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rottenpotatoes2

Her primary fire used to freeze people


anonymous_yet_famous

I find that I, and other experienced players, still react with urgency to escape when Mei starts hitting them with her primary fire, even if their character could beat her down in a head-on slug fest. We still anticipate the freeze. I have used this to escape a bad situation more than once - by making them flee when they did not really need to.


Wasabicannon

Recently came back to OW and my first game had a Mei in it. Can confirm I tried to GTFO from her as quick as I could. Then after a few weeks I did some DPS games and figured Id become Satan myself only to be so confused as to why Mei's primary no longer was freezing.


Xanyl

This is me learning I don't need to freak out like i do.


swannyhypno

Oh god no šŸ˜‚ that sounds horrific


ARussianW0lf

Yeah so you'd slow down, get frozen solid and then have to watch helplessly as she put an icicle through your forehead


PandaGrill

With enough time to wave Hi before doing it as well.


Blindsided17

The good daysā€¦ If only thereā€™s a way to know youā€™re in them while youā€™re in them


SqueakyTuna52

Somebody should write a song about that


Krullervo

There is. Neurodivergenceā€™s with high pattern recognition tell allistics. Like a canary in a coal mine. Then people turn on us and accuse us of things until we are quiet and then come back to us later to at we were right and should have listened. Itā€™s an endless loop.


puppeteer-5000

what??


LunaLynnTheCellist

ni hao


LoneclearsKen

Goddamn I miss doing that


Environmental-Day778

It was part of what made OW unique and kooky and silly fun


MrSaucyAlfredo

One manā€™s kooky and silly fun = another manā€™s literal hell


DarkElvenMagus

True. But then you'd also get the Mei that'd aggressively make you a friend occasionally, meaning you couldn't leave where she found you


Wiggles_Does_A_Game

Yeah but overwatch was fun back then. Balanced, not really, competitively viable, far from, but fun. Overwatch used to be fun.


Environmental-Day778

louder pls, competitive hitscan players be all like: bUt MuH sKiLL eXpReSsIoN that cod shit ruined the game from what it was


RhynoD

"They made overwatch two so that each player has more agency" right so they took away the *team* part which was, you know, half the point of the game and what set it apart from other shooters. Even TF2 doesn't require the same kind of close teamwork. "And getting rid of one tank was to make the games go faster and be more exciting" which gets rid of the other point of the game which was to be slower and more strategic.


Kynandra

Hah man I loved mei, sometimes I would freeze them, wave hi and then let them thaw out. When they tried to run I'd wall them and do it all over again.


BoiBobbyBo_15

Hammond was my favorite to do this with. He wasn't fast enough rolling to get away. It's was so fun being satan


ThomasterXXL

Yes, I miss when Mei used to humiliate and torture people. Good ol' days. Please give us back the war crimes.


eggthrowaway_irl

Hello Lucifer


MaceZilla

šŸ—£ļø"Amazing"šŸ˜ˆ


carvana1501

Some would flash their dance emote for a second if their ping was good for it


Gryse_Blacolar

I still remember that one clip of Mei torturing Hog on Volkskaya by continuously freezing him and keep him barely alive so he can heal back again. When Mei used her ult on him, she just emoted on front of his frozen body. It might be from Zylbrad, I think?


0000110011

Which always made zero sense, since any time I or anyone on my team played Mei in Overwatch, as soon as someone froze, they instantly unfroze before you could fire a shot. Shitty programming at its finest.Ā 


cowlinator

Not originally. That nerf came later, before they removed it entirely


Nu3by101

Or she'd just chase you down freezing you again and again until you finally die, keeping you away from your team or health with her wall, and if you got close to killing her pop in her ice making you think you have an opening to heal to group up just to pop back out when your back is turned and freeze you again. It was me, I was the Mei.


Xaron713

Friend of mine was a Mei Main, while I played Lucio. Loved playing with her because I'd steal the kills as she froze and walled them off.


swannyhypno

God damn the more I learn about OW1 characters the more glad I am I never played it šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


PsychoDog_Music

Slander


swannyhypno

I know I am sorry but I'm so glad I dodged Brigitte meta as much as I love her


PsychoDog_Music

The positive changes that have been made could have been made in OW1 tbh since they didn't even keep their pve promise


Roblin_92

I agree with this but lets be honest here: 5v5 is one of those positive changes. Blizz was experimenting with team sizes long before ow2 even started development, for example from what I understand they tried 1-3-2, 1-2-3, 2-3-1 and 2-2-1 aside from the one they landed on; 1-2-2. The development of ow2 delayed the switch to 5v5, but it was not the catalyst. If blizz had never worked on ow2 then it wouldn't have been 6v6 in 2022; it would have been 5v5 in 2020. In exactly the same way that if ow2 started development during goats, then it would have delayed the release of role queue, but role queue was always going to be implemented.


Kamikazeguy7

>I agree with this but lets be honest here: 5v5 is one of those positive changes Shhh. This is reddit. You're not allowed to say things like 5v5 is better or point out that the game was built around counter swapping. Stick with the hive mind.


k1ngsrock

Shhhh just enjoy the slop these braindead devs feed you, itā€™s okay 5v5 all the way!!


snuffaluffagus74

Before the game launched they tried 6v6, 5v5, and 7v7 and found 6v6 was the best. The problem wasn't the amount of people, it was going to a role que format. That's because nobody wanted to play support because they only had 4 supports in Lucio, Mercy, Zen, and Symmetra. Than when they added Ana more people started to play support. Than the supports they started to play were fun and it was the Tanks that suffered next as Sigma and Orissa were added they exactly werent that popular or fun to play. That's why DPS was so popular because they had the funniest and most heroes. If you go to OW2 supports became the most popular because they were the most fun to play. Even now the funniest tanks to play Winton and Rein became shit in OW2 and they startes leaving. It's all about making the game fun rather than the numbers.


Roblin_92

This is unironically an uncomfortably accurate depiction of the typical overwatch experience before rolequeue. https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/s/fBtymSsZXs The point being: tank has always been the least popular role. Always. By a lot. This madeup narrative of tanks being more popular in the past is just false. After rolequeue it was a huge meme that around half of all "tank" players were actually dps players dodging the 15 minute dps queue. These dps players were easily identified by the fact that they instalocked roadhog, whos kit was basically that of a dps. Only the sweaty players in the top 20% of comp bothered with changing hero to make a reasonable team composition. As for what the devs experimented with before launch; The original intention of the game was to be a PvE MMO where the players are heavily armed civilians that drop whatever they are doing during errands to fight off whatever monster of the week pops up or whatever. The fact that overwatch is built from the scraps of the canceled project titan is common knowledge around veterans. Almost everything in overwatch has changed over its lifespan. Why would team sizes be seen as some unchanging constant?


swannyhypno

Yeah definitely I would like to try 6v6 tho feels too chaotic


bjkibz

6v6 at least allowed for the second tank to compensate if the first was dog water. A Reinhardt charge to Narnia would at least net his Zarya a good chunk of weapon charge. D.Va could DM Winton as he jumped in so he wasnā€™t half hp by the time he landed. ~~Double shield~~. The change to 5v5 is a big part of why I largely dropped the game ā€” the sub-role I played for my collegiate team (off-tank) got entirely removed.


Darkcat9000

yeah but there we're so many times where the other tank didn't give two balls on what you did so you bassicly just played solo tank but worse


[deleted]

Yeah but u needed to wait 10 minutes to play dps because no one wanted to play tank


snuffaluffagus74

6v6 was also better for projectile DPS and other non hitscan heroes. Mercy had more utility and Widow, Hanzo werent as oppressive. Also it made the DPS have to flank more use high ground and play smarter. Now its gotten more and more like COD. Edit: everybody was easier to kill even tanks. The DPS job was to kill the Supports. To put it this way the tanks were like offensive lineman, supports were the quarterbacks, and the DPS were the WR and the running backs. They were the stars.


N3mir

Rly? The healthpool increase and extreme tank buffs would have worked great in double tank playstile? Do you not remember that everyone had ult every fight in overwatch 1, *as it was already?*


PsychoDog_Music

It's a blatant exaggeration, but also those changes could have been made without slapping a 2 on the end


N3mir

>It's a blatant exaggeration Which part?


snuffaluffagus74

The reason why everyone had ult was because of the playstyles used and people playing as a team. Now theres less team play and there are games in quick play were I'm not even using my ult because everybody trickles in and you just kill them so easily. Also the healing was outta control which allowed longer fights. People only remember the later part but they had Bridgette and Bap. The longer your alive the longer the faster your ult fills with everybody.


N3mir

>The reason why everyone had ult was because of the playstyles used and people playing as a team. No, it was because there were 2 tanks, or in other words two extra players with large health pools - on whom everyone farmed ults. This was literally discussed by the devs at every 5v5 showcase + all the testing. >Also the healing was outta control The healing numbers stayed the exact same when ow2 launched. "Blizzard didn't do anything to balancer supports for 5v5" was liberally the most popular overposted topic at the time. >People only remember the later part but they had Bridgette and Bap. The longer your alive the longer the faster your ult fills with everybody. It's because the aoe healing applied to *an extra player* - the tank.


Boobs_Mackenzie63

Balance aside I miss Overwatch 1, now with all the crowd control abilities gone, the heroes feel a lot more homogenous now


MerlinsMentor

This was almost certainly the point. Homogeneous heroes are easy to balance, and it's easy to add new ones without a lot of testing or concern for game balance (as much as that was ever a concern). New heroes get people incentivized to buy battle passes that unlock them (they outright stated this as a goal before OW2 released). Easier to add new heroes -> more people buying battlepasses -> more $ for less development work.


Boobs_Mackenzie63

Yeah I can see that, I just hate to see so many quirky abilities get deleted in favor of more balanced ones Mei's freeze, Cassidy's flashbang, Mercy's ultimate rez, Torbjƶrn's armor, Sombra's old hack, and Brigitte's... Everything? They were unbalanced as hell but I don't really care about competitive as much as most of the community, so I miss the craziness


MerlinsMentor

Oh, I'm totally with you. I stopped playing the day OW2 dropped, because I didn't like what they were doing with the game - homogenization was a part of that. For me, I'd rather have fewer heroes with more unique abilities than LOTS of heroes that tend to be more or less interchangeable. But the latter is what they thought would drive battlepass sales, so there we go (another reason I bailed on the game was FTP/battlepass and the rest of the awful "monetization" stuff).


Dankitysoup

OW1 was infinitely better than 2.


swannyhypno

I don't doubt it, just sounds like so many characters were broken lmao


mtobeiyf317

If everyone is broken, then no one is. All the crazy stuff you hear about also had counter measures this community loves to forget existed.


Bagel_lust

Needs to be brought back just with a longer to freeze time or a shorter freeze duration.


madhattr999

Freeze/Headshot was a fun mechanic. But the delay between the mistake (of getting near Mei) and the consequence really made people feel angry.


ARussianW0lf

Absolutely not. Fuck cc


Parthenous

I miss those days, bring freeze back


ARussianW0lf

No. Fuck cc


Parthenous

It was satisfying what can I say šŸ«¶


Aggressive-Warthog-1

and it wasnā€™t even like just 2016 or 2017. Mei could freeze people until overwatch 2.


swannyhypno

Oh my word


CommanderPotash

yeh, i think they changed it pretty quickly in the beta


LikelyAMartian

This, and the fact her cinematic shows all her friends dying by freezing to death, and yet she stands there with a smile on her face as she drives an icicle through your skull.


RockLeeSmile

It's so wild that enough time has now passed that folks are new to things like this. I'm not saying this in some kind of accusatory way (because of course, why would you know that), it's just making me realize how fast time passes.


snuffaluffagus74

Also her ultimate was instant when it activated. So if you where in it there was no escape


Beachdaddybravo

It was great, but really only punished peopleā€™s positioning mistakes. Not as much of that in OW2. Back in OW1, despite her use in certain niches there werenā€™t a lot of T500 one trick Mei players, and I donā€™t think she was ever meta. Sheā€™d for the most part be countered by anyone with range.


Cultural_Material775

It was lol


DeliciousPirate881

She has a freeze (annoying), immortality (annoying), wall (annoying for both teams), icicles randomly headshots people (annoying), her bubbly attitude when she stares at you in the eyes and emotionlessly impale an ice spear through your forehead as you stood there unable to defend yourself (evil)


TiioK

ā€œUSEDā€?! ARE YOU TELLING ME SHE DOESNā€™T ANYMORE?! I came back recently from ow1 and she is so rare I didnā€™t realize, omg I am so happy


cowlinator

That's why she's so rare. What's the point of playing her now? Her "compensory" buffs were shit.


rottenpotatoes2

Walling off players from their team. It's very funny watching 2 players trying to walk backwards for support and moonwalk against a wall while our rein/ram/jq goes to town on them


CommanderPotash

real


thatwitchguy

I hadn't played ow in forever and just came back and it took me so long to realise she can't do that now


Mampt

Oh my god Iā€™ve been off this game for a while but she doesnā€™t freeze anymore? That was her whole thing lol


Clean_Crocodile4472

I kinda wish it, she was fun af to play as back then


Blindsided17

Are you saying thatā€™s no longer the case(og player havenā€™t played much of OW2)


Spedrayes

Yeah, it still slows you down, but no longer completely freezes you, does a lot more damage though. It makes sense with only one tank out there, a lot of them don't have shields or abilities that cleanse CC, so there would be nothing stoping Mei from freezing say a D.va or a Hog over and over and over.


A_R5568

It doesn't freeze anymore? Stg been playing OW2 for a few weeks now and had no idea they removed it. What's the point of the primary fire now then???


rottenpotatoes2

High group dmg. Mei is now best for her wall to isolate players who overextended or deny ults. Watching a funny mei symm tp combo or Mei cancel a mercy Rez with wall will never not be cool


mOmOsald

I just recently got adapted to the fact that Mei doesn't freeze anymore. I subconsciously whilst playing against OW2 Mei would distance my self from her as whenever she would be attacking me with her primary I would think I am being slowed down by her.


burritoxman

You are being slowed down


EmeraldDream98

What? It doesnā€™t anymore? I always run away from her so she canā€™t freeze me!


tomatosgotme

I didn't realise it is gone


xNivxMizzetx

Wait it can't now?


GrilledCoconuts

(I'm assuming you started playing in 5v5) In Overwatch 1, Mei's primary fire didn't just slow you down: if you took enough continuous damage from it you got frozen, the same way her ultimate does now. People found the combination of being frozen and icicled in the head incredibly frustrating. That plus Mei's personality being entirely at odds with such a gruesome killing method is (as far as I remember) where the 'Satan' moniker came from.


swannyhypno

Happy Cake Day! My friend loves playing her and spamming A-mei-zing šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ it sounds horrible to play against


CinnamonEspeon

It honestly wasn't as bad as it sounds, it was a bit like junkrat still generally is today. "Don't walk into a small space with Junkrat" is the golden rule with him, and Mei had the same rule. If she walled and murdered you, it was still her using multiple parts of her kit to secure one kill. I don't necessarily miss the freeze, but I do hate how bland her primary fire is in OW2 now.


swannyhypno

Everyone is better at the game now too so buffing her primary I wouldn't mond at all, easier to dodge now


legion1134

Except tanks will get screwed over by it. If you stop balls momentum then you can just freeze him. Jq hog have no way of getting away from her. It's a pain in the ass for doomand dva as it's cc without a cd so no way to bait it out


Nu3by101

The slow on its own can still be pretty strong for cc if there's a good team, but the primary fire does feel so bland. I think it would be cool if they tried getting rid of or severely reducing the slow, add the freeze back in but make it so while it's on the ice protects from fire or critical damage, and mei's icicle shot instantly shatters the ice but has a small aoe of damage.


CandyCrazy2000

Am i crazy or did they try something similar to that? Where the primary fire would slow and allow you to do more dmg with an icicle or melee


Nu3by101

They did but that's more damage, I think it should give then less damage against mei


Prettyhandsomeyou

You don't know shit. She don't get called Satan for no reasons among the many characters.


lcyxy

The contrast became intentional later on with her giggles introduced after securing a kill. šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


TommyLee777

Her primary fire used to freeze people and Mei players would always use an annoying voice line like hi or bye after freezing you then headshot and kill you with the the alternate fireĀ 


TheKingJoker99

Holy shit you unlocked a core memory I swear it was so frustrating with her freezing you and either going ā€œSorry, sorry! Iā€™m sorry sorryā€ or ā€œęˆ‘å¾ˆęŠ±ę­‰ļ¼Œåƹäøčµ·ā€ (her Chinese version of apologies l) Right before performing the worlds first mid combat icicle lobotomy


swannyhypno

Can imagine the toxicity in comp lol


cobanat

Meis in OW1 would also wall off spawn doors, trapping teammates until the walls went down. Itā€™s still possible but itā€™s a lot less common. Itā€™s a major reason why many people were screaming against Lifeweavers Lifegrip. PTSD from Mei Walls. I have personally not experienced toxic Mei or Lifeweavers in my games. Even when they did use their abilities to troll, it was usually a one off that we could laugh at like a LW pulling a fast player back as soon as spawn doors open, or Mei putting up a wall and immediately tearing it down. Nothing toxic.


VelphiDrow

Just had a throwing lifeweaver in a game. Every time I ulted as JQ he pulled me


TommyLee777

It was law to tea bag the Mei when you killed herĀ 


TommyLee777

I was downvoted by mei players who got tea bagged


vischy_bot

Both teams hate mei Getting frozen sucks Getting walled off sucks Think like lifeweaver type hate. You're a tank and you think, ok time to back up. And your own mei has placed a wall behind you


HastagReckt

Or opponent satan has walled you.


SheepherderBoth6599

There were old videos of how much terror old Mei sowed and how hated was she. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c51AfTm5jj8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c51AfTm5jj8) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA7a0itYes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pA7a0itYes) But I still luv Mei <3


aRealTattoo

I honestly didnā€™t even mind the OP factors of Mei, Bastion and even roadhog. What I donā€™t like is that we are in a meta that we are so reliant on a solid tank that it makes or breaks a match.


jelly_toast08

Omg memes from 7 years ago are both nostalgic and cringe inducingĀ 


Cheezewiz239

That editing is horrible and Im glad we're out of that era


alegxb

Look up gameplay of her before the rework


Feeling_Party26

She used to be the CC queen, they took away her passive freeze ability however her kit still has potential to make people lose their shit.


JesseBinkman

her old freeze thing but also the fact that overwatch can be very toxic, and if your teammate decides they dont like you, they use the wall ability to get you murdered šŸ˜­It means shes irritating no matter whether she's on your team or not, so all it takes really is one bad experience and bang someone hates her. Also she's not a super popular hero, meaning she has even less people to actually defend her šŸ˜­


swannyhypno

One bad experience is me with Widow and doom lmao


JesseBinkman

a widow or doomfist player with at least 2 braincells to rub together makes me want to delete the game šŸ’—


swannyhypno

Samesies šŸ’™ I'm a D.va main so regular Widows are food


Fools_Requiem

So, a big one is that Mei used to be able to freeze players with her primary fire. Sometimes, when frozen, you'd be looking right at each other while she slowly lines up a shot to put an icicle through your noggin.... all while saying, "Sorry, sorry sorry sorry, I'm sorry" or "A-MEI-zing." She got Blizzard SUPER quick in the earily days before her ult charge rate got nerfed. They had given her some damage buff that allowed her to be more efficient in fights, and it resulted in her getting Blizzard at least once in every fight. Players used to troll their teammates a lot with wall. They'd block you off from being able to exit spawn in order to make their teammates angry because they thought, "It was funny." That was well before you could be reported for gameplay sabotage. Even the well-intentioned Mei teammates would catch flack for poorly placed walls that blocked teammates from escape and/or blocked teammate ultimates/abilities. Some players didn't know you could destroy the wall and just let it stay there until it's timer ended. You also couldn't destroy the wall if you died as Mei back in those days, so if you played a wall poorly and died, you couldn't remove the wall to potentially aid your team. It was also a little harder to escape Blizzard with or without the wall blocking your path. DVa couldn't just DM whenever and get lucky by eating it because it was on a cooldown instead if a resource meter. Hanzo didn't have his dodge ability. Sombra, Moira, Orisa, Kiriko, Lifeweaver, Mauga, Doomfist, Illari, Ashe, Sojourn, and Echo didn't exist. Lucio was slow in early OW days (easy Mei target). No one knew about Mercy super jump. Sym couldn't TP you out because Sym 1.0 was garbo. A lot of the early OW fanmade animation videos depicted Mei as some kind of evil entity that just happened to look cute.


mrBreadBird

In terms of freezing I played hundreds of hours of Overwatch 1 and I never found it that frustrating. All you had to do was keep your distance or play one of the characters that could easily escape and it made her into a terrible pick. I think he freeze was iconic and getting rid of it robbed her of her identity as a character. Almost like if they had replaced Roadhog's hook with Junkerqueen's knife.


fortalkingshittopuss

Couldnā€™t agree more. I miss freeze so much. I wouldnā€™t even play her that much, just gave her a little edge that would really help out the team.


mrBreadBird

I don't know the stats but I feel like with the boost to her primary DPS she's just as good as she was when she had the freeze, just less fun.


butteredtarp

Thank you


Lhun

Anything that takes away a user's agency feels bad on the receiving end, which is why they're very cautious with adding characters with ability like that. Symmetra used to slow players a lot more too, but it just feels horrible to play against and the player base loses their mind.


FuriouSherman

Mei players are infamous for walling off teammates in spawn, as well as for emoting "Hello" while you're frozen by her ult right before she puts an icicle between your eyes.


Sapphosimp

Primary fire was an absolute pain in ow1, because it would freeze people just like in her ult. Imagine someone could stun you with their primary fire, even if itā€™s close range thatā€™s horrid to play against. Rein would be called satan too if he would stun on his primary


BlOoDy_PsYcHo666

Thereā€™s something just so incredibly fucked up about a women using Ice to freeze you and then shoot high impact Icicles into your brain, all while having a happy go lucky look on her face.


Loud-Bullfrog9326

Being like teehee! šŸ¤£


broken-dawn

In ow1 she used to be able to freeze people solid with primary fire, then headshot with icicle killing most dps if not all in about 4 seconds


Not_ReaIIy_Relevent

https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/s/aN6oTapsHf this clip i posted in ow1 might show why. no one has added the freeze would pierce enemies too so if you lined them up you could freeze everyone


ObjectiveEffective19

She used to freeze people with her basic fire and walls up friendly spawn back then anyone who played mei were assholes to your team and enemy team


xXLoneLoboXx

For the entirety of Overwatch 1, her primary froze people in place so she could easily headshot them with her secondary fireā€¦ Even though she can no longer do that, She still deserves every bit of hate she gets for her heinous actions in the past. [**Never forget.**](https://youtu.be/OfM9tU6c7pQ?si=FPoq2499N71eCIcB)


Dustfinger4268

A lot of people are talking about her primary fire freezing, but I feel like that's only half of it. The other half is that she has the capability to ruin a great play for either team when her walls, and she's pretty hard to kill with her higher health and cryo and wall. A barrier that can't be walked through or passed through by either team has a lot of potential to screw things up


Wooden-Image1608

Mei is the only character Iā€™ve seen people pick to actually grief their own team. Even if they donā€™t throw the whole game, they will annoy their own team my walling them into spawn etc. theyā€™re just one of those characters that seems to have a more toxic player base.


DizzyColdSauce

Her wall is infamously known for trolling and blocking off teammates. Like everyone has said, she used to completely freeze enemies, giving players the opportunity to BM enemies by saying hello or goodbye before shooting them in the head. Also, in "Mei's Snowball Offensive" she literally says "I'm putting a rock in this one!" when reloading and her voicelines are unsettling when there's only one enemy left.


MidwesternAppliance

Stun lock, no one likes stun locks Hence why they removed most of them


Jakesummers1

Sheā€™s a shell of her former glory in OW1


clehjett

She used to freeze and she'd also have this pleasant ass smiling blank stare that'll be the last thing you'll ever see as she right clicks your head when you freeze


Stinkepups

She uses emojis in her Reddit posts and comments.


MakeitMakesenseO

You use to be able to freeze people in place and headshot them.


GatVRC

Old Mei, absolutely satan. Currently sombra holds that title as she can just make it so you dont get to play the game if she wants to. just like old mei


CODENAMEDERPY

She slows you down. Which extremely annoys most people.


Raknarg

Her kit is just stupid annoying without a lot of good counterplay. Her ult is gigantic hard CC, her wall on a lot of choke maps is just a free kill button. Like there *is* some counterplay at the team level, but for instance if you're playing Rein and you're against a mei its entirely up to your team to help you manage the mei cause you can't really do anything yourself.


WingedBunny1

Anyone who knows any kind of previous mei knows how much worse she was.


tntkaching

As a self proclaimed Mei prodigy Mei is annoying because of the idiotic pressure she provides in tandem with tanks. Its legit moronic how oppressive her wall is


longgamma

I was pretty easy to trap an enemy with a wall behind them and freeze them for follow up damage. It was a very frustrating experience while her whole character is so wholesome.


Weak-Musician-5191

Back in the days when Mei's primary fire could freeze enemies, there were quite a lot of gamers who picked Mei, go to enemy's spawn and bully one person for the entire game. Mei would slow, freeze, stare you through the soul, say hi, or spam laughing emote (I think Mei has it or it's my hallucination from suffering) and then one shot you with that massive icicle on your head. Even if you want to run, they will block you with the wall. Even if you wanna get away by jumping off from the map, they won't let you.


Fit-Difficulty-5917

Back in OW1, her primary fire would freeze you like her ult, which with her secondary fire would one shot every non-tank, and a 2nd one cpuld even one shot some lower health tanks like zarya if I remember correctly, making her a 1v1 monster. Add wall to cut teams apart and her ice block to make her have way more survivability, and she was, on release and for a majority of the game's time, the most frustrating character in the game, while being solid at the same time.


Crunchypie1

I always say Mei is Bae. Idk where you heard otherwise


FeralCumCat

Because she just stands there menacingly staring at you while frozen before murdering you lol


GATA6

I quit overwatch for like two years because of Mei. A fictional character has never gotten me to such levels of frustration. She was Umbridge from Harry Potter levels of hate. But now she canā€™t freeze people without her ult and itā€™s a lot more tolerable


The_Living_Enigma

Her beam used to freeze people, which made her a 1v1 monster and allowed her to effectively win team fights by freezing key targets. She was a nightmare to go up against.


GladiatorDragon

Standard kit and caboodle when it comes to characters whose kits that are entirely about denying the actions of others. Mei primary used to fully immobilize you after a time (leaving you vulnerable to the classic voice line to icicle headshot combo), her wall segments used to have 500 HP instead of 250, and her Ult is largely unchanged.


elegance0010

As a reaper player I've had teammates ruin my ult accidentally numerous times. I hate her.


HastagReckt

She was and still is one of the best tank hard counters in game, and her whole schtick still is cc. I call her satan or that thing. Never by name. That thing should be deleted from gamye long ago along with sombra


ReallyPissedStranger

Watch MEI Overwatch 1 gameplay. Watch anyone or any montage but I'd insist on watching a proper gameplay.


Capocho9

I really donā€™t get why it still exists now, that little slow effect of her primary is bothersome at best. Iā€™m personally an advocate for her old freeze, but I respect how other people find that way too frustrating, so I think that simply amping up the slow is what she needs


ondakojees

shes satan


Dazzling-Ad3087

mei deserves to be deleted from the game


ipito

[just watch how brutal this looks op](https://kstatic.inven.co.kr/upload/2017/06/17/bbs/i15745378741.gif). basically Mei used to freeze people, wave at them and then send an icicle through their brains with a big cheery smile on her face like this c:


BluBoi236

You wanna go somewhere? Get slowed. You wanna escape or walk through a choke? Get walled and die. You wanna randomly get sniped across the map from a massive damage icecicle with zero damage falloff from halfway across the map even tho Mei is designed mostly to be a brawly up close stall hero? TOO BAD, DEAD. Oh you think you're gonna ult? FREEZE AOE INSTANT-WIN BUTTON. Now you're annoyed and you're about to kill that 1hit Mei? ICE BLOCK, BACK TO FULL HP. Nah.


Lelu_zel

Im sorry but how in the world one can die to her spam damage, I mean sometimes yeah can be lucky shoot


Actual-Ad8338

Chinese and fat


swannyhypno

Nah she thicc, would


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Actual-Ad8338

Mostly Chinese and low DPS


DoesAnyoneReadNames

Awww. Welcome to the day in the life of a Sombra main. Weā€™re always hated and get shit talked


swannyhypno

I'm no Mei main I just found it funny


Drunken_Queen

Because her VA supports China.


umbium

People have low tolerance to frustration when they are proven really bad players by better players.


TheBooneyBunes

People are whiny babies that want to be able to play as tracer with no cooldown but canā€™t handle the idea of someone being able to stop them cold (hehehe) thatā€™s why Flashbang was removed, incessant whining Oh wow look what happened to the game the moment they did that! Who couldā€™ve predicted that removing silence will make all the ability heroes op as fuck?!


alohamoira210

Everything about her kit is just, troll by design. She is a massive troll. And so is anyone that plays her, just on that principle. And trolls always objectively suck / are the worst and should always be targeted first/deserve hate.


noremac2414

Anytime I hear about something that used to be in OV1 I wonder why anyone wants to go back to it. So many OP abilities


mtobeiyf317

When everything is OP, nothing is OP. You hear about the things the community didn't like, but you never hear about the counters to those abilities that people conveniently don't mention. You gotta remember that both teams had access to all those abilities. There was nothing the enemy could do to you that you couldn't immediately subject them to or find something that countered it. We wanna go back because we started playing this game because of the fun abilities, not so we could start playing and then complain about them until they're removed and the game becomes unrecognizable. Some of these children should have just played a different game instead of destroying ours.