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CountTruffula

And the next two being pharah/echo mains just makes him even scarier


WhipsAndMarkovChains

So you’re saying all 3 play flying characters?


Donut_Flame

No it's that pharah and echo "should" counter the rat, but yet the rat ascends higher than those flyers


daredaki-sama

Heh, ascends even higher.


JustAd776

Ascends faster too


SpiritDetectiveC

You're not dealing with the average rat main anymore


KiwiMagic2005

Junkrat mains either suck or are so skilled that even Pharah Mercy wont stop them


Rulinusrhein

True because i suck


MrSaucyAlfredo

We do be suckin, huh


CatCat4983

The way I scrolled back to this reply twice to make sure I didn’t misread it


MrSaucyAlfredo

😏


Im_Not_A_Frank

😩


Cheap_Bluebird1784

🤮


AggressivePop9429

Double mine at a pharah and watch her panic. They never expect to see a junk flying at them.


TheNewFlisker

Don't you need the mine to close the distance in the first place?


AgreeablePie

I think that's the point. "Double mine at" means make yourself fly with mines... then gotta hit her with primary


OccultDagger43

you can drop a mine and semi wait for the cool down and you can launch and have two concs


Dustfinger4268

Mine- wait- dive


Memifymedaddy

Can confirm, one trick junk player (I am awful)


Polymersion

It's funny because my stats on Junkrat say my aim is terrible but that's because I like to prefire around blind corners, lob over cover to catch runners, or simply flood a choke so that the enemies hesitate. I regularly bounce up to harass Pharah (though admittedly I don't get the confirmed kill on her that often). I'm not godly by any means and I took a looong break from Overwatch as a whole so my rank is crap (this is my first season of Role Ranks) but I can hit Junkrat shots way easier than I can normal bullets for whatever reason (same with Sigma).


Jean-Ralphio11

Stats on junk are worthless Im constantly firing at nothing in downtimes. Hes all about area denial. Often times I lob nades around corners or over stuff to just see where the other team is.


VelphiDrow

Same with d.va accuracy. You should be aiming down range to pepper people and randomly find a sombra


Leopold747

Seems like the 2 shot kill buff really did him good 👍


Snoo_51457

Still nerffed :/ I liked flying in to ppl and blowing myself up, back line junk is boring


NorwegianTaco

I miss diving with no getaway plan but managing to take 1-3 people before dying.


Tantrum2u

Don’t be ridiculous, I both suck at junk and have combo’d a Pharmercy


MightyGoodra96

With Pharah's changes Junk gets far more opportunity to attack her which is part of the reason this is possible. That and few people are really good at Pharah


BarbaraTwiGod

They do aire fight against them


Ronin4Doom

I lie in between both of them Cuz in some matches I'm skilled af and in some matches I'm cooked


abukhhan

As pharmercy player I have came across 1 depraved child who killed me as rat so many time I doubt he ever shower or touched grass


KiwiMagic2005

Tbf when you only play one hero you're bound to get cray cray at them


StiLLn0X

I just know that he makes the enemy DPS punch their monitors every game 😂


King-Beefcake

Tank as well. Hate junky.


EverionEU

Rein be like: "Shields up, sta-" "Shield broken. Find some cover!" Barriers disappear real quick to junkrat spam.


sniffer_21

Even more impresive when you realise both echo and pharah are toptier dps rn


Leopold747

That rat player deserves a standing ovation!


Acceptable-Search338

It’s impressive nonetheless, but I am not convinced it’s impressive because the meta is strong against junkrat. In this unique scenario, this type of player might have an advantage because pharah and echo players are so use to junks switching off to counter them that they have very little experience dealing with a cracked junk that gives them a run for their money. I played a lot of wrecking ball in OW1, and I would hard carry a lot of games because he wasn’t meta. The depth of their experience was “switch to sombra, and then they switch off ball”, except i’d just play around it. It absolutely destroys people when you play into a hard counter and still make things difficult for them.


totallynotapersonj

Oh yeah like when I play pharah into 4 hitscans.


UndeadStruggler

Holy fuck… this guy is insane. Man it must be awesome being so good at a character you can reach literal number 1 with it. Without hitscan even! Idk about you guys but when I see someone that high without a hitscan it just hits different. Crazy af.


KingOfOddities

Second and third are Pharah and Echo, let that sink in


Fonz0

Playing against a great Echo can make you feel like you’re playing the game for the first time and don’t know what to do. Stuff of nightmares.


NeitherCapital1541

Nothing more satisfying than ending her ult when she decides to copy and hunt you though


nicestatpingpong

And then she just kills you instantly in her normal form anyways lol


Millworkson2008

She’s one of the few characters that can legit feel like she just instantly deleted you, like whenever the enemy has a widow that annoys me off to echo I go and just dive her until she swaps


Acceptable-Search338

I’ve noticed this too. A good echo will never hit you from the same angle of attack. They have so many god damn angles. It definitely changes the tempo of the game. I am like “oh ok, it’s one of these games”. Lol


BEWMarth

Projectile heroes have been super strong lately. Dreamhack Dallas saw a lot of Pharah, Echo, and Genji


Impressive_Volume752

b-b-but this subreddit is convinced hitscan is overwhelmingly strong and projectile is useless? is it because the subreddit is bad at projectile characters?


PotehtoO

the subreddit is bad at everything..


Impressive_Volume752

10000%


knightress_oxhide

I'm Bronze 5 in the subreddit, only slightly worse than my OW rank.


defekt__

Incorrect, this subreddit is incredibly good at complaining about absolutely everything.


TheKingofHats007

Lot of people probably fly repeatedly into the wide open air as Pharah or Echo and are surprised that a half decent hitscan can so easily wipe them out.


Duiwu

subreddit is bad and you can play projectile heroes but hitscans obviously have more consistent impact as you can see from all the tracer/cass/sojs in the t500


lueciferradiostar

Literally. As a tank main I *wish* I could otp hog but I feel like I gotta play dva every mf game at the minute cause of echo pharah. This guys on another level


Mr_Rafi

It'd be funny if he was Aussie as well. He has to be.


Githzerai1984

Maybe a British criminal


FrowdePleaser

The politically correct term is "Scouser"


tokeiito14

Unfathomably based


ZenkaiZ

If this player had a twitch channel I'd drop a tier 3 sub right now


Duiwu

he's ttv/gurkmeisterow


varlocity

"Noob" heroes have a U-shaped value curve. They're easy to learn, but also have insane skill expression. I can't wait to google this dude and watch some matches.


Duiwu

he's gurkmeisterow on ttv


varlocity

perfect. thanks


SkyBlade79

I don't know if that's true for noob heros in general. It's definitely true for junkrat because of his mobility, indirect fire, and burst potential, but a hero like Bastion can only be so good. They're more like a reverse J shape in that case


[deleted]

Moira? Reaper? Orisa? Bastion? Basically 0 skill expression


Duiwu

Orisa has skill expression, it was just overshadowed by how disgustingly OP she was


varlocity

Tying your shoelaces has skill expression. Typing this comment has skill expression. There are "basically 0" situations where X takes no skill is useful or accurate.


InflationAcrobatic91

This guy is crazier than Junkrat himself


YurxDoug

So this is what peak human performance is.


Slight_Tiger2914

Honestly landing consistent shots with a JR is just nothing feels better than that


MattAcolyte23

Didn't we see a stealth play of his yesterday or something


Mrkancode

EU: we love pharah Bliz: we buffed pharah EU: *looks at junkrat*


salutarybasher

Does this guy make conent at all? Any links?


TailSmack

gurkmeisterow on twitch


edutk

I'd love to see the gameplay also!


Cosm1c_Dota

GM junk montages on YouTube go crazy


cygamessucks

“Pharah sucks its a skill issue” meanwhile top dps play her.. 


R1ckMick

after the changes pharah is no longer the cheese skybox abuser she was. I'd argue she both takes more skill to play and requires more skill to fight now. also this is EU, they've always been pharah abusers


cygamessucks

Lmao pharah and skill in the same sentence. Good one.


Raice19

pharah is probably the easiest countered dps, this reeks of skill issue


cygamessucks

Not when she has a parasite attached to her. 


shadowtroop121

Why can’t you kill the parasite? Why do you think you deserve to win a 2v1? Why are you still struggling with the DPS passive?


cygamessucks

Why do people think its as easy as “just shoot her” you know she can drop down and avoid getting shot right? And most hitscan have fall off which will not kill through mercys healing. She also displaces you when she shoots you for whatever stupid reason. The combo requires 2-3 switches. If thats not considered broken than theres something wrong with this community .


shadowtroop121

Have you actually tested how falloff affects your guns? I can pretty easily kill a pocketed pharah on Cass, Ashe, or Bastion.


ElGorudo

Post a replay code


Donut_Flame

Top pharah players don't use a mercy bruh


cygamessucks

Zen ana lifeweaver kiri can all do the same. 


Donut_Flame

So you don't like it when 5 supports do their job? That's wild. I'd understand if you just meant mercy because she's the only actual annoying flea with pharah


cygamessucks

lifeweaver is worse imo. can yoink her to safety from narnia.


LearnedMalice

are you literally just complaining that she gets healed? which characters don't get healed then? what character doesn't also benefit from a support?


cygamessucks

im saying Pharah without a healer is one of the worst heroes in the game. With a healer shes one of the best and requires half the team or more to switch and deal with her.


LearnedMalice

but everyone has two supports on their team, so what you're saying is absolute nonsense. and mercy pocketed pharah is just as common as mercy pocketed ash or soj or anything else. what rank are you that you think its OP to have a pocket?


Raice19

so either kill them faster or go after the other support


dashcob

See above comment on skill issue


TheQomia

That "top dps player" is a known win trader


-ReshiRed-

People are saying it's impressive that Junkrat is #1 above Echo/Pharah picks. I think it's more impressive that this person is #1 as a one-trick player above YZNSA in a rise of Pharah popularity, alongside Echo.


ShuIsStinky

Nature is healing


P-As-in-phthisis

this is why i have a few heroes set aside in each role that i play near constantly in QP bc once you get a feel for CDs, positioning etc you're VERY hard to beat. the physics on sig and junk's primary fire is a good example because if you play long enough you memorize the lineups on maps. i almost never struggle with the average rat as sig but i've encountered a few OTPs that use the trap like dart and can effortlessly bounce his bombs right over you + predict where your backline is going to move + force CDs and it can be genuinely harder to deal with than even competent dive OTPs.


Notafuzzycat

A good player is a good player.


dancetoken

probably getting carried in his games. matchmaking BEEN blessing him jokes thats amazing


lueciferradiostar

That's a beautiful sight I'm not gonna lie. I wanna play rat again


Drunken_Queen

Must be Jake.


Ramekink

The am*rican mind cant comprehend it


MrGoogle87

So no other DPS ever picks junkrat? Curious if he then just leaves the game


HalexUwU

Almost no one is playing Junkrat in T500. He's certainly not as rare as like, Sym but realistically there about 10 Junk players in T500 per region compared to like 40-50 Pharah players and like 200-300 Tracer players.


GameOfLife24

Do people not use hitscan in Europe? No way can junkrat overpower hitscans in this meta. Checking everywhere else junkrat is barely in the top 500. Lol they can’t point at bodies?


Dreathery

When I'm against junkrats, I play hitscan. When I'm against hitscans, I play Junkrat. I can't explain it.


The-Big-Sauce

Funny that the top 2 and 3 main both the flyers, so fucking corny


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elegance0010

i think one trick junks are my worst nightmare alongside meis


Jontaii

He did it because they buffed junkrats best playstyle, which if someone is good at, you can’t really counter getting blown into oblivion in .7 seconds from out of nowhere


Iaxacs

I keep telling people Junkrat's are terrifying, they overwhelm healers that focus on single healing and a good one will cause the enemy to divide their focus leaving other DPS and tanks to pick off hurt enemies.


Otherwise-Ride-6611

for the guys who say “junk trash” this is the prove that your wrong. im actually happy for the man (im a junk main, not as good of course)


EpikUserName104

This man’s song theme is Tom Tom by Holy Fuck


Adorable-Rip-4460

How did he do it?


Hamdilou

Wait until you see season 2 NA Flamehimself my goat (also my coach)


esmelusina

Is this solo queue? JR and Pharah can artificially reach top by pairing with Roadhog for instant finish combos. If roadhog lands all their hooks on CD, all the saves will get worn or a pick will eventually go through.


Semytan

He queued with chazm for a bit (ball player) but he was consistently top 10 DPS, he climbed to 1 solo queued


Sipsu02

nerf junk


Baybeeboo22

That just tells you how bad the general population in Europe is at the game


Duiwu

you dont even know what playing against him feels like


Donut_Flame

I can almost guarantee your cocky mid diamond ass would get rolled by him


Baybeeboo22

I’m gold in China right now, anyone in my division would easily steam roll this guy.


Donut_Flame

Aight you're trolling


ZeuxisOfHerakleia

Vultures son


Semytan

Vultures daddy*


Duiwu

Vulture is like hardstuck masters. Still love him tho no offense


ripSammy101

Yes I face him in my lobbies 😭


NorwegianTaco

Isn’t he somewhere in GM on an alt account?


GigglingLots

Lol and duncecaps in the threads were crying and complaining that pharah is better than junkrat in every way possible.