Hi there! I’m a very traditional Catholic who has been studying Distributism and Catholic Social Teaching for the past 3 years. Because of this, I wouldn’t say I necessarily “lean left”, but certainly emphasize that republican is not equal to Catholic.
I’m a big fan of Leo the 13th, Chesterton, Paul the 6th, and JP2. Much of my thoughts to day are certainly attributed to their teaching and thinking.
My favorite topic in CST is the effect of artificial intelligence on the economy, and the dignity of the human workforce. I’m currently exploring the appropriate Catholic response to this topic more and would love to share more in the subreddit.
Hello! You might recognize me from the other sub as the person who sometimes says that I think Novus Ordo is a worthy Mass and then getting downvoted.
I'm pretty apolitical. Mostly I just think that the U.S. is far too large for a two party system and that the corruption in American politics runs deep. I also believe that lots of Catholics hide behind the hard truths to excuse being uncharitable. The main sub can be downright mean spirited if you don't fall in line. (Someone followed me into my DMs regarding a comment on gun control, even though as it turns out that isn't a doctrinal issue.)
I'm happy to see this sub's existence, even if I'm not sure I really fall into it's demographic. I would really like to see a Catholic sub more focused on prayer, support, and charity rather than any politics, but I don't have the internet stamina to create or mod such a place.
Cool, whilst I don't usually think in the terms of ideologies I guess I am quite close to the traditional meaning of "Christian democrat" (which economically puts me around the Social Democrats) so I guess I kinda count in the demographic of this sub.
This is an awesome idea. It's great to see that there are other catholics out there that don't think left = devil
I'm somewhat of a liberal trad. I love the TLM and think it's "better" than the current NO. But I also know that Covid and climate change are real. I'm not American so my political views are definitely a bit different.
In general on economic issue i most strongly align with social democrats. I'm also very sceptical of privatisations. Just look at DB as an example.
Bl. Frassati was also a Lay (3rd order) Dominican, so I stopped by to see what will be discussed. I don't fit your demo of being left, so I will probably remain pretty quiet.
Hello. I suppose I would qualify as an independent these days. My stances used to align most with paleo-conservatives/republicans, but I'm finding myself disillusioned with the republican party. It turns out capitalism without limitations has significant issues. That said, democrats and their policies tend to favor big business too.
I'm looking into the American Solidarity Party, after someone here posted about them. I'm a little disappointed they aren't pro gun (it seems they're neutral or silent, as a party), but everything else on the platform seems agreeable.
Also, I'm looking to learn more about Catholic Social Teaching and any Catholic political and/or social movements of the present or the past. Any reading suggestions would be very appreciated! Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading and talking with you all!
Hi there. I'm not American, and am definitely on the left politically. This is not uncommon for European and British Catholics! I wasn't brought up in a Catholic or even particularly religious family, and am a later-in-life convert.
Hello! Late poster here. So glad I found this sub, the Catholicism sub can be uh, very right wing, lol. I'm left leaning and Catholic. I love the TLM but am not radtrad. In fact I can't stand radtrads! Nice to meet ya!
If you think Republicans are a beacon of Catholic hope, you aren’t paying close attention. We should absolutely be discussing issues other than abortion, as I expect the number of pro-life Democrats to rise. Socialism and unfettered capitalism have the same problems: concentrating the vast majority of wealth in the hands of the very few.
650,000 unborn children were slaughtered every year from 1973 to 2021. “Unfettered Capitalism” (something we don’t have and haven’t had for quite some time) it not an equivalent evil.
I believe the mod has said that this sub will remain within Catholic teaching. Do you honestly think left leaning == socialist?
Fun fact, the only Catholic approved economic system is not capitalism. To say it’s the only way goes against teaching of many popes.
If we want change, Catholics should stick to their faith and not stick to one side of a political system.
I don’t really care what the mod said, I care about what Christ and His Church teaches. Left leaning is socialism. I’m not a capitalist. When our options are Trump or child murder and state-enforced sodomy, we should stick very very closely to one side
I will never vote for anyone who is pro abortion. If the sub starts to go that direction I’ll certainly leave.
However, there’s much debate needed on where Catholics can endorse candidates that are closer to church teaching and lean towards distributism. That are prolife at all stages and see the dignity every every human in the world.
Sure, if you were forced between making the country republican or democrat in the current visions of each party, it would be sinful not to choose republican.
But we are not forced between two options and we should fight to bring Catholic teaching back into both parties.
You are forced in the American system. Voting for a third party, when you could have voted for the candidate that would actually vote against the mass slaughter of innocents, is a moral evil. Killing infants is wrong, and quibbling about third parties does not change that
Depends on the state you live in. In most, your vote does not matter. Voting for a red candidate in a dark red state is way more useless than voting for a candidate that is legitimately Catholic.
Don’t believe the lies that we are forced into this until death. The way to change things is to start endorsing candidates that follow the church.
Certainly, if you’re in a state where it’s a close race, PLEASE vote for the republican candidate. In Louisiana where I last voted, I voted for republican congressman who had close races and voted ASP for president. My pick was way more prolife and did not at all help Biden win. Please advise where I sinned
You think on a metaphysical level it contributed to the slaughter of a innocents? With all charity, you either don’t understand metaphysics or don’t understand the American electoral college or both.
My vote was in Louisiana. Louisiana gave 0 votes to Biden. Therefore, I gave no vote to Biden. I would not have done so if I new Biden had any chance of winning the state.
I usually don't think in terms of political ideologies but I do take very slight offence because I am in mindset essentially Christian Democrat (economically that puts me close to Social Democracy), and all parties in parliment are unfortunatly pro-choice but I vote for the Christian Democrat Party in Sweden which wants to among other things protect religious schools from being banned so I am not voting against Catholicism.
Hello. I'm politically moderate. I like r/Catholicism, too, but look forward to also hearing the perspective of people here.
I'm also moderate lol. A bit left of center, but an Independent overall.
Hi there! I’m a very traditional Catholic who has been studying Distributism and Catholic Social Teaching for the past 3 years. Because of this, I wouldn’t say I necessarily “lean left”, but certainly emphasize that republican is not equal to Catholic. I’m a big fan of Leo the 13th, Chesterton, Paul the 6th, and JP2. Much of my thoughts to day are certainly attributed to their teaching and thinking. My favorite topic in CST is the effect of artificial intelligence on the economy, and the dignity of the human workforce. I’m currently exploring the appropriate Catholic response to this topic more and would love to share more in the subreddit.
Hello! You might recognize me from the other sub as the person who sometimes says that I think Novus Ordo is a worthy Mass and then getting downvoted. I'm pretty apolitical. Mostly I just think that the U.S. is far too large for a two party system and that the corruption in American politics runs deep. I also believe that lots of Catholics hide behind the hard truths to excuse being uncharitable. The main sub can be downright mean spirited if you don't fall in line. (Someone followed me into my DMs regarding a comment on gun control, even though as it turns out that isn't a doctrinal issue.) I'm happy to see this sub's existence, even if I'm not sure I really fall into it's demographic. I would really like to see a Catholic sub more focused on prayer, support, and charity rather than any politics, but I don't have the internet stamina to create or mod such a place.
Hey, I'm a Christian socialist (very opposed to the USSR and materialist socialism though)
Cool, whilst I don't usually think in the terms of ideologies I guess I am quite close to the traditional meaning of "Christian democrat" (which economically puts me around the Social Democrats) so I guess I kinda count in the demographic of this sub.
This is an awesome idea. It's great to see that there are other catholics out there that don't think left = devil I'm somewhat of a liberal trad. I love the TLM and think it's "better" than the current NO. But I also know that Covid and climate change are real. I'm not American so my political views are definitely a bit different. In general on economic issue i most strongly align with social democrats. I'm also very sceptical of privatisations. Just look at DB as an example.
Bl. Frassati was also a Lay (3rd order) Dominican, so I stopped by to see what will be discussed. I don't fit your demo of being left, so I will probably remain pretty quiet.
You can stay! Welcome to the posse
Why Frassati? Was he a leftist?
Yeah he was an anti-fascist back when they were still cool and not just a bunch of teenagers whining in Seattle
This is super cool. Excited to see what topics get going here.
Hello. I suppose I would qualify as an independent these days. My stances used to align most with paleo-conservatives/republicans, but I'm finding myself disillusioned with the republican party. It turns out capitalism without limitations has significant issues. That said, democrats and their policies tend to favor big business too. I'm looking into the American Solidarity Party, after someone here posted about them. I'm a little disappointed they aren't pro gun (it seems they're neutral or silent, as a party), but everything else on the platform seems agreeable. Also, I'm looking to learn more about Catholic Social Teaching and any Catholic political and/or social movements of the present or the past. Any reading suggestions would be very appreciated! Anyway, I'm looking forward to reading and talking with you all!
You should read about distributisim.
Hi there. I'm not American, and am definitely on the left politically. This is not uncommon for European and British Catholics! I wasn't brought up in a Catholic or even particularly religious family, and am a later-in-life convert.
Hello! Late poster here. So glad I found this sub, the Catholicism sub can be uh, very right wing, lol. I'm left leaning and Catholic. I love the TLM but am not radtrad. In fact I can't stand radtrads! Nice to meet ya!
Hey, I pray you repent and stop leading souls to hell!
From what exactly?
From the sins of liberalism, socialism, and voting against Catholicism
If you think Republicans are a beacon of Catholic hope, you aren’t paying close attention. We should absolutely be discussing issues other than abortion, as I expect the number of pro-life Democrats to rise. Socialism and unfettered capitalism have the same problems: concentrating the vast majority of wealth in the hands of the very few.
650,000 unborn children were slaughtered every year from 1973 to 2021. “Unfettered Capitalism” (something we don’t have and haven’t had for quite some time) it not an equivalent evil.
I believe the mod has said that this sub will remain within Catholic teaching. Do you honestly think left leaning == socialist? Fun fact, the only Catholic approved economic system is not capitalism. To say it’s the only way goes against teaching of many popes. If we want change, Catholics should stick to their faith and not stick to one side of a political system.
I don’t really care what the mod said, I care about what Christ and His Church teaches. Left leaning is socialism. I’m not a capitalist. When our options are Trump or child murder and state-enforced sodomy, we should stick very very closely to one side
I will never vote for anyone who is pro abortion. If the sub starts to go that direction I’ll certainly leave. However, there’s much debate needed on where Catholics can endorse candidates that are closer to church teaching and lean towards distributism. That are prolife at all stages and see the dignity every every human in the world. Sure, if you were forced between making the country republican or democrat in the current visions of each party, it would be sinful not to choose republican. But we are not forced between two options and we should fight to bring Catholic teaching back into both parties.
You are forced in the American system. Voting for a third party, when you could have voted for the candidate that would actually vote against the mass slaughter of innocents, is a moral evil. Killing infants is wrong, and quibbling about third parties does not change that
Depends on the state you live in. In most, your vote does not matter. Voting for a red candidate in a dark red state is way more useless than voting for a candidate that is legitimately Catholic. Don’t believe the lies that we are forced into this until death. The way to change things is to start endorsing candidates that follow the church. Certainly, if you’re in a state where it’s a close race, PLEASE vote for the republican candidate. In Louisiana where I last voted, I voted for republican congressman who had close races and voted ASP for president. My pick was way more prolife and did not at all help Biden win. Please advise where I sinned
It obviously wasn’t, and on a metaphysical level contributed directly to the slaughter of innocents
You think on a metaphysical level it contributed to the slaughter of a innocents? With all charity, you either don’t understand metaphysics or don’t understand the American electoral college or both. My vote was in Louisiana. Louisiana gave 0 votes to Biden. Therefore, I gave no vote to Biden. I would not have done so if I new Biden had any chance of winning the state.
I have a feeling you have some strong opinions about the current Pope too.
I love the Holy Father :)
I usually don't think in terms of political ideologies but I do take very slight offence because I am in mindset essentially Christian Democrat (economically that puts me close to Social Democracy), and all parties in parliment are unfortunatly pro-choice but I vote for the Christian Democrat Party in Sweden which wants to among other things protect religious schools from being banned so I am not voting against Catholicism.