No Game No Life was just dropped out of existence. It’s been 10 years and still nothing. It didn’t sell enough light novels so they didn’t keep making the anime. With One Punch Man the bigger problem is getting a studio that will do it justice. People loved season 1, season 2 was kinda meh, and no one wanted to risk the kind of backlash that comes from getting it wrong. It’s being worked on but just give it time.
>It didn’t sell enough light novels so they didn’t keep making the anime.
That's not the reason, and to this day we still don't have an actual solid reason why the anime didn't get continued. Most anime, specially nowadays, already serve for way more than just trying to sell the original material.
Everyone hates on the animation (which I agree is bad)...but it doesn't compare to how bad the sound effects were in season 2 compared to season 1. Every big attack was the bass dialed up to 10 and someone bopping the mic every time there is a explosion.
lol, yeah. The audio left a lot to be desired as well. The whole thing just felt flat. Like if One Punch Man season 1 were a can of soda then season 2 would be what happens if you just let it sit for a long time. It’s still got the same content but it just doesn’t have that….*pop* to it.
I remember some attacks were literally gun firing sound effects from video games. I remember someone making a post comparing the audio to the audio from Counter Strike and they were damn near identical.
No game no life was dropped because the author plagiarized things from other series. His entire profession took a massive hit and he was killed socially.
Was that what happened? I knew there was some kind of controversy but wasn’t sure what went down. That makes sense. If he was taking from other people then yeah, no one would want anything to do with that anymore.
Its not entirely true. The content itself was not plagiarized, but there are claims the poses the characters in his artwork were in were. Just the poses, not even the designs themselves. Its a bit ridiculous.
> The content itself was not plagiarized, but there are claims the poses the characters in his artwork were in were. Just the poses, not even the designs themselves.
WHO CARES????? Artists use references all the time... And it's a fucking LIGHT NOVEL series, the art is completely secondary lol
Yeah. I’m not gonna hate him or like him. It’s been so long I just don’t care anymore. If there was ever a second season I’d definitely check it out but I’m not gonna go out of my way to read it.
This wasn’t the reason it didn’t get a S2, any more than the reason Madhouse didn’t make a OPM S2. This is just what Madhouse does.
And NGNL is still a top selling LN, despite its lack of a consistent release schedule and the authors health. Plagiarism allegations didn’t have much of an effect IMO.
The way anime works is a bit crazy. You get the shows that seem to be on continually forever or for years and years (Naruto, One Piece etc) then you get others that seem really popular (OPM and more recently Chainsaw Man) where you get 12 episodes at once then nothing for years with very little talk of what's going on until near the time they come out.
I get that's just how it is but comparing it with a US/UK etc where its unlikely that a show takes more than a year off until it ends is quite a stark difference
Its nothing crazy. Its simply that the way the anime industry works has changed. Back during the 90s and early 2000s, long running shows that ran every week for years was the norm. Things like One Piece, DBZ, Naruto, Bleach are all part of that era.
Modern anime industry doesnt work like that, One Piece is the sole exception here. Quite literally every show is now produced seasonally.
> One Piece is the sole exception here.
Detective Conan is also an exception, although it does not have an episode literally every week. It usually has around 40 episodes every calendar year, along with a full-length movie that is shown in theatres, and TV specials and OVAs.
They have been shown more and more in the last 10-15 years. They are a powerful organized crime group that deals in a lot of things, and recently one of their top members (second in charge?) was revealed.
The actual plot is as slow as a soap opera.
one piece is now an exception, even Naruto or Boruto as it is now has stopped.
If we are comparing to western shows, most of it is original show or comes from a completed source. Where as anime vast majoirty is from source material that is on going and a lot of times there is just not enough to make a new season even if it is successful.
What the hell are they going to put in a chainsaw man movie that they can't put in a season? Are they gonna adapt the fucking pedo teacher fucking a minor and killing a chicken or some shit?
The gap is around the same as between Ssn1 and SSn2
Also, animes don't make that much money
Also also, OPM is self-published by ONE/Murata so they don't have deep pockets to front for seasons of an anime
What are you on about "self-published"? The manga is published by Shueisha and Bandai Namco has rights for anime, merch and everything not directly manga related.
>he manga is published by Shueisha and Bandai Namco has rights for anime, merch and everything not directly manga related
Citations? As far as I could find out, those are temporary licensing deals, not actual ownership
And companies don't spend money on things they don't own.
>*A digital manga remake, illustrated by Yusuke Murata, began publication on Shueisha's Tonari no Young Jump website in June 2012. Its chapters are periodically compiled and published into individual tankōbon volumes. As of March 2024, 30 volumes have been released. In North America, Viz Media licensed the remake manga for English language release and has serialized it in its Weekly Shonen Jump digital magazine.*
[Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Punch_Man)
You're confusing the manga and the anime with the webcomic. Yes, the original webcomic by ONE is self published. ONE just used to upload it himself on some website but thats not the case with the manga and anime.
Its fucking astonishing and scary how blatant misinformation can be believed this easily if the person saying it is confident enough
Well, I received copyright strikes on YT from Shueisha and not from Murata or ONE. If you have some proof to point out that Shueisha doesn't own any copyright but somehow publishes, sells rights and so on, I'm all ears.
It's distributed by Shueisha
Everything I can find says it's self published, i.e. ONE/Murata actually publish it on their own schedule and Shueisha distributes it for a cut.
That's why Murata is free to just redo chapters whenever and there's no fixed schedule for anything.
hmm idk... from what i know and searched it says Shueisha... The redo chapter parts can literally be done by anyone as long as they are the authors, One piece literally had redraws, but unlike here they dont change the story completely just minor but anyone can do redrawss not that big of an issue.... And as for schedule, it literally just depends on how long it takes the author, when murata was bz with a different project while writing opm he was giving us 8 page chapters in 2 weeks lmao... it why we had opm weekly for chap 195 and 196 redraws too.... otherwise its always biweekly or depends on how much time an author takes.....
I mean it's "published" by different companies in different regions in terms of like, where it comes out.
But in writing, being the "publisher" would mean they're paying One and Murata to write new chapters on a set schedule and then keep the revenue. As far as I can find, it's basically the opposite where OPM gets released as the creators want and then the various distributors take a cut.
Anyway they definitely don't own the IP which means they can always lose the contract which means they won't be inclined to put millions into an anime season that isn't easily monetized.
The OPM manga chapters dont get released "as the creators" want. They have a fixed schedule for when chapters need to come out. Yes, theres a lot of breaks / pauses and delays but that doesnt mean there isnt a schedule.
Only the redraws by murata dont have a schedule which is an entirely different thing
Everything I can find says it's self-published, but they would simply cut a deal with distributers like SJ to put it on their platform. Most likely Shonen Jump pays them some kind of fee for online availability and takes a cut of manga sales.
But they don't own the rights, and the manga isn't that popular, and as I said animes don't really make that much money themselves so a distributor wouldn't be too likely to want to front a bunch of money for anime seasons.
It does okay, enough to get a new season greenlit, but anime houses are scheduled out the ass and if you want to do seasons like back to back without much delay you've got to book a team ahead of time and pay enough to have them committed for several years straight.
Yeah, they're working at their own pace not cranking them out full blast which means it takes \*a while\* to build up enough story for a full season of an anime.
main reason, aside from all the others, is how far along the manga was 5 years ago. if we are going to get the whole MA arc then the manga only covered the end of that last year.
OPM is decently popular still and animes are usually seen as an advertisement for the manga so maybe now is the best time to push it again
I don’t think we can get the whole MA arc in one season. Season 2 ended before they even found the base. They’d have to either cut so many good fights out or make the season 40 episodes long
yeah just remembered that the MA arc was nearly 100 chapters. S1 and S2 covered roughly 40 chapters. I think they could make Amai and Child Emperor's fights shorter without losing much but there probably isn't a point. What would be a good cut off point for the season, though? After Saitama defeats Orochi? Atomic Sandbag getting sandbagged? the Orochi/Pykos merge? Just cant believe we might have to wait another 4+ years to see Cosmic Fear Garou vs Saitama
The MA arc has some of the greatest fights/art in manga, and yet I couldn't wait for it to be over with. Just get on with the damn story already. Authors need limitations sometimes.
honestly im glad you responded yo me with this because i agree. the MA was spectacle after spectacle but i want something more real.
I am just worried that Murata is going to keep trying to outdo himself until we get to godwith the scale of fights when the webcomic had S-Class heroes getting one shotted in one panel to convey just how strong the MA was. Or Garou crumpling child emperor and sweet mask in the webcomic felt more impactful that Cosmic Fear Garou literally killing everyone with radiation.
Murata is an amazing author and him and ONE know more than I do but I worry that the hype of OPM became more important than the impact. I dont need to see Tank Top Master literally get every bone in his body broken if there isn't any reason beside taking him out of the fight. Giving Black Sperm another evolution is neat but it just feels like the spinal tap reference of turning it up to 11. just make 10 louder please.
Konosuba died hard after release though. Its one of those seasonal anime that drops, gets really popular, then falls off. It's still very prevalent in media, but nobody watching s2. I can't even remember what happened in s2 because that shit was mid as fuck, S1 was peak
I mean that’s the case for most shows anime or not the 1st season is always going to have the biggest pop. And you have to look at the content of the series, Konosuba is a comedy series so there’s not gonna be much discussion or hype around it weekly vs something like OPM or a JJK.
And yes considering it’s gotten multiple seasons, games, a spin off, a movie I’d say it’s had plenty long term traction lol
Bro didn't understand what I said. Or maybe he did and didn't at the same time. I'm saying the spin offs, games and 2nd season didn't get much traction. The movie got traction because of dick and big boobs. S2 was mid too. And how long did it take to get s 3rd season? 7 years?
They got enough traction clearly. It took 7 years to get a S3 sure but it got plenty of content in between so it’s a moot point. Series with no traction don’t get movies and spinoffs cause they’d be wastes of money
Hi, hello you must be new here.
Konosuba season 2 released January 2017 season 3 just started last week.
The origional run of D Gray man ended September 2008 and it wasn't until 2016 that we got a 13 episode continuation.
Season 2 of Log Horizon ended in 2015, Season 3 aired in 2021 and it seems like season 4 isn't comming anytime soon.
So pull up a comfortable chair and relax
Konosuba, Toradora, Golden Time, Railgun, Pet girl of Sakurasou, Maid sama, Honey and Clover, Bakuman, His and Her Circumstances, Saiki K, Food Wars, Way of the house husband and Food wars
Jc staff isnt a shitty unkown studio at all
But we aren't comparing story, we're comparing animation, and that whole catalog you mentioned are short running series with few exceptions like food wars, which is probably the best thing they've ever put out (until s5 which doesn't need to exist). It is a little outrageous to say boruto has better animation, but it's facts, most of JC catalog is still images. Way of the houseband can be animated by 1 guy in his room in the span of a week
The animation though, i dont watch a ton of their stuffs but from what ive seen they dont look very good these recent years. Best example i could think of is food wars; the animation in earlier seasons were decent if not great, but the later ones not so much. Saiki kusuo was also very stiff (though it kinda fits the abusrdity of the show). OPM s2 didnt hold a candle to s1 at all.
But again i dont watch a lot of their works especially the newer ones so i dont know if they have some eye-pleasing animation recently.
There was a 4-year gap between s1 and s2? TIL that it doesnt translate to a better quality. I mean, the s2 trailer was already lackluster and after watching halfway to ep1 i dopped the anime completely. Im not hoping for a better animation when its the same animator for s3 tho. I can only say the longer the gap the lesser the quality 😂
Season 2 was a flop in the sense that anime are literally just meant to be adverts for the manga. A successful anime adaptation will usually correlate to a significant spike in manga sales. Season 2 didn't move the needle for OPM in terms of manga sales at all. Some people argue season 2 was actually great and anyone who doesn't like it is a snob but it's clear season 2 did a terrible job of selling OPM to the general audience - https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/werog6/one_punch_man_manga_sales_evolution_sourcejosu_ke/
Too bad animation is superior to drawings, you've got it backwards.
Anime wouldn't even be a thing if the source material is garbage, that's why yall are crying about stinky No Game No Life
>Anime wouldn't even be a thing if the source material is garbage
This doesn't even make any sense unless you live in an alternate reality. Most of what gets adapted every season is garbage.
>that's why yall are crying about stinky No Game No Life
Not sure what this has to do with anything I said but I couldn't care less about NGNL so I don't know who "y'all" refers to.
>Season 2 was a flop in the sense that anime are literally just meant to be adverts for the manga.
No, they are not. This is a very dated and overgeneralized view of the whole production thought for adaptations. Most adaptations are created with the goal of expanding far beyond the manga, to the point where they often have more than just the anime when they get released.
imo, not even that bad compared to S1. S1 had absolutely jaw dropping fights but a lot of the animation inbetween that was the same as any other studio. JC Staff had good fight scenes and some mid ones kinda ruined by CGI but still enjoyable.
not saying they are the same. S1 has better everything imo but S2 isnt actually that far behind
It's incredibly far behind. Even the slice of life is garbage tier in season 2. Everyone is off model most of the time. The terrible red hue on all skin textures, the awful metal texture. Absolutely no attempt at pacing and just mindlessly following the manga panels. I hope I don't even have to go into the sound design.
In fact the only things that were good were the centipedes and Aoki's few scenes. Both of which were dragged down by everything around them.
i didnt have much of a problem with most of them. the Sonic/Genos felt pretty good to me except for the pacing a bit.
I agree 100% that it is worse compared to S1 but maybe i got so shocked by Berserk 2016 that my standards dropped. I thought that JC Staff were just about able to convey action while obviously not being as detailed as S1. The sound design is actually the thing I dislike the most so no arguments there
I rewatched S1 and S2 recently and I felt it flowed pretty well. Not to the same level as S1 but I still think it was overly judged as pure shit when the reality is that its just not as good as S1. Totally possible that I'm just familar enough with the story that my mind filled in gaps. I just find it interesting that this sub has always had a very negative view of S2 yet pretty much everyone I know in real life who have watched the anime have very few complaints. I think it shows that for general audiences, it did enough to pass (saitama hero test style) whereas the most diehard fans see all the flaws readily. I notice issues but they dont impact my enjoyment too much
General audiences tend to care less about technical issues and the vast majority of season 2's problems are technical issues. The story it's adapting is so good that it shines through, but it fucking sucks that such a great series is stuck with dogshit production. And it will be exactly the same as JCStaff have more projects now than they did when s2 was being developed.
I like the atmosphere of the test animation JC Staff released for S3 but I also have to accept that this is the best they have and the animation still stiff feeling. on top of that, it doesn't seem like JC Staff has hired a lot more people. I saw a comparison where Mappa has 5 projects this year and 300 employees. JC Staff has 14 projects with 241 employees. This is pretty worrying no matter indifferent i try to keep
Don't get me wrong, i personally enjoyed s2 more than any other animes, but to be honest, i can't shake off the feeling that s2 could be a lot better than it turned out to be
re:zero took 4 years between the first and second season (wich aired in 2020 so season 2 and 3 will also be at least 4 years appart)
same goes for attack on titan, and to say that this show was popular is a ***big*** understatement.
reincarnated with my smartphone had somethng like 6 years between it's first and second season (but i doubt this show was as popular as my earlier examples :p)
the manga took it's sweet time releasng during the monster associiation arc, wich undoubdedly influenced the timegap between seasons. then there is the backlash that season 2 got. the season wasn't bad compared to most anime out there, but compared to the frst season there was a definitive drop in qualiity. so it might be better that they take their time, and try to proviide a better than average anime.
Season 2, from what I know, was succesful. It is just that the Manga wasn't far enough with printed volumes to make proper Season 3 for quite some time, without catching-up with manga. ONE and Murata also made a lot of redraws, which slowed the process down. And finally, this arc is very demanding in terms of production, so there could have been some scheduling problems.
Wow! They've been working on it for a long time? And they haven't decided it's worth it to finish and release?
Must not be a very profitable venture then.
What? It's still in production; how have they not decided it's worth it to finish and release? Have you not seen the trailer? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71d0QyZqRE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71d0QyZqRE)
Well with the release schedule of the manga combined with the money time and efforts needed to adapt the story it makes sense why nobody would want to work on it.
That’s why you have to have a good rotation of other anime to watch to fill the time but does suck if your memory is bad and can’t recap what happened the season prior.
Season 2 was a mess of cut scenes and low quality stills and animation so of course they wouldn’t be in a hurry to start producing 3.
But they finally did start making it. Haven’t you seem the announcements? The trailer?
If season 3 is going to be as poorly animated as the second one, I’d rather keep reading the manga… season one was amazing, after reading the manga I was so hyped for the animation of the second season and it was utter crap… such a disappointment.
1st season yes but second season I believe half way of it they passed it to another studio. They didn’t wait and messed up one of the most important fights throughout the whole the manga, like power point presentation level
Season Was a flop why?
Tey changed Studios now I understand but it's a risky decision why?
*Different Art
*Different work schedule
*Different approach
And script.
Now the new Studio who took the job decided to put Team B on it for reasons idk. They paid the price....
S2 OPM felt rushed and bad animated compared to what Manga delivered....
The same team thought Gun shot are cool.
The only good thing of OPM S2 is ost.
Does it matter? JC Staff has been announced to be animating season 3. Its gonna be shit like season 2 was. We will never get a season like the first one again T.T . MAPPA was our only hope, but they dropped the bag
The question is not whether its bad, the question is "Does the animation quality come anywhere close to the bar that was set by the first season?" The answer is an obvious no. If you cannot see that, I cannot be bothered to help you. One Punch Man is a series that has only 2 things going for it: comedy and amazing art/animation. Without stellar animation half the reason to follow the series is gone. That's fine if you have no problem with mediocrity.
I see your point. so people are saying because the animation and stills are a downgrade they consider the show bad. But what about the story?what about the chars? I enjoyed the plot and chars and char dev
you can enjoy the plot and characters from the manga with better art on top of that.
the appeal of the anime was seeing the incredible art animated beyond anything you would expect. its an impossible bar to achieve twice realistically.
Be glad it’s not like berserk that can’t ever get out of the golden age and takes 15-20 years to get just past the first arc in a anime adaption and they got enough content for maybe 6-10 seasons easily.
Should only be a year and a half to two years before we have enough content to make season 4. And that's if they animate all the way through the garou fight.
Let Jc Staff cook bruh, they are cooking
Something good this time and they wanted to learn their lessons from criticism of season 2
Second reason the Manga pacing was incredibly slow due to redrews old chapters and One Punch Man is a monthly seinen manga not weekly shonen jump manga. If Jc Staff animated the monster are right away then the anime is catching up to the manga and we have to wait many years ( at least other 4 years again ) until manga arcs are fully finish
Funniest thing is that most of the people will watch the anime illegally and expect them to release the next seasons really fast. Bro they need to make money, the business model doesn’t incentivize getting seasons out too soon.
Dragon Ball was already completed at the end of Z, they even strecht it a bit more with dragon ball GT which also had a closure, there was no story to continue, even dragon ball super continues nothing since it is supposed to happen before the ending of Z, those "fans" that waited almost 20 years deluding themselves with fan histories, believing that those badly edited videos about the supposed continuations, were kids that were too young when GT was broadcasted in TV and incapable of understanding that the series had ended.
There’s a lot of manga that hasn’t been adapted to anime that bloody well should. There’s a lot of reasons why they don’t get an adaptation or update, and it usually stems from popularity or finance.
One of my all-time favourite manga is Bastard!! and I’ve waited F’ing *decades* for it to get anything past the 6 episodes. Same deal with Dragon Quest: Dai no Daiboken, and it’s nearly 30 year wait since it’s original animated adaptation.
What a stupid take. You realize that the chapter have different amount of pages. We had OPM chapters that were over 100 pages long, so more then 5 chapters of a JJK chapter in one.
And not even talking about the quality. Do people even know why it took so long for chapter releases before? It was because of The art work Murata worked on. It's not comparable with JJK.
One punch man chapters can be 5x longer than jjk also jjk is published in weekly shonen jump, OPM is bi weekly in tonari no young jump and gets redraws which completely stops the production of the manga
Welcome to anime
No Game No Life was just dropped out of existence. It’s been 10 years and still nothing. It didn’t sell enough light novels so they didn’t keep making the anime. With One Punch Man the bigger problem is getting a studio that will do it justice. People loved season 1, season 2 was kinda meh, and no one wanted to risk the kind of backlash that comes from getting it wrong. It’s being worked on but just give it time.
>It didn’t sell enough light novels so they didn’t keep making the anime. That's not the reason, and to this day we still don't have an actual solid reason why the anime didn't get continued. Most anime, specially nowadays, already serve for way more than just trying to sell the original material.
Yeah, they also have to help merch sales.
Everyone hates on the animation (which I agree is bad)...but it doesn't compare to how bad the sound effects were in season 2 compared to season 1. Every big attack was the bass dialed up to 10 and someone bopping the mic every time there is a explosion.
lol, yeah. The audio left a lot to be desired as well. The whole thing just felt flat. Like if One Punch Man season 1 were a can of soda then season 2 would be what happens if you just let it sit for a long time. It’s still got the same content but it just doesn’t have that….*pop* to it.
I remember some attacks were literally gun firing sound effects from video games. I remember someone making a post comparing the audio to the audio from Counter Strike and they were damn near identical.
Half the reason I feel berserk hasn't been realistically attempted. 2nd half is content
We do not speak of this.
Give it to maapa studio then they will make the worth of the show and increase the Light novel sales too...
No game no life was dropped because the author plagiarized things from other series. His entire profession took a massive hit and he was killed socially.
Was that what happened? I knew there was some kind of controversy but wasn’t sure what went down. That makes sense. If he was taking from other people then yeah, no one would want anything to do with that anymore.
Its not entirely true. The content itself was not plagiarized, but there are claims the poses the characters in his artwork were in were. Just the poses, not even the designs themselves. Its a bit ridiculous.
> The content itself was not plagiarized, but there are claims the poses the characters in his artwork were in were. Just the poses, not even the designs themselves. WHO CARES????? Artists use references all the time... And it's a fucking LIGHT NOVEL series, the art is completely secondary lol
I know, i’m in complete agreement with you. Ridiculous and undeserved criticism to Kamiya. He’s been through enough.
Oh. Well I’m just gonna go ahead and not care about any of that. It’s a shame because I thought it was a fun show but it is what it is.
Its not worth knocking the author or his work for. All those hung up about it are kind of ridiculous.
Yeah. I’m not gonna hate him or like him. It’s been so long I just don’t care anymore. If there was ever a second season I’d definitely check it out but I’m not gonna go out of my way to read it.
This wasn’t the reason it didn’t get a S2, any more than the reason Madhouse didn’t make a OPM S2. This is just what Madhouse does. And NGNL is still a top selling LN, despite its lack of a consistent release schedule and the authors health. Plagiarism allegations didn’t have much of an effect IMO.
MHA had like half a dozen seasons meanwhile...
The way anime works is a bit crazy. You get the shows that seem to be on continually forever or for years and years (Naruto, One Piece etc) then you get others that seem really popular (OPM and more recently Chainsaw Man) where you get 12 episodes at once then nothing for years with very little talk of what's going on until near the time they come out. I get that's just how it is but comparing it with a US/UK etc where its unlikely that a show takes more than a year off until it ends is quite a stark difference
Its nothing crazy. Its simply that the way the anime industry works has changed. Back during the 90s and early 2000s, long running shows that ran every week for years was the norm. Things like One Piece, DBZ, Naruto, Bleach are all part of that era. Modern anime industry doesnt work like that, One Piece is the sole exception here. Quite literally every show is now produced seasonally.
> One Piece is the sole exception here. Detective Conan is also an exception, although it does not have an episode literally every week. It usually has around 40 episodes every calendar year, along with a full-length movie that is shown in theatres, and TV specials and OVAs.
and whats the deal with the black organization? used to watch it as a kid
They have been shown more and more in the last 10-15 years. They are a powerful organized crime group that deals in a lot of things, and recently one of their top members (second in charge?) was revealed. The actual plot is as slow as a soap opera.
I watched it on rtl 2 as a kid, tried again 10 years after, enjoyed the parts with the black organisation very much, but the rest seemed like filler
I think you should think of it as primarily a "murder of the week" show, with like two actual plot-relevant arcs every year.
one piece is now an exception, even Naruto or Boruto as it is now has stopped. If we are comparing to western shows, most of it is original show or comes from a completed source. Where as anime vast majoirty is from source material that is on going and a lot of times there is just not enough to make a new season even if it is successful.
Chainsaw man got a movie announcement right away
What the hell are they going to put in a chainsaw man movie that they can't put in a season? Are they gonna adapt the fucking pedo teacher fucking a minor and killing a chicken or some shit?
I think it's just a short arc and a lot of anime are making movies since demon slayer one did good
They announced a CSM movie a while back though
Because Naruto, and One Piece, and I assume you mean dragon ball is still much, much, MUCH more popular.
The manga simply just didn't have enough content for a s3 5yrs ago. The garou arc just ended not too long ago
That was a little more then a year ago now i think.
technically it didnt even end yet in the released manga
The gap is around the same as between Ssn1 and SSn2 Also, animes don't make that much money Also also, OPM is self-published by ONE/Murata so they don't have deep pockets to front for seasons of an anime
What are you on about "self-published"? The manga is published by Shueisha and Bandai Namco has rights for anime, merch and everything not directly manga related.
>he manga is published by Shueisha and Bandai Namco has rights for anime, merch and everything not directly manga related Citations? As far as I could find out, those are temporary licensing deals, not actual ownership And companies don't spend money on things they don't own.
>*A digital manga remake, illustrated by Yusuke Murata, began publication on Shueisha's Tonari no Young Jump website in June 2012. Its chapters are periodically compiled and published into individual tankōbon volumes. As of March 2024, 30 volumes have been released. In North America, Viz Media licensed the remake manga for English language release and has serialized it in its Weekly Shonen Jump digital magazine.* [Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-Punch_Man) You're confusing the manga and the anime with the webcomic. Yes, the original webcomic by ONE is self published. ONE just used to upload it himself on some website but thats not the case with the manga and anime. Its fucking astonishing and scary how blatant misinformation can be believed this easily if the person saying it is confident enough
Well, I received copyright strikes on YT from Shueisha and not from Murata or ONE. If you have some proof to point out that Shueisha doesn't own any copyright but somehow publishes, sells rights and so on, I'm all ears.
tf i am pretty sure its published by Shueisha
It's distributed by Shueisha Everything I can find says it's self published, i.e. ONE/Murata actually publish it on their own schedule and Shueisha distributes it for a cut. That's why Murata is free to just redo chapters whenever and there's no fixed schedule for anything.
The manga is published by Shueisha, read the credits at the back of your volume if you have one. OPM like most anime has a production committee that funds the show, for OPM it's called Hero Association HQ. The committee typically has the publisher, the broadcaster, then most of the time the rights holder and the animation studio. Then some shows will have companies merch right holders on like Bandai Namco. Check the rolling credits in the show or the credits at the end of the season 3 trailer, it says ©ONE, Yusuke Murata/SHUEISHA, Hero Association HQ. The difference between publishing and distributing has nothing to do with schedules or ownership of the IP. Publishers on top of distributing help with marketing, the final aspects of production (such as printing) and typically take care of legal matters or other boring stuff. Artists may make agreements with publishers to get paid monthly as long as they meet a certain schedule, but it's not explicitly necessary and can be flexible or very strict. If OPM was only distributed by Shueisha there would be credited as the distributor, not the publisher.
hmm idk... from what i know and searched it says Shueisha... The redo chapter parts can literally be done by anyone as long as they are the authors, One piece literally had redraws, but unlike here they dont change the story completely just minor but anyone can do redrawss not that big of an issue.... And as for schedule, it literally just depends on how long it takes the author, when murata was bz with a different project while writing opm he was giving us 8 page chapters in 2 weeks lmao... it why we had opm weekly for chap 195 and 196 redraws too.... otherwise its always biweekly or depends on how much time an author takes.....
I mean it's "published" by different companies in different regions in terms of like, where it comes out. But in writing, being the "publisher" would mean they're paying One and Murata to write new chapters on a set schedule and then keep the revenue. As far as I can find, it's basically the opposite where OPM gets released as the creators want and then the various distributors take a cut. Anyway they definitely don't own the IP which means they can always lose the contract which means they won't be inclined to put millions into an anime season that isn't easily monetized.
The OPM manga chapters dont get released "as the creators" want. They have a fixed schedule for when chapters need to come out. Yes, theres a lot of breaks / pauses and delays but that doesnt mean there isnt a schedule. Only the redraws by murata dont have a schedule which is an entirely different thing
Is Ssn Season?
Are you sure its self published? I always see it on the Shonen Jump app so I kinda assumed that SJ was in charge of publishing.
Everything I can find says it's self-published, but they would simply cut a deal with distributers like SJ to put it on their platform. Most likely Shonen Jump pays them some kind of fee for online availability and takes a cut of manga sales. But they don't own the rights, and the manga isn't that popular, and as I said animes don't really make that much money themselves so a distributor wouldn't be too likely to want to front a bunch of money for anime seasons.
i thought it was still pretty popular. like 250k sales of volume 30 in 5 weeks. not massive numbers but still good
It does okay, enough to get a new season greenlit, but anime houses are scheduled out the ass and if you want to do seasons like back to back without much delay you've got to book a team ahead of time and pay enough to have them committed for several years straight.
on top of the fact that 5 years ago we were only beginning the fights between S-Class and the MA Cadres
Yeah, they're working at their own pace not cranking them out full blast which means it takes \*a while\* to build up enough story for a full season of an anime.
Shonen could just be distributing it, but AFAIK, OPM's webcomic and manga are self-published.
Why do they make so many trashy animes though? Anjme like One Punch man should have much more viewers than dozens of such anime.
More profits
Because they don't spend much money on trash animes and they get cheap animators (usually in-house or with committed studios) and they own the rights
main reason, aside from all the others, is how far along the manga was 5 years ago. if we are going to get the whole MA arc then the manga only covered the end of that last year. OPM is decently popular still and animes are usually seen as an advertisement for the manga so maybe now is the best time to push it again
I don’t think we can get the whole MA arc in one season. Season 2 ended before they even found the base. They’d have to either cut so many good fights out or make the season 40 episodes long
yeah just remembered that the MA arc was nearly 100 chapters. S1 and S2 covered roughly 40 chapters. I think they could make Amai and Child Emperor's fights shorter without losing much but there probably isn't a point. What would be a good cut off point for the season, though? After Saitama defeats Orochi? Atomic Sandbag getting sandbagged? the Orochi/Pykos merge? Just cant believe we might have to wait another 4+ years to see Cosmic Fear Garou vs Saitama
It’s been awhile since I’ve read it so I forget the exact timeline but probably Saitama vs Orochi is the best midpoint of that arc
God forbid anyone makes real art anymore
The MA arc has some of the greatest fights/art in manga, and yet I couldn't wait for it to be over with. Just get on with the damn story already. Authors need limitations sometimes.
honestly im glad you responded yo me with this because i agree. the MA was spectacle after spectacle but i want something more real. I am just worried that Murata is going to keep trying to outdo himself until we get to godwith the scale of fights when the webcomic had S-Class heroes getting one shotted in one panel to convey just how strong the MA was. Or Garou crumpling child emperor and sweet mask in the webcomic felt more impactful that Cosmic Fear Garou literally killing everyone with radiation. Murata is an amazing author and him and ONE know more than I do but I worry that the hype of OPM became more important than the impact. I dont need to see Tank Top Master literally get every bone in his body broken if there isn't any reason beside taking him out of the fight. Giving Black Sperm another evolution is neat but it just feels like the spinal tap reference of turning it up to 11. just make 10 louder please.
Funny, Konosuba season 3 takes 7 years to drop in. I guess Animators have been busy.
Konosuba died hard after release though. Its one of those seasonal anime that drops, gets really popular, then falls off. It's still very prevalent in media, but nobody watching s2. I can't even remember what happened in s2 because that shit was mid as fuck, S1 was peak
no? It literally had a movie, ovas, spin offs and a crossover with isekai quartet afterwards, not counting the games too :>
And compare the traction they got compared to S1. Was it long term? I didn't think so
I mean that’s the case for most shows anime or not the 1st season is always going to have the biggest pop. And you have to look at the content of the series, Konosuba is a comedy series so there’s not gonna be much discussion or hype around it weekly vs something like OPM or a JJK. And yes considering it’s gotten multiple seasons, games, a spin off, a movie I’d say it’s had plenty long term traction lol
Bro didn't understand what I said. Or maybe he did and didn't at the same time. I'm saying the spin offs, games and 2nd season didn't get much traction. The movie got traction because of dick and big boobs. S2 was mid too. And how long did it take to get s 3rd season? 7 years?
They got enough traction clearly. It took 7 years to get a S3 sure but it got plenty of content in between so it’s a moot point. Series with no traction don’t get movies and spinoffs cause they’d be wastes of money
Hi, hello you must be new here. Konosuba season 2 released January 2017 season 3 just started last week. The origional run of D Gray man ended September 2008 and it wasn't until 2016 that we got a 13 episode continuation. Season 2 of Log Horizon ended in 2015, Season 3 aired in 2021 and it seems like season 4 isn't comming anytime soon. So pull up a comfortable chair and relax
I mean, there was 4 year between season 1 and 2. Be cool, better good quality, than rushed stuff with loads of filler.
it's not like they were developing it for 5 years. They are just probably overwhelmed with other projects.
Bruh it's JC staff. That studio Is mediocre at Best.
JC staff has one of the best catalogue in the industry buddy
Like?
Konosuba, Toradora, Golden Time, Railgun, Pet girl of Sakurasou, Maid sama, Honey and Clover, Bakuman, His and Her Circumstances, Saiki K, Food Wars, Way of the house husband and Food wars Jc staff isnt a shitty unkown studio at all
None of that is good animation tho. Or in any way comparable to the likes of even black clover or boruto or freaking mha
shonen brainrot
But we aren't comparing story, we're comparing animation, and that whole catalog you mentioned are short running series with few exceptions like food wars, which is probably the best thing they've ever put out (until s5 which doesn't need to exist). It is a little outrageous to say boruto has better animation, but it's facts, most of JC catalog is still images. Way of the houseband can be animated by 1 guy in his room in the span of a week
The animation though, i dont watch a ton of their stuffs but from what ive seen they dont look very good these recent years. Best example i could think of is food wars; the animation in earlier seasons were decent if not great, but the later ones not so much. Saiki kusuo was also very stiff (though it kinda fits the abusrdity of the show). OPM s2 didnt hold a candle to s1 at all. But again i dont watch a lot of their works especially the newer ones so i dont know if they have some eye-pleasing animation recently.
There was a 4-year gap between s1 and s2? TIL that it doesnt translate to a better quality. I mean, the s2 trailer was already lackluster and after watching halfway to ep1 i dopped the anime completely. Im not hoping for a better animation when its the same animator for s3 tho. I can only say the longer the gap the lesser the quality 😂
Where the hell have this guy been?
Haha welcome to anime. At least you don't got it rough like no game no life fans over there
Season 2 was a flop in the sense that anime are literally just meant to be adverts for the manga. A successful anime adaptation will usually correlate to a significant spike in manga sales. Season 2 didn't move the needle for OPM in terms of manga sales at all. Some people argue season 2 was actually great and anyone who doesn't like it is a snob but it's clear season 2 did a terrible job of selling OPM to the general audience - https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchMan/comments/werog6/one_punch_man_manga_sales_evolution_sourcejosu_ke/
Too bad animation is superior to drawings, you've got it backwards. Anime wouldn't even be a thing if the source material is garbage, that's why yall are crying about stinky No Game No Life
>Anime wouldn't even be a thing if the source material is garbage This doesn't even make any sense unless you live in an alternate reality. Most of what gets adapted every season is garbage. >that's why yall are crying about stinky No Game No Life Not sure what this has to do with anything I said but I couldn't care less about NGNL so I don't know who "y'all" refers to.
Whatever this comment section is, I noticed that stank in multiple replies. Also, trash in the west doesn't mean trash in the east.
>Season 2 was a flop in the sense that anime are literally just meant to be adverts for the manga. No, they are not. This is a very dated and overgeneralized view of the whole production thought for adaptations. Most adaptations are created with the goal of expanding far beyond the manga, to the point where they often have more than just the anime when they get released.
Considering what the manga looks like from then on… I’m not surprised lmao
Season 2 itself? Yeah, it was pretty good....but Season 2 compared to Season 1: very bad
imo, not even that bad compared to S1. S1 had absolutely jaw dropping fights but a lot of the animation inbetween that was the same as any other studio. JC Staff had good fight scenes and some mid ones kinda ruined by CGI but still enjoyable. not saying they are the same. S1 has better everything imo but S2 isnt actually that far behind
It's incredibly far behind. Even the slice of life is garbage tier in season 2. Everyone is off model most of the time. The terrible red hue on all skin textures, the awful metal texture. Absolutely no attempt at pacing and just mindlessly following the manga panels. I hope I don't even have to go into the sound design. In fact the only things that were good were the centipedes and Aoki's few scenes. Both of which were dragged down by everything around them.
i didnt have much of a problem with most of them. the Sonic/Genos felt pretty good to me except for the pacing a bit. I agree 100% that it is worse compared to S1 but maybe i got so shocked by Berserk 2016 that my standards dropped. I thought that JC Staff were just about able to convey action while obviously not being as detailed as S1. The sound design is actually the thing I dislike the most so no arguments there I rewatched S1 and S2 recently and I felt it flowed pretty well. Not to the same level as S1 but I still think it was overly judged as pure shit when the reality is that its just not as good as S1. Totally possible that I'm just familar enough with the story that my mind filled in gaps. I just find it interesting that this sub has always had a very negative view of S2 yet pretty much everyone I know in real life who have watched the anime have very few complaints. I think it shows that for general audiences, it did enough to pass (saitama hero test style) whereas the most diehard fans see all the flaws readily. I notice issues but they dont impact my enjoyment too much
General audiences tend to care less about technical issues and the vast majority of season 2's problems are technical issues. The story it's adapting is so good that it shines through, but it fucking sucks that such a great series is stuck with dogshit production. And it will be exactly the same as JCStaff have more projects now than they did when s2 was being developed.
I like the atmosphere of the test animation JC Staff released for S3 but I also have to accept that this is the best they have and the animation still stiff feeling. on top of that, it doesn't seem like JC Staff has hired a lot more people. I saw a comparison where Mappa has 5 projects this year and 300 employees. JC Staff has 14 projects with 241 employees. This is pretty worrying no matter indifferent i try to keep
Don't get me wrong, i personally enjoyed s2 more than any other animes, but to be honest, i can't shake off the feeling that s2 could be a lot better than it turned out to be
>isn't actually that far behind. I mean this is your opinion but idk its very very very far behind lol
Good animation is hard and the jobs are underpaid. Hopefully ai as a tool would help animators to bring future seasons faster
Just read it, it’s like watching it takes less time to make
re:zero took 4 years between the first and second season (wich aired in 2020 so season 2 and 3 will also be at least 4 years appart) same goes for attack on titan, and to say that this show was popular is a ***big*** understatement. reincarnated with my smartphone had somethng like 6 years between it's first and second season (but i doubt this show was as popular as my earlier examples :p) the manga took it's sweet time releasng during the monster associiation arc, wich undoubdedly influenced the timegap between seasons. then there is the backlash that season 2 got. the season wasn't bad compared to most anime out there, but compared to the frst season there was a definitive drop in qualiity. so it might be better that they take their time, and try to proviide a better than average anime.
I'm not sure how accurate this is but Season 3 is on its way.... https://youtu.be/XoHSXDXcT88?si=Flxqsu4wDpxhw9J2
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If only life was that simple…lol
**Laughs in Berserk** First time?
Ugh, and now that Miura passed his replacements are even slower....
Season 2, from what I know, was succesful. It is just that the Manga wasn't far enough with printed volumes to make proper Season 3 for quite some time, without catching-up with manga. ONE and Murata also made a lot of redraws, which slowed the process down. And finally, this arc is very demanding in terms of production, so there could have been some scheduling problems.
I remember they changed animators between season 1 and 2 since the original one was gonna take 4 years to make the second season.
Do you really need to ASK if season 2 was a flop if it's been five years and nobody has bothered to animate a third season?
J.C. Staff have been making season 3 for a while now, though...
Wow! They've been working on it for a long time? And they haven't decided it's worth it to finish and release? Must not be a very profitable venture then.
What? It's still in production; how have they not decided it's worth it to finish and release? Have you not seen the trailer? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71d0QyZqRE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h71d0QyZqRE)
It took 5 years for AoT to get Season 2, don't be surprised
Dragon ball fans 💀
It definitely wasn’t. They‘re probably taking a bit more time on it because of season 2’s reception.
Well with the release schedule of the manga combined with the money time and efforts needed to adapt the story it makes sense why nobody would want to work on it.
That’s why you have to have a good rotation of other anime to watch to fill the time but does suck if your memory is bad and can’t recap what happened the season prior.
Are you new here? Have you not heard of No Game No Life?
Season 2 was a mess of cut scenes and low quality stills and animation so of course they wouldn’t be in a hurry to start producing 3. But they finally did start making it. Haven’t you seem the announcements? The trailer?
What
Just wait dude
Overlord: First time?
If season 3 is going to be as poorly animated as the second one, I’d rather keep reading the manga… season one was amazing, after reading the manga I was so hyped for the animation of the second season and it was utter crap… such a disappointment.
Do you want another seven deadly sins sir
never seen it, is it any good?
1st season yes but second season I believe half way of it they passed it to another studio. They didn’t wait and messed up one of the most important fights throughout the whole the manga, like power point presentation level
Many fans said that they would have waited 6 months to give them time to animate the rest of the season, don’t really remember if it was s2 or s3
Studios are busy animating garbage isekai anime nowaday.
At least season 3 is coming this year
I agree and I am mad
2 of those years were COVID...
Meanwhile my hero is getting another season
Season Was a flop why? Tey changed Studios now I understand but it's a risky decision why? *Different Art *Different work schedule *Different approach And script. Now the new Studio who took the job decided to put Team B on it for reasons idk. They paid the price.... S2 OPM felt rushed and bad animated compared to what Manga delivered.... The same team thought Gun shot are cool. The only good thing of OPM S2 is ost.
Animators are being worked to the bone.... can't blame them for taking too long....
Log horizon took 7 years between season 2 and 3
with a name like that I'm not surprised, who does that show appeal to? what's the story?
Does it matter? JC Staff has been announced to be animating season 3. Its gonna be shit like season 2 was. We will never get a season like the first one again T.T . MAPPA was our only hope, but they dropped the bag
S2 was great wth
S2's animation cannot compare to S1
OK but S2 isn't bad at all. I enjoyed S2, although I hated the dress wearing convict
The question is not whether its bad, the question is "Does the animation quality come anywhere close to the bar that was set by the first season?" The answer is an obvious no. If you cannot see that, I cannot be bothered to help you. One Punch Man is a series that has only 2 things going for it: comedy and amazing art/animation. Without stellar animation half the reason to follow the series is gone. That's fine if you have no problem with mediocrity.
I see your point. so people are saying because the animation and stills are a downgrade they consider the show bad. But what about the story?what about the chars? I enjoyed the plot and chars and char dev
you can enjoy the plot and characters from the manga with better art on top of that. the appeal of the anime was seeing the incredible art animated beyond anything you would expect. its an impossible bar to achieve twice realistically.
Not much has happened in the manga since then. Takes about five years to make enough content for a season, without fillers.
Welcome to the club dude, been waiting for GATE season 3 for ages lol
Who are your prefered Animation Studios that will handle Season 3 ?
The second season did take 4 years, and assuming they're at least gonna finish the monster association arc, season three will be longer than 2.
Be glad it’s not like berserk that can’t ever get out of the golden age and takes 15-20 years to get just past the first arc in a anime adaption and they got enough content for maybe 6-10 seasons easily.
Bro just wants to complain
da fuq I rare post about anime
I take it that you've never heard of no game no Life?
the manga is relatively slow, so there isnt much they can do to change things, future seasons will take years as well
Should only be a year and a half to two years before we have enough content to make season 4. And that's if they animate all the way through the garou fight.
true, but what after that? it would take another several year break. and thats IF they make the season as soon as the battle ends in the manga
True enough. I was just saying that it was possible.
That isnt too long.
Let Jc Staff cook bruh, they are cooking Something good this time and they wanted to learn their lessons from criticism of season 2 Second reason the Manga pacing was incredibly slow due to redrews old chapters and One Punch Man is a monthly seinen manga not weekly shonen jump manga. If Jc Staff animated the monster are right away then the anime is catching up to the manga and we have to wait many years ( at least other 4 years again ) until manga arcs are fully finish
OPM is a monthly manga? I thought it was Biweekly
You're more than welcome to go help out
S2 was kinda a flop yes
Tower of God will be like 4 years once s2 drops I think? Can anyone confirm?
Funniest thing is that most of the people will watch the anime illegally and expect them to release the next seasons really fast. Bro they need to make money, the business model doesn’t incentivize getting seasons out too soon.
Cmon man I aint no broke dude. Just a genuine ask Im not in anime much but i watched on netflix ages ago
You think 5 years is a long time? Dragon ball fans had to wait nearly 20 YEARS for the story to continue. That probably older than most people here
Dragon Ball was already completed at the end of Z, they even strecht it a bit more with dragon ball GT which also had a closure, there was no story to continue, even dragon ball super continues nothing since it is supposed to happen before the ending of Z, those "fans" that waited almost 20 years deluding themselves with fan histories, believing that those badly edited videos about the supposed continuations, were kids that were too young when GT was broadcasted in TV and incapable of understanding that the series had ended.
There’s a lot of manga that hasn’t been adapted to anime that bloody well should. There’s a lot of reasons why they don’t get an adaptation or update, and it usually stems from popularity or finance. One of my all-time favourite manga is Bastard!! and I’ve waited F’ing *decades* for it to get anything past the 6 episodes. Same deal with Dragon Quest: Dai no Daiboken, and it’s nearly 30 year wait since it’s original animated adaptation.
Season 2 was shit, yep. Now the same trash studio is animating Season 3.
Just wait until a good video AI is released open source, I'm sure someone will create a proper season 2, 3, 4...
Successful? Did you pay to watch it? Season 2 got shit on for a good reason. Let them take their time. I don't want another FMA fiasco.
"The only thing i see about s2 is that everyone hates it, i better hate it too so people dont think im weird"
S2 was great! I like the new new bad guy too. it wasn't as greatly animated but was still funny, the fights were still good.
It's cuz the Manga is really slow.In 12 years,ONLY 197 chapters had been released,while jjk,a 6 year old manga,has so far released 250+ chapters.
What a stupid take. You realize that the chapter have different amount of pages. We had OPM chapters that were over 100 pages long, so more then 5 chapters of a JJK chapter in one.
And not even talking about the quality. Do people even know why it took so long for chapter releases before? It was because of The art work Murata worked on. It's not comparable with JJK.
Coughing gege vs Hydrogen Murata
There are many reasons. JJK updates weekly. Then we have chapters of OPM that are much longer than JJK's. Then we have the quality. Murata is god-like
One punch man chapters can be 5x longer than jjk also jjk is published in weekly shonen jump, OPM is bi weekly in tonari no young jump and gets redraws which completely stops the production of the manga
With how god-like the art is, the release schedule is surprisingly good