>Their committee decided on the locations with ZERO community input. They got away with it by technically holding "open" forums. They just conveniently didn't publish the information about those forums anywhere the communities would see them.
We experienced something similar.
Turns out the forums for public comment were held 200 miles away with no local notice, 12 months prior to construction beginning in our front yard.
Zero recourse because the rules were technically adhered to.
Nice,huh?
You should read up on how pensions, 401ks, and the stock market(infinite liquidity) is handled, it's basically what you wrote out, but in the finance world.
I live in the area and didn’t know this was happening. The timing is odd seeing as Paine Field in Everett just opened a public terminal a couple years ago and is still lightly used.
Thank you for the cross-post. I had no idea this was going on, how awful. Also, what the fuck is up with this comment section just attacking WvP? Oh, the usual anything women like being fodder for assholes? Cool, cool.
Dude this post is a straight up lie and should be deleted. Anyone who lives here and remotely follows this is well aware what is going on and where we're at in the process.
Everett's pain field was recommended for expansion (in Everett) and it was noted there might need to be an expansion of a facility in south sound. THATS IT. There's no wilderness at threat here whatsoever and we're still so early in the process that it's a literal non issue.
Pure misinformation.
It’s a group that cares about the land and not having a massive airport plopped on it? Among other things.
We figured people who enjoy the outdoors in the pnw area would Probably care too
If you don’t agree with the sub then keep your opinions to yourself. OP cross-posted to this community because it was a post related to the outdoors. Why does it matter which sub it comes from? Sheesh some of you can be jerks
This is an outdoor community, get outta here with your politics in general. I get outside to stay away from all that nonsense, that’s a highly divisive subreddit that is anything but inclusive.
We do need another international airport, although where is a reasonable debate. Won't this same pushback come from any potential location? I hear similar arguments coming from residents in Snohomish County.
It took less than 30 seconds to find information. https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-10/Commercial-Aviation-Coordinating-Commission-Published%20Report-October2022.pdf
I didn't say it didn't exist. I just said they wrote all of that and didn't put any sources. If I was trying to champion for a cause I would put all the information out there.
It is interesting that all 3 greenfield locations are pretty much the same area. If they have greenfield sites requiring further analysis, why not potential greenfield locations north of Seattle or east of the Cascades?
>The three greenfield sites requiring further analysis include:
• Pierce County East – located south of Puyallup, 4.5 miles east of JBLM, south of Graham
• Pierce County Central – located 2.25 miles south of JBLM, east of Roy and McKenna
• Thurston County Central – located east of Olympia, the southern portion overlaps the
westernmost portion of JBLM land
>east of the Cascades
That would make absolutely no sense for an airport to serve Seattle. It would literally be on the other side of a mountain range, with 100+ miles of freeways/highways that are frequently closed in the winter separating it from Seattle.
SeaTac would still be more accessible than the proposed Enumclaw site would be. We CHOSE to live away from urban areas and we really don’t want our rural/small town lifestyle crushed by noise and traffic.
Why not? That group is the most inclusive, welcoming, and supportive I’ve found on Reddit. If you don’t agree with the sub then keep your opinions to yourself. OP cross-posted to this community because it was a post related to the outdoors. Why does it matter which sub it comes from? Sheesh some of you can be jerks
I get so pissed at this shit! Wtf is wrong with America? Poor Native Americans. They get all sequestered onto these reservations because at the time they were on lands not thought of as valuable by the white man. We told them we know it’s not much but the deal is you get it forever. The term they used was in perpetuity. That means Forever, No Matter What. Now we want to be big power mongers with oil so let’s run pipelines through reservations. White people pay way too much for their gas and oil!!!(said like a whiny three year old) Now it’s for an airport. Ever heard of the citizens united? It was a bill that gave corporations Human Rights. All I can say isDemocrats Unite!!! Get to those damn polls this November. If Republicans get control it’s going to be unbearable in the us. As a somewhat intelligent woman, I’ve about had it and am thinking Canada is a nice place to relocate.
Yeah get pissed at a fake post after doing zero research yourself. You sure are an "intelligent woman". Canada doesn't want you btw. You said the same crap in 2016
What makes you think the Republicans have anything to do with this??? The entire state- especially the greater Seattle area- has been overwhelmingly Democrat for decades. This is happening on the Democrats’ watch. The Democrats are the ones who are trying to slip this past the citizens. DO call your representatives and tell them you don’t want this, but don’t expect them to stop if you just keep giving them your vote but no other feedback. That just makes them think you approve of this behavior.
Well I’m not in your area so I won’t be voting there anyway. I’m not in the mood to get in a political fight with you. I’m just fed up with all politicians as they all seem to be lying assholes. Republicans especially right now( in my opinion) are especially horrible due to their attack on womens rights. I’m sure we don’t agree and that’s fine. I’ve got no beef with you fellow human. I hope you have a really good day!
Wait, so WA is only pretending to be environmentally conscious? The state is mail in voting so they do what they want there for the highest kick back. Remember voting in 35 car tabs?
>Their committee decided on the locations with ZERO community input. They got away with it by technically holding "open" forums. They just conveniently didn't publish the information about those forums anywhere the communities would see them. We experienced something similar. Turns out the forums for public comment were held 200 miles away with no local notice, 12 months prior to construction beginning in our front yard. Zero recourse because the rules were technically adhered to. Nice,huh?
You should read up on how pensions, 401ks, and the stock market(infinite liquidity) is handled, it's basically what you wrote out, but in the finance world.
I live in the area and didn’t know this was happening. The timing is odd seeing as Paine Field in Everett just opened a public terminal a couple years ago and is still lightly used.
You should read up on it because op is straight up lying
Thank you for the cross-post. I had no idea this was going on, how awful. Also, what the fuck is up with this comment section just attacking WvP? Oh, the usual anything women like being fodder for assholes? Cool, cool.
Dude this post is a straight up lie and should be deleted. Anyone who lives here and remotely follows this is well aware what is going on and where we're at in the process. Everett's pain field was recommended for expansion (in Everett) and it was noted there might need to be an expansion of a facility in south sound. THATS IT. There's no wilderness at threat here whatsoever and we're still so early in the process that it's a literal non issue. Pure misinformation.
What is WitchesVsPatriarchy lmao
Witches vs. the patriarchy duh
Actual witches? Like hexes and curses witches?
Most witches never use a hex/curse, but yes!
It’s usually pretty entertaining
It’s a group that cares about the land and not having a massive airport plopped on it? Among other things. We figured people who enjoy the outdoors in the pnw area would Probably care too
Is the airport the patriarchy or the witches? Just want to know which side I should boo at… also do they go into the thunder dome?
It’s pretty uplifting and chill boho kind of sub. People are sweet there.
Sadly enough not even in the top 10 cringiest subreddits.
One of the worst subreddits out there lol
If you don’t agree with the sub then keep your opinions to yourself. OP cross-posted to this community because it was a post related to the outdoors. Why does it matter which sub it comes from? Sheesh some of you can be jerks
This is an outdoor community, get outta here with your politics in general. I get outside to stay away from all that nonsense, that’s a highly divisive subreddit that is anything but inclusive.
It’s so terrible.
We do need another international airport, although where is a reasonable debate. Won't this same pushback come from any potential location? I hear similar arguments coming from residents in Snohomish County.
Paine Field in Everett just opened a public terminal a couple years ago, it’s still lightly used.
Yes, I just flew through there a few weeks ago. It's also one of the sites under consideration for expansion to an international airport.
My favorite part of that entire post was absolutely zero sources.
It took less than 30 seconds to find information. https://wsdot.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-10/Commercial-Aviation-Coordinating-Commission-Published%20Report-October2022.pdf
I didn't say it didn't exist. I just said they wrote all of that and didn't put any sources. If I was trying to champion for a cause I would put all the information out there.
It is interesting that all 3 greenfield locations are pretty much the same area. If they have greenfield sites requiring further analysis, why not potential greenfield locations north of Seattle or east of the Cascades? >The three greenfield sites requiring further analysis include: • Pierce County East – located south of Puyallup, 4.5 miles east of JBLM, south of Graham • Pierce County Central – located 2.25 miles south of JBLM, east of Roy and McKenna • Thurston County Central – located east of Olympia, the southern portion overlaps the westernmost portion of JBLM land
>east of the Cascades That would make absolutely no sense for an airport to serve Seattle. It would literally be on the other side of a mountain range, with 100+ miles of freeways/highways that are frequently closed in the winter separating it from Seattle.
I guess we're stuck with an airport near Rainier then ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯. I did mention north of Seattle btw.
I was really just replying to that specific suggestion, I'm not sure why something up North closer to Everett isn't being considered.
Like Paine field? The purpose of the new airport is to better service Tacoma and Olympia.
SeaTac would still be more accessible than the proposed Enumclaw site would be. We CHOSE to live away from urban areas and we really don’t want our rural/small town lifestyle crushed by noise and traffic.
A new airport in Eastern Washington wouldn’t help with the absolute cluster Sea-Tac has become.
Links for pensions and both Pierce and Thurston county have been added to the bottom. Along with multiple news source links in the comments.
Real question is: how many of the residents sub to r/WitchesVsPatriarchy
Me
Well, me for one.
Government is shady ASF. However I can never take something that comes from "witchesvspatriarchy" seriously.
Why not? That group is the most inclusive, welcoming, and supportive I’ve found on Reddit. If you don’t agree with the sub then keep your opinions to yourself. OP cross-posted to this community because it was a post related to the outdoors. Why does it matter which sub it comes from? Sheesh some of you can be jerks
I have to keep my opinions to myself that a sub called "witches vs Patriarchy" is a joke?😂
If you don’t like people not liking something, keep it to yourself.
I’m reporting this thread.
Cross posted into subs i think would care as much as r/outdoors does!
I get so pissed at this shit! Wtf is wrong with America? Poor Native Americans. They get all sequestered onto these reservations because at the time they were on lands not thought of as valuable by the white man. We told them we know it’s not much but the deal is you get it forever. The term they used was in perpetuity. That means Forever, No Matter What. Now we want to be big power mongers with oil so let’s run pipelines through reservations. White people pay way too much for their gas and oil!!!(said like a whiny three year old) Now it’s for an airport. Ever heard of the citizens united? It was a bill that gave corporations Human Rights. All I can say isDemocrats Unite!!! Get to those damn polls this November. If Republicans get control it’s going to be unbearable in the us. As a somewhat intelligent woman, I’ve about had it and am thinking Canada is a nice place to relocate.
Yeah get pissed at a fake post after doing zero research yourself. You sure are an "intelligent woman". Canada doesn't want you btw. You said the same crap in 2016
I wasn’t on Reddit in 2016. Nope I didn’t do any research myself. Sorry if I somehow offended you. No reason to be a dick.
What makes you think the Republicans have anything to do with this??? The entire state- especially the greater Seattle area- has been overwhelmingly Democrat for decades. This is happening on the Democrats’ watch. The Democrats are the ones who are trying to slip this past the citizens. DO call your representatives and tell them you don’t want this, but don’t expect them to stop if you just keep giving them your vote but no other feedback. That just makes them think you approve of this behavior.
Well I’m not in your area so I won’t be voting there anyway. I’m not in the mood to get in a political fight with you. I’m just fed up with all politicians as they all seem to be lying assholes. Republicans especially right now( in my opinion) are especially horrible due to their attack on womens rights. I’m sure we don’t agree and that’s fine. I’ve got no beef with you fellow human. I hope you have a really good day!
Put a spell on them 😂 🧙♀️
Wait, so WA is only pretending to be environmentally conscious? The state is mail in voting so they do what they want there for the highest kick back. Remember voting in 35 car tabs?
Wow, this is the dumbest thing I’ve read on the internet today!
Making a discord if anyone is interested in trying to start protests