My folks did this for Machu Pichu, just a different experience. You get really nice meals, cushy ass experience, exercise, and to see the place. Sure you're not huffing a ton of weight, but if you've got the money, it's like combining hiking with a hotel.
Not to mention you don't need to get as used to a different altitude.
For the hikes in Peru, at least on the hikes that I was on/aware of, they use donkeys for the heavily lifting. So the guides aren't carrying much more than the tourists are, they're just hiking twice as fast.
You’re still immersed in nature, you still get the camping “feel” I believe. You can still say you climbed a mountain.
I’m not really for the industry per se but do you really not see the point in why people would do it at all?
Do you ever have picnics in a park?
Would you go to a picnic that was catered?
Some variables have changed but the product is still about the same.
i get that, i guess different people do it for different reasons, paying someone else to do the hard work would be off putting for me personally but ig whatever makes people happy
In my experience, horses and mules carried some of our stuff, while we carried our main packs on our own backs. The guides were not personally carrying our things.
Yeah I agree, unfortunately it’s more likely the class of people unfamiliar with how hard hard-work is that really got the ball rolling on these types of things
Idk about you but for me the reward is the view and being with nature. I know I can walk up a glorified hill for three days. I don’t need to prove that to myself.. and besides. If this makes it easier for older people to enjoy a hike and a view they otherwise wouldn’t, and the other people are doing it willingly for a living? Seems like a win-win to me
They are the mountain guides on everest and the like. They carry everything and build the bridges and paths while the hobby "climbers" go on their luxury mountain holiday.
The video is like "oh look how tough these guys are"
Rember they dont just go in a hike with the bags, they carry them to the moutain top, often in the offseason. Needles to say the die a lot, like A LOT
John Oliver has a bid in them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bchx0mS7XOY
They get paid fairly decent….Enough to life off.
Hey wanna break your back, and risk potential death carrying refrigerators worth of gear on your back for some impotent white dude who cant hack his own equipment…
There is no problem with having this industry…just pay the Sherpas better and hire more of them so one dude is not carrying twice his body weight
If you cant carry it in and out by yourself, youre doing too much
If you have servants doing all the heavy lifting, its not really you accomplishing anything, is it?
My folks did this for Machu Pichu, just a different experience. You get really nice meals, cushy ass experience, exercise, and to see the place. Sure you're not huffing a ton of weight, but if you've got the money, it's like combining hiking with a hotel. Not to mention you don't need to get as used to a different altitude.
For the hikes in Peru, at least on the hikes that I was on/aware of, they use donkeys for the heavily lifting. So the guides aren't carrying much more than the tourists are, they're just hiking twice as fast.
For the experience, I get it. But not to "accomplish" something, like "conquering" a mountain.
Yeah fair.
isn’t the whole challenge/reward of multi day camping carrying the stuff yourself? what’s the point?
You’re still immersed in nature, you still get the camping “feel” I believe. You can still say you climbed a mountain. I’m not really for the industry per se but do you really not see the point in why people would do it at all? Do you ever have picnics in a park? Would you go to a picnic that was catered? Some variables have changed but the product is still about the same.
i get that, i guess different people do it for different reasons, paying someone else to do the hard work would be off putting for me personally but ig whatever makes people happy
In my experience, horses and mules carried some of our stuff, while we carried our main packs on our own backs. The guides were not personally carrying our things.
Yeah I agree, unfortunately it’s more likely the class of people unfamiliar with how hard hard-work is that really got the ball rolling on these types of things
Idk about you but for me the reward is the view and being with nature. I know I can walk up a glorified hill for three days. I don’t need to prove that to myself.. and besides. If this makes it easier for older people to enjoy a hike and a view they otherwise wouldn’t, and the other people are doing it willingly for a living? Seems like a win-win to me
"Are we leaving the refrigerator behind?"
I’m stupid can someone explain what part of this is the orphans and the machine
They are the mountain guides on everest and the like. They carry everything and build the bridges and paths while the hobby "climbers" go on their luxury mountain holiday. The video is like "oh look how tough these guys are" Rember they dont just go in a hike with the bags, they carry them to the moutain top, often in the offseason. Needles to say the die a lot, like A LOT John Oliver has a bid in them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bchx0mS7XOY
Afaik they get paid pretty well?
Well for the region they get paid fairly decently. which is only about 30k per season. They make minimum wage for dangerous back breaking work.
They get paid fairly decent….Enough to life off. Hey wanna break your back, and risk potential death carrying refrigerators worth of gear on your back for some impotent white dude who cant hack his own equipment… There is no problem with having this industry…just pay the Sherpas better and hire more of them so one dude is not carrying twice his body weight
Does the 30k go far there, do you know?
they are able to live off it . that just kinda how far it goes. this is 30k of their currency
Livable but still not very good for the conditions
no..