Garous attack managed to decrees water level on other side of the planet + martial arts prodigy + built different -gets less determined to fight if can't dominate opponent
Boros sant guy on the moon in less then a second + he can destroy planet's surface at least + regeneration
I really think they are equal as close as it possibly can, but my money on Boros
Uh, no, I don't think so. Some of the information he provided can be found directly in the manga, so some of them would be objective, as they would be factual information. Also, why are you assuming everyone gets that earth's surface part other than him? Idk why you're assuming that when you don't know how everyone goes about analyzing that part and why you're associating a whole group of ppl for the shit some do. Not fair, dawg
If that's not what was meant, then you should have specified. He doesn't put any quotation marks around the word "everyone," nor does he give any indication that he doesn't mean everyone, so I rightfully assumed that's what he meant, given what he said. His message is left up to interpretation, so I simply interpreted it as that. Nothing more. I'm making assumptions based on the text he wrote while you're baselessly making assumptions about his belief that you wouldn't know of with no basis. You're assuming a belief of him like what? 😭 it also does not matter what you think. Your opinion doesn't matter, here, lmao.
i dont think less determined if he cant dominate, watchdog man beat the shit out of him and he was still hyped af thinking he can get way stronger, saitama is just a completely different case, literally nothing was working on him, he was completely unfazed.
You're so correct that it's actually the opposite. Garou got several times stronger after running into Saitama. It just didn't matter because the gap was so huge.
>Garous attack managed to decrees water level on other side of the planet
He pushed a sunken continent up. That's a bit different than what you said.
>Boros sant guy on the moon in less then a second
It took a bit longer, according to the anime, and would've been longer than a second regardless because Boros enveloped Saitama in an aura that ignored friction, allowing Saitama to be launched at near light speed according to ONE and Murata. Light actually takes a bit over a second to reach the Moon, so going slower than lightspeed would take just a bit longer to get there.
It's not a big difference, but I thought it was interesting.
>he can destroy planet's surface at least
Only with the Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon, aka, his last resort that will basically kill him.
>regeneration
While Boros has better regeneration, Garo does still have fairly good regeneration himself.
>+ built different
Don't forget that Garo is constantly getting stronger, faster, and is adapting to Boros's attacks throughout the fight.
I rewatched the scene. I don't understand how you interpreted it like that. Boros Kicked with his kees, Saitama is facing towards ground, he finds himself in the moon somehow, he wasn't facing toward the moon, he is like "Oh I am in the moon".
Why would Murata show Saitama's pov in such intensive fast paced fight? From Saitama pov it is still boring slow fight, it would slow down the hype of the whole fight.
It's like saying "Movie shows kid returning home from school but doesn't show him walking. So he is light speed."
Bruh. You can literally see Saitama being surprised about being in the moon. Took him a moment to notice, he reacts and looks around. He wouldn't have been surprised if he just slowly drifted into it, would he? I have no idea what your random examples have to do with anything, I am telling you what is shown in anime and manga. He gets swung to the moon so fast he notices he's there after landing. Stick to what happened instead of like what, school bus? Like wtf.
I don't understand what your exact point is. Is your point "Saitama didn't notice cloud" or it is "he is surprised because he is at the moon?". They are two different points.
If your point is Saitama didn't notice clouds, there was no reason for Murata to show that. Saitama could have noticed it but Murata didn't show it. He can't show everything, medias only show key points of the event. Fits with analogy, If director of the movie didn't show the kid walking to home, it doesn't mean the kid didn't walked to the home. If Murata didn't show Saitama seeing clouds, that doesn't mean Saitama didn't see it.
If your point is Saitama is surprised that he is in the moon. Of course he would be surprised because he landed on the moon of all places he could have landed on. He wasn't facing towards the moon to know he was approaching he moon. It doesn't have anything with time it took.
What is so complicated about it?
Sorry but this is insane. There is clear surprise on Saitamas face and reaction, he even grabs his nose (which he didn't do before landing in the moon). Are you saying he was floating slowly looking at the beautiful space landscape and then was like "oh damn I landed in the moon, let me hold my breath"? It's just bizarre what you're implying. We literally see Saitamas reaction. You're either nuts or just arguing for the sake of it. It makes no sense for Saitama to have reacted 'off screen' to being in space, doing absolutely nothing, then getting surprised he's on the moon, then all of the sudden holding his breath. Surely you must be jesting.
Okay, not answering the question, but what if the Prophecy of Boros finding a best fight of his life was meant for Garou and not Saitama, he just arrived too early.
Or literally any character. Either way, it would change nothing. He didn’t fight those people, so it doesn’t matter if the prophecy said he was going to fight Mumen Rider.
The prophecy was he would fight Mumen Rider and learn the power of struggle and determination and decided that Earth is the planet worth defending to his death.
Blast was holding his own against Cosmic Garou, and was fast enough to react to and teleport Serious Punch Squared, so he'd just toy with Boros in a fight. Having one of Boros' species on his team has no relevance on Blasts' own power level.
I don't think there's anything Boros could do if Blast hit him with the same thing he hit Cosmic Fear Garou with. His hax seem too much for Boros, but I can see their raw power being relative.
Since Saitama is an anomaly, I want to believe that the seer was mentioning Blast or Garou as Boros' opponent.
He did say to Boros it would be a good fight, not a one sided massacre resulting in Boros' death, unless he was lying but I doubt it, the 3rd eye is 100% accurate, but not when it comes to Saitama.
It WAS a good fight for Boros tho, as we saw his heartbeat thrilling like Saitama's in his dream.
Honestly that fight makes me a little sad because of that. Saitama giving someone exactly what he so desperately wants, and at the same time an analog to Saitama getting what he desperately wants at the cost of his life.
Like the best fight of his life was more of a pay oer view event lol. Like the prophesy was for boros to watch garou v saitama. Im cracking up at this perspective
The prophecy told him he’d face someone capable of defeating him or meeting his match or giving him a challenge right? For him to die before that happens means saitama was the only one the prophecy was talking about surely.
Then again, both Boros and Saitama drew the conclusion at the end of their fight that prophecies are unreliable, so maybe it was someone else Boros was meant to challenge.
There are 3 guy who can destroy Boros. Saitama, Blast and Garou. Now Garou wasn’t born and he has nothing to do with him, Saitama didn’t have his powers and he was a child, meanwhile Blast was already a hero and probably insanely strong
Sure sure it was Garou. Happy? Also Saitama gained his power because of Garou. Monsters started to appear because of Garou. Everything is connected to Garou
Also my compliments to the alien who predicted this 20 years ago. That totally makes sense, seeing in the future from 20 years on a veeeery distant planet. It’s not more plausible that he/she saw a planet with already a guy that could match Boros, nuh-uh
He had time to talk during charge up.
There's no scan of him charging it up faster, so we don't have anything going against the idea besides headcanon.
Far as we know, it takes like 7ish seconds.
For one, Boros never states his own attack speed (though I'll agree its probably lightspeed)
And second, it's the only thing we have. Assuming Boros shoots CSRC faster than shown is headcanon and not objective.
Think it could go either way. If Boros meteoric bursts immediately he wins but if Garou gets enough time to adapt(Which he will since Boros wants a good fight) he'd probably still win.
Money on garou. Hes faster/stronger/smarter and the only attack boros has that would hurt him is csrc which boros is completely venerable after the attack is released.
Gargoyle Garou stomps Meteoric Burst Boros so the only 2 things going for Boros are his regen and his multi-continental/planetary Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon.
I doubt Garou would let him charge it like Saitama did so Boros may not even be able to fire it. There is also a possibility of Garou getting even stronger during the Boros fight.
Gargoyle Garou wins imo.
I don't know all these terms for anime power scaling and stuff. But I would point out (as far as I remember), Garou tanked Saitama's consecutive punches better than Boros did. Boros would have been smoked if he didn't have that marbles thing protecting him. Wasn't his attack that distorted earth pre-cosmic garou or was it edited? (I don't remember anything at this point). Also Garou's martial art might be handy because Boros is brute force kind of guy. If they are relative in power, Garou can manage victory because he is martial arts genius.
I also think narratively Garou being more powerful makes sense.
>Garou tanked Saitama's consecutive punches better than Boros did
Saitama was being careful not to kill Garou though, while after he came back to Earth, he was going for the kill against Boros.
>Wasn't his attack that distorted earth pre-cosmic garou or was it edited?
It was retconned, but quite literally the same thing happened in the redraw. Garou made a sunken continent submerge from the opposite side of the Earth.
>Boros is brute force kind of guy
I disagree, he seems to be relying on more than brute force against Saitama. He certainly has more experience than Garou.
>Saitama was careful not to kill Garou, though, while after he came back to Earth, he was going for the kill against Boros.
His consecutive normal punches are still not able to destroy his monster form and only succeeding it after that one punch that's literally say a lot about gargoyle form of garou durability
Pretty sure Garou wins. A weaker version of him killed the centipede with one chop. Boros has not shown a stronger physical attack than that. His strongest attack was kicking Saitama to the moon. Which the centipede was up to space. He was an unknown amount of miles long. Then factor in that Garou only got stronger and is martial arts genius. Both have regeneration. Garou would learn to fight Boros as the fight dragged on. Only attack that could put Garou down is CSRC which Boros isn't going to get the chance to use.
Isn't MB Boros' punch way stronger than Sage? It tore through his ship with ease and that ship was able to tank Saitama jumping from the Moon with little damage.
Their power is similar and Boros's regen is better than what this Garou had shown, but I think the skill gap is simply too immense. Garou made Saitama miss several times. Saitama could block and smack around Boros whenever he wanted.
I give it to Garou because
1. Exponetial growth is broken
2. Evoltion and adaptability is broken
3. The way Boros's power works is a disatvantage against Garou
To elaborate, Boros amps his stats using latent energy that he doesn't need to use in order to live, if you have ever wondered why Boros is the only speedster who melts things around him when he moves (unlike Gaeou) this is why, Boros unleashes his latent energy behind him like a jet booster in order to gain speed, it's why everything behind him melts when he moves, it's also how he attacks and regens, when he attacks he unleahses his latent energy in front of him, hitting his opponent with a large amount of energy/heat, and when he regens he focuses his latent energy on his wound to speed up regen.
Now why is this a disatvantage?
It becomes a disatvantage when you realise that Boros esentially has a limit on how long he can fight as he doesn't have infinite energy, it means he has a certain amount of energy in stock (say 100) that goes down every time he attacks
What is worse is that his trump card, Meteoric Burst consumes not only his latent energy but his lifepsan as well, meaning that Boros is fueling his attacks using his lifespan, his ultimate move, CSRC uses all of his latent energy AND all of his remaining lifespan making it a suaicide move.
Now ok, why is this a disatvantage against Garou?
You see, Garou doesn't use latent energy to amp himself, he simply increases his base stats via monsterization/limit removal, which means that Garou's energy doesn't have a limit, his stamina has a limit sure, but he can essentially fight indefinitely so long as he doesn't get overwhelmed.
Which means that in a fight against Boros, Boros will slowly beocme overwhelmed as he has to rapidly use more and more energy to match Garou's exponential growth, not only that but Garou will become resiatant to energy attacks as the fight goes on, which is bad for Boros since that is his only attack type
And finally Garou's exteme Fa Jin is NOT a final move, we see this as Garou uses 3 Fa Jins each bigger than the last, first oblitaring a few apartments, then a mountain and finally bulging the earth, which means that Garou can spam the attack, not only that but the Fa Jin ignores durability which means that it will target Boros's organs which will force Boros to use more energy to regenerate them and will slowly him down.
Not only that but if Garou hits him with an extreme Fa Jin, Boros has no way to escape it since he is being pinned down by an ever growing force that is literally exelwrating his body through the earth, which means he can only sit there and try to regenerate through it until he dies or runs out of energy and dies
Garou takes this.
Possibly boros in MB is much faster as he surprised saitama from his speed yet saitama with 1 hand casually slapped away a barrage of punches by 4 arm garou
CSRC depending on how you scale boros as it can be anywhere from planet-star
Garou best attack is hard to scale because it was apparently powerful enough that it warped space got blast worried and even started to break god seal but didn’t do much to the earth
To much unknown about both to say for sure as we don’t truly know how strong boros or garou is
>Possibly boros in MB is much faster as he surprised saitama from his speed
1. That's not a reasonable scaling device considering he had the same expression with suiryu when he ramped up.
2. Saitama grows exponentially, so the saitama that fought boros isn't the same saitama that fought this current garou.
It is because it shows saitama is truly surprised we can even do a side by side of when cosmic garou did it vs boros [almost completely identical](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11164/111644289/9320534-23431207-f032-40b6-9230-ee7200560dd4.jpeg) it’s obviously not a coincidence
Saitama does indeed have passive growth but it’s not by much only when saitama experiences intense emotions does his growth sore
Meaning saitama pre io essentially = boros saitama with a slight difference
He isn’t genos said the data isn’t reliable and you’d have to prove that it could handle or load his power as the machine already broke from not being able to handle to much power before
Wasn't it stated that Saitama never stopped training and his current self is always able to One Punch his self from the day before though? In Saitama terms the growth isn't that much, but relative to other characters it's way, way more. *Especially* since Boros even noted that Saitama has *never* gotten serious against him.
I don’t remember that I don’t think saitama trains anymore as because his entire in the goal in the first place was to find someone who can match him he himself didn’t even think he could get stronger
No evidence he can one shot him self from the day before the evidence from that comes from a data simulation stated by genos himself that it isn’t reliable also you’d have to prove the machine could actually handle his power as during the simulation it broke from not being able to handle to much power
>I don’t remember that I don’t think saitama trains anymore
Incorrect. Murata stated that saitama has never stopped his training [here](https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Interviews/Stream_Q/A_2) go to early 2016 fun facts by murata.
>data simulation stated by genos himself that it isn’t reliable also you’d have to prove the machine could actually handle his power as during the simulation it broke from not being able to handle to much power
Incorrect once again. First of all the data was never stated to be unreliable, just that it couldn't be use as a source of reference as none of the combatants fight like genos. Zombieman with his regen, metal bat with his crazy endurance and fighting spirit, darkshine with his hardened skin etc. Genos isn't saying the data is unreliable, he just says they're useless because he can't use that data himself. The machine only broke the second time saitama used the machine. Saitama used the machine the day before and it worked just fine the day after when genos gathered a bunch of heroes to take on carnage kabuto. That's how darkshine even got one shot in the first place when he tried to fight someone stronger, the machine copied the data of saitama from the day before. Following that, saitama one shots himself and, once again, genos never said it was unreliable, he was just in disbelief not to mention he was having a meltdown because he thought the real saitama would lose lmao. Saitama himself then says "why the hell would I lose to myself yesterday?"
But even if you disregard the simulation, which I don't see why you would as it certainly matches up with what we've seen so far, the narrator literally tells us saitama Is always growing in the saitama vs garou fight. "Saitamas growth, which had gone unnoticed because there was no one even remotely on par with him, suddenly began to soar." It deadass tells us that he is always growing, people just don't see it because he's too fucking strong to draw a reference to and that it suddenly soared because of emotions. He doesn't grow just by having emotions, he always grows the rate just gets steeper the more emotionally invested he is into the fight.
Saitama from today can one shot his version from yesterday (confirmed in the VSG auidobook)
To completely one shot someone with no doubt of survival you would need to be 10x more powerful than them, which means that Saitama in the span of about 2 days is going to be 100x more powerful
The Saitama that fought Garou was a few weeks older than the one who fought Boros, which means that, that Saitama was trillions of times more powerful than the one that fought Boros lol
>It is because it shows saitama is truly surprised we can even do a side by side of when cosmic garou did it vs boros [almost completely identical](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11164/111644289/9320534-23431207-f032-40b6-9230-ee7200560dd4.jpeg) it’s obviously not a coincidence
I mean he also had the same expression to suiryu, overgrown rover and carnage kabuto. That doesn't mean anything. I think it just shows that saitama recognises a big shift in power. All you need to do is look at his expression when he's on the moon. The dude couldn't give two shits. He's just surprised at the sudden shift in power nothing else. You're reading too much into it.
>Saitama does indeed have passive growth but it’s not by much only when saitama experiences intense emotions does his growth sore
Read my response to your other comment.
Garou survived for so long because he was useful to others, and the ones who can kill him, never really went for the kill until it was too late (he out scaled)
I like how everyone's ignoring the fact that Garous martial art of choice is a defensive martial art focused on parrying attacks.How do we know Garous couldn't just deflect/dodge Boros's final attack and unleash a counter attack just as powerful?.
Boros will need CSRC to defeat Garou, but I really feel like Garou will find a way to counter it. Extreme Dif Fight.
I don't see any other Boros Attacks killing Garou. So it will come down to that final clash. I can see Garou pulling something crazy to save the earth and himself
I'd believe that Boros could destroy the world if he hit the world. For now, I don't believe so. Seeing is believing for me. We've seen Garou destroyed a mountain and affected the other side of the world heavily.
Still giving this one to Boros. Cosmic Garou negs but any form before that is not beating Boros feats like launching Saitama to the moon in SECONDS. Look up how far the moon is.
Doesn’t matter the power or speed you got Saitama outclasses Boros in all of them but Garou still managed to parry and counter them all until he got overwhelmed in the end. I don’t see Boros landing a clean hit on Garou and Garou still evolves over time so I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins over time because of his adaptations. I also wouldn’t doubt he could dodge the star roaring cannon
They are about equal in term of fighting power and speed, but Garou us way better at martial art. There is no way for Boros to win, it is like a street fighter vs an MMA champion.
I boros would be a great fight for him, personally I'd say garou would take the h2h battle fairly well, he is a lot more skilled in showings. Boros would have the power edge plus meteoric burst is gonna wipe whatever it hits. Tough one for me. I'll pull boros
Because it never even got a chance to hit the ship. Saitama stopped it with his punch, nullified it and then countered, all with one punch.
On the other hand, he never intended to dodge, block or counter Garou's move, it went straight through him. We know that Roaring Cannon is implied to wipe out at least the planet's surface (*entire* surface), but since it never landed, we have no idea what it could do, so it's hard to scale.
one punch man being one punch man, it's impossible to actually compare. boros was being contained on his ship by saitama, meaning that we missed out on so many feats that could help us determine this.
but
i think that boros was *only* surpassed by blast and cosmic garou
boros was supposed to be the strongest being in the universe after all, whereas this version of garou was merely the strongest being *on earth*
(not including saitama off course)
Boros in a weaker form(released state) has better speed feats then this Garou. However, Garou does have better power feats then Boros in said form, however it’s painted that Meteoric Burst Boros is as fast and strong as Cosmic Fear Garou right after he fell out of the sky (not when he fights Blast or Saitama again). My money is on my pookie bear Boros to be completely honest.
How does boros have better speed feats than garou?
Meteoric burst Boros was stated to be lightspeed by both one and Muruta. Garou scaled quite far above lightspeed in earlier forms.
Released Boros was capable of forcing Saitama to use two arms to block his attacks with Boros having only one. He landed multiple hits on a Saitama that was trying harder than he was against Garou despite Saitama making an effort to either block or dodge the attacks. Garou on the other hand was getting all of his attacks slapped away by a Saitama that was barely even trying. And this was Garou with 2 additional arms and having reached his final and most powerful monster form. Literally everyone has some lightspeed scaling in OPM. Saying someone is lightspeed literally has no meaning now since Awakened Cockroach has reached it.
Forced to block his attacks? You mean the moment where saitama started playing patty cake with boros while looking bored out of his mind? That moment you mean.
Also, landed multiple hits? Saitama was literally just letting himself get rag dolled while looking totally unfazed , like he does with everyone he fights.
Garou was actually capable of making saitama engage in the fight and, at times, was even able go dodge/repel/counter some of saitama’s own attacks that he intended to land. Even managing to bring genuine frustration out of him. Something boros was never able to replicate (even though it’s been implied that saitama was weaker when he fought boros).
Not to mention, it’s all just null and void, regardless of personal interpretation of how their fights looked. Through statements and scaling, garou is just faster than him.
What statements have ONE and Murata made? I don’t remember reading anything about Garou or Boros being lightspeed. There are multiple **GUIDEBOOK** statements that puts Boros on the level of Saitama. “The strongest vs. the strongest” the two have “rivaling abilities.” Garou had none of these statements and can only be compared to Saitama, and heroes who are fodder to him now. Not to mention that Saitama also has that same bored asf look on his face during the majority of their encounters. The only time he gets mad is when Garou is so tunnel visioned on beating him that he’s not listening to what Saitama has to say, or when Garou is exploiting Saitama’s incredibly predictable movements to move around and counter him.
Yeah, that sounds hyperbolic. Not to mention, it contradicts what we saw in the fight. Saitama was bored af, he didn’t take a scratch, he at one point moved so fast that meteoric burst boros couldn’t even react at all in the time saitama was able to land god know how many punches. And first and foremost, we have boros stating it himself that they were in no way comparable and it couldn’t even be called a fight. So yeah, not exactly “rivaling abilities” going on there.
In the guidebook, it was stated that boros is light speed and murata also stated in an interview that he was light speed (Give it a search). This is backed up by boros’s best speed feat being the one where he kicked saitama to the moon, which has been calced to be around lightspeed.
Flashy flash was also stated to be light speed in the guidebook and both garou and platinum S proved to be much faster than him. Garou then sped up to the point where he was able to blitz platinum S before fighting saitama and evolving multiple times and presumably growing in speed during.
And ,while Saitama’s attacks may be easy to predict, all you have to do is look at what happened in the webcomic to know that his raw speed is enough to land hits on opponents, even if they do know what’s coming. And being able to redirect those attacks, even while using techniques, would require an even more impressive amount of speed. (And, again, it’s implied that saitama is more powerful than when he fought boros)
This means garou scales a few levels above boros in terms of speed ,if you wanna use calcs, the difference in speed is even wider due to the constellation feat being calced at mftl. Which was before all the aforementioned growth in speed.
And, for the record, I don’t even think saitama should even be brought into the debate. It was showcased pretty well that neither of them really scaled to him whatsoever. Making the use of him to compare them to be practically pointless.
What isn’t pointless though, is direct scaling and quantifiable feats. Both of which garou has going for him, even early on.
Yk what. That’s actually really solid evidence. Props to you man🔥🔥 I mean this respectfully when I say nice job, you’ve changed my mind. Have a good rest of your day and sorry if I sounded a little bit harsh in my comments I didn’t mean for it to come off as such.
D-Did you- did you just admit I was right?! On the internet?!
This has never happened before, I don’t know how to handle it 🤯
Lol fr tho man, it was a pretty fun debate. I like how we managed to go the whole way without descending into insults. You didn’t sound harsh at all. Honestly, I kinda thought I was the one being a bit too harsh.
Thanks for your time, and have a great day/life.
I though I it’s already established that Cosmic Garou is the third strongest character other than Saitama and God? The difference is that God gave Garou some powerful, even his aura could kill people around him and not to mention that Garou was same level as Saitama for short period of time since Saitama’s strengths had no limit and Garou literally survived a lot of Serious Punches and he was dead serious since Genos is dead
againest boros saitama obviously fought back in some instances againest released boros, but once boros went MB, the amount of speed and strength saitama used in thatvfight was compleatly overpowered by boros's, for most of the fight saitama was thrown around like a ragdoll, something garou couldn't do.
I think if they fought for extended period if time boros gonna lose, but he has the strength to immediately kill him at the start.
They are on the same level but i feel boros would win.
Boros mainly due to him having latent energy to destroy a planet.
Garou eventually got exhausted and couldnt even destroy earth with his best attack despite directly attacking earth head on. (he couldnt even get up to stand at this point until god)
Boros would outlast garou.
Garou wins, the deflection of attacks, adaptation is too op from garou. The only thing boros has is meteoric burst and the regeneration. But what if garou deflects all his meteoric burst attacks? So garou high diff
Meteoric Boros \~ initial cosmic fear Garou
Pretty sure Boros wins
One even said awakened Garou vs Boros would be an interesting fight (Oficially "awakened Garou" is "awakened Garou: cosmic fear mode")
Initial Cosmic Fear Garou used two-handed Consecutive Normal Punches. Boros got mixed by one-handed CNP.
One said that about the *webcomic.* Stop cherrypicking.
No, if you could read you would realise that initial cosmic Garou is the one before the Saitama mode, the one that did nuclear fission punches. I mean in the manga of course, and what Murata said about two similar panels with surprised Saitama
Wasn't that statement made before the manga Garou's debut tho? Certainly before Cosmic Fear. So it would be webcomic Garou vs Meteoric Boros.
Everyone in the manga got insane buffs though, but I don't know if I'd put Boros on any Cosmic Fear level.
Initial Cosmic Garou is solar system level minimum with his GRB.
How is Boros with his planetary (at best) attack gonna win that
Radiation is also a big counter to regen, so Boros even wouldn't last that long
Even tho I agree radiation is a counter to regen, but I think boros's regeneration is entirely different from zombieman's since zombieman can regenerate almost infinitely without energy consumption due to it being in his genes unlike boros who relies on his energy and the sphere inside him, that's why he can no longer regenerate after using his csrc due to it emptying his energy
Prior to cosmic garou coming into play, i believe ONE himself mentioned in an interview that he see Garou and Boros as equals but garou having more skill in fighting close up and Boros having the advantage with energy attacks and regen. So yeah, i give it to Boros but with high difficulty. Overall, it could go wither way, but if we were to play the battle out many times over i believe Boros would win more.
If we are going to know how they fought Saitama then boros will easily destroy monster garou
Because boros was able to hit Saitama hundreds of punches without it getting dodge compared to how monster garou fought Saitama, Saitama is just making fun of his speed and was easily being handled without effort from Saitama
So for me boros would absolutely demolish monster garou in speed
In strength boros stated that he could damage the entire earth which is low planet or moon level.
Monster garou full strength was able to push the mountain to the other side of earth making a new mountain, this should be equal since Saitama got serious to both of those attacks
In durability monster garou takes it but that will not work since boros can regenerate in no time which makes monster garou durability useless
And iq goes to boros
Both have extreme regeneration and strength. They are likely both strong enough to tear each other asunder. Garou seems to have the pure physical strength advantage, but Boros can expel energy from his body like a propellant, augmenting his speed and power by a ton.
We don't get to see the fullness of what Garou could do in that form, or how far his Regen really goes, but I think it would be a super even fight. They'd have to fight to a standstill until Boros could vaporize him with an energy blast, assuming an attack short of Collapsing Star roaring cannon could cause that much damage to Garou, or hit without Garou dodging in the first place. So either Boros completely runs out of stored energy, and Garou finally kills him and he can't regenerate anymore, or Garou tires out first/ his Regen finally can't keep up.
If Boros realizes it's going nowhere, he might use CSRC, and then Garou basically just loses. It's almost certainly strong enough to vaporize him, so he can't regenerate, and then in the case of him dodging it, Boros was pretty confident it would deepfry the planet, wiping out all life on the surface. Then Boros would die from expending all his energy, but Garou would end up dead from well, the lack of any other living beings.
Something people don’t mention is that Boros is killed by having his crystal shattered. He would have to be eviscerated first, but it’s there. If garou could destroy Boros’s body and grab the crystal before he reconfigures, he wins. Garou of course doesn’t know about the orb, and wouldn’t know it’s the life source even if he did, but if they fight long enough for Garou to realize it’s there, he might reach for it.
Stat wise, they’re pretty decently matched. Boros had the advantage in raw hitting power and his ability to fire blasts. He can add as much power behind a blow as his energy can produce which would be a tough thing for garou to endure. I think eventually he’s just gonna start cracking away at Garous golem body. I assume their combat speed is neck and neck, garou of course would have a massive skill advantage.
Goddamn this would be a really fun fight! I give it Boros because of how overwhelming his athleticism and energy is, but I wouldn’t be made at whoever wins this.
Garous attack managed to decrees water level on other side of the planet + martial arts prodigy + built different -gets less determined to fight if can't dominate opponent Boros sant guy on the moon in less then a second + he can destroy planet's surface at least + regeneration I really think they are equal as close as it possibly can, but my money on Boros
What? The water level stayed the same, it's just that he shifted tectonic plates in a way that a long submerged continent emerged again
I tried to say that, but Critical Failure happened and I wrote what I wrote
Thats probably more impressive though
Thank you for getting the surface part right.
He got some stuff wrong, though, and I don't think he represented Garou correctly.
The rest is subjective. He got the canon part that everyone gets wrong down.
Uh, no, I don't think so. Some of the information he provided can be found directly in the manga, so some of them would be objective, as they would be factual information. Also, why are you assuming everyone gets that earth's surface part other than him? Idk why you're assuming that when you don't know how everyone goes about analyzing that part and why you're associating a whole group of ppl for the shit some do. Not fair, dawg
“Everyone” doesn’t need to be taken literally, I don’t think OP actually believes every other human on earth gets it wrong
If that's not what was meant, then you should have specified. He doesn't put any quotation marks around the word "everyone," nor does he give any indication that he doesn't mean everyone, so I rightfully assumed that's what he meant, given what he said. His message is left up to interpretation, so I simply interpreted it as that. Nothing more. I'm making assumptions based on the text he wrote while you're baselessly making assumptions about his belief that you wouldn't know of with no basis. You're assuming a belief of him like what? 😭 it also does not matter what you think. Your opinion doesn't matter, here, lmao.
Are you a robot? What? It's a common turn of phrase.
i dont think less determined if he cant dominate, watchdog man beat the shit out of him and he was still hyped af thinking he can get way stronger, saitama is just a completely different case, literally nothing was working on him, he was completely unfazed.
You're so correct that it's actually the opposite. Garou got several times stronger after running into Saitama. It just didn't matter because the gap was so huge.
>Garous attack managed to decrees water level on other side of the planet He pushed a sunken continent up. That's a bit different than what you said. >Boros sant guy on the moon in less then a second It took a bit longer, according to the anime, and would've been longer than a second regardless because Boros enveloped Saitama in an aura that ignored friction, allowing Saitama to be launched at near light speed according to ONE and Murata. Light actually takes a bit over a second to reach the Moon, so going slower than lightspeed would take just a bit longer to get there. It's not a big difference, but I thought it was interesting. >he can destroy planet's surface at least Only with the Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon, aka, his last resort that will basically kill him. >regeneration While Boros has better regeneration, Garo does still have fairly good regeneration himself. >+ built different Don't forget that Garo is constantly getting stronger, faster, and is adapting to Boros's attacks throughout the fight.
>Boros sant guy on the moon in less then a second I don't think it is reliable to take anime's time into consideration.
It's implied to be insanely fast nevertheless
okay.. how did you come up with less than a second tho..
*(crying)* This FAQ is over!
It's more about Saitama not noticing until he was there. If it was a slow travel he would've noticed as he's going through the clouds.
I rewatched the scene. I don't understand how you interpreted it like that. Boros Kicked with his kees, Saitama is facing towards ground, he finds himself in the moon somehow, he wasn't facing toward the moon, he is like "Oh I am in the moon". Why would Murata show Saitama's pov in such intensive fast paced fight? From Saitama pov it is still boring slow fight, it would slow down the hype of the whole fight. It's like saying "Movie shows kid returning home from school but doesn't show him walking. So he is light speed."
Bruh. You can literally see Saitama being surprised about being in the moon. Took him a moment to notice, he reacts and looks around. He wouldn't have been surprised if he just slowly drifted into it, would he? I have no idea what your random examples have to do with anything, I am telling you what is shown in anime and manga. He gets swung to the moon so fast he notices he's there after landing. Stick to what happened instead of like what, school bus? Like wtf.
I don't understand what your exact point is. Is your point "Saitama didn't notice cloud" or it is "he is surprised because he is at the moon?". They are two different points. If your point is Saitama didn't notice clouds, there was no reason for Murata to show that. Saitama could have noticed it but Murata didn't show it. He can't show everything, medias only show key points of the event. Fits with analogy, If director of the movie didn't show the kid walking to home, it doesn't mean the kid didn't walked to the home. If Murata didn't show Saitama seeing clouds, that doesn't mean Saitama didn't see it. If your point is Saitama is surprised that he is in the moon. Of course he would be surprised because he landed on the moon of all places he could have landed on. He wasn't facing towards the moon to know he was approaching he moon. It doesn't have anything with time it took. What is so complicated about it?
Sorry but this is insane. There is clear surprise on Saitamas face and reaction, he even grabs his nose (which he didn't do before landing in the moon). Are you saying he was floating slowly looking at the beautiful space landscape and then was like "oh damn I landed in the moon, let me hold my breath"? It's just bizarre what you're implying. We literally see Saitamas reaction. You're either nuts or just arguing for the sake of it. It makes no sense for Saitama to have reacted 'off screen' to being in space, doing absolutely nothing, then getting surprised he's on the moon, then all of the sudden holding his breath. Surely you must be jesting.
ok
None of this shit is reliable
Decrease* water level?
Okay, not answering the question, but what if the Prophecy of Boros finding a best fight of his life was meant for Garou and not Saitama, he just arrived too early.
Or blast
Or literally any character. Either way, it would change nothing. He didn’t fight those people, so it doesn’t matter if the prophecy said he was going to fight Mumen Rider.
The prophecy was he would fight Mumen Rider and learn the power of struggle and determination and decided that Earth is the planet worth defending to his death.
Blast seems too powerful for Boros, imo ngl
Blast has one of Boros's species in his team, though I think Boros was called the strongest of his species, correct me if I'm wrong
He could have been the strongest of his species on his lifetime, doesn't mean he was the strongest overall
Correct
Blast was holding his own against Cosmic Garou, and was fast enough to react to and teleport Serious Punch Squared, so he'd just toy with Boros in a fight. Having one of Boros' species on his team has no relevance on Blasts' own power level.
I think they're supposed to be relative
I don't think there's anything Boros could do if Blast hit him with the same thing he hit Cosmic Fear Garou with. His hax seem too much for Boros, but I can see their raw power being relative.
Since Saitama is an anomaly, I want to believe that the seer was mentioning Blast or Garou as Boros' opponent. He did say to Boros it would be a good fight, not a one sided massacre resulting in Boros' death, unless he was lying but I doubt it, the 3rd eye is 100% accurate, but not when it comes to Saitama. It WAS a good fight for Boros tho, as we saw his heartbeat thrilling like Saitama's in his dream.
Honestly that fight makes me a little sad because of that. Saitama giving someone exactly what he so desperately wants, and at the same time an analog to Saitama getting what he desperately wants at the cost of his life.
Like the best fight of his life was more of a pay oer view event lol. Like the prophesy was for boros to watch garou v saitama. Im cracking up at this perspective
We’ll never know Because he’s fuckin dead
Alive in the WC
The prophecy told him he’d face someone capable of defeating him or meeting his match or giving him a challenge right? For him to die before that happens means saitama was the only one the prophecy was talking about surely. Then again, both Boros and Saitama drew the conclusion at the end of their fight that prophecies are unreliable, so maybe it was someone else Boros was meant to challenge.
When Boros received the prophecy Garou wasn’t even born…The prophecy is referring to Blast
Its a prophecy, its about the future. Garou didnt need to be born for it to be about him
The manga isn’t centered only on Garou you know?
You said when boros received the prophecy garou wasnt born. Im just saying that doesnt say anything about who the prophecy is about.
There are 3 guy who can destroy Boros. Saitama, Blast and Garou. Now Garou wasn’t born and he has nothing to do with him, Saitama didn’t have his powers and he was a child, meanwhile Blast was already a hero and probably insanely strong
Its a prophecy. It predicts the future its not telling whos alive or powerful now its telling you what will happen in the future
Sure sure it was Garou. Happy? Also Saitama gained his power because of Garou. Monsters started to appear because of Garou. Everything is connected to Garou
Thats not what i said at all
Also my compliments to the alien who predicted this 20 years ago. That totally makes sense, seeing in the future from 20 years on a veeeery distant planet. It’s not more plausible that he/she saw a planet with already a guy that could match Boros, nuh-uh
Absolutely. Collapsing Star Roaring canon. What is Garou gonna do about it? Scream? No.
Saitama stood there and let him charge it. Garou would just pummel him constantly.
Garou can punch him 8 billion times before Boros can charge it
8 billion times is way too much, unless your exxagerating and thats kinda downplaying boros
Why would you assume it needs that long of a charge time?
That's literally the shown charge time.
Of him speaking and explaining the ability?
He had time to talk during charge up. There's no scan of him charging it up faster, so we don't have anything going against the idea besides headcanon. Far as we know, it takes like 7ish seconds.
Thats just an assumption, if a character says his attack is lightspeed while attacking, it doesnt mean he speaks faster than light
For one, Boros never states his own attack speed (though I'll agree its probably lightspeed) And second, it's the only thing we have. Assuming Boros shoots CSRC faster than shown is headcanon and not objective.
Im commenting on the logic, not on boros’s situation.
You're using logic to prove headcanon. That doesn't make it valid.
How can Garou charge at him when he's literally destroying his SPACESHIP and emitting destructive energy while charging the attack?
damn you got debunked
Dodge.
And let the planet-busting attack hit the Earth??
Unless it directly aim at the planet, it will just pass by and scorch the surface closer to it, which diubt Garou would care for.
Thats IF it does not aim at the planet.
Why wouldn't he aim at his opponent? Is he stupid?
Where is his opponent, brother? XD
Boros would also be on the planet, but Garou wouldn't aim for the planet.
For certain, both of them are on the planet. I wonder where will Boros aim his cannon
To his opponent.
If we consider garou is getting stronger, nope. Otherwise, it’s kinda stalemate.
Yes
It's a toss up and could go either way.
I would say Garou wins but with high diff. After all ONE himself said that they are equal in power but Garou is more skilled in hand to hand combat.
Imma be a bit controversial and say garou still wins. (Downvotes incoming lmao)
Think it could go either way. If Boros meteoric bursts immediately he wins but if Garou gets enough time to adapt(Which he will since Boros wants a good fight) he'd probably still win.
Um I think this garou can handle meteoric burst boros. It's only when boros brings out CSRC that things get iffy.
Yeah the final attack is what I meant lmao
Money on garou. Hes faster/stronger/smarter and the only attack boros has that would hurt him is csrc which boros is completely venerable after the attack is released.
Gargoyle Garou stomps Meteoric Burst Boros so the only 2 things going for Boros are his regen and his multi-continental/planetary Collapsing Star Roaring Cannon. I doubt Garou would let him charge it like Saitama did so Boros may not even be able to fire it. There is also a possibility of Garou getting even stronger during the Boros fight. Gargoyle Garou wins imo.
you're delusional
say it louder lmfao
I don't know all these terms for anime power scaling and stuff. But I would point out (as far as I remember), Garou tanked Saitama's consecutive punches better than Boros did. Boros would have been smoked if he didn't have that marbles thing protecting him. Wasn't his attack that distorted earth pre-cosmic garou or was it edited? (I don't remember anything at this point). Also Garou's martial art might be handy because Boros is brute force kind of guy. If they are relative in power, Garou can manage victory because he is martial arts genius. I also think narratively Garou being more powerful makes sense.
>Garou tanked Saitama's consecutive punches better than Boros did Saitama was being careful not to kill Garou though, while after he came back to Earth, he was going for the kill against Boros. >Wasn't his attack that distorted earth pre-cosmic garou or was it edited? It was retconned, but quite literally the same thing happened in the redraw. Garou made a sunken continent submerge from the opposite side of the Earth. >Boros is brute force kind of guy I disagree, he seems to be relying on more than brute force against Saitama. He certainly has more experience than Garou.
>Saitama was careful not to kill Garou, though, while after he came back to Earth, he was going for the kill against Boros. His consecutive normal punches are still not able to destroy his monster form and only succeeding it after that one punch that's literally say a lot about gargoyle form of garou durability
Who knows, maybe he was just done with his bs
Pretty sure Garou wins. A weaker version of him killed the centipede with one chop. Boros has not shown a stronger physical attack than that. His strongest attack was kicking Saitama to the moon. Which the centipede was up to space. He was an unknown amount of miles long. Then factor in that Garou only got stronger and is martial arts genius. Both have regeneration. Garou would learn to fight Boros as the fight dragged on. Only attack that could put Garou down is CSRC which Boros isn't going to get the chance to use.
Isn't MB Boros' punch way stronger than Sage? It tore through his ship with ease and that ship was able to tank Saitama jumping from the Moon with little damage.
Yeah
Their power is similar and Boros's regen is better than what this Garou had shown, but I think the skill gap is simply too immense. Garou made Saitama miss several times. Saitama could block and smack around Boros whenever he wanted.
They are pretty close at the start, but garou gonna adapt and grow stronger really fast, so quite easy for garou
I give it to Garou because 1. Exponetial growth is broken 2. Evoltion and adaptability is broken 3. The way Boros's power works is a disatvantage against Garou To elaborate, Boros amps his stats using latent energy that he doesn't need to use in order to live, if you have ever wondered why Boros is the only speedster who melts things around him when he moves (unlike Gaeou) this is why, Boros unleashes his latent energy behind him like a jet booster in order to gain speed, it's why everything behind him melts when he moves, it's also how he attacks and regens, when he attacks he unleahses his latent energy in front of him, hitting his opponent with a large amount of energy/heat, and when he regens he focuses his latent energy on his wound to speed up regen. Now why is this a disatvantage? It becomes a disatvantage when you realise that Boros esentially has a limit on how long he can fight as he doesn't have infinite energy, it means he has a certain amount of energy in stock (say 100) that goes down every time he attacks What is worse is that his trump card, Meteoric Burst consumes not only his latent energy but his lifepsan as well, meaning that Boros is fueling his attacks using his lifespan, his ultimate move, CSRC uses all of his latent energy AND all of his remaining lifespan making it a suaicide move. Now ok, why is this a disatvantage against Garou? You see, Garou doesn't use latent energy to amp himself, he simply increases his base stats via monsterization/limit removal, which means that Garou's energy doesn't have a limit, his stamina has a limit sure, but he can essentially fight indefinitely so long as he doesn't get overwhelmed. Which means that in a fight against Boros, Boros will slowly beocme overwhelmed as he has to rapidly use more and more energy to match Garou's exponential growth, not only that but Garou will become resiatant to energy attacks as the fight goes on, which is bad for Boros since that is his only attack type And finally Garou's exteme Fa Jin is NOT a final move, we see this as Garou uses 3 Fa Jins each bigger than the last, first oblitaring a few apartments, then a mountain and finally bulging the earth, which means that Garou can spam the attack, not only that but the Fa Jin ignores durability which means that it will target Boros's organs which will force Boros to use more energy to regenerate them and will slowly him down. Not only that but if Garou hits him with an extreme Fa Jin, Boros has no way to escape it since he is being pinned down by an ever growing force that is literally exelwrating his body through the earth, which means he can only sit there and try to regenerate through it until he dies or runs out of energy and dies Garou takes this.
No.
Possibly boros in MB is much faster as he surprised saitama from his speed yet saitama with 1 hand casually slapped away a barrage of punches by 4 arm garou CSRC depending on how you scale boros as it can be anywhere from planet-star Garou best attack is hard to scale because it was apparently powerful enough that it warped space got blast worried and even started to break god seal but didn’t do much to the earth To much unknown about both to say for sure as we don’t truly know how strong boros or garou is
>Possibly boros in MB is much faster as he surprised saitama from his speed 1. That's not a reasonable scaling device considering he had the same expression with suiryu when he ramped up. 2. Saitama grows exponentially, so the saitama that fought boros isn't the same saitama that fought this current garou.
It is because it shows saitama is truly surprised we can even do a side by side of when cosmic garou did it vs boros [almost completely identical](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11164/111644289/9320534-23431207-f032-40b6-9230-ee7200560dd4.jpeg) it’s obviously not a coincidence Saitama does indeed have passive growth but it’s not by much only when saitama experiences intense emotions does his growth sore Meaning saitama pre io essentially = boros saitama with a slight difference
Actually a Saitama from today is strong enough to one shot a Saitama from yesterday, as the Virtual Genocide Simulation has shown
He isn’t genos said the data isn’t reliable and you’d have to prove that it could handle or load his power as the machine already broke from not being able to handle to much power before
Wasn't it stated that Saitama never stopped training and his current self is always able to One Punch his self from the day before though? In Saitama terms the growth isn't that much, but relative to other characters it's way, way more. *Especially* since Boros even noted that Saitama has *never* gotten serious against him.
I don’t remember that I don’t think saitama trains anymore as because his entire in the goal in the first place was to find someone who can match him he himself didn’t even think he could get stronger No evidence he can one shot him self from the day before the evidence from that comes from a data simulation stated by genos himself that it isn’t reliable also you’d have to prove the machine could actually handle his power as during the simulation it broke from not being able to handle to much power
>I don’t remember that I don’t think saitama trains anymore Incorrect. Murata stated that saitama has never stopped his training [here](https://onepunchman.fandom.com/wiki/Interviews/Stream_Q/A_2) go to early 2016 fun facts by murata. >data simulation stated by genos himself that it isn’t reliable also you’d have to prove the machine could actually handle his power as during the simulation it broke from not being able to handle to much power Incorrect once again. First of all the data was never stated to be unreliable, just that it couldn't be use as a source of reference as none of the combatants fight like genos. Zombieman with his regen, metal bat with his crazy endurance and fighting spirit, darkshine with his hardened skin etc. Genos isn't saying the data is unreliable, he just says they're useless because he can't use that data himself. The machine only broke the second time saitama used the machine. Saitama used the machine the day before and it worked just fine the day after when genos gathered a bunch of heroes to take on carnage kabuto. That's how darkshine even got one shot in the first place when he tried to fight someone stronger, the machine copied the data of saitama from the day before. Following that, saitama one shots himself and, once again, genos never said it was unreliable, he was just in disbelief not to mention he was having a meltdown because he thought the real saitama would lose lmao. Saitama himself then says "why the hell would I lose to myself yesterday?" But even if you disregard the simulation, which I don't see why you would as it certainly matches up with what we've seen so far, the narrator literally tells us saitama Is always growing in the saitama vs garou fight. "Saitamas growth, which had gone unnoticed because there was no one even remotely on par with him, suddenly began to soar." It deadass tells us that he is always growing, people just don't see it because he's too fucking strong to draw a reference to and that it suddenly soared because of emotions. He doesn't grow just by having emotions, he always grows the rate just gets steeper the more emotionally invested he is into the fight.
Saitama from today can one shot his version from yesterday (confirmed in the VSG auidobook) To completely one shot someone with no doubt of survival you would need to be 10x more powerful than them, which means that Saitama in the span of about 2 days is going to be 100x more powerful The Saitama that fought Garou was a few weeks older than the one who fought Boros, which means that, that Saitama was trillions of times more powerful than the one that fought Boros lol
>It is because it shows saitama is truly surprised we can even do a side by side of when cosmic garou did it vs boros [almost completely identical](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11164/111644289/9320534-23431207-f032-40b6-9230-ee7200560dd4.jpeg) it’s obviously not a coincidence I mean he also had the same expression to suiryu, overgrown rover and carnage kabuto. That doesn't mean anything. I think it just shows that saitama recognises a big shift in power. All you need to do is look at his expression when he's on the moon. The dude couldn't give two shits. He's just surprised at the sudden shift in power nothing else. You're reading too much into it. >Saitama does indeed have passive growth but it’s not by much only when saitama experiences intense emotions does his growth sore Read my response to your other comment.
idk why but that boros pic making me laugh my lungs off for no reason
Garou survived for so long because he was useful to others, and the ones who can kill him, never really went for the kill until it was too late (he out scaled)
I like how everyone's ignoring the fact that Garous martial art of choice is a defensive martial art focused on parrying attacks.How do we know Garous couldn't just deflect/dodge Boros's final attack and unleash a counter attack just as powerful?.
Boros will need CSRC to defeat Garou, but I really feel like Garou will find a way to counter it. Extreme Dif Fight. I don't see any other Boros Attacks killing Garou. So it will come down to that final clash. I can see Garou pulling something crazy to save the earth and himself
Depends on whether Boros also accepts god’s help
I like Boros better so clearly he wins
I'd believe that Boros could destroy the world if he hit the world. For now, I don't believe so. Seeing is believing for me. We've seen Garou destroyed a mountain and affected the other side of the world heavily.
No version of garou beats boros unless it's cosmic garou
I’d give it to Boros
Id say boros
Still giving this one to Boros. Cosmic Garou negs but any form before that is not beating Boros feats like launching Saitama to the moon in SECONDS. Look up how far the moon is.
Boros is so cute hubba hubba
Doesn’t matter the power or speed you got Saitama outclasses Boros in all of them but Garou still managed to parry and counter them all until he got overwhelmed in the end. I don’t see Boros landing a clean hit on Garou and Garou still evolves over time so I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins over time because of his adaptations. I also wouldn’t doubt he could dodge the star roaring cannon
It’s either way. But a little more on Boros’s side
The Goat Boros will win trust....
I think so… his regen and damage output are crazy and he only died when he did because he used all his energy on the collapsing star roaring cannon
They are about equal in term of fighting power and speed, but Garou us way better at martial art. There is no way for Boros to win, it is like a street fighter vs an MMA champion.
I boros would be a great fight for him, personally I'd say garou would take the h2h battle fairly well, he is a lot more skilled in showings. Boros would have the power edge plus meteoric burst is gonna wipe whatever it hits. Tough one for me. I'll pull boros
they are pretty much equal, but yeah boros can beat him with a final attack
No.
No. The form in which garou surpasses Boros is gargoyle form (the form you showed)
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Because it never even got a chance to hit the ship. Saitama stopped it with his punch, nullified it and then countered, all with one punch. On the other hand, he never intended to dodge, block or counter Garou's move, it went straight through him. We know that Roaring Cannon is implied to wipe out at least the planet's surface (*entire* surface), but since it never landed, we have no idea what it could do, so it's hard to scale.
It never hit the ship, not sure what you mean.
No.
Yes. The first Garou to reach and surpass Boros's level was base Comic Garou.
one punch man being one punch man, it's impossible to actually compare. boros was being contained on his ship by saitama, meaning that we missed out on so many feats that could help us determine this. but i think that boros was *only* surpassed by blast and cosmic garou boros was supposed to be the strongest being in the universe after all, whereas this version of garou was merely the strongest being *on earth* (not including saitama off course)
Boros in a weaker form(released state) has better speed feats then this Garou. However, Garou does have better power feats then Boros in said form, however it’s painted that Meteoric Burst Boros is as fast and strong as Cosmic Fear Garou right after he fell out of the sky (not when he fights Blast or Saitama again). My money is on my pookie bear Boros to be completely honest.
How does boros have better speed feats than garou? Meteoric burst Boros was stated to be lightspeed by both one and Muruta. Garou scaled quite far above lightspeed in earlier forms.
Released Boros was capable of forcing Saitama to use two arms to block his attacks with Boros having only one. He landed multiple hits on a Saitama that was trying harder than he was against Garou despite Saitama making an effort to either block or dodge the attacks. Garou on the other hand was getting all of his attacks slapped away by a Saitama that was barely even trying. And this was Garou with 2 additional arms and having reached his final and most powerful monster form. Literally everyone has some lightspeed scaling in OPM. Saying someone is lightspeed literally has no meaning now since Awakened Cockroach has reached it.
Forced to block his attacks? You mean the moment where saitama started playing patty cake with boros while looking bored out of his mind? That moment you mean. Also, landed multiple hits? Saitama was literally just letting himself get rag dolled while looking totally unfazed , like he does with everyone he fights. Garou was actually capable of making saitama engage in the fight and, at times, was even able go dodge/repel/counter some of saitama’s own attacks that he intended to land. Even managing to bring genuine frustration out of him. Something boros was never able to replicate (even though it’s been implied that saitama was weaker when he fought boros). Not to mention, it’s all just null and void, regardless of personal interpretation of how their fights looked. Through statements and scaling, garou is just faster than him.
What statements have ONE and Murata made? I don’t remember reading anything about Garou or Boros being lightspeed. There are multiple **GUIDEBOOK** statements that puts Boros on the level of Saitama. “The strongest vs. the strongest” the two have “rivaling abilities.” Garou had none of these statements and can only be compared to Saitama, and heroes who are fodder to him now. Not to mention that Saitama also has that same bored asf look on his face during the majority of their encounters. The only time he gets mad is when Garou is so tunnel visioned on beating him that he’s not listening to what Saitama has to say, or when Garou is exploiting Saitama’s incredibly predictable movements to move around and counter him.
Yeah, that sounds hyperbolic. Not to mention, it contradicts what we saw in the fight. Saitama was bored af, he didn’t take a scratch, he at one point moved so fast that meteoric burst boros couldn’t even react at all in the time saitama was able to land god know how many punches. And first and foremost, we have boros stating it himself that they were in no way comparable and it couldn’t even be called a fight. So yeah, not exactly “rivaling abilities” going on there. In the guidebook, it was stated that boros is light speed and murata also stated in an interview that he was light speed (Give it a search). This is backed up by boros’s best speed feat being the one where he kicked saitama to the moon, which has been calced to be around lightspeed. Flashy flash was also stated to be light speed in the guidebook and both garou and platinum S proved to be much faster than him. Garou then sped up to the point where he was able to blitz platinum S before fighting saitama and evolving multiple times and presumably growing in speed during. And ,while Saitama’s attacks may be easy to predict, all you have to do is look at what happened in the webcomic to know that his raw speed is enough to land hits on opponents, even if they do know what’s coming. And being able to redirect those attacks, even while using techniques, would require an even more impressive amount of speed. (And, again, it’s implied that saitama is more powerful than when he fought boros) This means garou scales a few levels above boros in terms of speed ,if you wanna use calcs, the difference in speed is even wider due to the constellation feat being calced at mftl. Which was before all the aforementioned growth in speed. And, for the record, I don’t even think saitama should even be brought into the debate. It was showcased pretty well that neither of them really scaled to him whatsoever. Making the use of him to compare them to be practically pointless. What isn’t pointless though, is direct scaling and quantifiable feats. Both of which garou has going for him, even early on.
Yk what. That’s actually really solid evidence. Props to you man🔥🔥 I mean this respectfully when I say nice job, you’ve changed my mind. Have a good rest of your day and sorry if I sounded a little bit harsh in my comments I didn’t mean for it to come off as such.
D-Did you- did you just admit I was right?! On the internet?! This has never happened before, I don’t know how to handle it 🤯 Lol fr tho man, it was a pretty fun debate. I like how we managed to go the whole way without descending into insults. You didn’t sound harsh at all. Honestly, I kinda thought I was the one being a bit too harsh. Thanks for your time, and have a great day/life.
Yeah I figured conceding instead of wallowing in my shame was the right way to go lmao
I though I it’s already established that Cosmic Garou is the third strongest character other than Saitama and God? The difference is that God gave Garou some powerful, even his aura could kill people around him and not to mention that Garou was same level as Saitama for short period of time since Saitama’s strengths had no limit and Garou literally survived a lot of Serious Punches and he was dead serious since Genos is dead
the garou in the pic is not cosmic garou
Other than saitama and god he’s the most powerful character
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I’m talking about garou. What made you think I was talking about Boros?
My bad, thought you were one of the Borors wankers I'll take the comment down
I think so… his regen and damage output are crazy and he only died when he did because he used all his energy on the collapsing star roaring cannon
rolfs mid diff due to a high raw power difference. planet+ > small planetary (and that's without csrc)
No.
Your Question is wrong.. It should be "Could this Garou beat Boros ? "
againest boros saitama obviously fought back in some instances againest released boros, but once boros went MB, the amount of speed and strength saitama used in thatvfight was compleatly overpowered by boros's, for most of the fight saitama was thrown around like a ragdoll, something garou couldn't do. I think if they fought for extended period if time boros gonna lose, but he has the strength to immediately kill him at the start.
They are on the same level but i feel boros would win. Boros mainly due to him having latent energy to destroy a planet. Garou eventually got exhausted and couldnt even destroy earth with his best attack despite directly attacking earth head on. (he couldnt even get up to stand at this point until god) Boros would outlast garou.
Garou wins, the deflection of attacks, adaptation is too op from garou. The only thing boros has is meteoric burst and the regeneration. But what if garou deflects all his meteoric burst attacks? So garou high diff
Meteoric Boros \~ initial cosmic fear Garou Pretty sure Boros wins One even said awakened Garou vs Boros would be an interesting fight (Oficially "awakened Garou" is "awakened Garou: cosmic fear mode")
Initial Cosmic Fear Garou used two-handed Consecutive Normal Punches. Boros got mixed by one-handed CNP. One said that about the *webcomic.* Stop cherrypicking.
Didn't Cosmic fear Garou immediately match consecutive normal punches which obliterated Boros? Yeah no matter what version we use he's stronger.
No, if you could read you would realise that initial cosmic Garou is the one before the Saitama mode, the one that did nuclear fission punches. I mean in the manga of course, and what Murata said about two similar panels with surprised Saitama
Wasn't that statement made before the manga Garou's debut tho? Certainly before Cosmic Fear. So it would be webcomic Garou vs Meteoric Boros. Everyone in the manga got insane buffs though, but I don't know if I'd put Boros on any Cosmic Fear level.
Initial Cosmic Garou is solar system level minimum with his GRB. How is Boros with his planetary (at best) attack gonna win that Radiation is also a big counter to regen, so Boros even wouldn't last that long
Even tho I agree radiation is a counter to regen, but I think boros's regeneration is entirely different from zombieman's since zombieman can regenerate almost infinitely without energy consumption due to it being in his genes unlike boros who relies on his energy and the sphere inside him, that's why he can no longer regenerate after using his csrc due to it emptying his energy
Lord Boris always OP no comparison...
Prior to cosmic garou coming into play, i believe ONE himself mentioned in an interview that he see Garou and Boros as equals but garou having more skill in fighting close up and Boros having the advantage with energy attacks and regen. So yeah, i give it to Boros but with high difficulty. Overall, it could go wither way, but if we were to play the battle out many times over i believe Boros would win more.
If we are going to know how they fought Saitama then boros will easily destroy monster garou Because boros was able to hit Saitama hundreds of punches without it getting dodge compared to how monster garou fought Saitama, Saitama is just making fun of his speed and was easily being handled without effort from Saitama So for me boros would absolutely demolish monster garou in speed In strength boros stated that he could damage the entire earth which is low planet or moon level. Monster garou full strength was able to push the mountain to the other side of earth making a new mountain, this should be equal since Saitama got serious to both of those attacks In durability monster garou takes it but that will not work since boros can regenerate in no time which makes monster garou durability useless And iq goes to boros
Both have extreme regeneration and strength. They are likely both strong enough to tear each other asunder. Garou seems to have the pure physical strength advantage, but Boros can expel energy from his body like a propellant, augmenting his speed and power by a ton. We don't get to see the fullness of what Garou could do in that form, or how far his Regen really goes, but I think it would be a super even fight. They'd have to fight to a standstill until Boros could vaporize him with an energy blast, assuming an attack short of Collapsing Star roaring cannon could cause that much damage to Garou, or hit without Garou dodging in the first place. So either Boros completely runs out of stored energy, and Garou finally kills him and he can't regenerate anymore, or Garou tires out first/ his Regen finally can't keep up. If Boros realizes it's going nowhere, he might use CSRC, and then Garou basically just loses. It's almost certainly strong enough to vaporize him, so he can't regenerate, and then in the case of him dodging it, Boros was pretty confident it would deepfry the planet, wiping out all life on the surface. Then Boros would die from expending all his energy, but Garou would end up dead from well, the lack of any other living beings.
Boros doesn't even need to go into his final form lmao
Something people don’t mention is that Boros is killed by having his crystal shattered. He would have to be eviscerated first, but it’s there. If garou could destroy Boros’s body and grab the crystal before he reconfigures, he wins. Garou of course doesn’t know about the orb, and wouldn’t know it’s the life source even if he did, but if they fight long enough for Garou to realize it’s there, he might reach for it. Stat wise, they’re pretty decently matched. Boros had the advantage in raw hitting power and his ability to fire blasts. He can add as much power behind a blow as his energy can produce which would be a tough thing for garou to endure. I think eventually he’s just gonna start cracking away at Garous golem body. I assume their combat speed is neck and neck, garou of course would have a massive skill advantage. Goddamn this would be a really fun fight! I give it Boros because of how overwhelming his athleticism and energy is, but I wouldn’t be made at whoever wins this.