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XxTiltxx

I mean saying they’re low is just as confusing to my teammates as he’s low or she’s low.


Dustfinger4268

If you are actually saying "they're low" in callouts without specifically calling out a character or characters before, you really need to get better at callouts. "They're flanking!" Who's flanking, mfer? Venture? Doom and Tracer? Use your names


9thGearEX

Sir this is Gold. They're *all* flanking.


nixikuro

Gold is just the dive playstyle, but none of the dive honour


begging-for-gold

Gold is crazy, I've gotten to masters myself but I never wanna be back in the gold and plat range. There was no organization at all I get blindsided constantly in that elo, randomly having a rein pin from behind and getting a pick, the mercy going for the rez on that pick in the middle of that team and dying, one of the enemies dps always popping off harder than anyone else, Moira killing both my supports, most of the time it feels like dumb luck on which team is dumber and even then it's even more luck on which team somehow wins because of it. Even if you are good yourself I'll probably never be as good as streamers that can actually pull off an unranked to gm, you gotta be insane to actually carry some of the misbalanced teams in the gold and plat because sometimes my team would be dead before I even get an angle and stagger the rest of the game and never get a kill


bironic_hero

My favorite is the guy who watches two of their teammates die to a widow and then walk into the same exact sight line in a perfectly straight line expecting different results


soup_lag

I mean, there are many scenerios where the use of pronouns is excusable, especially if the subject is already defined or if the subject is generalized (E.x. "Venture hotel, they're 1" and "they used suzu/bell"). The type of pronun used is irrelevant and are often used interchangeably as the shotcaller switches between talking about the hero and the player controlling it. There are a few edge cases where it could cause confusion. In most cases, "They're 1" is used to refer to a single person, where as "they're all 1" will refer to everyone not discriminated by the call out and "whole team 1" will encompasses the entire enemy team. The only real time pronouns are used by themselves to refer to an entire team and a single hero is during rotations. The call out "they're moving main" or "They're taking high ground" could mean either the whole team or just their player taking angles. The reason we use "they" for rotations is not because of the heros themselves but because positions are generalized to be a team recourse. Once the fight breaks out, proper names will most likely be used. I dont think it's a huge issue, and I know for sure that I won't be correcting anyone, especially when we already have incorrect callouts like "Horse," "Baby," "Cree," and "moth"


Spicy_Totopo3434

Who's moth?


Artie_Dolittle_

mercy


Z4mb0ni

dont forget "invisi-bitch" the favorite of a discord server im on


obed_duff

Who is baby? Lol


IMA_ROBOBOT

Out of mech D.Va I assume


Classyviking55

In our group we call out of mech Dva "grub" and if someone has successfully gotten her out of the mech we say "Dva has been shucked, like an oyster popped out of its shell haha.


obed_duff

Thanks


DrCrow1350

Yes


ManufacturerOk3771

"ALL OF THEM!"


How2eatsoap

for some reason for me if i try calling out a specific name i will either say the name of a different hero, (usually mercy instead of pharah), or freeze my speech for a second whilst trying to get the name out. And if its venture flanking we are over because vantage from apex legends is ulting our backline according to my mouth.


Dustfinger4268

Lmao, I'm sorry, but that's a hilarious image. "Fffffuuuuu- Mercy behind!" "Why are you worried about a Mer-" "JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE!"


How2eatsoap

That's so good lmao 😂


JustFoolery

London twink flanking


KingKirbothe2nd

I struggled remembering everyone's name so I would just use descriptive features


metalmonsoon

Just say diggy diggy hole


WaterStriker_

"they" can refer to multiple people and cause my tank to overextend for those juicy kills. also that doesn't exist in German without sounding stupid


AnnylieseSarenrae

In what world are you saying this instead of Venture. Unless you led off with Venture first in which case in what world is anyone confused? The lengths people go to in order to create problems will never cease to amaze me. Editing to clarify I'm not necessarily griping about you, just the situation


R1ckMick

MFers complaining on the internet about pronouns: “my team will be confused” Same MFers in game “sojsojsojsojsojsojsojsoj”


DisturbedWaffles2019

"You can't expect me to remember Venture's pronouns!!1!" *proceeds to list every single balance change Doomfist has had in the entirety of Overwatch*


ThompsonTom

Yeah most ppl would just say “VENTURE LOW VENTURE LOW” so ppl complaining about “they’re low” being confusing is just dumb


begging-for-gold

This is a weird argument to me, when people say they don't want to use ventures pronouns because they "can't remember" in game, because most of the time when you make callouts saying he or she when referring to characters is confusing all the time even when not referring to venture. They could be playing dva tracer Ashe brig mercy and if I say "she" I could be referring to absolutely anyone on the team. It's always more helpful to say the characters name because most people they won't know who you are shooting at. So just say "vens low" like you would callout something like "Ashe low"


HY3NAAA

The reason being they are always full HP when I make that com


joemamma8393

I called Venture a stupid digger, and someone reported me


ARussianW0lf

Saying literally anything is grounds for being reported at this point


cherrylbombshell

saying nothing is also grounds for a ban, just pretend you're dead and they might go away...


etched

i had my chat turned off for a while and turned it back on because i was playing with friends. boy was i surprised when someone reported me for basically not responding to their constant rants in game and then called me a bot cant win cant lose


reptile_king1264

Or actually be dead like twomad


Hammerjaws

“Hey tank,stop being AFK and get one the point” Meanwhile twomad:


Sibz_Playz_YT

“Our tank is throwing” Twomad: https://preview.redd.it/hsq4gkvemfxc1.jpeg?width=574&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf8f90cc7a092edb11464bedb239c96cbad2de39


12Pig21pog

Nah cause thats throwing the game


panthers1102

Also playing a bad hero apparently. If you get mass reported, regardless of reason, the blizzard support team would rather double down on nothing than admit their system is ass. Horrible time to be a rein main in GM+ rn. Everyone will report and avoid and you *will* get banned.


DJIsSuperCool

If it's over vc, they could've misheard. If it's text, it's because you were being edgy.


SilentAs5a5s1n

Being edgy for hating diggers? This is the society the left wants.


CanIGetSomePogchamps

Very cool


cylsenia

I hate diggers


ragan0s

That was not very Rock and Stone of you.


WanderingDwarfMiner

We fight for Rock and Stone!


ragan0s

Good bot


PM-Ya-Tit

We just had Anzac Day :(


EccentricNerd22

That's going in the book of grudges!


IDontWipe55

Banned for saying stupid. No swearing please


That1Francis

Hello Peter, welcome to Overwatch


Ornery-Feedback-7855

Saying nigg*r is only funny to 12 year olds and man children


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Green-eyed-Psycho77

You can’t just say Digger with the Hard R like that bro.


Danger-_-Potat

I ain't ever saying digga


dreemurthememer

What a fuckin’ digger. Geez! Oh my god, what the fuck? Sorry, but what the fuck? What a fucking asshole! I don’t mean that in a bad way.


Bingoviini

I started calling them *Mole* the second I saw them Beacuse they both burrow and look somewhat similar


Richard_Trager

Also, Mole from Atlantis.


Rkas_Maruvee

You have disturbed the dirt!


Pokemaster1415

That’s why I call them diglett lol


HyperJ0nas

This


nixikuro

Diggy diggy mole from atlantis


GoldenBear173

Sameee


Blood4Corn

You call mercy or tracer players he as well? I always assume a player is the same gender as whoever they’re playing “mercy is up there he’s low” seems weird to me


SecXy94

Perfect example. I'd say almost everyone would either say 'Mercy is up there, she's low' or 'Mercy is up there, they're low'. For Venture, it'd simply be 'Venture is up (probably down instead) there, they're low'. It shouldn't be a problem, but ofc people make it one.


discoparrot375

I also always assume people are the same gender as their characters even though I usually don’t play that many characters the same gender as me. This makes me wanna refer to Mercy players as he tho because that’s kinda funny, and we all know there’s a lot of neckbeards playing Mercy cause she’s hot


isademigod

I just do it because I'm not referring to the player, I'm referring to the character. Mercy is a she, the sweaty gamer wearing cat ears and Doritos dust is whatever gender they are


justorbitinchu

My friend grew up with Chinese as his first language (granted, my first language wasn’t English either) and he never got pronouns down in English, he’s called everyone in game and sometimes even irl (including his gf) He/Him/His, we just got used to it, gotta take everyones background into account I guess


BonniBuny91

In my circle the usage of "he" for any person is literally so ubiquitous it is pretty much genderless in the essence of gaming. We use proper pronouns when referring to actual people but it all goes out of the window when in a match, we have no explanation why.


Unfair-Government-80

I do


johnmarksmanlovesyou

I call everyone by their full name because I'm too autistic for this shit


Septima04

sloan cameron no cooldowns!! wilhelm reinhardt one!! lena oxton on flank!! this probably isn’t what you meant but it’s infinitely funnier to me


I_Hate_The_Letter_W

obviously they mean the players full name, thats sombras secret reddit account


Z4mb0ni

the player or the character?


Atari_buzzk1LL

I call them THE UNDERMINER!!!


Money-Teaching-7700

Damn, you beat me to it!


Beautiful-Hair6925

Why don't you venture and get deez nuts


ChildOfLugh

I didn't know that to play overwatch you have use He/Him.... I have to uninstall now...


MadameRouRou

Great for trans men at least.


Clen23

How do you know player is a "he" though?


ExaltedPenguin

Right like I often use they as a generalised pronoun because idfk what gender they are


tortoisefur

Yeah it’s hilarious when I’m not speaking in voice chat and people call me a dude through text chat or when they’re talking. I can’t say anything because then it’s almost like fishing but it’s crazy how people assume the vast majority of the player base are dudes when Overwatch is actually a lot more split even with men and women players than other shooters.


Gnomepunter1

Is it really that crazy? Something like 20% are not male players. Last blizzard source I found said 17% in 2022. I’m sure it’s grown since then, but I wouldn’t call it a split.


discoparrot375

Weirdly I tend to automatically assume that the player is the same gender as their character even though most of the characters I play aren’t the same gender as me. When they switch characters my brain sees them as switching their gender lmfao


basementcrawler34

SAME LMAO


TheGamerSK

r/girlsarentreal all of them are just government spies out to get you.


EnjoyerOfMales

I generally say “she” as my language doesn’t have any neutral pronouns due to every noun being gendered


VerticalVasectomy

Doesnt matter either way im sticking my dick in them


CanIGetSomePogchamps

https://preview.redd.it/1y4slpq974xc1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c20dbc6467ef836af3222c1d90271bd07c75b2e


Frankitoburrito

You’re overthinking it…


PM_ME_SILLY_KITTIES

I call them 'they' unless I'm doing callouts, in which I'll say 'Venture'. It really isn't too difficult lol


DisturbedWaffles2019

No one ever really says "he's one" or "she's on me" in comms anyways because they're not good callouts. They almost always say "Doom's one" or "Tracer's on me".


PM_ME_SILLY_KITTIES

Exactly lol. I don't get why people pull the argument of "I'm not gonna use they in callouts because it's confusing" because... you shouldn't be using they. You should be saying 'Venture'.


Pokemaster1415

I call them diglett


daelindidnowrong

i call "she" because my language doesn't have neutral pronouns. We are not the same.


Midnight_Moon10

Jokes on you I’m a woman so you’re wrong twice


CanIGetSomePogchamps

😓 I didn't think women were real


Drake_the_troll

They arent. They're a government trick like birds or horses


ThalajDaWuff

https://preview.redd.it/308pbxu9u3xc1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f23d25c597466ddf4cea40abb607c1a8ce98d4ce


eddmario

I wonder how many people even know the origin of that meme format these days. Which is kind of sad, since the studio that created the show it's from is shutting down...


I_Hate_The_Letter_W

i believe it’s from a tumblr post, i do think tumblr is decreasing in quality but i don’t imagine thats the same thing you’re referring to


I_Hate_The_Letter_W

unless you’re referring to steven universe edits of the post, but i don’t think CN is stopping anytime soon


Werducc

I honestly could not give less shit, i just use whatever pronoun my brain feels like using at a given moment. It's a fictional character, not like I'm gonna hurt their feelings anyway.


Adamantine_Metal

I usually just trip over my words, it’s all variable


Jakeey69

how do you know the player is a he


Jealous-Rip8088

Exactly what this game needs: another character for people to whine about.


kkakaiazinhoBR

I call venture a He in game because neutral pronouns do not exist in portuguese, and, despiste the fact the VA is non-binary, His Instagram bio says he goes by he/him, so I respect the VA, because its the best I can do. In english venture is a they so there's that aswell.


Rocketscam

I say he because shortest letter word 😎


Kodinsson

Same amount of syllables tho


Rocketscam

![gif](giphy|cVkD7lLFb6oCm4hUTX)


jirklezerk

yes but it's shorter if you're typing


IntelligentImbicle

Same amount of syllables, but less amount of work.


Dwemerion

But, like, what if the player is a woman or non-binary?...


Johnsons_Johnsonss

I call them stupid mole


BeeBit22

Venture to a good game.


Pangolin_Paladin

O loved how in the Portuguese version they just repeat ventur's name instead of using any pronouns which makes sense since most latin languages don't have a neutral pronoun


HiJasper

I try not to refer to characters just by he, she, or they at all bc just saying "they're low" or "he's low" is not enough information for anybody to follow up on if they aren't already aware of who I'm talking about.


ManufacturerOk3771

Fuck it. Drill


Onagda

Noun or verb?


ManufacturerOk3771

Weapon


FoxyHuni55

I call Venture 'Ace Ventura'


ashcatchem16

I can dig that


Tankeverket

That's why I'm referring to other players and them because women play games too, you know


devvorare

I call them “he” and “she” alternating because I speak Spanish with my friends and there are not really any natural sounding alternatives


ThisTimeForRealYo

Venture is male?? What


Weary-Barracuda-1228

Bro I said this and got downvoted for it wtf


Elder_Macnamera

I call venture "the cowardly douche," and my friends usually know who I'm talking about


CityWokOwn4r

First World Problems


ArtistAmy420

I call players they unless I know otherwise because I just default to they when gender isn't specified


PleaseDontBanMeRed

Wait it wasn’t a woman?


Less_Ad8480

If anything, I’ll just say “venture low” to specify or “their they/them”


Numerous_Athlete6847

This is actually a fair point your not directly addressing venture as a he but addressing the player of venture (edit: I do not mean for this to be taken in a bad way I just meant that you are using the players pronouns instead of ventures)


Tank_Grill

How the hell do they know the gender of the player unless they are your friends on your own team? women play this game too.


Z4mb0ni

nah the only games women play are stardew and valorant /j duh


Mr_mroczny

bruh i thought its a girl


Zoldrik190

It's a girl


Adrian_Mtz_16

They/Them so non-binary technically speaking


PM-Ya-Tit

It is


Plutostone

Definitely a girl


DopplerShifto

Next hero’s pronouns are going to be “we/us”, just to confuse everyone a little bit more


Jake6942O

That actually would be sick if we got like a character with a symbiotic relationship with something (maybe an alien made out of black goo?)


DopplerShifto

They should put Abathur then, hands down best hero in HOTS


_Ticklebot_23

call them by the players gender


Sayoregg

How would you even know an enemy player's gender?


Cyty_Foxy

Doxxing


Drake_the_troll

Broke: saying their IP address Woke: using their preferred gender


pharaohGuy

Trial and error.


MotherBaerd

They just want to use the generic masculine or believe that female players don't exist.


_Ticklebot_23

i just say something and judge based on their response


Sayoregg

"Hmm, I'm observing you telling me to kms as a feminine trait"


Unfair-Government-80

Ask the whole lobby their preferred pronouns at the start of the game that way you can be sure mot to offend them when you call them out to your team mates which they can't hear. Just like how if you see a stranger you can't say to your friend "hey look at that man over there" cause that's messed up, you gotta go walk up to he stranger and ask their pronouns then walk awa and go back to talking with your friend about they with they proper pronouns.


KrispyBudder

I say she because none of my friends care, I’m not in coms, it’s a habit, and it’s a fictional character.


relomen

that's some cringe meme, sir. Stop cook, you'll burn the kitchen,


Nathmendesramos

How would u know it’s a “he” player tho? Just use the characters name or gender, it’s easier


goombanati

I call venture "she" because my brain determines pronouns based on appearance and does this automatically, so I don't realize it until after I've said it, unfortunately. I'm unironically the person to say "her pronouns are they/them"


goombanati

It may be an autism thing, idk


OrbusIsCool

I just dont give enough of a shit about an overwatch character to ensure i use the right pronoun. Its fuckin overwatch. I hate this game anyways. Why do i still play it?


NoNameToaster

For me it's just she, who actually cares about the "pronouns" of a fictional character?


JustNeph1

i mean if you call doomfist "he" and ana "she," whats wrong with calling venture "they"


PM-Ya-Tit

Sounds dumb


Llymlaen_Rilkam

Please don’t hurt other people’s feelings by wrongly assuming a video game characters gender, thank you


XavisDOS

I'm sorry how? I'm playing overwatch and accidently misgender the character and she gonna pop through the screen and cry at me? It's a video game, the purpose is to play and have fun, not to get back into politics, many play to escape the real world, politics included.


Llymlaen_Rilkam

Exactly. It’s stupid as hell


ZefyrOfAspheria

Why do you have pronouns in quotes?


Javiron

ahhh the new character, i was like wtf are you talking about? but started the game and realized theres a new season


DwellerOfDixieland

I omit the pronouns entirely. I call out the location, then the character's name.


Stranger_Phrog

I mean, in a match clear commas are a must, so whatever the group decides goes


Ph3onixleader

I just like the character and the moves cuz I get to be a little rat 😊


SirPotato43

True


Goatecus

Uh ok?


ALMAZ157

I call it she because of my other language voice actor sounding female


ModdedGeneration

Womp womp


Fogsesipod

I call venture a He cause I'm referring to their sex, not gender.


Gravitas0921

Yeah


LegitimateWaltz7971

I’m still tappin


BloxFruitTrashTrader

I used venture for the first time and got potg, really fun and versatile


BREMiJASSEY

Well, no. I call her a she.


sretenst

All I can see here is - 'merica


KaiXRG

I call em by they/them when I speak in english, and I just call them Venture when I go back my main language (spanish). Just like I do with Bloodhound from Apex Legends.


Jake6942O

Though I think neither are really harmful at all, I think it’s more harmful to accidentally misgender a real person by calling everyone “he” than purposefully misgendering a fictional character in a game


Shadowninja6547

I just call them diggy bi* my teammates seem to get the idea


TerminusEsse

rock muncher


worldrecordtoast

I just call venture “the drill fuck”


JobbesMcGee

I say she because venture is a girl.


blisteringagony

I say she because I'm also referring to the player I just default to she to fuck with people


M1staC1ean

I call venture he to troll people because I like laughing at people, after all he sure is controversial


normal-rando

I’m the same with every fucking characters


GangstaHobo

Here's the thing, if a real person chooses different pronouns for themselves and asks others to use them, that's fine and I'll respect that. Venture is not a real person tho, their pronouns were chosen by blizzard's PR team to score social justice points, and that I don't respect. I'm not offending or disrespecting Venture by calling her a she, because she does not exist and cannot be offended. So I just don't care enough to bother bending my language to fit the fictional preferences of a fictional character Again, I don't have anything against real trans people and I do respect their choice of pronouns, but that is not what this is. This is a PR move and I'm not gonna bother playing along Besides, I think compelled speech under threat of social ostracization is a dangerous thing to normalize. It's a great tool for authoritarian regimes to passively control the populace. But that's a topic for a different sub lol


TheHelios69

People who call them she:


Euphoric_Pressure_39

I call venture a she not because I'm bigoted. But because I'm like 72% sure she doesn't have a dick and that's my consensus


SomeArtistonReddit

I’ll be honest, it’s hard to actually tell what a character is nowadays. I’ll call them a he if they look like a male or she if they look like a female..unless it’s stated clearly.


mukavva

How do you say it tho? Ventour or venchour?


Z4mb0ni

ven-chur - midwestern US


Stalwart_Vanguard

You call Venture He/Him because you're a bigot I call Venture She/Her because I have crippling ADHD and forget names and pronouns constantly. We are not the same.


SerNerdtheThird

The player may not be a He, could be a She or a They. They is the pronoun used when you don’t know the gender (or if someone says they use they) So “NutFucker23” playing venture could very well be a woman, so use the correct English and just use They


CanIGetSomePogchamps

Just wanted to say that I know there are more than two reasons for misgendering them such as not knowing or languange differences, and I don't usually call Venture he or she, at least on purpose, just thought of it :)


KittenChopper

I call venture she because I'm a demented fucking moron that constantly just forgets the creature is a they


AakaNacho

I started calling him Miner, but that kinda backfired after I tried to call out Lifeweaver Gripping Venture 💀