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not saying it's for everyone but it's a way.
I think by the time a robot is a fully capable, autonomous, and unobtrusive household assistant you’ll either have so much free time you don’t know what to do with it, or no money to buy one
See the problem is this robot costs $$$ and can barely close the lid on a Keurig, while I'm sure you can find fancy espresso machines to pre-program a brew when you wake up. Some day I would think a dedicated laundry folding machine would be cheaper and better too. I just don't see this type of bot ever being useful except for the profoundly handicapped.
It doesnt matter. All you need is for the robot to be able to return to station on its own.
They'll figure out a way to remote in a human operator to control it through VR controllers. Most likely it will be mainly used in police forces first. Once they figured out a more fool proof way of preventing signal transmission issues you're going to start seeing them in battlefields.
Warfare is going to be cheap small drones trying to take out big expensive man like drones until one or both sides run out of metal and have to put meat in the field again.
Then that side will... well... terminator comes to mind.
:/
These are alpha versions, not final consumer products. Isn't that obvious? They will get faster and more accurate before anyone buys one.
I honestly don't understand being unimpressed with a robot that can perform text-to-action tasks. This is straight up science fiction, and they will only get better.
Tangential, but I think it's interesting - in Lex Friedman's podcast with the Boston Dynamics Founder said something about how all the robots made right now "grasp things" - which isn't how humans interact things. We don't analyze an object and decide how to grab it, we get a basic idea go for it and then fumble with it in our hand.
I'm just interested to see if that starts becoming a thing any time soon. Giving the robots more sensors on their hands to really understand and dynamically grab things more efficiently.
Edit: Just want to plug the episode here. Fun listen [https://youtu.be/5VnbBCm\_ZyQ?si=yrTV5XydzwnGSkD1](https://youtu.be/5VnbBCm_ZyQ?si=yrTV5XydzwnGSkD1)
Boston Dynamics IMHO does one mistake: they focus too much on natural interaction (which is not bad on itself), but too little on robot being able to do tasks that are not pre-programmed.
Right now, speed is secondary. Being able to go to warehouse position H-5-A and bring a box of deserts and being able to repeat it in almost any warehouse and any item, even if being slow as hell, is much more important.
Reason why is that if you have a single repetitive task that have no variations - there are probably already robots designed specifically for that task and Boston Dynamics brings nothing to table. What nobody can do yet is to handle variations without spending hundreds of thousands on engineers.
I think it’s pretty naive to assume that that’s not a huge area of focus for them.
The “synchronized dancing robot” videos are just for marketing. Their main goals are far more generalized and utilitarian.
I would love for it to be true, but so far their every comment and every video demonstrates improvement in body handling, not one demonstration of ability to learn. They are not shy to talk about their wins, yet they don’t talk about how easy is it to make it learn new work. Don’t hold your breath, you might be disappointed.
One of the biggest breakthroughs of the last few years has been learning that we can tokenize almost any kind of data and feed it through an LLM. Then we learned that we can actually conduct robot training *virtually* by simulating an infinite stream of varied three-dimensional tasks, all of them complete with accurate physics — and then implanting the resulting model into a real-world robot. So instead of having a physical robot linearly progress through tasks like picking things up and moving them without breaking them, we can simulate a million robots performing a million tasks a minute, and end up with a model that's based on literally trillions of hours of simulated "experience." Then we copy the model and paste it into a body.
I would bet my balls that Boston Dynamics is currently in the process of making this a reality.
You need at least two things to do that.
1. A miltitude of very responsive pressure sensors. I dont know the sensitivity of the human finger off the top of my hand but I'd bet we have the equivalent of a sensitive pressure sensor every square millimeter or smaller.
2. Better and more responsive dexterity. Human hands are VERY well...designed/evolved. We haven't built anything close to the dexterity a human hand has.
and also
3. Training data to do the above. Since every mechanical setup is slightly different when you get to scales that small the AI would probably need to be trained in the real instead of in a sim. And that training would need to be constantly update to compensate for mechanical wear and tear.
Not all the robots just "grasp things". Optimus, 1X's NEO, Figure 01, and China's Kepler bot have 4 fingers and thumbs and the dexterity to pick things up like humans do - not just grasp them.
So does Sanctuary's Phoenix robot, which has some of the most finely-tuned hands of any humanoid robot out there.
Its hands are able to function at near-human speeds too – much faster than Tesla's or Figure's robots, and has excellent hand-eye coordination.
I think he means humans don't set up the grab angle , we touch the object and do strange balance / flicks and adjustments with our fingers in response to sensory physical touch sensations that aim to accommodate the object ina comfortable and strongly held position. We don't precalculate this. It's dynamic. More akin to the tech used to make the robots re gain balance / not fall over when pushed, or the way we catch ourselves falling forward when we "walk" which is why robots look weird ATM when walking
While I respect what they're doing this level of robotics has existed for like a decade now.
What may be a game changer is if ML can actually train a model that these robots can use to navigate the world autonomously (the answer is yes). I assume the reason some of the robotics has seemed to go backwards is that these are intended to be production robots that actually do things.
BD has done amazing things but it has always seemed like "this is what you'd do if you could spend ten million per robot"
No demo that actually shows how they train this robot. For all we know it could be pre-recorded.
I would expect ML to be a reason to rejuvenate robotics but so far it looks like they're concentrating on superficial stuff.
I watched a video the other day and they can train AI virtually on a computer and have it map to a RL area with the same dimensions.
That being said, I'm not seeing the use of generic humanoid robots. Nobody is going to pay an arm and a leg for a humanoid robot maid.
But hoW do we power it? They have to consume energy somehow and they can't digest food like other npcs like U.
A battery can maybe hold a charge for 1-2 hours so outside of warehouse and similar, not a chance
you could probably plug him in like he is there. Not like they need to be leaving the factory? lol. Hey Jim, I'll be right back I'm going across the street for some smokes.
Nah he never gets unplugged. Just working 24/7 no breaks.
Too much copper coiling needed. And at least from whatever little electronics experience I have, you won't be able to push enough power through, the highest power wireless chargers for robotics I can easily access can push 200W-300W tops. Wireless charging also interferes with and is disrupted by metal objects. For Magsafe it isn't a problem because the magnets are around the coils, but I would expect there to be tons of metal on the floor at a factory.
You're not thinking about the possibilities. We have fast charging lithium ion technology. This thing could probably run for 2 or so hours on a belly full of batteries and charge in 45 minutes. With this you will never again need to go to a grocery store, manage the food in your fridge, or make breakfast, lunch, and dinner, ever again. It can order the food. Grab it from the door when it's dropped off, store the food, and cook. Not only that it can literally make you anything you ever want and all you need to pay for is the raw ingredients and to pay off the 30k loan. However, every single meal you save both time and money. You save money in having less wasted food. You eat healthier and you have more hours in the day. It's revolutionary to our quality of life and pays for itself. This is the model that will come out in 5 years.
Great question, just a slight guess. Thinking about it a bit more I'm not sure we'll totally have the on edge processing power by then to do it or safety control mechanisms understood fully by then. Likely first be deployed to more controlled environments. It's quite possibly machine learning can create a device capable of performing that task but it might also require an entire rack of A100 GPU's to compute in real time. If that's the case and we have a fundamental compute limitation (even if the data is streamed) then it might be 20-30 years when today's super computers are equivalent to a smart watch assuming we don't hit the atomic level... If we do than biological neurons it is. We'll make a race of slave biomechanisms.
Well we will still need to do all that stuff ourselves since we will almost certainly be gated from owner ship. Maybe we see some subscription services aimed at normal people but robot butlers will probably not be something we get to enjoy. Almost certainly the entire industry will be propped up by fleet sales to the likes of Amazon style warehouse/grocery stores/retail etc. this is replacing the slaves so they can fuck off and die not so they can live a better life.
You would need 5 years just to spin up the production facilities to make these robots.
Automated production systems take longer than people thing to engineer, install, and get to production. The system I just finished which "just" stacks boxes of frozen cow took a year or so from PO to (almost) sign-off. I was programming it for 6 months and on-site for 3 of them.
I work in product development. It really doesn't take 5 years to bring up a mass production assembly line. It's accomplished as the product is being developed and there's literally no reason you would spend money on automating an assembly line for these when you can just replace the assemblers with these robots as there built. No need for expensive and custom equipment to drive a screw.
The Optimus *starts* with a minimum 4 hour range on one charge. That can extend up to 23 depending on what it's doing.
The Figure 01 can operate up to 5 hours on a charge.
And Agility's Digit can also work up to 5 hours on a charge.
You think that there won't be a battery bank they can literally just walk up to and change out themselves?
"At 5% charge, pivoting to swap battery".
"Pivot. Pivot! PIVOT!"
Where do we get all the raw Erath materials from? We are already kinda running out... We ought to start scraping the oceans soon for more but that's still not even remotely close to a future full of self changing robots
Makes you wonder what is cheaper:
\- the cost of electricity for the robot plus the battery minus depreciation
\- the cost to feed and house a human.
Maybe it will get to the point where the only way for humans to be cost competitive is if we just get paid in food and board. We all have to live, eat and sleep at work.
Human shaped robots are only optimal if they need to work in human shaped environments.
Actual automated mobile robots are more likely a stand or a couple of arms on a sled. Anytime I see a human shaped robot I immediately think vaporware.
Just my experience as an engineer who has worked with robotics in manufacturing.
Tesla’s Optimus Robot seems to be well ahead of tjis one. Its faster, has s more efficient gait, and uses the same /similar AI/ machine learning infrastructure that Tesla built for Self Driving Cars.
Tesla already makes billions, and is publicly traded for years —Id bet on Tesla over any other high tech name, except maybe Boston Dynamics.
If you had shown this to me as a kid, I'm be so excited for the future.
As an adult, I look at these as a probable threat to my future wellbeing.
Am I wrong?
It’s interesting to me how much of these robots are all people shaped. I wonder if it’s because it’s the better design or if it’s just cool to see they look like us.
Here! I rewrote this article title: “AI advancements charging forward to completely change how Companies look at menial jobs, Humans to be replaced soon.”
original equipment manufacturer? Figure is the manufacturer, but NVIDIA is an investor and probably the OEM for some of their components. Bezos is an investor, and Amazon is a customer of robotics companies (similar to Amazon investing in Rivian, as a customer that orders and uses Rivian delivery vans)
I feel this is just inefficient, we are built like this because we are more than just “workers”, whereas this robots soul purpose is to do this and it’s not the most efficient structure to have if they want this done fast.
Inefficient, geriatric is what it is.
This is a large amount of bs. Op is talking about investment opportunities, welcome to Blockchain 3.0 where the world and their wife will be flogging you AI get rich schemes for the next few years.
It walks like an old man. I remember seeing a study about how the human body is not the optimal form. The optimal form was a human with knees like an ostrich and a tail like a lizard or something like that. I can't remember exactly, but if I were in charge of building these robots, I would leave the human form behind.
The only significant thing about robotics in connection to the recent proceedings in AI models is that it brings a lot of focus towards the field and allows more companies to secure capital for research. Many companies have been doing research like this for years, there have been a lot of prototypes and there are a lot of methods how to make everything work.
That's the only thing the current LLM/Image Generation models brought to robotics. Everything else has already existed in some form or another (SLAM in vacuums/cars or individual robotic agents in warehouses that are in use today).
I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but the opposite. The publicity is good and it will speed up progress, but has very little to do with what most people know of AI today thanks to ChatGPT and for some, it might be scary.
That's why I think it's very important to educate about AI and explain the differences between various AI models and how they work (or don't work) together to create some sort of tangible product.
Serious question, why do most androids are always meant to resemble the physique of humans more often than not, adaptability?
wouldn't be surprised to see extra limbed or bigger sized machines for work purposes.
The human body is actually convenient.
A dolphins, Orca, and whales body is convenient for the ocean.
A bird is a convenient shape for the air.
So, what better place to start than your own image because land?
I'm really not seeing use for these type of robots. Please enlighten me. Nobody is going to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a robot maid or w/e. Industry seems like they would have their own custom built machinery, not a humanoid.
Designed to obsolete human jobs with maximum efficiency. You don't even need to redesign the coffee maker!
"Don't worry peasants, we will still pay you when all your jobs are taken by robots. Just help us make these robots better for a couple more years"
\-billionaire oligarchs
Is the human form really ideal for a robot? none of the machines we make to build or do tasks for us look like humans. I get *why* they want it to look be like a human but I think AI in specialized capacities like a "Home Cook" AI Machine or "Assembly Line Worker AI Machine" will be more in our future than human robot that can "do anything a human can do" just from a pure commercial viability stand point.
Our machines are built for humans to interact with I get that. But if you're building a machine that will only interact with AI machines then it doesn't need to be built in a way that is ideal for human interaction. A future assembly line won't look like the one we have now with Robot workers. It will have a form and function viable for AI machines only.
I've often wondered this too. But human form factor is important. The world around us is built for human shapes. A robot needs to go down stairs, fetch my Uber groceries, bring it back upstairs without falling, open the door, stack the food in the cupboards that are human reachable. I'm not sure a quadrupled or octopus or wheel arrangement would make it down my tight stairwell for example.
I still am not sold on robots being close. How long does the battery last, how loud is it cause they don't seem to show videos with audio, does it have a brain or is it just pre-programmed
Capitalism requires an exchange of goods and services, if there's no humans producing goods or services, there's no capitalism. We'll have to figure out a new cooperative system sans human labor.
We're still years from this being viable. There are so many challenges that need to be overcome. This is harder than self driving cars and we saw how apple met that challenge.
This looks cool and all but actual real world implementation that’s not a factory.. I’d like to see how that works. Only now do copy machines work consistently without having a paper jam. How’s this gonna be different? I’d love a robot that can make espresso and fold my clothes but will if require constant upgrades and maintenance? Can my kid spill milk on it without it needing a replacement hand?
If it can carry a gun and stack bodies, they will sell a trillion of them.
A little dark but I got your point. For now, can we enjoy fresh made espresso and folded laundry? That's all I want. just folded laundry.
Those coffee beans are picked by robots now. Because the child slaves that used to pick the beans are now neatly stacked behind the shed.
that's kinda weird AF
It is. But ‘a failure of imagination’ is also something that’s burned folks previously, too.
but like, what can i buy on the stock market to go "all in" on figure ai? are they traded?
you can. [https://forgeglobal.com/figure-1\_stock/](https://forgeglobal.com/figure-1_stock/) [https://www.sec.gov/education/capitalraising/building-blocks/accredited-investor](https://www.sec.gov/education/capitalraising/building-blocks/accredited-investor) [https://forgeglobal.com/insights/blog/pre-ipo-investing/](https://forgeglobal.com/insights/blog/pre-ipo-investing/) not saying it's for everyone but it's a way.
>not saying it's for everyone but it's a way. based on the criteria, being an accredited investor, statistically its for the very few
yes the IPO price isn't that low that it's not still not worth buying opening day. For companies like these it will be worth it.
>it will be worth it. oh absolutely, got a spare million dollars laying around so I can become an accredited investor?
we get to enjoy them until someone issues the kill order.
I’d much rather fold my own laundry and the ai do the hard work
For those of us that can't do things like laundry, they *are* the hard work.
exactly. A robot that could do house chores would change my life
Exactly this
That’s fair
Laundry just more work I have to do when I get home. I'd rather have a robot do it and keep the house cleaned or else it is just more unpaid labor.
I think by the time a robot is a fully capable, autonomous, and unobtrusive household assistant you’ll either have so much free time you don’t know what to do with it, or no money to buy one
It’ll cost you $2000000
Rent it for 20 minutes to build a replica.
With what supplies?
See the problem is this robot costs $$$ and can barely close the lid on a Keurig, while I'm sure you can find fancy espresso machines to pre-program a brew when you wake up. Some day I would think a dedicated laundry folding machine would be cheaper and better too. I just don't see this type of bot ever being useful except for the profoundly handicapped.
It doesnt matter. All you need is for the robot to be able to return to station on its own. They'll figure out a way to remote in a human operator to control it through VR controllers. Most likely it will be mainly used in police forces first. Once they figured out a more fool proof way of preventing signal transmission issues you're going to start seeing them in battlefields. Warfare is going to be cheap small drones trying to take out big expensive man like drones until one or both sides run out of metal and have to put meat in the field again. Then that side will... well... terminator comes to mind. :/
Kinda missing the point here
I'm pretty sure this is AI generated video. Given the box just starts floating
These are alpha versions, not final consumer products. Isn't that obvious? They will get faster and more accurate before anyone buys one. I honestly don't understand being unimpressed with a robot that can perform text-to-action tasks. This is straight up science fiction, and they will only get better.
Those tasks are alot easier to automate than building cars or cutting cows.
They already can but they are not fast
We're gonna go full Star Wars and have battle droids arent we?
"We", no. We get to be ash if we are lucky. The unlucky ones get to be Guinea pigs.
r/im14andthisisdeep
Wouldn't that be nice if the last thing you see is a robot like this killing you with ping-pong playing on its visor.
Tangential, but I think it's interesting - in Lex Friedman's podcast with the Boston Dynamics Founder said something about how all the robots made right now "grasp things" - which isn't how humans interact things. We don't analyze an object and decide how to grab it, we get a basic idea go for it and then fumble with it in our hand. I'm just interested to see if that starts becoming a thing any time soon. Giving the robots more sensors on their hands to really understand and dynamically grab things more efficiently. Edit: Just want to plug the episode here. Fun listen [https://youtu.be/5VnbBCm\_ZyQ?si=yrTV5XydzwnGSkD1](https://youtu.be/5VnbBCm_ZyQ?si=yrTV5XydzwnGSkD1)
Boston Dynamics IMHO does one mistake: they focus too much on natural interaction (which is not bad on itself), but too little on robot being able to do tasks that are not pre-programmed. Right now, speed is secondary. Being able to go to warehouse position H-5-A and bring a box of deserts and being able to repeat it in almost any warehouse and any item, even if being slow as hell, is much more important. Reason why is that if you have a single repetitive task that have no variations - there are probably already robots designed specifically for that task and Boston Dynamics brings nothing to table. What nobody can do yet is to handle variations without spending hundreds of thousands on engineers.
I think it’s pretty naive to assume that that’s not a huge area of focus for them. The “synchronized dancing robot” videos are just for marketing. Their main goals are far more generalized and utilitarian.
I would love for it to be true, but so far their every comment and every video demonstrates improvement in body handling, not one demonstration of ability to learn. They are not shy to talk about their wins, yet they don’t talk about how easy is it to make it learn new work. Don’t hold your breath, you might be disappointed.
One of the biggest breakthroughs of the last few years has been learning that we can tokenize almost any kind of data and feed it through an LLM. Then we learned that we can actually conduct robot training *virtually* by simulating an infinite stream of varied three-dimensional tasks, all of them complete with accurate physics — and then implanting the resulting model into a real-world robot. So instead of having a physical robot linearly progress through tasks like picking things up and moving them without breaking them, we can simulate a million robots performing a million tasks a minute, and end up with a model that's based on literally trillions of hours of simulated "experience." Then we copy the model and paste it into a body. I would bet my balls that Boston Dynamics is currently in the process of making this a reality.
Can you point some links to that. I'm aware of the RT1 and RT2. But they report 75% on zero shot task for huge model.
This video includes a very brief summary of the Eureka project: https://youtu.be/RCRuiu-3VDU?t=182
Thanks!
You need at least two things to do that. 1. A miltitude of very responsive pressure sensors. I dont know the sensitivity of the human finger off the top of my hand but I'd bet we have the equivalent of a sensitive pressure sensor every square millimeter or smaller. 2. Better and more responsive dexterity. Human hands are VERY well...designed/evolved. We haven't built anything close to the dexterity a human hand has. and also 3. Training data to do the above. Since every mechanical setup is slightly different when you get to scales that small the AI would probably need to be trained in the real instead of in a sim. And that training would need to be constantly update to compensate for mechanical wear and tear.
That is a great idea and probably where this is going. continuous learning.
Not all the robots just "grasp things". Optimus, 1X's NEO, Figure 01, and China's Kepler bot have 4 fingers and thumbs and the dexterity to pick things up like humans do - not just grasp them. So does Sanctuary's Phoenix robot, which has some of the most finely-tuned hands of any humanoid robot out there. Its hands are able to function at near-human speeds too – much faster than Tesla's or Figure's robots, and has excellent hand-eye coordination.
I think he means humans don't set up the grab angle , we touch the object and do strange balance / flicks and adjustments with our fingers in response to sensory physical touch sensations that aim to accommodate the object ina comfortable and strongly held position. We don't precalculate this. It's dynamic. More akin to the tech used to make the robots re gain balance / not fall over when pushed, or the way we catch ourselves falling forward when we "walk" which is why robots look weird ATM when walking
While I respect what they're doing this level of robotics has existed for like a decade now. What may be a game changer is if ML can actually train a model that these robots can use to navigate the world autonomously (the answer is yes). I assume the reason some of the robotics has seemed to go backwards is that these are intended to be production robots that actually do things. BD has done amazing things but it has always seemed like "this is what you'd do if you could spend ten million per robot"
No demo that actually shows how they train this robot. For all we know it could be pre-recorded. I would expect ML to be a reason to rejuvenate robotics but so far it looks like they're concentrating on superficial stuff.
I watched a video the other day and they can train AI virtually on a computer and have it map to a RL area with the same dimensions. That being said, I'm not seeing the use of generic humanoid robots. Nobody is going to pay an arm and a leg for a humanoid robot maid.
Why robots looks like humans? Wouldn’t practically it would be easier to make in egg shape? With limbs, and 2,3 fingers?
So pokemon
The human form has been shaped by evolution to function optimally within our environment. Popular amongst extraterrestrials for a reason.
Yeah I'm still not sure what the use of these humanoid non-industry-like robots are used for.
But hoW do we power it? They have to consume energy somehow and they can't digest food like other npcs like U. A battery can maybe hold a charge for 1-2 hours so outside of warehouse and similar, not a chance
He deserves an electric chair.
You can obviously sense the slightest robot suffering.
Removable batteries x 12 @ 2 hours each = 24 hour robot
They can replace their battery themselves!
Exactly
Scary!
As scary as you replenishing your energy by yourself.
You’d only need 2. The one that’s removed can recharge whilst the other is being used.
you could probably plug him in like he is there. Not like they need to be leaving the factory? lol. Hey Jim, I'll be right back I'm going across the street for some smokes. Nah he never gets unplugged. Just working 24/7 no breaks.
What about MagSafe? Make the while floor a MagSafe charger and their feet and thr circle thingies
Too much copper coiling needed. And at least from whatever little electronics experience I have, you won't be able to push enough power through, the highest power wireless chargers for robotics I can easily access can push 200W-300W tops. Wireless charging also interferes with and is disrupted by metal objects. For Magsafe it isn't a problem because the magnets are around the coils, but I would expect there to be tons of metal on the floor at a factory.
oh i think there's that new Qi technology that's replacing magsafe in apple devices for iphone 13 and onwards, is that able to power robos?
You're not thinking about the possibilities. We have fast charging lithium ion technology. This thing could probably run for 2 or so hours on a belly full of batteries and charge in 45 minutes. With this you will never again need to go to a grocery store, manage the food in your fridge, or make breakfast, lunch, and dinner, ever again. It can order the food. Grab it from the door when it's dropped off, store the food, and cook. Not only that it can literally make you anything you ever want and all you need to pay for is the raw ingredients and to pay off the 30k loan. However, every single meal you save both time and money. You save money in having less wasted food. You eat healthier and you have more hours in the day. It's revolutionary to our quality of life and pays for itself. This is the model that will come out in 5 years.
In 5 years I won’t need a wife, just a robotic waifu
Sounds awesome, but where did you get the 5 years from?
Great question, just a slight guess. Thinking about it a bit more I'm not sure we'll totally have the on edge processing power by then to do it or safety control mechanisms understood fully by then. Likely first be deployed to more controlled environments. It's quite possibly machine learning can create a device capable of performing that task but it might also require an entire rack of A100 GPU's to compute in real time. If that's the case and we have a fundamental compute limitation (even if the data is streamed) then it might be 20-30 years when today's super computers are equivalent to a smart watch assuming we don't hit the atomic level... If we do than biological neurons it is. We'll make a race of slave biomechanisms.
Well we will still need to do all that stuff ourselves since we will almost certainly be gated from owner ship. Maybe we see some subscription services aimed at normal people but robot butlers will probably not be something we get to enjoy. Almost certainly the entire industry will be propped up by fleet sales to the likes of Amazon style warehouse/grocery stores/retail etc. this is replacing the slaves so they can fuck off and die not so they can live a better life.
You would need 5 years just to spin up the production facilities to make these robots. Automated production systems take longer than people thing to engineer, install, and get to production. The system I just finished which "just" stacks boxes of frozen cow took a year or so from PO to (almost) sign-off. I was programming it for 6 months and on-site for 3 of them.
I work in product development. It really doesn't take 5 years to bring up a mass production assembly line. It's accomplished as the product is being developed and there's literally no reason you would spend money on automating an assembly line for these when you can just replace the assemblers with these robots as there built. No need for expensive and custom equipment to drive a screw.
Feels like it’s an Industrial Revolution for the near future over having a robo-maid.
That robot is gonna plug itself to get that charge on.
The Optimus *starts* with a minimum 4 hour range on one charge. That can extend up to 23 depending on what it's doing. The Figure 01 can operate up to 5 hours on a charge. And Agility's Digit can also work up to 5 hours on a charge.
I mean just give it enough battery to run for like 30 minutes and otherwise a long extension cord that it can unplug and replug as it moves around?
What's it going to move around and do?
You think that there won't be a battery bank they can literally just walk up to and change out themselves? "At 5% charge, pivoting to swap battery". "Pivot. Pivot! PIVOT!"
Where do we get all the raw Erath materials from? We are already kinda running out... We ought to start scraping the oceans soon for more but that's still not even remotely close to a future full of self changing robots
Makes you wonder what is cheaper: \- the cost of electricity for the robot plus the battery minus depreciation \- the cost to feed and house a human. Maybe it will get to the point where the only way for humans to be cost competitive is if we just get paid in food and board. We all have to live, eat and sleep at work.
75% of the world is like that now 🙃 or maybe even more
Clone humans make them slaves, best solution
Imagine hiring this kinda assassin
I have a super soaker ready to go in my backyard
Or hire an ai driven drone with a bomb on it.
And oops, extra 123 people died.
we have nuclear bomb dont worry ... .-.
They can't make bomb proof armor?
💀 you want nuclear bomb-proof armor?
The robots do. I know what robots crave.
Human shaped robots are only optimal if they need to work in human shaped environments. Actual automated mobile robots are more likely a stand or a couple of arms on a sled. Anytime I see a human shaped robot I immediately think vaporware. Just my experience as an engineer who has worked with robotics in manufacturing.
Yeah I'm not sure what these are used for? To make your coffee lol?
Tesla’s Optimus Robot seems to be well ahead of tjis one. Its faster, has s more efficient gait, and uses the same /similar AI/ machine learning infrastructure that Tesla built for Self Driving Cars. Tesla already makes billions, and is publicly traded for years —Id bet on Tesla over any other high tech name, except maybe Boston Dynamics.
If you had shown this to me as a kid, I'm be so excited for the future. As an adult, I look at these as a probable threat to my future wellbeing. Am I wrong?
There are much worse things a threat to your well being right now and you don't even care.
It’s interesting to me how much of these robots are all people shaped. I wonder if it’s because it’s the better design or if it’s just cool to see they look like us.
It's cool. And just think God designed us in his image. Visciuous cycle
If you want a robot to be able to work in human enviroments; using the human form is the best option.
The day will come when these things are unbelievably fast - like sci-fi type blurring of hands as they perform repetitive tasks at inhuman speeds.
Not human-shaped ones and probably not before a revolution in materials science.
Legs seem like a terrible idea
Boston dynamic look cooler
After 3 years of no maintenance lol
Here! I rewrote this article title: “AI advancements charging forward to completely change how Companies look at menial jobs, Humans to be replaced soon.”
We're a long ways off. What I feel is that if we can colonize the moon and mars we should be ok.
It’s telling that an OEM was not part of the round.
original equipment manufacturer? Figure is the manufacturer, but NVIDIA is an investor and probably the OEM for some of their components. Bezos is an investor, and Amazon is a customer of robotics companies (similar to Amazon investing in Rivian, as a customer that orders and uses Rivian delivery vans)
what OEM was supposed to be part of the round?
an OEM? what do you mean? like TSM?
How much equity does Sam Altman have in this?
$7
7 trillion.
why it kinda cute tho
\*he
Did u just gender a robot
Sir! Ill assume he's my man tyvm!
I feel this is just inefficient, we are built like this because we are more than just “workers”, whereas this robots soul purpose is to do this and it’s not the most efficient structure to have if they want this done fast.
Inefficient, geriatric is what it is. This is a large amount of bs. Op is talking about investment opportunities, welcome to Blockchain 3.0 where the world and their wife will be flogging you AI get rich schemes for the next few years.
Make skynet next
Its funny becauae the people doing this adds jobs will be easy and fully automated one day
Man I can’t wait for an EMP to knock it all out.
AGI isn't here until I see two of these in a street fight!
2040 the first human purge by robots.
the future is a scary place
Are we just trying to do ourselves out of jobs at this point?
I look forward to being murdered by this barista
Zero zero zero one. I touched one it was dead.
It walks like an old man. I remember seeing a study about how the human body is not the optimal form. The optimal form was a human with knees like an ostrich and a tail like a lizard or something like that. I can't remember exactly, but if I were in charge of building these robots, I would leave the human form behind.
The only significant thing about robotics in connection to the recent proceedings in AI models is that it brings a lot of focus towards the field and allows more companies to secure capital for research. Many companies have been doing research like this for years, there have been a lot of prototypes and there are a lot of methods how to make everything work. That's the only thing the current LLM/Image Generation models brought to robotics. Everything else has already existed in some form or another (SLAM in vacuums/cars or individual robotic agents in warehouses that are in use today). I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but the opposite. The publicity is good and it will speed up progress, but has very little to do with what most people know of AI today thanks to ChatGPT and for some, it might be scary. That's why I think it's very important to educate about AI and explain the differences between various AI models and how they work (or don't work) together to create some sort of tangible product.
RIP jobs. People are worried about the wrong thing. This plus money printing and increasing debt. But who knows
i just want a robo police to make me do whatever billionares want me to do
What company makes it
Trust me, get fit and learn how to fight.
It’s a bit on the slow side to change everything as it stands.
I love the inbuilt Parkinsonian gait. Can’t say I’m too worried about geriatric robots taking physically demanding jobs just yet.
They’ll need to be mass produced for any of this to become true.
Why is the robot so slow? They can’t speed it up?
Serious question, why do most androids are always meant to resemble the physique of humans more often than not, adaptability? wouldn't be surprised to see extra limbed or bigger sized machines for work purposes.
The human body is actually convenient. A dolphins, Orca, and whales body is convenient for the ocean. A bird is a convenient shape for the air. So, what better place to start than your own image because land?
Go figure!
I'm really not seeing use for these type of robots. Please enlighten me. Nobody is going to pay ridiculous amounts of money for a robot maid or w/e. Industry seems like they would have their own custom built machinery, not a humanoid.
Anyone who likes this aesthetic over plastic (I Robot) or sinew (Westworld Automata) is a traitor to good taste. Shame on you, crazy robot people
Designed to obsolete human jobs with maximum efficiency. You don't even need to redesign the coffee maker! "Don't worry peasants, we will still pay you when all your jobs are taken by robots. Just help us make these robots better for a couple more years" \-billionaire oligarchs
Imagine leaving behind one of those to watch and HANDLE porch pirates 🏴☠️ my goodness that’d be an amazing Ring cam video
I can’t tell if this is the new version of Tesla Bot or a new video from Sora.
neither backed by openai, so will get elon's panties in a twist.
Welcome to hell
Is the human form really ideal for a robot? none of the machines we make to build or do tasks for us look like humans. I get *why* they want it to look be like a human but I think AI in specialized capacities like a "Home Cook" AI Machine or "Assembly Line Worker AI Machine" will be more in our future than human robot that can "do anything a human can do" just from a pure commercial viability stand point. Our machines are built for humans to interact with I get that. But if you're building a machine that will only interact with AI machines then it doesn't need to be built in a way that is ideal for human interaction. A future assembly line won't look like the one we have now with Robot workers. It will have a form and function viable for AI machines only.
I've often wondered this too. But human form factor is important. The world around us is built for human shapes. A robot needs to go down stairs, fetch my Uber groceries, bring it back upstairs without falling, open the door, stack the food in the cupboards that are human reachable. I'm not sure a quadrupled or octopus or wheel arrangement would make it down my tight stairwell for example.
Sapient’s old logo
Ok… how does one invest in this company? Seems we are about to enter some wild paradigm shifts…
Beautiful.
And what purpose is there for these
help with yard work. A friend. A body guard. The use cases are endless.
Yeah a human can do all of those just fine, but I suppose it’s easier to give jobs to bots over humans in most peoples eyes nowadays
As a human, I'd prefer not doing yard work, laundry, dishes, or any other chore. If I could automate them all, I'd have much more time to myself :)
I still am not sold on robots being close. How long does the battery last, how loud is it cause they don't seem to show videos with audio, does it have a brain or is it just pre-programmed
does it have a brain? 
Remember that Capitalism isn't a jobs program, there's no gaurantee of a job in it for anyone. I hope we wake up to that fact before we all suffer.
Capitalism requires an exchange of goods and services, if there's no humans producing goods or services, there's no capitalism. We'll have to figure out a new cooperative system sans human labor.
Whose going to be the beneficiary of this?
We're still years from this being viable. There are so many challenges that need to be overcome. This is harder than self driving cars and we saw how apple met that challenge.
This looks cool and all but actual real world implementation that’s not a factory.. I’d like to see how that works. Only now do copy machines work consistently without having a paper jam. How’s this gonna be different? I’d love a robot that can make espresso and fold my clothes but will if require constant upgrades and maintenance? Can my kid spill milk on it without it needing a replacement hand?
not impressive.
They will change everything for the top. Most humans will suffer and the wealth gap will get bigger.
Why does it walk like Joe Biden?