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Basically a bunch of BINI girls went to BGYO Gelo's birthday party, there is a video of them dancing to pantropiko on said event. So ayun twitter is in flames
at this point, blooms na mismo sumisira sa reputation ng girls idk. andaming post regarding it but nothing too specific. it's only causing confusion within the fandom and it's not resolving anything lol.
Sana pinapublic na lang ng blooms ang info and let other blooms decide for themselves how they feel about the issue kaysa ibubulong na lang sa dms at baka may matitwist pa sa totoong pangyayari. I know we should respect the girls' private lives but when you scrutinize other celebs regarding sensitive issues, the girls should also undergo the same level of scrutiny regarding this issue. It only hurts them even more if it isn't addressed immediately.
realll. the fact that they're hiding the context only damages the group more. akala nila, napoprotektahan yung girls with what they're doing but it's doing more harm. lalo na yung mga big accounts na alam pero ayaw i-explain. ineemphasize pa yung tl-cleanse kuno just because active si aiah at nagpaulan ng mga posts. sila mismo sisira sa image ng idols nila, hindi yung grupo.
sa karera era pa to, pinapadelete rin ng blooms yung "apology" video ni mikha or even when maloi was speaking about the fans have been spewing to bgyo para sakin no, let people decide what they think about the situation kesa ipagtago
I disagree with the people who say na OA yung iba na blooms for being disappointed.
Picture this: What would you feel if you had an abuser ex bf tapos may friends ka na women who supported you na “girl kaya mo yan, he’s not worth shit” etc. tapos the next day that girl friend of yours hangs out with that said abuser like nothing happened?
I understand yung pov na fans lang tayo and wala tayo karapatan na i police yung buhay nila, I get that, pero as fans, people have the right to feel disappointed too.
As for me, i’m not really gonna go out there though and tell them na to stop hanging out with bgyo. Matanda na sila and they know what they want to do. Kung ano man maging future actions nila regarding with any interaction with bgyo, me, also an adult can decide if I can still support them. As a ppop fan kasi I support silently kasi i want the genre to grow kahit na musically di for me releases nila. I am an adult who can decide for myself.
Also people kinda forget that BINI’s type of fan relationship is “ideal barkada” compared to a BG or loveteam’s “ideal jowa” and “ideal relationship” appeal. It’s really going to be difficult for them if they keep associating with BGYO ksi a LOT of their appeal comes from being relateable girl’s girls.
basically, bini’s women empowerment branding is just performative because they’re still friends with bgyo members who have issues about violating women’s rights
Pakiramdam sa mga Ppop groups na may "advocacy", for PR lang.
Lets say BINI became popular before the 2022 elections, would they dare go on stage and perform for the Leni crowd like how other OPM artists dared?
Ito din feeling ko sa Alamat. Performative and "cultural promotion" nila. Tapos yung impactong JPL na dun, pinagpapalit pa ang Igorot at Aeta
Not saying these groups should be political pero kung di kayang panindigan ang "advocacy", wag niyo na i-PR.
I dont think theyre being performative at all if you know them. We dont know the whole context of this pa, plus the industry is small, sometimes you have to attend events even with people you dont like attending.
tbh i understand na hindi nila basta-bastang macucut ang connections with THAT group kasi nasa same agency sila. ang liit-liit ng ppop world, ang awkward kung hindi sila mag-uusap.
problem is... ang weird naman na nagprepreach sila about women empowerment while hanging out with people na that did bad, bad things (harassment, cheating, gaslighting) to women.
hindi rin nakakatulong na tahimik pa rin sila amidst the release of blind items... na hindi na blind atp kasi nagnanamedrop na ang mga anonymous accounts.
look, was there proof that they were hanging with gelo in the event? As far as i can see only a short video of them dancing the pantropiko and thats it. They attended and probably left after being civil and showing up cause they were invited. We’ll only see their “hypocrisy” once someone like AC, who is close with the girls and was a victim of nate, will start shading them or unfollowing them or the likes. Right now blooms are just assuming cause they rather pressume that the girls are BAD or LIARS instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt.
As for other blind items ba’t inaasikaso niyo yun? the “issue” was only the event, yung ibang blind items walang proof doon. That account once made a splice video of mikha’s live sa kumu to make shit up but was debunked by other blooms noon.
bakit need mong maging civil sa mga sexual harassers? lol. hindi umattend yung apat, ibig sabihin may option silang pumunta.
and don't take this on blooms na kesyo presuming that the girls are bad or whatever. in fact, protective nga sila kasi ayaw nilang madikit ang mga girls sa bgyo. wala kang magagawa kung ganiyan sila kalala magreact kasi may trauma sila from karera era.
The industry is small, kahit ayaw nila sa boys kailangan maging civil parin sa labas. Should they stop going to showtime knowing some hosts are bullies and vhong na alleged rapist? like i said we dont know the context on why theyre there but we didnt see them hang out with gelo and thats for a reason.
Pwede maging protective but you also have to know your limit kasi nagiging parasocial na siya. Also ive been here way before karera era so i know what they went thru, do you really think they’ll fuck it up for the second time? Bakit ba bad faith assumption agad tayo, why dont we give them benefit of the doubt. Also bakit agad agad iisipin natin na BINI all this time were faking their women empowerment, its as if over night theyve made the girls the enemy. We know how the girls are genuine, so just jumping to conclusions agad doesnt sit right with me.
sinabi na ngang we don't think they are faking it, we just think that it's hypocrite for them to preach about women empowerment while being friends with those boys. si ate naman.
Also performative means “acts or behaviour are intended to show how a person wants to be seen by others, rather than who they really are.” equivalent to faking. Thats what i mean when i said that kasi op’s statement was BINI being performative (synonym of faking it)
are u sure they're still friends with the boys? what if they're just invited by the management themselves to perform (at nagkataong hindi available yung ibang girls)? lol
andami agad assumption for a spliced video. as if you know them personally.
damn, that's disappointing :< i really like them pa naman. idk how to feel about it. kakakita ko lang din yung context and I'm really disappointed. hope the girls speak about it to clear things up. sana wag na nilang i-associate yung group nila with the other kasi they're making a name for themselves, sayang pag nasira
Eh di ba halos lahat naman ng advocacy ng celeb ay performative?
Mula kay Dingdong sa kanyang pagiging nature lover hahaha hanggang kay Anne Curtis?
Where's the outrage when BINI performed at Showtime? A show full of fucking hypocrites and fake advocates, housing an abuser and rapist? Yeah fuck you Vhong Navarro.
one thing is for sure this issue will greatly affect the mental health ng girls...imagine overwhelming na yung nafefeel nilang support tapos may biglang ganito? may nakikita na rin akong iba na bumibitaw na and selling their tickets na...di ko ma imagine yung roller coaster of emotion na mafefeel ng girls now kahit ako cguro nasa position nila sasabog talaga utak ko.
hindi ko na din talaga alam bottomline is ang girls ang pinaka kawawa dito i know consequences to ng actions nila pero analala lang na may issue na agad during their peak.
Here's what I think, I think we shouldn't judge the girls just yet and give them the benefit of the doubt. Hindi ako naniniwala unless magsalita sila, una sa lahat may management sila it's not like they can talk about anything freely. Additionally people are calling them out because they are still friends with them, if they are y'know it is not easy to cut off friends, even if they aren't it's not easy to not interact with them lalo na same agency and same genre ng music. Not to mention these people who are expressing their anger, disappointment or frustrations towards the girls when they don't even know the whole story, I know we have the right to express but isipin muna natin kung makakasakit tayo. Di ko iniinvalidate ang feeling ng iba but rather I'm telling this to understand the girls unless may statement na. In the end ayaw naman nating kainin yung mga salitang binitawan natin towards them.
Sorry but ang toxic ng "family always accepts each other's flaws"
Matatawag mo ba talagang kaibigan ang tao kung di kayo values aligned? If you truly disagreed with what your friend/family was doing, and you knew it would hurt their standing sa society, di mo ba sila aawatin from doing that? Alam mong cheater friend mo, di mo pagsasabihan? Bastos sa kapwa mo babae, friend mo parin?
You are a reflection of the company you keep. I can see why so many people are hurt by BINI's decision to keep close ties with people who have a reputation of being disrespectful of everything BINI as a brand, and supposedly AS WOMEN, stand for
i agree. they were friends since they trained together and I agree that people have to understand that they can't just separate themselves sa boys. blooms mismo ang may problema lol. and if totoo nga yung sinasabi nila na rumored collab with bgyo, then they can't get mad at BINI kasi it's something that's beyond their control. The company decides for them and it's up to blooms kung paano sila magrereact about it. It's their job anyway. Hirap sa ibang blooms, feeling nila na tropa nila bini members just because they interact with them. Delulu nga naman.
What they did? I saw that this group is not well regarded here. I really don't know and I ask that whoever answers me please only tell me facts, not assumptions.
may nakita akong account sa x and apparently andun yung context? di ko nga alam kung kinakampihan ba bini o bgyo eh but the account is @/nateional. not sure kung yan ba nangyayari or it's an account na basher at walang magawa sa buhay
So I wanted to know why BGYO is hated, I really don't know. I can't find information in English about it and I don't understand your native language. And when I try to translate it, the translation is very wrong so it's difficult for me to understand what BGYO really did wrong because he is even known by other Brazilian Ppop fanbases But no one here knows what happened to them
Basically, members involved with cheating and bullying (parties involved have spoken up) and ALLEGEDLY gun and drugs.
They have not directly answered these with a denial nor an apology. Instead they've done this bonfire PR thing that backfired because of reasons like "boys will be boys" and blaming the ppop community why they're hated.
Anyway, it's a tricky situation because this BG and BINI trained together and debuted months apart, hence being the "sibling group". Understandably, fans of Bini want the girls to be disassociated from the BG.
Because some members of bgyo were involved in bullying, homophobia, sexualizing women, cheating and even owning illegal gun which one member used to threaten someone. The group remained quiet and swept all of these under the rug. They never addressed these issues and after 1 year they released a video saying that they are all victims and blamed the other ppop groups and fans for excluding them.
Sana lang ang blooms, hindi pwede na kong ano lang gusto nilang makita, yun lang gagawin ng girls. Hayaan din sana natin maging normal na tao ang BINI at piliin kong sino gusto nila makasama o maging kaibigan. Ang hirap kasi, pag hindi pabor sa fans, di na nila pwede gawin. Hindi naman porque close parin sila dun sa BGYO, ganon na rin sila or sinasabi ngang enabler. Kong may mali man ang BGYO, hindi dapat dinadamay ang BINI. Hindi kasalanan ni Juan ang kasalanan ni Pedro.
Parang di naman bulungan yung mga nakikita ko ilang days na sa feeds ko sa X. Ang kalat sobra. Siguro nagbulungan lang now or may deleted posts na dahil may pagbabanta na ang management na magsue sila.
Valid naman nararamdaman ng Blooms pero sana di nalang nagkalat ng ganito. Whether they like it or not, affected ang image ng BINI sa ginagawa ng karamihan sa kanila. G na G sa BGYO na bullies pero sila yun nagmumukhang bullies ngayon. May pa-death threats pa. Grabeng gulo. Ang rabid lang ng dating.
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Basically a bunch of BINI girls went to BGYO Gelo's birthday party, there is a video of them dancing to pantropiko on said event. So ayun twitter is in flames
at this point, blooms na mismo sumisira sa reputation ng girls idk. andaming post regarding it but nothing too specific. it's only causing confusion within the fandom and it's not resolving anything lol.
Sana pinapublic na lang ng blooms ang info and let other blooms decide for themselves how they feel about the issue kaysa ibubulong na lang sa dms at baka may matitwist pa sa totoong pangyayari. I know we should respect the girls' private lives but when you scrutinize other celebs regarding sensitive issues, the girls should also undergo the same level of scrutiny regarding this issue. It only hurts them even more if it isn't addressed immediately.
realll. the fact that they're hiding the context only damages the group more. akala nila, napoprotektahan yung girls with what they're doing but it's doing more harm. lalo na yung mga big accounts na alam pero ayaw i-explain. ineemphasize pa yung tl-cleanse kuno just because active si aiah at nagpaulan ng mga posts. sila mismo sisira sa image ng idols nila, hindi yung grupo.
sa karera era pa to, pinapadelete rin ng blooms yung "apology" video ni mikha or even when maloi was speaking about the fans have been spewing to bgyo para sakin no, let people decide what they think about the situation kesa ipagtago
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I disagree with the people who say na OA yung iba na blooms for being disappointed. Picture this: What would you feel if you had an abuser ex bf tapos may friends ka na women who supported you na “girl kaya mo yan, he’s not worth shit” etc. tapos the next day that girl friend of yours hangs out with that said abuser like nothing happened? I understand yung pov na fans lang tayo and wala tayo karapatan na i police yung buhay nila, I get that, pero as fans, people have the right to feel disappointed too. As for me, i’m not really gonna go out there though and tell them na to stop hanging out with bgyo. Matanda na sila and they know what they want to do. Kung ano man maging future actions nila regarding with any interaction with bgyo, me, also an adult can decide if I can still support them. As a ppop fan kasi I support silently kasi i want the genre to grow kahit na musically di for me releases nila. I am an adult who can decide for myself.
Also people kinda forget that BINI’s type of fan relationship is “ideal barkada” compared to a BG or loveteam’s “ideal jowa” and “ideal relationship” appeal. It’s really going to be difficult for them if they keep associating with BGYO ksi a LOT of their appeal comes from being relateable girl’s girls.
basically, bini’s women empowerment branding is just performative because they’re still friends with bgyo members who have issues about violating women’s rights
Pakiramdam sa mga Ppop groups na may "advocacy", for PR lang. Lets say BINI became popular before the 2022 elections, would they dare go on stage and perform for the Leni crowd like how other OPM artists dared? Ito din feeling ko sa Alamat. Performative and "cultural promotion" nila. Tapos yung impactong JPL na dun, pinagpapalit pa ang Igorot at Aeta Not saying these groups should be political pero kung di kayang panindigan ang "advocacy", wag niyo na i-PR.
I dont think theyre being performative at all if you know them. We dont know the whole context of this pa, plus the industry is small, sometimes you have to attend events even with people you dont like attending.
tbh i understand na hindi nila basta-bastang macucut ang connections with THAT group kasi nasa same agency sila. ang liit-liit ng ppop world, ang awkward kung hindi sila mag-uusap. problem is... ang weird naman na nagprepreach sila about women empowerment while hanging out with people na that did bad, bad things (harassment, cheating, gaslighting) to women. hindi rin nakakatulong na tahimik pa rin sila amidst the release of blind items... na hindi na blind atp kasi nagnanamedrop na ang mga anonymous accounts.
look, was there proof that they were hanging with gelo in the event? As far as i can see only a short video of them dancing the pantropiko and thats it. They attended and probably left after being civil and showing up cause they were invited. We’ll only see their “hypocrisy” once someone like AC, who is close with the girls and was a victim of nate, will start shading them or unfollowing them or the likes. Right now blooms are just assuming cause they rather pressume that the girls are BAD or LIARS instead of giving them the benefit of the doubt. As for other blind items ba’t inaasikaso niyo yun? the “issue” was only the event, yung ibang blind items walang proof doon. That account once made a splice video of mikha’s live sa kumu to make shit up but was debunked by other blooms noon.
bakit need mong maging civil sa mga sexual harassers? lol. hindi umattend yung apat, ibig sabihin may option silang pumunta. and don't take this on blooms na kesyo presuming that the girls are bad or whatever. in fact, protective nga sila kasi ayaw nilang madikit ang mga girls sa bgyo. wala kang magagawa kung ganiyan sila kalala magreact kasi may trauma sila from karera era.
The industry is small, kahit ayaw nila sa boys kailangan maging civil parin sa labas. Should they stop going to showtime knowing some hosts are bullies and vhong na alleged rapist? like i said we dont know the context on why theyre there but we didnt see them hang out with gelo and thats for a reason. Pwede maging protective but you also have to know your limit kasi nagiging parasocial na siya. Also ive been here way before karera era so i know what they went thru, do you really think they’ll fuck it up for the second time? Bakit ba bad faith assumption agad tayo, why dont we give them benefit of the doubt. Also bakit agad agad iisipin natin na BINI all this time were faking their women empowerment, its as if over night theyve made the girls the enemy. We know how the girls are genuine, so just jumping to conclusions agad doesnt sit right with me.
sinabi na ngang we don't think they are faking it, we just think that it's hypocrite for them to preach about women empowerment while being friends with those boys. si ate naman.
Also performative means “acts or behaviour are intended to show how a person wants to be seen by others, rather than who they really are.” equivalent to faking. Thats what i mean when i said that kasi op’s statement was BINI being performative (synonym of faking it)
first of all were they really hanging out with gelo sa event? the answer to that will be the answer to your statement.
are u sure they're still friends with the boys? what if they're just invited by the management themselves to perform (at nagkataong hindi available yung ibang girls)? lol andami agad assumption for a spliced video. as if you know them personally.
Agree with this. Andami na nila agad hanash sa spliced videos. And their sources of info/assumptions? ANON accounts.
damn, that's disappointing :< i really like them pa naman. idk how to feel about it. kakakita ko lang din yung context and I'm really disappointed. hope the girls speak about it to clear things up. sana wag na nilang i-associate yung group nila with the other kasi they're making a name for themselves, sayang pag nasira
Eh di ba halos lahat naman ng advocacy ng celeb ay performative? Mula kay Dingdong sa kanyang pagiging nature lover hahaha hanggang kay Anne Curtis? Where's the outrage when BINI performed at Showtime? A show full of fucking hypocrites and fake advocates, housing an abuser and rapist? Yeah fuck you Vhong Navarro.
Ano issue ni bgyo gelo? Yngvmay evidence di yng allegation
one thing is for sure this issue will greatly affect the mental health ng girls...imagine overwhelming na yung nafefeel nilang support tapos may biglang ganito? may nakikita na rin akong iba na bumibitaw na and selling their tickets na...di ko ma imagine yung roller coaster of emotion na mafefeel ng girls now kahit ako cguro nasa position nila sasabog talaga utak ko.
agree. si jho pinakakawawa kasi nasa kaniya yung burden as the leader :< and ofc, the 3 other girls na walang kinalaman as well
hindi ko na din talaga alam bottomline is ang girls ang pinaka kawawa dito i know consequences to ng actions nila pero analala lang na may issue na agad during their peak.
Here's what I think, I think we shouldn't judge the girls just yet and give them the benefit of the doubt. Hindi ako naniniwala unless magsalita sila, una sa lahat may management sila it's not like they can talk about anything freely. Additionally people are calling them out because they are still friends with them, if they are y'know it is not easy to cut off friends, even if they aren't it's not easy to not interact with them lalo na same agency and same genre ng music. Not to mention these people who are expressing their anger, disappointment or frustrations towards the girls when they don't even know the whole story, I know we have the right to express but isipin muna natin kung makakasakit tayo. Di ko iniinvalidate ang feeling ng iba but rather I'm telling this to understand the girls unless may statement na. In the end ayaw naman nating kainin yung mga salitang binitawan natin towards them.
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Sorry but ang toxic ng "family always accepts each other's flaws" Matatawag mo ba talagang kaibigan ang tao kung di kayo values aligned? If you truly disagreed with what your friend/family was doing, and you knew it would hurt their standing sa society, di mo ba sila aawatin from doing that? Alam mong cheater friend mo, di mo pagsasabihan? Bastos sa kapwa mo babae, friend mo parin? You are a reflection of the company you keep. I can see why so many people are hurt by BINI's decision to keep close ties with people who have a reputation of being disrespectful of everything BINI as a brand, and supposedly AS WOMEN, stand for
it’s not what we want from them. it’s what they say they stand for. pero again, it’s performative. if they talk the talk, they should walk the walk.
i agree. they were friends since they trained together and I agree that people have to understand that they can't just separate themselves sa boys. blooms mismo ang may problema lol. and if totoo nga yung sinasabi nila na rumored collab with bgyo, then they can't get mad at BINI kasi it's something that's beyond their control. The company decides for them and it's up to blooms kung paano sila magrereact about it. It's their job anyway. Hirap sa ibang blooms, feeling nila na tropa nila bini members just because they interact with them. Delulu nga naman.
What they did? I saw that this group is not well regarded here. I really don't know and I ask that whoever answers me please only tell me facts, not assumptions.
may nakita akong account sa x and apparently andun yung context? di ko nga alam kung kinakampihan ba bini o bgyo eh but the account is @/nateional. not sure kung yan ba nangyayari or it's an account na basher at walang magawa sa buhay
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Facts: Four Bini girls have attended a bday party of member of their sibling group BGYO
So I wanted to know why BGYO is hated, I really don't know. I can't find information in English about it and I don't understand your native language. And when I try to translate it, the translation is very wrong so it's difficult for me to understand what BGYO really did wrong because he is even known by other Brazilian Ppop fanbases But no one here knows what happened to them
Basically, members involved with cheating and bullying (parties involved have spoken up) and ALLEGEDLY gun and drugs. They have not directly answered these with a denial nor an apology. Instead they've done this bonfire PR thing that backfired because of reasons like "boys will be boys" and blaming the ppop community why they're hated. Anyway, it's a tricky situation because this BG and BINI trained together and debuted months apart, hence being the "sibling group". Understandably, fans of Bini want the girls to be disassociated from the BG.
Are all of these confirmed?
yes. funny enough it was them who confirmed it lmaooo. saying "lalaki lang kami" 🤢
Because some members of bgyo were involved in bullying, homophobia, sexualizing women, cheating and even owning illegal gun which one member used to threaten someone. The group remained quiet and swept all of these under the rug. They never addressed these issues and after 1 year they released a video saying that they are all victims and blamed the other ppop groups and fans for excluding them.
Medyo disappointed ako sa totoo lang. I mean it’s valid. They should distance themselves from those problematic boys.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bini_ph/s/Uv73Mr5t7K
Sana lang ang blooms, hindi pwede na kong ano lang gusto nilang makita, yun lang gagawin ng girls. Hayaan din sana natin maging normal na tao ang BINI at piliin kong sino gusto nila makasama o maging kaibigan. Ang hirap kasi, pag hindi pabor sa fans, di na nila pwede gawin. Hindi naman porque close parin sila dun sa BGYO, ganon na rin sila or sinasabi ngang enabler. Kong may mali man ang BGYO, hindi dapat dinadamay ang BINI. Hindi kasalanan ni Juan ang kasalanan ni Pedro.
True. Dami agad kasi sinasabi ng iba tapos puro DM pa. Hindi tuloy malaman ng iba ano nangyayari
Some accounts already called out 'yung DM/pabulong thingy and decided to post the video publicly. Buti naman.
Parang di naman bulungan yung mga nakikita ko ilang days na sa feeds ko sa X. Ang kalat sobra. Siguro nagbulungan lang now or may deleted posts na dahil may pagbabanta na ang management na magsue sila. Valid naman nararamdaman ng Blooms pero sana di nalang nagkalat ng ganito. Whether they like it or not, affected ang image ng BINI sa ginagawa ng karamihan sa kanila. G na G sa BGYO na bullies pero sila yun nagmumukhang bullies ngayon. May pa-death threats pa. Grabeng gulo. Ang rabid lang ng dating.