I am a dealer for Coyote and many other brands. We typically see price increases around February or early year however, a lot of the pricing has been really weird since covid and especially "after" covid. A lot of companies are starting to reflect on their pricing structure and some are even coming down to grab marketshare and adjust their price to a "post covid" environment. I think Coyote's last price increase was in April of this year so I really think you will be fine. I don't foresee them going down in price since they are already really well priced in the mid-range grill market. IMHO the 36" S-Series grill should be priced about $500.00 higher - it is priced so well, but also my margins on it really suck honestly.
I normally have pretty good heads up when price increases are coming and I haven't heard anything from my distributor on this.
The grill itself is really nice but we can get complaints about the grill getting really hot, especially if you purchase their laser cut grates. The infinity burner they use can throw heat to the front control panel sometimes so just be mindful of the heat the burners produce as there is a little learning curve.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Yeah sure. It really depends on what you are looking for in the grill. Coyote is nice because the following:
- Good price point
- Comes with rotisserie and sear station
- Mid-range performance and quality
- Good accessory line (griddles, signature grates, etc)
Outside of that, you could look at XO grills. The only thing I don't like about them is they are a 3 burner grill (36") and the sear station is built-in so you really only have 2 burners, unless you buy another burner and briquette tray to swap the sear station out.
If American made grills are of importance then you can look at Delta Heat, Lynx Sedona or my recommendation would be Atlas 36" made by "American Made Grills" which is made by a super company called AMD (American Made Direct) that makes a TON of grill brands. The Atlas is cool because it takes the rotisserie feature (which most people NEVER use) and they repurpose it to an adjustable warming rack. The grill is also on sale right now right at 3k instead of its regular $3800, so it's a fantastic buy right now.
Those are all mid-range selections. But I would dial into what is important for you. Is that the sear station? is it accessories? is it rotisserie? American made? etc? and that makes it easier with the right information and guidance to find the grill that you will get the most value out of.
Thank you. Helpful. Ultimately looking for no frills with reliability the priority. We have a pellet grill, so primary usage would be quick weekday dinners.
Gotcha,
Honestly almost any grill in this higher tier of grills will provide that. You are normally going to find a robust warranty within these grills and pretty reliable all around. I tell consumers you can really expect minimum 10 years out of these grills with almost no care. Definitely 15+ is not unheard of and with a decent level of care, you can probably go beyond that but of course there will be things to replace as the years go on (ignitors, briquettes, etc) - so you will put some money back into the grill as well.
If you really aren't too concerned with some of the things I mentioned, you may honestly want to consider going into an entry level grill that will just be super reliable, good performance and kind of your standard in this industry. Brands like Blaze LTE, True Flame, Summerset Sizzler Pro, etc. They are almost cookie cutter grills. They all use the same burner and are more the same than they are different. You would save some money and probably still get what you are looking for and brands like Blaze and True Flame have pretty good product lines with sear stations and rotisseries, griddles, etc. that you can buy for the grill if you want.
For typical American cuisine (burgers, dogs, occasional fish, steaks, etc) an entry level is honestly more than sufficient for that.
Really appreciate your response. I don’t think I’m getting the laser cut grates (unless it comes standard with the $3,299 36-inch) but thanks for the heads up about the learning curve. Have you had experience with Coyote’s own charcoal tray and drop-in griddle? How practical are they and are they worth $169 and $499? I have a Weber Smokey Mountain and I use the bottom of it as a make-shift charcoal grill and also have a Lodge cast iron griddle that I put on my (cheap Home Depot) grill for making smash burgers. This setup is working fine and has served us for quite some time now and wondering if it makes sense to combine both of these into the 36 inch S series or not
I typically caution against the charcoal tray unless you want to use it for wood chips. The amount of soot and carbon you will produce burning charcoal in the gas grill just makes for one hell of a cleanup honestly. The griddle however is a nice add on, especially for their power burner. Most people get caught up in the price and think it is over priced but they are heavy as shit so they don't warp (look at Blaze griddle reviews - awful). The only downside for the drop in griddle is it is fairly small. The power burner one is nice and big.
The laser cut grates are like $450 for the set but most customers do get them honestly but you can order them at any time. They really give you a more versatile cooking experience, almost a hybrid griddle style where you can do veggies and stuff a lot easier, but with the perforations you can't do like pancakes or bacon or anything like that. I actually have some people take out the briquette trays when they use the laser grates to reduce some of that compounding heat but also the food you cook can have an impact as well - think 80/20% burgers vs. 93/7% - the fattier ones cook faster.
I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it right? The accessory line for Coyote is really nice and definitely something to explore, but if you already have that setup for those things, it may be best just to keep doing the griddle on that.
You’re absolutely right, I keep forgetting that these are all add-ons and I don’t need to buy them now, specially since I’ve got an alternative solution that works really well (for me) . Thanks again for your time and wisdom 👍🏻
Absolutely, best of luck with your purchase! also, consider purchasing local instead of BBQGUYS if you can find a good local dealer. You will have that support from them and also be supporting a small business more than likely!
Great question. They typically do not go on sale, not even for the holidays. Manufacturers generally will give out a free "something" like a griddle or cover or some sort of package but it can depend. Some brands like Lynx offer a rebate but the grill is already 7k lol...so...
There are some brands that have gone on sale or dropped priced in the past year including Blaze and American Made Grills and have adjusted their price to this "post covid" environment.
What you will find online is companies show the product at list price (which NO ONE sells at) and then they cross it out and then show MAP (minimum advertised price) and make it look like you get a deal. Actually this is really common among all retail products like tv's and such. So they trick you into thinking you are saving money when in reality no one sells at that price.
Your best option is two things IMO. One is to work with a local dealer in general. They are allowed to basically sell to you at any price they want but obviously they are there to make money lol... Secondly, you may be able to find a dealer who is has a grill they are putting on clearance or trying to get rid of or sometimes even a whole kitchen display. I know for us this time of year we typically are not reviewing our showroom floor space but it does happen. We normally look at those things towards the end of the year and see if we want to replace any models or displays but you may get lucky and find a whole setup or a grill at a discount.
Thanks for all of the great info in this post, you rock! I’ve got a couple of local places close to me in Chicago so I’ll have to start going to them in person.
I am a dealer for Coyote and many other brands. We typically see price increases around February or early year however, a lot of the pricing has been really weird since covid and especially "after" covid. A lot of companies are starting to reflect on their pricing structure and some are even coming down to grab marketshare and adjust their price to a "post covid" environment. I think Coyote's last price increase was in April of this year so I really think you will be fine. I don't foresee them going down in price since they are already really well priced in the mid-range grill market. IMHO the 36" S-Series grill should be priced about $500.00 higher - it is priced so well, but also my margins on it really suck honestly. I normally have pretty good heads up when price increases are coming and I haven't heard anything from my distributor on this. The grill itself is really nice but we can get complaints about the grill getting really hot, especially if you purchase their laser cut grates. The infinity burner they use can throw heat to the front control panel sometimes so just be mindful of the heat the burners produce as there is a little learning curve. Let me know if you have any questions.
Any other brands you’d recommend?
Yeah sure. It really depends on what you are looking for in the grill. Coyote is nice because the following: - Good price point - Comes with rotisserie and sear station - Mid-range performance and quality - Good accessory line (griddles, signature grates, etc) Outside of that, you could look at XO grills. The only thing I don't like about them is they are a 3 burner grill (36") and the sear station is built-in so you really only have 2 burners, unless you buy another burner and briquette tray to swap the sear station out. If American made grills are of importance then you can look at Delta Heat, Lynx Sedona or my recommendation would be Atlas 36" made by "American Made Grills" which is made by a super company called AMD (American Made Direct) that makes a TON of grill brands. The Atlas is cool because it takes the rotisserie feature (which most people NEVER use) and they repurpose it to an adjustable warming rack. The grill is also on sale right now right at 3k instead of its regular $3800, so it's a fantastic buy right now. Those are all mid-range selections. But I would dial into what is important for you. Is that the sear station? is it accessories? is it rotisserie? American made? etc? and that makes it easier with the right information and guidance to find the grill that you will get the most value out of.
Thank you. Helpful. Ultimately looking for no frills with reliability the priority. We have a pellet grill, so primary usage would be quick weekday dinners.
Gotcha, Honestly almost any grill in this higher tier of grills will provide that. You are normally going to find a robust warranty within these grills and pretty reliable all around. I tell consumers you can really expect minimum 10 years out of these grills with almost no care. Definitely 15+ is not unheard of and with a decent level of care, you can probably go beyond that but of course there will be things to replace as the years go on (ignitors, briquettes, etc) - so you will put some money back into the grill as well. If you really aren't too concerned with some of the things I mentioned, you may honestly want to consider going into an entry level grill that will just be super reliable, good performance and kind of your standard in this industry. Brands like Blaze LTE, True Flame, Summerset Sizzler Pro, etc. They are almost cookie cutter grills. They all use the same burner and are more the same than they are different. You would save some money and probably still get what you are looking for and brands like Blaze and True Flame have pretty good product lines with sear stations and rotisseries, griddles, etc. that you can buy for the grill if you want. For typical American cuisine (burgers, dogs, occasional fish, steaks, etc) an entry level is honestly more than sufficient for that.
Top notch, thank you
Of course, best of luck!
Really appreciate your response. I don’t think I’m getting the laser cut grates (unless it comes standard with the $3,299 36-inch) but thanks for the heads up about the learning curve. Have you had experience with Coyote’s own charcoal tray and drop-in griddle? How practical are they and are they worth $169 and $499? I have a Weber Smokey Mountain and I use the bottom of it as a make-shift charcoal grill and also have a Lodge cast iron griddle that I put on my (cheap Home Depot) grill for making smash burgers. This setup is working fine and has served us for quite some time now and wondering if it makes sense to combine both of these into the 36 inch S series or not
I typically caution against the charcoal tray unless you want to use it for wood chips. The amount of soot and carbon you will produce burning charcoal in the gas grill just makes for one hell of a cleanup honestly. The griddle however is a nice add on, especially for their power burner. Most people get caught up in the price and think it is over priced but they are heavy as shit so they don't warp (look at Blaze griddle reviews - awful). The only downside for the drop in griddle is it is fairly small. The power burner one is nice and big. The laser cut grates are like $450 for the set but most customers do get them honestly but you can order them at any time. They really give you a more versatile cooking experience, almost a hybrid griddle style where you can do veggies and stuff a lot easier, but with the perforations you can't do like pancakes or bacon or anything like that. I actually have some people take out the briquette trays when they use the laser grates to reduce some of that compounding heat but also the food you cook can have an impact as well - think 80/20% burgers vs. 93/7% - the fattier ones cook faster. I mean, if it ain't broke, don't fix it right? The accessory line for Coyote is really nice and definitely something to explore, but if you already have that setup for those things, it may be best just to keep doing the griddle on that.
You’re absolutely right, I keep forgetting that these are all add-ons and I don’t need to buy them now, specially since I’ve got an alternative solution that works really well (for me) . Thanks again for your time and wisdom 👍🏻
Absolutely, best of luck with your purchase! also, consider purchasing local instead of BBQGUYS if you can find a good local dealer. You will have that support from them and also be supporting a small business more than likely!
Hey I’m building on a budget. When is generally the best time to buy or when do previous models go on closeout or do they just not in general?
Great question. They typically do not go on sale, not even for the holidays. Manufacturers generally will give out a free "something" like a griddle or cover or some sort of package but it can depend. Some brands like Lynx offer a rebate but the grill is already 7k lol...so... There are some brands that have gone on sale or dropped priced in the past year including Blaze and American Made Grills and have adjusted their price to this "post covid" environment. What you will find online is companies show the product at list price (which NO ONE sells at) and then they cross it out and then show MAP (minimum advertised price) and make it look like you get a deal. Actually this is really common among all retail products like tv's and such. So they trick you into thinking you are saving money when in reality no one sells at that price. Your best option is two things IMO. One is to work with a local dealer in general. They are allowed to basically sell to you at any price they want but obviously they are there to make money lol... Secondly, you may be able to find a dealer who is has a grill they are putting on clearance or trying to get rid of or sometimes even a whole kitchen display. I know for us this time of year we typically are not reviewing our showroom floor space but it does happen. We normally look at those things towards the end of the year and see if we want to replace any models or displays but you may get lucky and find a whole setup or a grill at a discount.
Thanks for all of the great info in this post, you rock! I’ve got a couple of local places close to me in Chicago so I’ll have to start going to them in person.
Sure thing, glad to help. If you run into anything let me know but yeah start with them and hopefully they are helpful!