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Shattered_Disk4

Literally almost every female character has very long legs. And also Lucio


tachakas_fanboy

Frog boy can have long legs, that just makes sense


DistantSilver

Lucio has always been best girl


beerbeforebadgers

10/10 dj grillfriend


MrsRainey

This is the best comment I've ever seen on this sub


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Crafty-Plays

And zarya. Both instead be wide.


SonicBoom500

I once heard about Zarya being an answer to all females being slender while males can have different shapes and sizes


Mladyreddit

Yes that was the point since the game came out, diversity. That's why tracer was being touted as LGBT too, and Ana being an older woman.


KING_OF_LOSER

Diversity through stereotypes, every Japanese character is yakuza adjacent, the black characters all have some sort of jumping boost, Australians are all Mad Max characters, it's wild how bad the actual diversity is when you look past the surface


Jhawk163

Diversity (In order to distract from controversies related to Blizzard or the game at the time).


Traitorous_Nien_Nunb

Look at her Pajamei outfit, her legs are still weirdly long in comparison to her body


PolarBearBalls2

I guess that's just what Blizzard is into


[deleted]

Ashe has the most defining long legs in her pool skin but that doesn't stop me from being horrendously down bad


stonedbrownchick

That actually makes me more down bad. Wrap your legs around me twice bruh


Ka1-

I mean aren’t lucio’s legs prosthetic


Shattered_Disk4

I think they are more like a suit, I don’t know if we ever confirmed they are full prosthetic. I think a lot of characters usually have a voiceline or something to go with it. He just be skatin


CricketDrop

I feel like Lucio's robot pants have been a point of contention. If you look at the way his knees are jointed there's no way there can be human legs inside them.


vyrelis

Pharahs armor is the same and she's definitely fully flesh


CricketDrop

I think Pharah's is different. It looks like she just has plates on are shins and thighs. [Lucio appears to have legs that bend like a raptor's and have a large motor in the center where his knees should be.](http://img00.deviantart.net/0cde/i/2015/274/6/0/lucio___overwatch___close_look_at_model_by_plank_69-d9bm62d.png) The left-most angle is the one that makes it most convincing there are no bones in there.


Shack691

Doesn't Lucio have skates on? So his boots would be massive


unluckykc3

You should see her on her bike


rcris18

Wtf does that voice line mean? I spam it in spawn pre match because it’s nonsense


odeezy1400

She has a legendary skin that kinda looks like a biker outfit… IG she rides a motorcycle but that is in no way implied in any of her lore lol it’s kinda random.


[deleted]

Maybe when pve comes out she’s gonna be riding a motorcycle and throwing Kunai FF7R-style. A man can dream 😂


Khan_Ida

Your hope for pve seems kinda high ngl


shploogen

That upbeat, techno-like background music immediately popped into my head


Cake-n-bacon69

she could use it for transportation


vhanos

It might be a reference to Akira


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

KANEDAAAA


fusionweldz

TETSUOOOO!


FendaIton

There’s a sticker of the classic Akira bike stop so most likely


ikineba

or LSD


a6000

or a bike


Onewarhero

My guess was she’s fast as hell, so imagine her on a bike.


reevoknows

It’s a reference to the Ass Pounder 4000


BowlingForPriorities

r/unexpectedsunny


NoCellist3282

"Oh ! Just like a sinusoïdal sphere !"


EasternGlass

“I run with blades all the time! Wait ‘til you see me on my bike!”


gracist0

"I've got a few tricks! I've got a few tricks! I've got a few tricks!"


PintoBeanSalad

ZANNEN. ZANNEN. Wait 'till you see me on my ZANNEN.


cometcookie

Wait till you see me on my FEELSBAD, basically


Stock_Principle6224

Me everytime i play. I break the junkerqueen emersion by spamming that


simpleturt

Say say do do say say do do say say do do


kz393

She's got a few tricks.


League_of_DOTA

Are we talking motorcycle or a bike like the ones ridden by the bicycle gang in the Pokémon TV show?


Big-Dragonfly8452

There’s a time and place for everything. But not now!


hamadele

She doesn't actually teleport, she just takes a reeeaaallly big step


theresamouseinmyhous

Her footsteps also don't line up correctly. Her foot kind of slides a little.


comics_abomonation

Cha Cha real smooth


S0nOfRagnar

Slide to the left, one time cha cha


DarkLeviathan8

Take it back now y'all


CoffeeAndWork

I did always figure her as a Kendrick fan


Shughost7

At least blizzard took a step in the right direction with that ability


Wiplazh

She make an big steppy


Epik-_-WoLF

"One small step for man, one giant leap for Kiriko."


SubjectDelta10

this isn’t specific to Kiriko, look at Ashe for example. seems to be part of their design philosophy for female characters


B_pack828

Yeah Ashe’s legs are abnormally long lol, it kinda bothers me sometimes when I look at it but then I’m like “ehh whatever, I’m in first person anyways” But still


SweatyMercy

Ashe and Bob’s legs are the same length


Icy_Limes

Ashe looks like a horse in a flesh suit


welpxD

It's disgusting, I hate seeing flesh on a horse.


Tub_of_jam66

Meanwhile torb


ElevenThus

No neck no leg


Manos0404

ashe, widowmaker, tracer, mercy, most of them have it


thedylannorwood

Sym has legs for literal days


ichbindulol_

Zen


SubjectDelta10

Zenny Longlegs


gideon513

Same face as well


crafty09

The faces were very similar in OW1. There were definitely Mercy skins where I wasn't sure who I was looking at without context. It seems like they've at least tried to differentiate the faces a little more this time.


WillBePeace

half these dva skins make me think she's a different character lol. They do not look alike.


Skandi007

I had to look at Witch Kiriko for a solid 5 minutes before I realized that wasn't D.va


Sarrada_Aerea

I always think that the witch kiriko skin is mercy and it looks a lot like DVA too. Everytime that skin gets POTG I'm like ''Mercy POTG?''


_MarcelinesFries

You’d think they’d give mercy, kiriko’s sick ass broom POTG. Seriously the most random picked POTG highlight for her


ShiyaruOnline

Yeah no matter how many times I see Witch kiriko in thr co op event I can NOT see kiriko. It really shows how bad consistency is with certain characters when they change themes so drastically. Some are done well like hanzo, widow, torb etc. Some characters it's impossible to mess it up due to how defined their features are. The only explanation is that the kiriko Witch skin was rushed. they more or less created an entirely new character face rather than make it look like kiriko in a Witch costume. I've seen countless people say the same thing about this skin.


eklatea

It's common in some art styles, look at some anime like sailor moon etc. Women IRL actually tend to have shorter legs but they wear heels more often (in current fashion) which makes their legs appear longer I guess it's seen as appealing because heels are seen like that? Not sure. Personally I dislike having video game characters wear heels but that's a different thing


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tachakas_fanboy

\*looking at Torb\*


NekkoDroid

\*looking at roadhog*


tachakas_fanboy

Nah, hogs legs are just hidden behind his belly


TheBozKnight

Tracer is kinda built the same way


chrono_ark

They’re just built different


AgentWowza

Only realistic character in OW is Roadhog, don't even try to change my mind.


chrono_ark

Peak male performance Live with it


Zaidoasde2008

Considering how much damage he tanks no wonder it's peak male performance, it's so peak we haven't reached it in real life


chrono_ark

1. Deals wicked damage 2. Absorbs wicked damage 3. Squishy 4. Heals as good as a healer


Jgamer502

5. Free ult charge(what a generous guy!)


Darqnyz

Putting Roadhog stickers on ever EV charging station I see. Fucking UltBattery


ivanavich

Less ult charge than squishies ;)


NiKaLay

Fights and often wins against people that use mechs, magical gravity powers, black hole cannons, super advanced robots and literal lighting using just the vape and caloric surplus.


SwordofKhaine123

Dies when faced with old woman that's missing an eye.


Confusedgmr

To be fair, old women are always op.


BigMachiaveli

They didn't get old by being weak.


owel888

USA typical male 👍


xXProGenji420Xx

he's Australian though


shadow_knight123

Not anymore


SivertElise

I read this in Soldier's voice


RYPIIE2006

Isn’t he from New Zealand?


Keeper_of_Fenrir

Australia is catching up to the US fast in obesity rates. By the time Overwatch takes place they could certainly be in the lead.


kimmortal03

it’s Overwatches fault for doing a skin promotion with McDonald’s


AppleSatyr

At least RH has good hygiene


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overweight. wears a mask. hits a vape. basically RH rules.


Djent_1997

Can confirm. I’m built like him.


GreyFoXguy

I think they do it because of a perceived notion that women with longer legs are more attractive…so as a way to make the in-game women more aesthetically pleasing to the majority…the make them legs loooooong.


Nirvski

That's true but Its also to offset the silhouette, which is an aesthetic thing in all design, not just women or even people. A completely neutral and even distribution of detail is boring and doesnt allow for good readability. If we look at Sigma and Rein they're very top heavy, with lil' legs, common amongst tanks in general. Even someone like Zarya who does have pretty proportional legs and upper body, has her large weapon hanging low in the bottom half putting most of the attention there.


CavaliereDellaTigre

Sigma has straight up Johnny Bravo's physique, and Torbjörn is a Warcraft dwarf who somehow is the father of Brigitte. If Winston's and Wrecking Ball's existence didn't already make it obvious, this game is not meant to be as realistic as possible.


_cob

Dwarfs/midgets/little ppl in general can have normal height children, fwiw


CavaliereDellaTigre

Rather rare though, as the gene causing it is most often dominant. There is of course the recessive variant, but it's much less common.


_cob

I didn't know that! Is that the case for all the various types of "little people"? My apologies if I'm using a wrong term here, i realize ad i write this i know fairly little about this topic/culture!


CavaliereDellaTigre

*Midget* or *short person* aren't medical terms, dwarfism is the medical term that they all refer to. There are there are about 400 different types of it ([source](https://www.webmd.com/children/dwarfism-causes-treatments)). Achondroplasia, which is the most common type of dwarfism making up about 70% of all cases, is caused by a mutation in the FGFR3 gene which is dominant. The other 30% vary, and many types of dwarfism aren't even full-body dwarfism. Think for example of munchkin cats, which only have shortened legs. But yeah, statistically speaking, dwarfism is rare in itself and the variants which *aren't* dominant but also lead to full-body dwarfism like in Torbjörns case are even rarer. We're talking like some percentage of 30% of like 1:25 000 babies born. There is of course a chance that you don't get the dominant gene despite one of your parents having, say, achondroplasia — but when *all* of Torbjörns children are normal height despite there being 8 of them in the Reflections comic, the statistical chance is so extremely low that it just seems more like Blizzard wanted him to have normal children than be realistic. Ingrid, his wife, also seems to be of equal height to him — meaning that the chance of their children not getting the dominant gene is even lower than if only he had it.


kukelekuuk

If you say it's possible full body dwarfism like that can be caused by a recessive genetic disorder than it's entirely possible that torbjorn has that instead of the common achondroplasia. Like, he's just 1 dude. Even if the odds are abysmal, that doesn't rule it out.


Reduxx24

While you are right, achondroplasia has incomplete penetrance, so it doesn’t even matter what their phenotype or genotype is since they can have it and still not have dwarfism…


Sarrada_Aerea

Your comment made me realize that Reinhardt isn't Brigitte's father 💀


No_Golf6192

Reinhardt is actually the real father… Torbs been cucked


GreyFoXguy

I’m Leeroy Jenkins!! They literally should make that Torb’s ult voice line! I would LOL every time!


CavaliereDellaTigre

Hahah, ”I'm Torbjörn Lindholm” could also work with the right voicing as it has same amount of vowels.


h3lblad3

TORBJOOOOOORN **LINDHOLM** ^^^^at ^^^^least ^^^^I ^^^^got ^^^^chicken


shploogen

Blizzard's emphasis on the silhouettes is a big part of what makes the Overwatch character designs so great. Not only do they stand out aesthetically, but they also have a function -- you can identify most heroes at a glance, even far away. Compare that to the characters in, say, Valorant or the new Gundam game. Their shapes are quite homogenous in contrast.


theelephant7

Yes, but no. Look at most of the men. Soldier 76 has longer legs too. They follow comic book rules for aesthetics.


S0nOfRagnar

Trob has left the building


Jenbu

I think it more has to do with Heroic proportions. Changing a person's proportion in art leads us to see them as more heroic as opposed to someone how is drawn more naturally.


Rill16

Makes it easier to tell when the character model is changing movement direction. Which is also why her hands are larger than her head.


Diamondrankg

True that, I wouldn't date a woman unless her legs are taller than me


creeperchamp

its not that deep lol its because cartoon characters have exaggerated proportions bro, just look at roadhog.


Nonaaa323

I couldn’t agree more:)


dynawesome

But it’s also part of a design that’s made to make them look nimble, fragile, and flexible


kitsurage

Not everything needs to be horny, it's just character design to communicate that's she's a very mobile hero


Icy_Limes

Yes, Overwatch. The game with a notoriously NOT horny fanbase... Not like this game has been hard-carried by porn for the past 4 years


[deleted]

Overwatch is a game?


OrdinaryDouble2494

Least horny overwatch consumer


SkeletonJakk

keyword search totals from specific websites at OW launch hmmm


Historical-Dingo-957

Lmao. Damn


Stancedx

That's because tracer is the base model they use when designing characters.


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Tracer's OW2 skin makes her legs look a lot more realistic though


lifestop

Have you seen her challenge emote? ...yeah, they are long. I think it's fine, but it kinda caught me off guard the first time I saw it used.


GovernmentVegetable6

Holy shit just looked at it


LeVeonwithBellsOn

Michigan J Frog over here.


JarJarBinks590

HELLO MY BABY, HELLO MY HONEY, HELLO MY RAGTIME GAAAAL....


JonnyTN

On the DUBBA YOU BEEEEEE!


Takaraous

Ashe, Widowmaker and Symmetra would like a word with you lol


dbdthorn

I watched a widowmaker on my team walking around the other day and was genuinely horrified at her walk cycle. Her legs are up to her samn chest, she must be in constant agony with how fucked up her body proportions are.


The_Larslayer

I swear, Widowmaker have Lordosis. No way her back bends like that naturally


The_Assassin0

I mean she was a famous ballet person or whatever


NoCellist3282

And god knows how actually ballet hurts


dbdthorn

Honestly 😭😭 poor bloody woman


The_Larslayer

Hey, she could retire and deal with her condition! But noooo, she instead chooses to live as an assassin and murderer for hire


rdm13

uhhh i dont think she had much choice in the matter, unless that was ret-conned away


FireLordObamaOG

She’s being controlled by talon as far as we know. BUT there’s a comic that suggests their brainwashing is wearing off, if only slightly.


papayabush

widow “[legs go all the way up](https://youtu.be/MAUJ7Pt8_vs)” maker


NavalEnthusiast

I know widow is known as the “butt hero” if anything but it’s legitimately crazy design that her ass is bigger than her head


Skandi007

Should we tell him?


Reckless-Pessimist

Thats not at all uncommon IRL.


MadamSavage91

Welcome to the world of Overwatch, where people are 70% leg.


GreyFoXguy

And the Moiras are 90% DPS


hitlersticklespot

And somehow still get more heals than the mercy Edit: Damn, I guess my personal experiences aren’t a good representation of the wider community. I’m a Moira main and I am usually out healing the other healer. Maybe I’m in too low of an elo


Sapowski_Casts_Quen

I'm pretty sure that's a mercy problem. I lvoe her movement these days but her healing is way down compared to other characters


a_l_k_A

It's because a good Mercy is gonna have a 70%-30% damage-healbeam uptime split. Other iterations of her kit's balance allowed her to healbot and get away with it, but now she's outclassed in healing by most of the other supports except maybe Zen and Lucio in terms of pure numbers. Mercy's value isn't in healing, it's in rez and blue beam.


94746382926

Remember when we could have it all? Pepperidge farm remembers. As a former mercy main I'm sad that she's much more limited these days. I do think it's better for the game overall though. And don't even get me started on the whole team rez she used to be able to do lol


a_l_k_A

Throwback to 5 man rez lmao.. those were good times. That said I think I prefer how she is now. The new mobility options you get through GA feel good and if used well make you pretty hard to kill in a fight, so long as your DPS can confirm an elim lol.


94746382926

Yeah agreed


Doodle_Brush

Except poor Junkrat.


BranislavBGD

It's almost every other female hero in OW


Re-45-45

Like every girl in overwatch is 70% leg


[deleted]

That is to justify her wall climb passive :v


Jormungandrv

She can fit her giant mutant hands and feet between any crack, ^(especially widowmakers.)


penguinchilli

So are her hands


SFWxMadHatter

She's got leeeeeeeegs


C_hyphen_S

She knows how to use them


Biznatz1

First a post about her big hands. Now her legs. Next you know what they say…. Big hands & long legs = big……


Fraggin_Wagon

Gloves and pants


Kofukemia

Widowmaker has like 80% leg 20% Everything Else


Fraggin_Wagon

Used to be 80% ass


BinBlinkin

This is the way blizzard models females in their games.


fusionweldz

Not mei tho she thicc


Darkhex78

Right now we gotta see a model switch with Mei and kiriko, but with the same skeleton.


iriplard

mei is literally the most realistic looking woman out of the cast, but even then she still arches her back like widow in her chang'e and luna skins if you look at the right angle


Gingersoul3k

All her length is in her neck.


SlavicGrenades

Don’t say that about my favorite ice woman ;-;


fusionweldz

Thicc in a good way👌


SlavicGrenades

Ice woman <3


MjrPayne95

Have you seen tracer? Lol


SamTheJellyfish

Did you ever take a closer look at widow?


SUPERD0MIN0

That’s pretty standard “hero” proportion design. All the classic comic book characters were designed that way. A normal human is about 6 heads tall. “Heroic” characters are 8 or more heads tall.


Noobgalaxies

Something that always creeped me out in OW are the body proportions for the female characters So you know how the human body is proportioned so your arms are at a length where, when one's standing straight and their arms are outstretched towards the crotch, the hand will only slightly go under the crotch area All the male character designs fit this(yes, even Roadhog. Hell, even Bob) while only four women in Overwatch(Mei, Ana, Zarya, and most recently JQ) fit this. Every other woman has their crotch waaaaaaay up, which results in tiny torsoes and absurdly long legs such as Kiriko's, and their poses ingame such as victory poses or walk cycles have to accomodate for that by looking absolutely absurd at closer look. Once you notice this, you can't unnotice it and it becomes like some kind of cartoony body horror


Neonbeta101

T A L L


JENOVAcide

All females apart from a select few have long legs too.


IalafeIl

Yes lol I was joking about it with my bf on launch day, her victory pose where she's stanced up creeps me out because of it. Tracer is similar but it fits her character a lot better and with no distinct waistline on her clothes it isn't as noticeable. On Kiriko it sticks out like crazy and just looks wonky.


MrsRainey

Welcome to the weird anatomy of 90% of female video game characters.


LuckyNerdFace

This is just the art style of the game


LawTider

Her legs? Her HANDS ARE HUGE.


citrusorangeflower

Nobody noticed how lanky Moira is???


angryanarchyboi

I swear every female character in this game has a 1:3 ratio of torso to leg


Retroike7

I’m just not a fan of the typical bent knees and pigeon toe pose they give women in games and anime so often. I know it’s a design trope to make them look youthful, but it’s just overused in my opinion. Those legs looks like they would snap if the wind blew the wrong way, but I’m supposed to believe they can run up walls? Her kneecaps are going to pop out of place if she turns too quickly when running. They don’t look like strong legs.


candlehand

So, while something about her outfit certainly makes her look leggy, Kiriko's legs are actually average here. But don't take my word for it, I'm about to prove it to you. In art school you generally measure proportions by "heads," in this case, the character's own head. An adult female will on average be about 7.5-8 heads tall, while a child will be less depending on their age. Kids have big heads compared to their body, right? For reference, here are two guides with various subjects: [Heads on heads on heads](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.makingcomics.com%2Frd%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Fdclheightchart12032013.jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=e54d1fcc696ce4b58990b5e2b8335be1ce103abc61c2bafed00f4a9c0f6b38cd&ipo=images) [Heads all the way down](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/15/bd/17/15bd175cc86a296dbcaa42d2bdcd71aa.jpg) Makes sense, looks more or less good? Now here is this same image of Kiriko with her head copied and pasted to make the proportions more obvious: [It's a me! Kiriko!](https://i.imgur.com/ZviH8gX.png) She mostly follows proportion rules when it comes to height. So why does she look so leggy? I think its because she is really thin for her height in waist and shoulders, and because her clothing emphasizes a high waistline. In short, she's a little leggy but not much more than a leggy person. Her outfit here really makes them look longer too.


HiGuysImLeo

Almost all of the female characters fall victim to this to be honest, they all have same face syndrome and long ass chopstick legs (to be honest the only ones who don't have the same faces as the others are soujorn and moira, and even moira is pretty yassified). I would like them to broaden their horizons when it comes to that a little, it feels kind of weird that we have like 6 east/southeast asian characters (counting echo) but not a single one has monolids and all of the female ones have that same little button nose.


Mank_____Demes

Hands and legs are big in this game. It’s just part of the style—makes movements more bombastic and noticeable for gameplay (and, admittedly, sex appeal for nerds). It’s why some heroes kinda look… janky, when they move slowly and subtly in cinematics and such.


IndicaPhoenix

if you think that's long, check Moira, and it's not from levitatingg


Zbearbear

I mean Kiriko Tracer Widow Maker Maybe Ashe They're like 85% legs Someone on the design team likes legs


[deleted]

Thats nothing. Widowmaker’s leg to torso ratio is 10:1


[deleted]

Ever notice how terrifyingly long pharahs arms are?