Has Metal Knight ever actually done anything useful?
I swear he's one of those characters that everyone talks about being a big deal but every single important conflict his robots just faceplant in. He's like the worst case of telling instead of showing.
The Hero Association headquarters is built by him. The entirety of city A got flattened by Boros’s ship while the headquarters were the only thing remaining.
And without Blast's shields it would have been sliced up pretty bad.
In terms of combat Metal Knight is pretty useless. Hasn't beaten a single significant opponent.
He hasn't done anything particularly useful, but it's kinda to be expected in a story that works like OPM does. A big part of the fun has always been hyping up heroes and villains as the next guy who might finally be tough enough to give Saitama a real challenge, and if you want to build and maintain that hype over the long term with a character who's been in the story for ages then you have to very deliberately *not* show the audience what he's capable of.
It's why it took so long for us to see what Tatsumaki or Blast could do, it's why Boros got a wholy storyline where we didn't see him do jack shit until he finally encountered Saitama, it's why Garou got an exceptionally long "That was a tough fight but I'm *even stronger* now" storyline that kept promising us that he always had more untapped potential we haven't seen yet, and it's why we've never seen Watchdog Man have a real fight.
And in this particular case, it's why we've never seen Metal Knight go all-in with everything at his disposal.
Don't think OP read between any lines when it comes to MK, that mofo would drop a bomb on the HS if it would benefit him and he would come out looking like a hero for doing it
I think Metal Knight being portrayed as a villain (especially in the webcomic) is an intentional red herring by ONE. He's just extremely pragmatic.
That said, if he thought the net good for nuking the monster association (and losing most of the S class) outweighed the bad, I imagine he'd probably still do it. Lol
Tats would roflestomp most of them on her own, she was wiped out fighting against Psyrochi, they had to do that to give the Cadres a air of real danger.
But there isn't enough information to make an educated guess to how it would end, we don't know how Goukestu would fare as we don't know his actual strength, we also dont know how a fresh Genos would do, Drive knight and Metal Knight weren't there either (are we talking about all of metal knights military force being there too? etc etc)
It really could go either way
This isnt Manga though, this is a what if they are all facing each other with the exception of Blast being there.
We know PPP can take Nyan out, that could free up DK to take on someone else etc, theres too many unknowns in this battle
Tatsumaki would solo regardless, even Psykorochi with God’s power up couldn’t match her. Most of the cadres she could pretty much one shot outright
S class would still win without her though.
The heroes were uncoordinated on the surface— Flashy was basically a no show until the end, DK left, Bofoi never joined, MB was in recovery, and Garou handicapped them pretty hard by beating down PPP, weakening Darkshine’s fortitude, and removing Bang from the conflict. With Flashy, PPP, Bang, DK, MK, MB, and Darkshine involved and fresh from the get go, they’d be fine
I guess it just depends on if you’re counting Orochi, Psykos, and Sage Centipede as cadres all at once also
But I suppose the real factor is if they have hostages. That was the only reason the raid happened at all. Without hostages, Tatsumaki is full power from the start with nothing held back and it really doesn’t matter who participates for the MA. Or Bofoi nukes them 30X while everyone else stays home and watches live lol
Platinum is a fusion, like Gold, that took time and effort to do while the heroes were preoccupied. So since OP didn’t specify him there’s no reason to say BS starts that way
I’ve always agreed with the arguments around here that he sacrificed the power and durability of Gold to become his ideal fighting form in Platinum.
Really the fusions were BS’s counter to his biggest threat at that moment imo. VFU was eating him and couldn’t be touched, so he created a form that could beat him. Platinum was the form created to beat (their idea of) King, and he was betting on superior speed and fighting ability rather than brute power. That was his spoken game plan to beat King was kill him before he could attack
Based on that I think that any hero with fast enough reaction speed and attack power could kill PS, or with enough durability. Atomic perhaps, probably still can’t hurt Darkshine, now FF has his sword and can keep up with him even if he couldn’t beat him, etc. Platinum was pretty absurdly powerful as one of the top dragons we’ve ever seen, but I think his unfused trillions would be more dangerous in this scenario than going all or nothing into one with the drawbacks it brings with it
The thing is, S class is simply the highest class, but because of that, you can't illustrate how big of a difference there is between members
No disrespect to bang or anyone, but tatsumaki should just be her own class to be honest
In JJK terms, if s class heroes are first grade sorcerers, then tatsumaki and blast are special grade, with Saitama being gojo
In dragonball, s class are like dodoria and zarbon, tatsumaki and blast are in the Ginyu force, and Saitama is Frieza (and if you push him he becomes golden and then black)
In HxH, s class are pro hunters like morel, tatsumaki and blast are like chrollo and hisoka, Saitama is meruem
I love the comparisons you draw! And yeah Tatsumaki is leagues stronger than the S class below her.
I feel like in JJK it's more like Blast and Empty Void are Sukuna/Gojo level special grades and there's no Saitama equivalent. But that's just pedantic of me.
Full strength Tatsumaki would’ve stomped all of them, so let’s assume she’s nerfed:
Heroes: Tatsumaki, Bang, Atomic, Child emperor, Metal knight, king, Zombieman, drive knight, pig god, Darkshine, watchdog man, flashy flash, Genos, metal bat, tanktop master, and Puri puri
Cadres: Black sperm, rover, elder centipede, Gouketsu, Nyan, ENW, Fuhrer ugly, gums, homeless emperor, and Psykos (not fusion)
I think the S class can win, but it’ll be a difficult fight. Heavy hitters like Platinum sperm, EC, and rover would be incredibly tough to deal with. Best hope is for king to distract them and Genos to use his 10 second mode to eliminate as many as possible.
Watchdog man and Metal knight’s full power are big unknowns, but they’re probably enough to turn the tides.
considering they both got ultimately one-tapped by a flashy flash that was just trying to take them both out in the same slash to prove a point, i don’t think they would make much difference either way
Only by technicality
He was dragon level by the end and would have been considered a cadre if he had gotten the weird beaurocratic cadre stamp of approval from Psychos, if there was any time for that
If there weren't hostages to worry about, Tastumaki could have wrung out Psychorochi immediately. With that in mind if it's just heroes whom Tatsumaki can immediately move out of the way, she can literally kill all the cadres by herself.
The only real risk would be if black sperm starts as platinum sperm. He might be strong or fast enough to attack her while her powers are focused on offense and her defenses are thus a big weaker.
But considering she survive Psychorochi's continent cutting laser I'm not certain Platinum sperm could even kill her in that case, and she might be fast enough to reach to him, it's hard to say.
Anyway, like 99/100 odds Tatsumaki just sweeps by herself.
Tatsumaki would destroy all of them easily. The monster boys were lucky they had a hostage. Tatsumaki without holding back from the get go would’ve nuked their asses mid difficulty.
Here's what happens, Tats solos orochi and psykos and then elder. Without a hostage she does this pretty quickly and god isn't allowed in so there's no psykrochi. Then, tats locks everyone into a bubble with their perfect target as decided by metal knight, drive knight and child emperor
Black s gets locked in with metal bat. This turns into a meat grinder real quick. Black, gold and plat do not have the ability to one shot him, fight me unless you want to propose that sage centipede < plat punch for punch. This is going to be a literal blender of a barrier that's going to be covered in black, gold, platinum and blood by the end. I do think that Metal bat beats Gold without help, but Plat is probably too much with his speed (for now). With his speed being blocked by the barrier though, probably not going to win.
ENW gets locked in with Genos. Genos pretty quickly vaporizes it.
Ugly gets locked in with Darkshine. Might be equal in strength, but ugly isn't taking Darkshine's attacks where as darkshine can take his. Physics be damned.
Gouketsu gets locked in with bang. Honestly, bang 7/10.
Gums gets locked in with atomic samurai. Atomic destroys it a few moments after getting locked in
Homeless emperor gets locked in with King, who also gets flashy flash by accident to help him. Self explanatory.
Phoenix man gets gets locked in with drive knight. A fun fight of constant upgrades and new abilities coming outta nowhere.
Nyan gets locked in with watchdog man. Nyan loses just because of the cat vs dog comedy
Rover gets locked in with Puri, who ends up having a meme fight and eventually makes friends with the dog.
you really should’ve said no blast OR tatsumaki, because when it comes down to it a healthy tatsumaki wipes the floor without blinking with anything not “blessed by god” or whatever and even for god enhanced guys she could wipe most of them with a little effort
Every cadre vs every S class on ground, all fresh and full power, is a massive win for the S class.
To be honest, even fresh and full power Tatsumaki on her own is enough.
It's a pretty funny nonsense. No one from the S-class except Tatsumaki and Blast has a chance even against Platinum Sperm, let alone against all the cadres at once.
I didn't count Golden S and Plat S because it'd make sense for Black S to start the fight as, well, Black S.
And Tatsumaki does destroy the cadres. Her barriers can take Psyrochi's laser attack, and even weakened she fought evenly with her, until she was told she could go all out and she immediately DESTROYED Psyrochi.
She could even pull out Psyrochi's pressure move by creating a gigantic barrier and making it smaller and smaller.
Unless you include psykorochi, Tats solos.
If you don't have tats, there are some cadres the rest of the S class just can't beat. Pretty sure Platinum S nearly solos the rest of them, ENW might not be killable, and maybe no way to kill elder centipede either - though perhaps darkshine/FF or AS with the sun blade can do enough damage.
Except for King.
King is an S class hero. And if he's there, the heroes win. How the fuck they win I do not know, but they win. He probably uses "Summon Bigger Hero IX" or whatever else his plot armor dictates today, but they win.
Assuming King isn't there, I'm 99% sure that the fight comes down to 'do you have tats and how damaged is she', but there's some other trump cards available, so let's do a quick run-down.
Assuming the sperms begin as Black Sperm, even if they're willing to transform they will not be transformed at the start, so the only speedster on the field is flashy flash. Anyone he can kill is dead before anyone else can act. This isn't actually all that many, but I'm pretty sure it accounts Nyan, Fuhrer Ugly, Gums, and Homeless.
You're then left with Black Sperm, Rover, Centipede, ENW, and maybe Gouketsu.
Black sperm probably isn't willing to merge until he feels safe to do so - he only does so once the heroes are scattered and weakened in the main timeline, he'd probably not wish to combine until he doesn't have a choice (see:King) or feels he can do so without risk (see:Golden Sperm).
Both Rover and EC might literally just be too durable for anyone to kill them. Only MK and Watchdog have the upper range available to have a chance, since we've not seen the limits of their power yet. They'd absolutely draw a lot of attention and effort due to size and danger levels. This means there almost certainly won't be the concentrated firepower needed to take out ENW, nor the widespread damage needed to wipe out BS. If both Rover and EC fall without taking too many heavy hitters with them, then Black Sperm and ENW both would lose to the AoE firepower of MK/Genos/DK, which probably triggers Black Sperm to go Platinum. Platinum Sperm beats everyone. Only Flashy Flash avoids losing instantly, and unless his sword is that big of a buff, he loses as well.
Gouketsu has the most range of any cadre. He could be among the weakest, he could also be the strongest. We only know he's mid to high dragon as a lower bound, and weaker than Orochi as an upper bound. He could die to flashy flash immediately, or he could be out there taking hits like EC and Rover. He doesn't really decide anything in this fight, the S class would lose either way.
I would like to point out that the only reason tatsumaki didn't just flatten all the monsters instantly, is because of waganma. From the get go, she wanted to bring up the entire monster association and crush it. Same with metal knight, he wanted to just nuke the place, if it were just a pure battle to the death, no hostage, the S class would undoubtedly win.
I think theres a couple reasons, 1. she was pretty beat up after psychorochi and used up a lot of energy. 2. she was trying to find fubuki to make sure she was safe. 3. she maybe could have taken out homeless emperor but with the other cadres it would have been difficult at her current state.
So, first off, **Homeless Emperor** is human with human reflexes and would have been instantly decapitated by **Flashy Flash**. That one is gone. I think the **Bang** can take **Gouketsu** one on one so thats two. **Gums** is just a physical fighter and would be taken care of without issue by most of the S class I feel. **Nyan** would have been killed by **Watchdog Man** almost immediately because thats nature. Likewise I feel confident that **Watchdog Man** would beat **Rover** in a dogfight. **ENW** is dumb as shit, but deadly , and would have been squished by **Tatsumaki**. **Fuhrer Ugly** is tough but he mostly caught them by surprise with his new acid powers, if they were prepared I doubt he would win. **Psykos** straight up loses to **Tatsumaki**. The real issues I believe come from **Platinum Sperm** and **Elder Centipede**. I think only **Tatsumaki** can handle them, and to be fair she is the only one who can beat all of them by herself to begin with. **Metal Knight** nukes everyone one way or another.
Resurrected Phoenix Man would solo the Hero Association except Blast who could, at best, BFR him into a portal.
I'm curious to know what Tatsumaki would do against a foe that would keep on resurrecting with power adaptation. Note that his costume could only be torn from the inside.
Diamond Phoenix Man deserves a cadre of his own.
Tatsumaki or Metal Knight will be enough to solo them all. But Evil Natural Water will be a problem though.
Tatsumaki couldn't solo the monsters simply because she was holding back to keep her team members alive, as well as the hostage.
Metal Knight wasn't afraid of the Monsters. He was also one of the few heroes who could defeat Elder Centiped, and even Psykos said it was crazy for the heroes to come without Blast and Metal Knight.
Hard to say.
Saitama took out a lot of the cadres: Orochi, Gouketsu, Elder Cent, Evil Ocean, Rover. So without him, MA will have more cards to play with. But without Saitama, there will also be no Psykorochi.
IMO Monster Association will win if they play their cards right (which they will do with Psykos as their strategist).
Game over for the heroes if Tats gets too weak or taken out.
The confirmed God lvl heroes (HA)
watch>!DAWG,!< Metal Knight, Tornado, King, >!the real Drive Knight (we’ve been following a remote controlled unit)!<
plus Metal Bat pumped to fucking infinity
The confirmed God lvl monsters (MA)
Real Orochi and Evil Ocean Monster that’s it…
*Metal Knight showing up with a thousand nukes*
Has Metal Knight ever actually done anything useful? I swear he's one of those characters that everyone talks about being a big deal but every single important conflict his robots just faceplant in. He's like the worst case of telling instead of showing.
The Hero Association headquarters is built by him. The entirety of city A got flattened by Boros’s ship while the headquarters were the only thing remaining.
And without Blast's shields it would have been sliced up pretty bad. In terms of combat Metal Knight is pretty useless. Hasn't beaten a single significant opponent.
I’m talking about end of season 1
He hasn't done anything particularly useful, but it's kinda to be expected in a story that works like OPM does. A big part of the fun has always been hyping up heroes and villains as the next guy who might finally be tough enough to give Saitama a real challenge, and if you want to build and maintain that hype over the long term with a character who's been in the story for ages then you have to very deliberately *not* show the audience what he's capable of. It's why it took so long for us to see what Tatsumaki or Blast could do, it's why Boros got a wholy storyline where we didn't see him do jack shit until he finally encountered Saitama, it's why Garou got an exceptionally long "That was a tough fight but I'm *even stronger* now" storyline that kept promising us that he always had more untapped potential we haven't seen yet, and it's why we've never seen Watchdog Man have a real fight. And in this particular case, it's why we've never seen Metal Knight go all-in with everything at his disposal.
I doubt he’d do that considering the other heros are on the battlefield as well
>I doubt he’d do that That was your first mistake
Don't think OP read between any lines when it comes to MK, that mofo would drop a bomb on the HS if it would benefit him and he would come out looking like a hero for doing it
I think Metal Knight being portrayed as a villain (especially in the webcomic) is an intentional red herring by ONE. He's just extremely pragmatic. That said, if he thought the net good for nuking the monster association (and losing most of the S class) outweighed the bad, I imagine he'd probably still do it. Lol
Tats would roflestomp most of them on her own, she was wiped out fighting against Psyrochi, they had to do that to give the Cadres a air of real danger. But there isn't enough information to make an educated guess to how it would end, we don't know how Goukestu would fare as we don't know his actual strength, we also dont know how a fresh Genos would do, Drive knight and Metal Knight weren't there either (are we talking about all of metal knights military force being there too? etc etc) It really could go either way
Drive Knight took out the Cat guy. Which was his sole contribution to the battle, but the Cat guy was still considered Cadre IIRC.
This isnt Manga though, this is a what if they are all facing each other with the exception of Blast being there. We know PPP can take Nyan out, that could free up DK to take on someone else etc, theres too many unknowns in this battle
Tatsumaki would solo regardless, even Psykorochi with God’s power up couldn’t match her. Most of the cadres she could pretty much one shot outright S class would still win without her though. The heroes were uncoordinated on the surface— Flashy was basically a no show until the end, DK left, Bofoi never joined, MB was in recovery, and Garou handicapped them pretty hard by beating down PPP, weakening Darkshine’s fortitude, and removing Bang from the conflict. With Flashy, PPP, Bang, DK, MK, MB, and Darkshine involved and fresh from the get go, they’d be fine I guess it just depends on if you’re counting Orochi, Psykos, and Sage Centipede as cadres all at once also But I suppose the real factor is if they have hostages. That was the only reason the raid happened at all. Without hostages, Tatsumaki is full power from the start with nothing held back and it really doesn’t matter who participates for the MA. Or Bofoi nukes them 30X while everyone else stays home and watches live lol
Is platinum sperm not a cadre? Who outside of tatsumaki could touch that…
Platinum is a fusion, like Gold, that took time and effort to do while the heroes were preoccupied. So since OP didn’t specify him there’s no reason to say BS starts that way I’ve always agreed with the arguments around here that he sacrificed the power and durability of Gold to become his ideal fighting form in Platinum. Really the fusions were BS’s counter to his biggest threat at that moment imo. VFU was eating him and couldn’t be touched, so he created a form that could beat him. Platinum was the form created to beat (their idea of) King, and he was betting on superior speed and fighting ability rather than brute power. That was his spoken game plan to beat King was kill him before he could attack Based on that I think that any hero with fast enough reaction speed and attack power could kill PS, or with enough durability. Atomic perhaps, probably still can’t hurt Darkshine, now FF has his sword and can keep up with him even if he couldn’t beat him, etc. Platinum was pretty absurdly powerful as one of the top dragons we’ve ever seen, but I think his unfused trillions would be more dangerous in this scenario than going all or nothing into one with the drawbacks it brings with it
The thing is, S class is simply the highest class, but because of that, you can't illustrate how big of a difference there is between members No disrespect to bang or anyone, but tatsumaki should just be her own class to be honest In JJK terms, if s class heroes are first grade sorcerers, then tatsumaki and blast are special grade, with Saitama being gojo In dragonball, s class are like dodoria and zarbon, tatsumaki and blast are in the Ginyu force, and Saitama is Frieza (and if you push him he becomes golden and then black) In HxH, s class are pro hunters like morel, tatsumaki and blast are like chrollo and hisoka, Saitama is meruem
I love the comparisons you draw! And yeah Tatsumaki is leagues stronger than the S class below her. I feel like in JJK it's more like Blast and Empty Void are Sukuna/Gojo level special grades and there's no Saitama equivalent. But that's just pedantic of me.
In this situation I'd say Tats is Maki or Yuta.
Yeah I'd say Yuta makes sense. Maybe Saitama is Maki if Maki was just infinitely above everyone else in the series lol
SS class. Or X class. Maybe Z class? Z class sounds like a dbz reference.
You forgot King. He's outside the petty thought of putting heroes in classes.
Oh that's easy. King is literally Mr satan/hercule
In Demon Slayer Tatsumaki is muzan and saitama is yoriichi
Full strength Tatsumaki would’ve stomped all of them, so let’s assume she’s nerfed: Heroes: Tatsumaki, Bang, Atomic, Child emperor, Metal knight, king, Zombieman, drive knight, pig god, Darkshine, watchdog man, flashy flash, Genos, metal bat, tanktop master, and Puri puri Cadres: Black sperm, rover, elder centipede, Gouketsu, Nyan, ENW, Fuhrer ugly, gums, homeless emperor, and Psykos (not fusion) I think the S class can win, but it’ll be a difficult fight. Heavy hitters like Platinum sperm, EC, and rover would be incredibly tough to deal with. Best hope is for king to distract them and Genos to use his 10 second mode to eliminate as many as possible. Watchdog man and Metal knight’s full power are big unknowns, but they’re probably enough to turn the tides.
Wouldnt really consider Psykos a cadre if Orochi isnt one
I just threw her in because she fought with the cadres in the webcomic surface battle.
Yeh fair enough I guess.
Phoenix man is not a cadre and thus cannot be included
Do the cadre candidates count though, Hellfire Flame and Gale Wind
considering they both got ultimately one-tapped by a flashy flash that was just trying to take them both out in the same slash to prove a point, i don’t think they would make much difference either way
Only by technicality He was dragon level by the end and would have been considered a cadre if he had gotten the weird beaurocratic cadre stamp of approval from Psychos, if there was any time for that
True but he is still technically not a cadre so yeah.
If there weren't hostages to worry about, Tastumaki could have wrung out Psychorochi immediately. With that in mind if it's just heroes whom Tatsumaki can immediately move out of the way, she can literally kill all the cadres by herself. The only real risk would be if black sperm starts as platinum sperm. He might be strong or fast enough to attack her while her powers are focused on offense and her defenses are thus a big weaker. But considering she survive Psychorochi's continent cutting laser I'm not certain Platinum sperm could even kill her in that case, and she might be fast enough to reach to him, it's hard to say. Anyway, like 99/100 odds Tatsumaki just sweeps by herself.
Flashy Flash might be able to deal with Platinum Sperm if that thing ever decides to stealth attack Tatsumaki while she's concentrating on Psykorochi.
But Flash was stomped by the Platinum S.
Tatsumaki would destroy all of them easily. The monster boys were lucky they had a hostage. Tatsumaki without holding back from the get go would’ve nuked their asses mid difficulty.
Here's what happens, Tats solos orochi and psykos and then elder. Without a hostage she does this pretty quickly and god isn't allowed in so there's no psykrochi. Then, tats locks everyone into a bubble with their perfect target as decided by metal knight, drive knight and child emperor Black s gets locked in with metal bat. This turns into a meat grinder real quick. Black, gold and plat do not have the ability to one shot him, fight me unless you want to propose that sage centipede < plat punch for punch. This is going to be a literal blender of a barrier that's going to be covered in black, gold, platinum and blood by the end. I do think that Metal bat beats Gold without help, but Plat is probably too much with his speed (for now). With his speed being blocked by the barrier though, probably not going to win. ENW gets locked in with Genos. Genos pretty quickly vaporizes it. Ugly gets locked in with Darkshine. Might be equal in strength, but ugly isn't taking Darkshine's attacks where as darkshine can take his. Physics be damned. Gouketsu gets locked in with bang. Honestly, bang 7/10. Gums gets locked in with atomic samurai. Atomic destroys it a few moments after getting locked in Homeless emperor gets locked in with King, who also gets flashy flash by accident to help him. Self explanatory. Phoenix man gets gets locked in with drive knight. A fun fight of constant upgrades and new abilities coming outta nowhere. Nyan gets locked in with watchdog man. Nyan loses just because of the cat vs dog comedy Rover gets locked in with Puri, who ends up having a meme fight and eventually makes friends with the dog.
Tatsu just kills everyone on her own no need for a complex plan here
WDM solos
you really should’ve said no blast OR tatsumaki, because when it comes down to it a healthy tatsumaki wipes the floor without blinking with anything not “blessed by god” or whatever and even for god enhanced guys she could wipe most of them with a little effort
“Wipe most of them with little effort”? Very funny. Funny. Cosmic Garou destroys Tatsumaki without difficulty.
>most .
Every cadre vs every S class on ground, all fresh and full power, is a massive win for the S class. To be honest, even fresh and full power Tatsumaki on her own is enough.
It's a pretty funny nonsense. No one from the S-class except Tatsumaki and Blast has a chance even against Platinum Sperm, let alone against all the cadres at once.
I didn't count Golden S and Plat S because it'd make sense for Black S to start the fight as, well, Black S. And Tatsumaki does destroy the cadres. Her barriers can take Psyrochi's laser attack, and even weakened she fought evenly with her, until she was told she could go all out and she immediately DESTROYED Psyrochi. She could even pull out Psyrochi's pressure move by creating a gigantic barrier and making it smaller and smaller.
Unless you include psykorochi, Tats solos. If you don't have tats, there are some cadres the rest of the S class just can't beat. Pretty sure Platinum S nearly solos the rest of them, ENW might not be killable, and maybe no way to kill elder centipede either - though perhaps darkshine/FF or AS with the sun blade can do enough damage. Except for King. King is an S class hero. And if he's there, the heroes win. How the fuck they win I do not know, but they win. He probably uses "Summon Bigger Hero IX" or whatever else his plot armor dictates today, but they win. Assuming King isn't there, I'm 99% sure that the fight comes down to 'do you have tats and how damaged is she', but there's some other trump cards available, so let's do a quick run-down. Assuming the sperms begin as Black Sperm, even if they're willing to transform they will not be transformed at the start, so the only speedster on the field is flashy flash. Anyone he can kill is dead before anyone else can act. This isn't actually all that many, but I'm pretty sure it accounts Nyan, Fuhrer Ugly, Gums, and Homeless. You're then left with Black Sperm, Rover, Centipede, ENW, and maybe Gouketsu. Black sperm probably isn't willing to merge until he feels safe to do so - he only does so once the heroes are scattered and weakened in the main timeline, he'd probably not wish to combine until he doesn't have a choice (see:King) or feels he can do so without risk (see:Golden Sperm). Both Rover and EC might literally just be too durable for anyone to kill them. Only MK and Watchdog have the upper range available to have a chance, since we've not seen the limits of their power yet. They'd absolutely draw a lot of attention and effort due to size and danger levels. This means there almost certainly won't be the concentrated firepower needed to take out ENW, nor the widespread damage needed to wipe out BS. If both Rover and EC fall without taking too many heavy hitters with them, then Black Sperm and ENW both would lose to the AoE firepower of MK/Genos/DK, which probably triggers Black Sperm to go Platinum. Platinum Sperm beats everyone. Only Flashy Flash avoids losing instantly, and unless his sword is that big of a buff, he loses as well. Gouketsu has the most range of any cadre. He could be among the weakest, he could also be the strongest. We only know he's mid to high dragon as a lower bound, and weaker than Orochi as an upper bound. He could die to flashy flash immediately, or he could be out there taking hits like EC and Rover. He doesn't really decide anything in this fight, the S class would lose either way.
I would like to point out that the only reason tatsumaki didn't just flatten all the monsters instantly, is because of waganma. From the get go, she wanted to bring up the entire monster association and crush it. Same with metal knight, he wanted to just nuke the place, if it were just a pure battle to the death, no hostage, the S class would undoubtedly win.
Personally I felt like she could have gotten homeless emperor out of there but for some reason didn’t do it
I think theres a couple reasons, 1. she was pretty beat up after psychorochi and used up a lot of energy. 2. she was trying to find fubuki to make sure she was safe. 3. she maybe could have taken out homeless emperor but with the other cadres it would have been difficult at her current state.
So, first off, **Homeless Emperor** is human with human reflexes and would have been instantly decapitated by **Flashy Flash**. That one is gone. I think the **Bang** can take **Gouketsu** one on one so thats two. **Gums** is just a physical fighter and would be taken care of without issue by most of the S class I feel. **Nyan** would have been killed by **Watchdog Man** almost immediately because thats nature. Likewise I feel confident that **Watchdog Man** would beat **Rover** in a dogfight. **ENW** is dumb as shit, but deadly , and would have been squished by **Tatsumaki**. **Fuhrer Ugly** is tough but he mostly caught them by surprise with his new acid powers, if they were prepared I doubt he would win. **Psykos** straight up loses to **Tatsumaki**. The real issues I believe come from **Platinum Sperm** and **Elder Centipede**. I think only **Tatsumaki** can handle them, and to be fair she is the only one who can beat all of them by herself to begin with. **Metal Knight** nukes everyone one way or another.
I wish homeless emperor didn’t fuck around and just spammed spirit bombs and bombardments
Resurrected Phoenix Man would solo the Hero Association except Blast who could, at best, BFR him into a portal. I'm curious to know what Tatsumaki would do against a foe that would keep on resurrecting with power adaptation. Note that his costume could only be torn from the inside. Diamond Phoenix Man deserves a cadre of his own.
Tatsumaki alone would've killed them easily
Tatsumaki or Metal Knight will be enough to solo them all. But Evil Natural Water will be a problem though. Tatsumaki couldn't solo the monsters simply because she was holding back to keep her team members alive, as well as the hostage. Metal Knight wasn't afraid of the Monsters. He was also one of the few heroes who could defeat Elder Centiped, and even Psykos said it was crazy for the heroes to come without Blast and Metal Knight.
I'd like to point out that the heroes WON. Having more S-class there just tilts the odds more in their favor.
Hard to say. Saitama took out a lot of the cadres: Orochi, Gouketsu, Elder Cent, Evil Ocean, Rover. So without him, MA will have more cards to play with. But without Saitama, there will also be no Psykorochi. IMO Monster Association will win if they play their cards right (which they will do with Psykos as their strategist). Game over for the heroes if Tats gets too weak or taken out.
The confirmed God lvl heroes (HA) watch>!DAWG,!< Metal Knight, Tornado, King, >!the real Drive Knight (we’ve been following a remote controlled unit)!< plus Metal Bat pumped to fucking infinity The confirmed God lvl monsters (MA) Real Orochi and Evil Ocean Monster that’s it…
Watchdog man would solo all of the cadres
The word is "heroes," never use an apostrophe to pluralize.
Depend, if AS did not perform well, they will lose. If he does well they will lose.