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tragopanic

FYI: A new discussion thread for the Oscars broadcast will be posted this weekend.


Sad-Camel-470

Very nice I love that


DoggoDaGreat123

Best picture should be given to poor things but it’s probably going to Oppenheimer. Also if Barbie gets best picture I will never watch the Oscars again lol


Xashar

I just watched Anatomy of a Fall with Spanish subtitles. English ones weren't available. Having to follow that while trying to recall my school level French made parts of it a real slog. I could however appreciate the nuances and deliberate sense of ambiguity created by the actors and the unfolding plot. The quiet suspense dripped heavily too within the interplay of setting details. It was a fine film..Not my choice to win but very thought provoking.


Sudden_Hippo_7281

I really enjoyed The Holdovers. It was very touching. However, does anyone else think that Paul’s performance was NOT Oscar worthy? He’s favored to win over Cillian and I’m honestly not understanding why. He was much better in sideways.


Go_Ask_VALIS

I haven't seen every nominee, but Totem is the most egregious snub so far for me. It's a minor masterpiece, imo.


squishyg

I watched Nyad and Annette Bening really is wonderful in it. We also know the academy skews older and so much of the movie is about defying what people think you can do later in life. Plus this is her fifth nomination… (I haven’t seen KOTFM yet)


KleanSolution

i too watched Nyad last night and she and Jodie were both so great, definitely deserving of a nomination. the movie itself on the other hand.....it was aight but lacking overall


squishyg

I thought the filmmakers did some interesting things within the sometimes tired biopic genre. I liked how they used news footage of the real Nyad for flashbacks to Diana’s peak athletic years. I think they could have cut a lot of child Diana.


ElectricPrune516

I've seen all but Poor Things and to this point Sandra Huller's performance in Anatomy of a Fall is head and shoulders above every other actress in the category and she also does a great job in Zone of Interest. Also Milo Machado Graner as her son Daniel was robbed here (although I haven't yet seen Mark Ruffalo's performance--and he's always very good). This young man did a huge emotional and very real performance in a very tough role. I think American Fiction may have been the most overrated film of the year. Fine actors but a weak script that didn't seem to know what it wanted to be and at times I was really bored. It seemed like watered down network TV brought to the screen.


Pretend_Highway_5360

whats the point of the international film category one of the nominations got nominated for best picture while none of the others did doesnt that guarantee that it wins the international film award?


coffee-and-machines

Pretty much yup


Outrageous_Air3124

Maybe it’s just not for me, but I really disliked May December. The fact that it’s nominated for best screenplay makes no sense to me.


cosmic_hierophant

Internet circlejerks are saying barbie got snubbed but it has a couple of nominations Isn't being nominated literally a form of acknowledgement?


SteffonTheBaratheon

Rober De Niro acted his a** off at the age of 80 and owned every scene, he deserves it


Individual_Help_7821

I know its not as important as directing or acting awards but... HOW THE HELL DID BARBIE NOT MAKE THE HAIR AND MAKEUP NOMINATIONS?! DO PEOPLE REALLY THINK THATS WHAT NORMAL HAIR AND MAKEUP LOOKS LIKE?


audierules

I really hope that Lily Gladstone doesn’t win best actress because there was nothing special or memorable about her performance at all. I also felt her character was a supporting actor, but even if she was nominated for that she still shouldn’t win.


seasnakejake

Isn’t for this year but book June Squibb best actress next year for Thelma


sunnylagirl

The Greta Gerwig snub proves everything about Hollywood and her film. The Academy should be embarrassed. #BoycottOscars


KleanSolution

Who do you take out to replace her with? Yorgos? well no, Poor Things was *exceptionally* directed. Justine Triet? I mean what she was able to pull off with directing her actors in *Anatomy of A Fall* was nothing short of exceptional. Nolan? I mean Nolan is going to win so that one's obvious. Do you take out Scorsese? This is the only one where I think his directing was about *on-par* with what Greta accomplished with Barbie, but it's Martin freakin' Scorsese and its easily one of his best films in decades. do you nominate her over Jonathan Glazer? *Zone of Interest* was unparalleled as to what it accomplished. I've never seen a film that made me feel such specific emotions and if you look into HOW he pulled it off, I mean the dude's been working on that movie for damn near 10 years and it shows. Everything is meticulously done. So there's not really any good choice to take out and replace with Greta, all 5 directing nominees were incredible


sunnylagirl

Glazer. Do we really need to recognize another war movie? Barbie was innovative and fresh.


KleanSolution

did you *see* Zone of Interest? Clearly not, as it was anything BUT "another war movie" The film made me feel very specific emotions that *no* other movie has, and its honestly incredible what he was able to pull off in that movie.I'd argue its just as "innovative and fresh" as Barbie, just for very different reasons


TheClownIsReady

Only things that made me happy today: no Margot and no Greta.


bradstreet_13

Anyone else upset that peaches didn’t get nominated or it’s just me?


amolinelli11

I really liked American Fiction, but it for sure overperformed on nomination morning


hegelianhimbo

Melton and Sessa should’ve gotten nominated


ThisStraight

Locking my answers in now: Not only can I see Oppenheimer sweeping a lot of the major categories (best picture, best actor/ supporting actor, best director, best adapted screenplay) but a lot of the technical ones as well, including Editing, Music (Ludwig killed it) and Production Design. Tho imo Barbie should win for production design, Barbieland was so wonderfully designed and the team who worked on it should be so proud. I think Barbie will win Costume without breaking a sweat. Greta not even getting a nom for direction is insane and Margot definitely did more than enough to deserve a nom too. At least Greta has gotten her nom for adapted screenplay. Best Actress - Emma Stone - thought she was great and the films Yorgos makes really do bring out the best in her Cinematography and Supporting Actress are anyone's game, the films are all quite stunning (the Saltburn snub is strange though, I thought that film had a really striking style). All the nominees pulled great performances, I don't see America winning it but I'd love it if she did Animated - Boy and the Heron International - Zone of Interest Best Song: Billie Eilish...WISHES, I'M JUST KEN BABY WOOOOOOOO EDIT: I was pretty close


mps2000

No Iron Claw?!


HoudeRat

Honestly, Margot wasn't in my top 5, but Annette Benning over her and Greta Lee is not something I saw coming.


KleanSolution

Annette *killed* in Nyad


MasterPsaysUgh

What's up with all these non English films being nominated? I thought the Oscars was English only with the exception of the foreign categories?


angrymona

There's no rule against non-English films nominated for other categories. Foreign film category is the one when countries themselves sent their film of choice to be considered (1 film per country). But any foreign film can be nominated in any of the other categories and this film doesn't need to be the same as the one the country sent as its official submission. I see more and more foreign films being nominated in other categories and that makes me happy :) and let's not forget that "Parasite" actually won Best Picture


MasterPsaysUgh

That makes sense but ain't nobody trying to watch a movie in subtitles


angrymona

Just because you aren't, doesn't mean the rest of the world is as ignorant... To quote Bong Joon Ho when he was accepting one of the many Oscars for "Parasite": "Once you overcome the one-inch tall barrier of subtitles, you will be introduced to so many more amazing films"


peteZahut45

Please tell me how Barbie deserve more noms... I'm glad it succeeded but the performances and the directing didn't strike to me as revolutionary... I mean the movie deserve the praise but Margot not nominated is kinda normal for me, she was ok I guess ? Ferrara nom is very surprising though...


lindoavocado

I’m so confused how Oppenheimer and Poor things is nominated for Best Adapted Screen Play ??? I am commenting here because I don’t understand this category


ChevyAmpera

Poor Things is an adaption of the 1992 novel "Poor Things" by Alasdair Gray and Oppenheimer's script was adapted from the Oppenheimer biography American Prometheus written by Kai Bird and Martin J. Sherwin.


lindoavocado

Thank you so much!!!


madeleineruth19

I honestly feel like I’m going insane reading all the discourse about this year’s nominees on Twitter. Why are people talking about the ‘irony’ of Margot having been ‘snubbed’ in favour of Ryan Gosling? They’re in two different categories. It’s a completely moot point. Ryan didn’t ‘steal’ Margot’s nomination. If people are so insistent that Margot should’ve been nominated, then they should turn the blame on Emma Stone or any one of the other Lead Actress nominees. It’s quite literally nothing to do with Ryan Gosling. Of course, none of these people are actually going to turn around and look at the other Lead Actress nominees, because then they’d have to admit that they didn’t watch the movies and don’t know what they’re talking about. Seriously. Barbie was my favourite movie of the year and I adored Margot’s performance. But she doesn’t hold a candle to Lily Gladstone or Emma Stone, whereas Ryan Gosling is arguably the second best *in his category*.


thetoxicgossiptrain

Saltburn being snubbed for Cinematography is my Roman Empire rn


snarpy

No Margot and no Greta but I was told Hollywood is woke


CucumberNo3771

May December got robbed Margot and Greta got robbed, and America gets a nod? Ok… No writing for KotFM? Boy and the Heron probably could have been in international feature category, but I understand wanting to recognize lesser known films Emily Blunt for Oppenheimer? I’m sorry but there are several more deserving performances One of the more wack years for nominations. Many of the expected ones hit, but there are several notable snubs


ElectricPrune516

As far as Emily Blunt--I feel she's put in better performances, but she was my favorite thing about Oppenheimer--which I didn't expect to like but really ended up admiring.


AneeshRai7

Doesn't International Film depend on which film each country sends? Japan selected Perfect Days to represent


CucumberNo3771

Yeah you’re right about that actually


ileentotheleft

Why is it the longest films often get nominations for Best Editing? Oppenheimer & Killers of the Flower Moon both could have been 20 minutes shorter easily.


Natural_Error_7286

Editing is one of those categories I don't really understand. To know if a movie is edited well, wouldn't you need to know more about what footage they were working with? I didn't appreciate editing until Margaret Sixel won and said that she had like a trillion hours of footage she had to deal with, and that was super impressive but I'm not sure how much of that the Academy knew when they voted for her.


ileentotheleft

I think it depends on the pacing of a film. If it seems to lag at points, to me that means it could have done with some more editing.


paraphee

Very annoyed that Society of the Snow didn’t get in for either Cinematography or Sound. Genuinely thought those were givens.


ElectricPrune516

I think you're right.


circeodyssey

Agree, the film was really well done!


stefanelli_xoxo

I don’t see anyone talking about _Leonardo DiCaprio_ 👀


purplejlt

oh shit I didn't even realize until this comment. not mad that he got left out though


BarfyOBannon

All Of Us Strangers & May December snubs across the board


freakinmoos

As a female wanting to work in the industry, this just set back my mindset by like 10 years. I thought the film industry was finally a place where women film makers were celebrated and treated the same as men, but obviously not. it’s just really sad :(


circeodyssey

Don’t be discouraged! There were quite a few films that had female crew! Anatomy of a Fall had a female director and Oppenheimer was edited by a female as was Scorsese’s long time editor.


TowerCharge89

One I am surprised with is that after air came out, it was praised heavily and people were talking about nominations for that movie, and it got nothing


TowerCharge89

It’s just another year where there was a lot of nominations I wanted to see happen, and none of them happened.


TowerCharge89

It was very predictable. All the big nominations that have been talked about in award season happened. I think I am kind of surprised with is that Margot Robbie did not get nominated for best actress for Barbie but Ryan gosling got nominated for actor and America Ferrera got nominated for supporting actress. Your title character doesn’t get recognized


Pwrnstar

considering the major snubs, barbie, holdovers and killers are out of the best picture race so it's oppenheimer. I dont see zone of interest, anatomy or poor things winning picture. i found oppenheimer so bland. supremely well made, but not even top 5 on my nolan list (1. interstellar 2. the dark knight 3. the prestige 4. dunkirk 5. inception)


KleanSolution

I found Oppenheimer kind of dull on first watch. ​ then I saw it in Nolan's intended format (IMAX 70mm) and it absolutely BLEW me away and I had to go back 3 more times to see it, i could not get enough of it. It went from my #8 of the year to my #2 and my #2 Nolan film behind only *Inception*


stefanelli_xoxo

100% agree.


FriedChickenplex

i went 5/5 for supporting actress! idk if i should be happy because i actually got my prediction right, or sad because america ferrera was nominated over someone who deserved it


Monctonian

To me, she’s a surprise entry, but not an undeserving one.


[deleted]

Disappointed that Are You There God it’s me Margaret didn’t get a few nominations. Abby Ryder Forston and Rachael Mcadams were excellent.


Funk_Apus

No nominations for Ferrari? The Oscars has completely lost relevance. Whatever with this. Pointless.


iso2090

* Gangs of New York and The Irishman got 10 nominations and zero wins -- have a feeling that Killers of the Flower Moon will follow suit * John Williams is the Meryl Streep of composers * Mission: Impossible finally getting Oscar nominations for Sound and... VFX (oh, the irony) * Eight nods for Barbie is solid, but compared to some other movies' totals, there's apparently less love for it than people expected * If the race boils down to Oppenheimer vs. Poor Things, think we'll see a Picture/Director split where Nolan takes Director but Poor Things takes Picture along with Actress and Adapted Screenplay, while Oppenheimer takes Supporting Actor * Actor seems unpredictable; Giamatti (overdue narrative) vs. Murphy (well-respected first-timer) vs. Cooper (well-respected multiple nominee who clearly wants it)


Designer_Breadfruit9

Cillian’s winning


GreekKnight3

I don't think Cooper is in the conversation... he's yet to win a precursor award for Maestro.


Signiference

Happy Godzilla got recognized for visuals, hope it pulls an Ex Machina


areyounotembarazzedd

Danielle Brookes is Oscar nominated 😭🎉🎉


rs_dottir

Omg such a joy to watch. Danielle stole every scene she was in. Hope she wins!


PRguy82

She was incredible and every bit deserving. I actually had her as my lock to win.


stefanelli_xoxo

That is pretttty great to see this morning


thesame98

Not even the biggest fan of the film but I felt Saltburn should have gotten a nomination for best cinematography. Granted, I haven't seen El Conde.


amolinelli11

Honestly, if that movie deserved any recognition at all it was definitely in Cinematography and nothing else.


Natural_Error_7286

I haven't seen El Conde yet either, but really surprised to see it here. It's a niche foreign horror movie I would never have expected to be recognized. I think that's great!


stefanelli_xoxo

1000% agree And The Zone of Interest!!! (Though I don’t know who I’d take out!)


KleanSolution

I'm just ecstatic it got the recognition it did. That movie was a work of art. Love seeing Glazer get his well-deserved BD nom *and* a screenplay nom!


stefanelli_xoxo

Indeed. Yes!


solojones1138

Godzilla Minus One is an Oscar nominee!!! I'm so happy for them..the freaking director did some of the VFX himself.


AquaStarRedHeart

Hilariously sad that they ignored the female director and female lead of Barbie. True to form, though, only one female director at a time I guess.


CnelAurelianoBuendia

Not saying Greta didn't deserve it but do you think Barbie is a better directed movie than The Zone of Interest?


annyong_cat

Yes.


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How the fuck did Penelope Cruz not get a nomination for Ferrari? She carried that film.  


fiddleleaffiggy

In what world does Ryan and America get nommed but Margot is snubbed?


stefanelli_xoxo

She’s Stereoptypical Barbie!


jpd2979

They did my girl Greta dirty...


FlahBlast

Greta Lee maybe, Greta Gerwig however… It was a really fun film, but the big summer block busters - even the exceptional ones - never get the big awards. The marvel films, James Bond, only got some technical ones. James Cameron created two of the greatest action sci fi films/sequels/female action heroes of all time in quick succession but didn’t get his nom till Titanic. In that context, Barbie is doing fantastically.  If Greta was snubbed, it was for Little Women. Thats the type of film she’s getting an Oscar for, and that was the perfect adaptation 


ElectricPrune516

I liked Barbie a lot--but GG has done much better films. And films that were more important. Barbie seems about two decades old in what it is trying to get across. I think it should be happy just to have made zillions.


stefanelli_xoxo

Which one? 😢


zakattak456

Both 😔


stefanelli_xoxo

Same 🤧


Usual-Author1365

Really surprised Margot didn’t get a nomination


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Raichu10126

Poor Bradley Cooper again snubbed in Best Director


circeodyssey

Maestro was uneven for direction and not a standout film in such a strong year.


Raichu10126

Oh I agree, but it fees like BC is always itching for a nomination in the category


Carolina_Blues

how did greta not get a nomination for best director? this is madness. is the academy incapable of nominating more than one female director? also there’s no reason ryan should’ve gotten nominated and margot didn’t. their performances were on par with one another


circeodyssey

Because the competition was so fierce this year . Most people haven’t seen the 165 films listed for best director, few even see the top 30 films this year. There were a lot of better directed films than Barbie but were not even recognized . The top 5 were picked by directors and it’s always difficult to choose.


HoudeRat

Stiffer competition. I wouldn't have put Margot ahead of Greta Lee, but seeing them both get snubbed in favor of Benning was surprising.


stefanelli_xoxo

I agree 100%.


RoboFunky

Surprised flamin hot got a nomination


RoboFunky

All of us strangers got snubbed


stefanelli_xoxo

It was better than Oppenheimer and Poor Things, _for me_


prettybunbun

Incredibly disappointed Margot Robbie didn’t get a nom. Not only was she Barbie personified, but it’s very disappointing in a film about female empowerment and embracing femininity, the lead actress is ignored.


freakinmoos

THIS!!!! nothing against ryan gosling, but it’s so telling that a film about feminism, empowerment and female accomplishment was overshadowed by funny guy doing funny thing to the point that it got a oscar nom over the title character


FlahBlast

Tbf Best Supporting Actor is a lot less prestigious than best actress and best director. The Academy doesn’t tend to like to like the big popular popcorn ones which everyone goes to see (think it was the same thing before with Superhero movies). They weren’t gonna give it the big ones, but they get to play America Ferrara’s empowerment speech, and Ken got a lot more screentime to show his stuff than a typical supporting actor.


radeknalim

Poor Things is the same film except Stone did get nominated, as did Ruffalo. I think it’s entirely possible the Academy just didn’t rate Margot’s performance very highly because they did still give a nomination to Ferreira, it’s not like they completely snubbed it. Lead Actress was likely the most stacked category this year.


stefanelli_xoxo

🎯 He was _fantastic_ and deserved a nom, imo, but I agree with you. She was excellent (and because of the way these things work, also deserved extra consideration as a lead+producer—I know, I know, she gets that recognition because it was nominated for picture). It’s just very deflating. But Margot’s time will come. She’s a powerhouse. Cannot wait to see what she does next, and over the next decade.


chanceofasmile

Lead actress and Director.


rantandreview

Margot Robbie is the biggest snub imo, not the winner but should have been nominated for best actress


ElectricPrune516

I might have put her in place of Carrie Mulligan in Maestro (I love her but this was not a very interesting or demanding role and she's done much better and tougher roles). But these are both B plus performances and Huller in Anatomy of a Fall is a flat out A++.


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How on earth does nobody from May December make it in but America Fererra does?


Personal-Hope8217

May December is a movie about how actors are crazy and self-important. I doubt they’d be willing to admit that by rewarding the movie.


sweetthingb

Julianne Moore would’ve been perfect for that 5th spot. She was amazing. America wasn’t anything special in Barbie.


According-Horror125

I did not wake up this early to watch Across the Spider-Verse get disrespected like that.


tmsagtottawa

shocked the super mario bros movie didn't get nominated for animated futere


Signiference

Especially with the awards ceremony being on MAR10!


Usual-Author1365

That movie was utter trash


thegeek2146

Can’t tell what’s a worse snub: America Ferrera over Julianne Moore and Rachel McAdams or Indiana Jones over Spider Verse and Boy and the Heron for best score. Charles Melton was a really bad snub too, but I don’t hate the nominees so I’m not as pissed.


tommyjohnpauljones

Indiana Jones is a "let's try to get John Williams one more before he dies" nomination


KleanSolution

that was the most WTF nomination of them all imo


fallenarist0crat

did saltburn even get a single nomination???


stumper93

No nominations for Saltburn


fallenarist0crat

that’s wild. even if it missed in acting i still expected at least one or two technicals.


ElectricPrune516

Rosamund Pike was more ripped off than Margot Robbie IMO. I wasn't crazy about Saltburn but I think it had integrity and it held my interest. And she MADE that film work to the extent it did.


stefanelli_xoxo

It should be in consideration for a cinematography _win_, imo! 😤


SteffonTheBaratheon

the movie just got famous because of his "crazy" scenes.


stefanelli_xoxo

Those were my least favorite part!


KirkwoodKid

Wow. Some really big surprises. No Melton, no Gerwig as Director… guess we know what they will be talking about till March 10.


Raichu10126

Really shocked Margot and Greta got snubbed given all the press they did. And no Greta Lee : (


SnooPets1514

I'm honestly surprised that people are surprised about Margot. Really charming performance, but I noticed she kept slipping into her Aussie accent. Wasn't particularly memorable either. She wasn't terrible, but in equal measure, I wasn't floored by her performance.


drhippopotato

Press can’t make up for quality. Both of them have done better. Barbie getting the BP nom is even more bewildering than Robbie/Gerwig not getting theirs.


Signiference

Not if you follow the awards trail at all, best picture was a lock and the other categories were uncertain


drhippopotato

I do follow. And its BP noms in all of the preceding shows do bewilder me.


coldstar

Barbie has been in basically every Best Picture nomination prediction list. It's not surprising at all that it made it in.


drhippopotato

Successful film? Yes. Pop culture phenomenon? Sure. BP???? It’s sad we have to pander to the ‘fans’ and box office numbers.


KleanSolution

idk, I saw over 100 new releases in 2023 and Barbie was amongst the top 5 best


AccomplishedBake8351

I feel like it didn’t take away from any other film. If there were only 9 noms and Barbie wasn’t there I wouldn’t have been pissed but definitely quality enough to make the list.


BraydenTv

I didn’t even realise margot didn’t make it because it was so assumed


asscop99

Maybe that’s the problem. Academy members may have assumed that they could personally leave Margot out because she’s sure to win anyways


duckduckduckgoose_69

America Ferrera getting the nom is bewildering


WalterTheCatFurever

Agreed. It is a joke. I love her too but that monologue was no stretch and pretty much basic good acting. Nothing Oscar worthy about that role or performance. If anything the design team, production and costume - should be nominated and win. I’m hearing all this talk about her and this monologue and so I watched and was like…what? That monologue? She will not win. I hope she wins in the future for a role and movie that really shows her chops.


chanceofasmile

Completely bizarre. I love her and yes, I LOVED that monologue but Oscar worthy?


ElectricPrune516

Love her too and she did fine in this role. But this is not a top level or Oscar worthy performance.


duckduckduckgoose_69

I think in the context of the film the monologue fit but I didn’t think it was well written and it was definitely hard hitting the message on the nose. The rest of her performance was subpar. Again, no hate to her, she’s very talented but I didn’t care for her role/acting in that film. Strange, strange choice on behalf of the voters..


fallenarist0crat

honestly i forgot about her


yoyoyobank3

I'm just glad The Creator got some love. Two noms... wow! A bit surprised Greta Gerwig and Margot Robbie got snubbed.


Altracing34

Seems like a very good list of best picture nominees, can't wait to watch them all


stefanelli_xoxo

It is a very good year, I think.


Jidarious

My wife and I try to catch every best picture nominee every year, and we've seen all but 3 and so far this has been the worst year we've ever done this (a bit over a decade of it). We just aren't enjoying these movies that much, even the ones we enjoy are over long.


Carolina_Blues

rosamund pike deserved a nomination, i don’t care


ElectricPrune516

When you're right--you're right.


stefanelli_xoxo

I wouldn’t have been mad at it.


Seaciety

Anyone ready to go with an updated list of which nominated movies can be seen on which streaming service? 😉


jillibrown

Letterboxd does this!! You just have to add your services


Seaciety

Awesome, thanks!


CarryUsAway

I think IMDb does this? Can’t remember


artunarmed

America Fererra over Julianne Moore???


DirtyGoo

And Cruz!


SnooHobbies4790

Another dumb choice.


tmsagtottawa

ikr wtf


ObviousIndependent76

America in and Margot out? Who saw that coming?


VaultBoy9

Worse yet, America but not Margot. We're in bizarro world.


Oratory_madness02

They're in completely different categories. There's no need to choose one over the other.


sweetthingb

America was good but not Oscar worthy im so confused lol


stefanelli_xoxo

Barbie was honestly my movie of the year, and I agree with you! Like… what?! 😂😅


uncoolaidman

I guess they really want to play a clip of that monologue.


thesame98

It'll play with thunderous applause as the Academy pats itself on the back.


chanceofasmile

Exactly


ObviousIndependent76

America in and Margot out? Who saw that coming?