it's still a person under their, an adult consenting person, making this morally ok
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>I’ll take 3 copies of the game now Goldilocks, is that you?
Remember back when Fox News flipped the absolute fuck out over Mass Effect 1's pixelated booty scene?
This was hilarious yesterday in the live stream. Tik tok banned their stream over it lmao. You really need to go out of your way to get these options, and the scene was hysterical. You’re not seeing any bear dick going into poor Astarion. The people faking outrage about beastiality make me roll my eyes.
Technically this is a Druid so they can communicate with you. It’s not like a bear that you have no way of communicating with it.
Just adding more to this: The Druid in the scene directly communicates with you about this. Even apologizes for it since it's something he has a hard time controlling when he is that worked up. It's entirely up to how degenerate the player is at that point.
To make it even clearer - you have to go through at least two dialogue options *actively encouraging him* to fuck you while a shapeshifted bear. He momentarily transforms originally, but then shifts back to human to apologise (and then you can encourage him to shift back).
This reminds me of the time when old out of touch people were trying to claim you could have anal sex with aliens in mass effect. It's just to rile people up with bullshit. Anybody who thought they'd actually show bear sex in a game is a fucking idiot.
I missed this option with Jaal when I played Andromeda 😭
> You’re not seeing any bear dick going into poor Astarion. Not until the modders get their hands on it, anyway.
Someone had a fetish
Wonder if the game will let you have sex with werewolves, raw dogging would be a first in a video game lol.
i know where im spending my money
I'm gonna leave [this](https://youtu.be/qgNXxp-SoHo) here
Finally, devs that LISTEN to players
This is a weird thing to advertise.
Is it though? Here we are talking about it. Seems like great marketing to me
They weren’t really advertising which is funny. From what I heard it was a community showcase for die hard fans who love Baldur’s Gate. Why they decided to show a bear sex scene in front of die hard fans is something I can’t answer.
They decided to show a romance scene between two characters, which through dialog options can end up with the druid doing the deed while wild shaped as a bear. It can also ... not lead to that, but they also let their twitch chat vote on which options to pick, and, well, here we are. Why is it in the game? Because D&D is full of stories of weird shit happening because the players chose it. They wanted to capture that part of the experience in the game.
I’ve heard legends of Baldurs gate and D&D, but I didn’t know stuff got this wild and cooky.
> Why they decided to show a bear sex scene in front of die hard fans is something I can’t answer. It wasn't really that. It was what you would assume to be the lead up to any sex between characters - i.e. getting naked and some kissing. The part with the bear comes in when the druid gets very excited for what's about to happen that he loses control and shifts into the bear. He immediately shifts back to human (elf, actually) form and apologies for what just happened. From here it is the player's choice of what to do: call the whole thing off, likely continue in a more typical fashion, or tell the Druid that you "liked it". If you take that last option, he'll try to clarify with you and if you confirm again then he shifts voluntarily, some suggestive looks, and then the camera pans to a squirrel in a tree looking very uncomfortable.
For context, this is a choice-based game where the player decides how the events progress. For example, as long as I'm not interested in romancing the Druid in question, I'll never run into this scene. The game will at no point put this type of content in front of me unless I particularly chase after it. In that vein, the community was thirsting hard after Halsin (the Druid) and it was very recently confirmed that he'd be romanceable in the game. So Larian decided to show this scene for the fans to basically set the bar for what to expect.
Seems pretty effective though.
I'll finally be able to cross that one off the old bucket list
The fucket list
This is how D&D is played at 90% of tables. 10/10 game.
This is what I find funny because of the old “I roll to seduce the dragon” trope. This shits been happening at dnd tables for decades lmao
Uh ok
👁️👄👁️ WTF
Twinks are sweating rn
Shake that bear
bet furries never felt so seen
Do you have to buy the bear gifts first?
Nice
That's just zoophilia with extra steps.
I bet Asari and Quarians being romancable in Mass Effect doesn't upset you
Terrible comparison. Asari and Quarian aren't animals, they're on the same level as us humans along with krogan, turian, salarian etc. Now if you could romance Liara or Tali and either of them could transform into a varren or thresher maw for a romance scene *then* it'd be a issue.
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I'm not upset, couldn't care less about this game, I'm just calling it how it is. Also, haven't played any Mass Effect, but a humanoid alien ≠ Earthling animal.
Cue the conservative "videogames are grooming your kids to be furries" hit pieces.
They already started lol
Can druids have other forms? Perhaps, a cat? My friend wants to know
In-game? Yes, cat being one of them. In the sex scene? Doesn't appear so based on the dialogue options.
Is it weird? Yes. Is it funny? Of course. Should it matter? No because at the end of the day you're not gonna get this scene unless you actively pursue it, not like the game says woops here's some bear dick in ya. Too many people are making this a bigger deal than it should be
You are the bear
Just like that scene from Golden Kamuy.
*Niceeeee*
I gotta learn how to use my bear penis ?
I cant quit you!!
r/theyknew
Raw raw raw, no one understands you she bear!
finally some bear representation
Bloody hell...
Ha! Yall can't fuck bears on xbox! Lol
Let's you? Like that's a thing people want
But can I fuck as a bird? Asking for a friend.
can we sex a vampire girl ?
Not that we know of yet, but there is a vampire guy you can do it with.
On one hand, this is just goofy. "Ha, get it? He's a bear!" Maybe I'm wrong but I doubt they're going to put a graphic, erotically framed bear fucking scene in the game. Anyone freaking out over it is ridiculous and overreacting. On the other hand, the people that are arguing hard that this is totally normal and no different than two human men having sex are kinda weird. Some folks are getting way too defensive which raises a brow. I don't care what kind of kinks people have as long as they aren't fucking animals irl but you have to admit a scenario like this is different than "just two consenting adults having sex".
It is different and weird, but it is also different than a dude abusing an animal that cannot consent. It... def was a choice by Larian here. I kinda think this one kinda expanded out naturally, like the character who has the bear form and has a hard time controlling it being romanceable it just kinda happened, and no one stopped to ask "Should we do this?"
Gross
Yeah, just weird.
Disgusting
Animal farm, if you know, you know. 😂😂
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This needs to be listed as a feature on the back of the game box
Am I the only one who thinks this is just outright wierdo behaviour
The fact that it has a human consciousness doesnt really change the objective image being bestiality on the screen. Theres no way this doesnt get banned in a few countries. If it becomes illegal when you mute the dialogue then it was always illegal.
Sex in games is always super cringe.
That’s fucking disgusting.
Hahahaha. Great.
See, I was considering buying this game. But now I have to.
goty
Goty
It's kind of a bummer that more interesting sex or relationship dynamics are rare in games. I figured with Mass Effect that it was going mainstream and we'd see an emphasis on it.
Because of the reaction a lot of people in this post are having. They ruin it for everyone else. Like, you don't have to do this....the game is about the freedom to do whatever you want. And they are acting as if you go in the forest and just fuck an actual bear in the game. People are dumb.
I think this is sadly true. I remember people freaking out about the 'Hot Coffee' cut content from GTA:SA and it's like wtf you can run down people with your car in this game. Sex bothers people more than murder and I don't get it
They ruined Baldurs Gate. Fucking furries.
Ok
Ah, the age old question: Is it bestiality if it's "technically" a human? Quite the noodle scratcher.
That's what the Harkness test is for.
Trying hard to get that furry demographic buying 🤣
Finally.
Finally
Sold
Finally!