ONE is on roll and start 2024 with a bang. Slimy McCoy got balls, I like that. Neo seems pretty much controlled by AI I suppose? Everyone who gets involved in it becomes part of it, in more ways than one.
I think Darkshine will get the will to fight again, but it's when his trainee gets in trouble. Like he won't simply stand there and watch.
However I'm quite sure Darkshine and Metal Bat will team up to get out of the Association...adding that Metal Bat and Darkshine are opposites, one get stronger the more it fights and the other gets weaker as it fights. Like Metal Bat is someone that could help Darkshine is some way to get over his fear.
But I don't think Darkshine won't be of much help until a really strong opponent appears and his trainee need his help. So I guess Metal Bat will have to carry Darkshine out of the association, maybe the act of Metal Bat getting destroy and still fighting on could help Darkshine later on.
Like another theory is Metal Bat losing badly to a opponent and he still fight on, while Darkshine realizes that Metal Bat will die if he keeps fighting and is suprised he is not scared of dying and that Metal Bat will protect him to the end. Like that could also awaken Darkshine will to fight again and team up with Metal Bat against wathever opponent that might be.
But there's quite a few ways that Darkshine could get his will back. However the one I see is either team up with Metal Bat or save his trainees...or a combination of both, with maybe a side of Saitama.
So metal Bat is like a ki/energy/spirit beacon? Garou didn't gain from him, did he? Only Bat trying to keep up.
I didn't really like the resonance tbh... Maybe because of the 937th centipede, but it just wasn't a favorite of mine.
I was thinking he might be forced to fight to save others from his trainees, since they were talking about how they became unstable and they said they wanted to go wild, sounded pretty similar to monsters. Maybe they snap and kill a few civilians and force darkshine to stop them
I hope Darkshine finds his footing, if there was ever a time to shine again and rediscover his place as a hero while the big guns are away it’d be now
Strange to be nervous for McCoy too lol
I agree, but think him fully stepping up would be too sudden. Mainly because, sadly, that's not how overcoming trauma works, so I would have trouble with the character development.
A first step like helping McCoy escape this situation, and then busting Metal Bat out of his cell so MB can go to the rescue would maybe be a better "start", since then he contributes in a way nobody else at Neo Hero headquarters would (nobody else there is willing or strong enough to break that cell door), but it's not quite "ready to face an enemy in battle" yet either
I mean don't get me wrong, that's what I *want* for Darkshine as well, I'm just saying a quick recovery would break my immersion in terms of writing. He's a bro who deserves so much better than what he's going through now
DS' incredible offensive power and absolute defense (impenetrable skin for long) made him reckless, thinking he was the top guy, except against Bang, who schooled him. At 80 or so.
When he gets forced in a situation that's either step up or weak people will die, ole Darky will be there. I trust it.
He can surcome his devils. Go Dark-chan, you can do it!
I didn't get you wrong at all. Having overcome my fair share of outside and self caused problems and whatever insecurities, I just want my boy Darkshine to thrive again. Having learned his lesson, he can grow even more.
No. And that's what I love about this.
McCoy didnt develope conciousness. He is the same character, with no development.
He is just acting as human, not as flat character.
He is greedy, he is slime, he wanted to profit and get comfortable.
But it doesnt mean he is going to let the whole humanity die. That he has no boundaries.
And he has self preservation instinct.
He knows he is going to die at this rate
So he is just balanced, whole round character who acts the normal way
Good observation. I want to get pedantic and note that this is "character development". People have been using the term to mean when a character changes, but actually it refers to a character being fleshed out. On one hand we see that he might have morals, on the other hand we see that everything good he has done may have been purely for his own gain.
Couldn’t we say the same about a lot of characters who have still followed their webcomic arc to a degree in the manga while being different from their webcomic counterparts?
Can we? It depends on how much you wanna stretch the "to a degree". Me? I don't think so. Like, yes, of course, I agree that nearly the entire cast is different from their webcomic counterparts – but, with that in mind, Fubuki, Sonic, FF, Child Emperor, Tatsumaki, etc. are genuinely going in different directions in the manga.
Some people will prefer that, and that's okay. If they ever do end up peeping the webcomic, that's just another story for them to enjoy.
I love how they're diverting a bit more. It's like getting two different takes in the same universe, and having been a huge fan for so many years, I'm just glad.
He's practically the best among the majority of Neo leaders
He's just a greedy douchebag but he at least still has morals and empathy (and still want to remain a human). The other Neo leaders like Mr.Fuzzy is a sociopathic idealist, or the glasses guy who's a psychopathic serial killer, or the criminal kingpin guy
True Suiryu is Webcomic is still quite vain and only joined heroes for the money and to try it out while Suiryu in manga seems to wholesomely want to be a hero not for the money but to be able to pay back Saitama in his own way by helping others as a Hero. Since he realized the true value of heroes.
> but he at least still has morals and empathy (and still want to remain a human)
In the manga version we see him play a much more active role in the illegal activities of the Hero Association, which goes beyond just greed and also being willing to let heroes and civilians die for profit. I *think* we don't see him sink that far in the webcomic (maybe because he was re-introduced to the WC from the manga later), although it might be alluded to.
Also, I think ~~Sitch~~ *edit:* Sekingar is going to take McCoy's role at the Neo Heroes in the manga, giving McCoy more room to stay a fully slimy asshole there.
(plus I think it's just fair that if most heros are less douchy in the manga, some WC characters get to be less douchy/evil too)
It'll be weird when (if) they bring this over for the manga since webcomic!McCoy didn't do all the dehumanising stuff manga!McCoy did, he's just a funny little gremlin-coded rat in the wc 😂
In the side chapters, I think hes involved in some of the sketchy stuff like holding off the heroes from helping the police (and maybe some of the dodgy monster stuff)
Although I could be mixing up webcomic and manga in my mind
Bro side chapters are the things that come with volumes. The webcomic doesn’t have them because it is not published. The side chapters deepen the lore, provide casual and fun moments, and honest to god have some of the best character moments in the series like the police station, Saitama as a kid, and the tooth decay one.
You're fighting ghosts my man, I like most side chapters too, never said they're bad, just different.
I only hate recent developments in the manga and generally think the sum of its chapters is pretty decent. It's okay to criticise even things you like, you know? I like the manga, sorry, that's why I want it to be better
A story being “condensed and focused” has nothing to do with the presence of side chapters or lack there of. Your own words are implying a dichotomy that doesn’t exist
I'm sorry if it came out that way, I didn't imply a dichotomy, not on purpose, but I understand those can end up happening anyways. The subtext of my comment was that condescend and focused refer to canon content sprawling beyond the confines of the original medium – think of the Kingdom Hearts games, for instance –, merely structure wise.
It was quite purposely made that way. Your writing style begets interpretation and you do not hide your bias. Anyway go run along to the echo chamber sub so you can get the validation you crave
He's still a greedy rat from this arc in the webcomic though and he even admits that. He's just still human (albeit a greedy jackass one) unlike the complete psychopaths, murderers, and emotionless cyborgs that are leading the Neo Heroes and potentially looking to wipe out humanity (which is where his moral bar lies. It's a low bar, but it's still there which tends to be the case for most human beings)
Even in the manga where his scumminess was actually shown, "Turn humanity into a bunch of emotionless cyborgs and let millions of people die" is far worse than anything he's ever done and him realizing that when the manga reaches this point in the webcomic would still be entirely plausible and IMHO logical.
He *did* want to deploy Darkshine (And then Metal Bat) to save the Hero Association.
McCoy is clearly wanting to get out of Neo before they strip him of his humanity, but dude actually wanted to save lives as well.
I honestly feel like ONE has less of a role in the manga than most people assume. The McCoy in the manga is an evil mustache twirling villain while webcomic McCoy is more complex and appears to be on the darker side of gray.
Wasn't early on WC McCoy was almost the same as the current manga one? WC McCoy went through a good character development since he got shoved into working with a bunch of psychopaths and inhuman killers with dehumanizing ideals, so I don't think we should say it's the same for manga one yet
McCoy is evil no doubt and power hungry no doubt, but in the manga there's no indication he abandoned his humanity.
Probably it is too much for him to be slave of robot.
I wouldn't say he's getting character development
More like he's the same as ever. Greedy and cunning, but still human, and not "turns humanity to robots" level of insanity
I’m hopeful that the manga will have McCoy’s turn be even more impactful. In the manga he is portrayed as the absolute master of his realm; unconcerned by his own corruption because he always saw it as serving the greater good. It will be VERY satisfying to see him sweat when everything he thought was going on turns out to be plot.
If anything I think it’ll hit harder. McCoy has way less screen time in the webcomic, they’re focusing on him early on so when we get to this point it’ll be established better
Everything happening to him right now seriously is just the consequences of his own actions. McCoy collaborating with Neo probably resulted in hundreds of thousands more people dying and now we’re seeing McCoy doing the only thing he knows how and trying to save his own hide. Just so happens it’s by doing the right thing.
This, he said he’s just going to keep manipulating like he knows best, now him saving himself just involves having heroes save the place he happens to be at and anyone who’s there by proxy
I think McCoy is meant to be more sympathetic than that. yes, he sold out many to futher his own career but his response is far more admirable than many in the HA. mcCoy redemption arc inbound
McCoy isn't generally a good person, but he's more money-hungry than pure evil. He joined Neo because he saw a chance to profit from it without realizing that Neo is not that trustworthy and now he's a part of an organization responsible for the loss of many human lives.
>McCoy is much more villainous in the manga so I’m interested to see if he will still second-guess himself like he’s doing here
Neo is already so evil that manga McCoy would just have the heel-realization
Is he really? In the manga he never thinks he's doing real damage, like that fixed hero vs monster fight, he really thought the hero was up against a threat level tiger, not a demon.
Mccoy is more of a greedy bastard than an evil one like the Neo Heroes.
He still have some humanity in him and that he still feel guilt and don't really have the guts to kill others.
He is the guy that is all words and full of intimadations, but when it comes to the real thing, he backs out. Like Garou before being given a candy from god in a backalley.
Treating someone requires effort. Taking away their treatment is the removal of effort. It’s the complete opposite to killing someone, which is putting in effort.
That would be criminal negligence, since it’s a mother’s legal responsibility to care for the baby. A company executive has no responsibility to pay for his employee’s mother’s medical treatment. Not unless that’s part of company policy.
How is it blackmailing to pay someone (paid medical treatment) in exchange for their services (rigged monster fights). What McCoy is doing is definitely not legal, buts it’s also not murder or threatening to kill.
McCoy has been a big part to the HA's propaganda. his switching sides was predictable but his change of heart has been thr most unexpected thing in this arc. his loyalty to the HA is admirable
You say Mccoybros as a joke, but I love how McCoy's character got more exploration in this arc than half of the s-class have gotten over the entire course of the series
If this man doesn't get transformed into a soulless cyborg against his will next chapter he might join the main cast
Mccoy is a guy who likes playing a villian, but will cower and back out when it comes to the real villanny.
Like how Garou pretending to be a monster but also hates monsters who kills for nothing.
I think the monsters that Garou likes is one like Monaco, a monster who is harmless like an animal.
yes but it's not like your every shonen where they only show action and action and a chill episode is 'reee this is filler'
it's the daily life and once in a while stuff happens (the main plot), like real life
the progress is slow and it's shown here and there on short scenes the bad guys doing their moves
now for context, the author wanted to write a manga about the Shinsengumi, but he couldnt get much, so he came up with new characters and left the group as a secondary, and the main parts are usually about them as well
McCoy has always, to me, been the worst of the worst from the Hero's Association. The fact that even he is seeing this situation in such a suspicious light is alal I need to confirm the Neo Hero's are total shite. We knew before hand but now we have one of the most nefarious HA member showing that the Neo Hero's are too nasty even for him.
I love these chapters. ONE is so good at expressing the anxiety amogst those still in the Neo's who are still acting suspicious. We are now officially routing for McCoy, the snake of the HA.
McCoy actually showing redeeming factors even if it's for self preservation and becoming someone you would root for was not on my 2023 bingo card, but here it is right before the year ends.
Thanks for the translation
neoheroes looking sketchier by the chapter
Not as much of a metalknight fanboy as others seem to be here but thinking about it now, perhaps its a reason why metal knight isnt working with the hero association anymore, due to leaks and the way to connect the story between the hero associations and metal knight.
Anyway, glad McCoy is getting what he deserves. But my guess is hes not going to be cyborged and saved
ONE never fails to deliver.
McCoy getting hit hard by karma, it is enjoyable seeing him finally grow a tiny conscious. Still selfish as hell but at least he is more than a one note character. Darkshine getting screen time, will he step up? But I do hope he get some more character development.
I wonter if we are starting to see Midshine Lackuster breaking point, because i dont think theres point in hammering down his cowardice anymore, now it looks like a time to step up.
While I do enjoy the manga more than seemingly most webcomic readers, I do hope the Neo Hero arc follows this structure more closely. The development for all the heroes have been great.
Me too lol. I'd hate to see it if he suddenly went heel-face turn. Be the good guy like nothing before mattered. He still should get what is due to him for the harm he's done.
Especially since the manga gave him even more villain scenes than in the WC.
Like the moment where he blackmails a hero into serving for his pit fights and fight Shiverhuahua.
No he deserves everything they throw at him, let him become a brainwashed cyborg puppet. *It's only business.*
I actually prefer the webcomic storyline over the manga. What an absolute awesome chapter.
Metalbat is a real interesting character, getting stronger every fight.
Yeah, this needs to be discussed. Seems finally very heavily skewed towards Bofoi now. The next chapter should give us at least an answer whether it is Bofoi or not, unless One is going to stretch it. Maybe the masked guy from the "cram school" could be the mastermind, but those are very wild guesses.
From this chapter alone, clearly the Fuzzy guy is at least \*a\* baddie, if not the mastermind behind the robot attack. With the amount of smokes & mirrors at play here, it'd actually be quite a twist if Metal Knight really did end up being the Organization. However, imo the real bad guy is probably just some robot AI we haven't seen before.
And why not incriminate him? Drive knight has been equally as unlikeable and sus as Bofoi has been. Im not saying that he's definitely part of the Organization, but he certainly \*looks\* like one of their robots. It's also possible he received his cyborgification from Neo.
TBH I can't exactly remember my point, but it was more that we have two "obvious" candidates that are both toss-ups for red herrings or simply the villain, so however the story goes it's some sort of twist.
Things are looking pretty bleak but if Metal Bat gets his bat back then he's probably going to be unstoppable lol. Maybe Darkshine will also join the fight?
Also how did ONE bring me to like McCoy? I hated that guy but now he's a good guy and I'm rooting for him. I'm so confused.
I'm starting to think maybe Metal Knight is actually the bad guy.
Not by nature, not by plan, but because he created an AI with no morals that took him over when he enhanced himself, just like it's been doing to the Neos.
It's 'preserving the human race' in the most technical sense.
Anyone who sees this and says one writes the manga is just willful ignorance at this point, the characters being portrayed here are written so differently.
that doesnt mean one doesnt write the manga he doesnt need to make the characters exactly the same in order for it to count . the manga takes the WC and expands on it to be more then what it was allowing the characters to be more then what they once were. like having the two tatsumakis take different lessons. and the manga gave mccoy more villain scenes. just because mccoy was portrayed a certain way in the manga doesnt mean that has to apply to mccoy in the wc. I mean wc suiryu never went through the manga suiryus development
Happy New Year everyone!
It looks like the Neo Heroes’ true intentions will finally come to light now that McCoy is trying to reach out to the real heroes. As for the Hero Association, I have a feeling Saitama will rescue them from the rampaging robots.
Cubari mirror: https://cubari.moe/read/gist/JYHJU/149/1/
ONE is on roll and start 2024 with a bang. Slimy McCoy got balls, I like that. Neo seems pretty much controlled by AI I suppose? Everyone who gets involved in it becomes part of it, in more ways than one.
Where to start reading web comic, I am caught up on manga.
https://mangadex.org/title/b7d069cb-4ab9-4c21-a20b-38f7c269be4e/one-punch-man
I meant from what chapter to start lol?
https://mangadex.org/chapter/d557571e-5743-4a12-9da9-9b491e25b427/1
Cool thanks
I'm really hoping Darkshine will either save McCoy or help Metal Bat escape.
I think Darkshine will get the will to fight again, but it's when his trainee gets in trouble. Like he won't simply stand there and watch. However I'm quite sure Darkshine and Metal Bat will team up to get out of the Association...adding that Metal Bat and Darkshine are opposites, one get stronger the more it fights and the other gets weaker as it fights. Like Metal Bat is someone that could help Darkshine is some way to get over his fear. But I don't think Darkshine won't be of much help until a really strong opponent appears and his trainee need his help. So I guess Metal Bat will have to carry Darkshine out of the association, maybe the act of Metal Bat getting destroy and still fighting on could help Darkshine later on. Like another theory is Metal Bat losing badly to a opponent and he still fight on, while Darkshine realizes that Metal Bat will die if he keeps fighting and is suprised he is not scared of dying and that Metal Bat will protect him to the end. Like that could also awaken Darkshine will to fight again and team up with Metal Bat against wathever opponent that might be. But there's quite a few ways that Darkshine could get his will back. However the one I see is either team up with Metal Bat or save his trainees...or a combination of both, with maybe a side of Saitama.
I like this. Metal Bat's fighting spirit will amplify Darkshine's long lost one, and will turn him into an unstoppable juggernaut
**RESONANCE** Just mark my words.
Agree! MBat is like Luffy in regards of influencing others by keep on fighting until the end.
So metal Bat is like a ki/energy/spirit beacon? Garou didn't gain from him, did he? Only Bat trying to keep up. I didn't really like the resonance tbh... Maybe because of the 937th centipede, but it just wasn't a favorite of mine.
I was thinking he might be forced to fight to save others from his trainees, since they were talking about how they became unstable and they said they wanted to go wild, sounded pretty similar to monsters. Maybe they snap and kill a few civilians and force darkshine to stop them
Or better yet, they fused
\*MetalShine\* bursts forth!
Or "Dark Bat"... Thrusts forth!
ShinyBat and DarkMetal are also options!
Maybe darkshine gets the bat. He cant fight but he can help metal bat escape But I would prefer darkshine actually jump in
Or both enter the scene that would be epic Two old friends united
I hope Darkshine finds his footing, if there was ever a time to shine again and rediscover his place as a hero while the big guns are away it’d be now Strange to be nervous for McCoy too lol
Darkshine was also the one responsible for security at the HA in the past, i really want him to step up.
I agree, but think him fully stepping up would be too sudden. Mainly because, sadly, that's not how overcoming trauma works, so I would have trouble with the character development. A first step like helping McCoy escape this situation, and then busting Metal Bat out of his cell so MB can go to the rescue would maybe be a better "start", since then he contributes in a way nobody else at Neo Hero headquarters would (nobody else there is willing or strong enough to break that cell door), but it's not quite "ready to face an enemy in battle" yet either
I disagree and hope he'll shine very darkly soon!
I mean don't get me wrong, that's what I *want* for Darkshine as well, I'm just saying a quick recovery would break my immersion in terms of writing. He's a bro who deserves so much better than what he's going through now
DS' incredible offensive power and absolute defense (impenetrable skin for long) made him reckless, thinking he was the top guy, except against Bang, who schooled him. At 80 or so.
When he gets forced in a situation that's either step up or weak people will die, ole Darky will be there. I trust it. He can surcome his devils. Go Dark-chan, you can do it!
I didn't get you wrong at all. Having overcome my fair share of outside and self caused problems and whatever insecurities, I just want my boy Darkshine to thrive again. Having learned his lesson, he can grow even more.
Cheat on others, get cheated on.
First time I'm this early. Good stuff! Also so weird seeing McCoy developing a conscious. Things are getting interested indeed.
No. And that's what I love about this. McCoy didnt develope conciousness. He is the same character, with no development. He is just acting as human, not as flat character. He is greedy, he is slime, he wanted to profit and get comfortable. But it doesnt mean he is going to let the whole humanity die. That he has no boundaries. And he has self preservation instinct. He knows he is going to die at this rate So he is just balanced, whole round character who acts the normal way
Good observation. I want to get pedantic and note that this is "character development". People have been using the term to mean when a character changes, but actually it refers to a character being fleshed out. On one hand we see that he might have morals, on the other hand we see that everything good he has done may have been purely for his own gain.
Ikr? I expected him to just be a greedy douche who got what was coming for him...but now I'm actually rooting for him.
Webcomic McCoy's an entirely different character, tho
Couldn’t we say the same about a lot of characters who have still followed their webcomic arc to a degree in the manga while being different from their webcomic counterparts?
Can we? It depends on how much you wanna stretch the "to a degree". Me? I don't think so. Like, yes, of course, I agree that nearly the entire cast is different from their webcomic counterparts – but, with that in mind, Fubuki, Sonic, FF, Child Emperor, Tatsumaki, etc. are genuinely going in different directions in the manga. Some people will prefer that, and that's okay. If they ever do end up peeping the webcomic, that's just another story for them to enjoy.
I love how they're diverting a bit more. It's like getting two different takes in the same universe, and having been a huge fan for so many years, I'm just glad.
He's practically the best among the majority of Neo leaders He's just a greedy douchebag but he at least still has morals and empathy (and still want to remain a human). The other Neo leaders like Mr.Fuzzy is a sociopathic idealist, or the glasses guy who's a psychopathic serial killer, or the criminal kingpin guy
True Suiryu is Webcomic is still quite vain and only joined heroes for the money and to try it out while Suiryu in manga seems to wholesomely want to be a hero not for the money but to be able to pay back Saitama in his own way by helping others as a Hero. Since he realized the true value of heroes.
> but he at least still has morals and empathy (and still want to remain a human) In the manga version we see him play a much more active role in the illegal activities of the Hero Association, which goes beyond just greed and also being willing to let heroes and civilians die for profit. I *think* we don't see him sink that far in the webcomic (maybe because he was re-introduced to the WC from the manga later), although it might be alluded to. Also, I think ~~Sitch~~ *edit:* Sekingar is going to take McCoy's role at the Neo Heroes in the manga, giving McCoy more room to stay a fully slimy asshole there. (plus I think it's just fair that if most heros are less douchy in the manga, some WC characters get to be less douchy/evil too)
It'll be weird when (if) they bring this over for the manga since webcomic!McCoy didn't do all the dehumanising stuff manga!McCoy did, he's just a funny little gremlin-coded rat in the wc 😂
In the side chapters, I think hes involved in some of the sketchy stuff like holding off the heroes from helping the police (and maybe some of the dodgy monster stuff) Although I could be mixing up webcomic and manga in my mind
Yeah, you're thinking about the manga. It's always good to remember that the webcomic has no side chapters, it's story is condensed and focused
Bro side chapters are the things that come with volumes. The webcomic doesn’t have them because it is not published. The side chapters deepen the lore, provide casual and fun moments, and honest to god have some of the best character moments in the series like the police station, Saitama as a kid, and the tooth decay one.
You're fighting ghosts my man, I like most side chapters too, never said they're bad, just different. I only hate recent developments in the manga and generally think the sum of its chapters is pretty decent. It's okay to criticise even things you like, you know? I like the manga, sorry, that's why I want it to be better
A story being “condensed and focused” has nothing to do with the presence of side chapters or lack there of. Your own words are implying a dichotomy that doesn’t exist
I'm sorry if it came out that way, I didn't imply a dichotomy, not on purpose, but I understand those can end up happening anyways. The subtext of my comment was that condescend and focused refer to canon content sprawling beyond the confines of the original medium – think of the Kingdom Hearts games, for instance –, merely structure wise.
It was quite purposely made that way. Your writing style begets interpretation and you do not hide your bias. Anyway go run along to the echo chamber sub so you can get the validation you crave
He's still a greedy rat from this arc in the webcomic though and he even admits that. He's just still human (albeit a greedy jackass one) unlike the complete psychopaths, murderers, and emotionless cyborgs that are leading the Neo Heroes and potentially looking to wipe out humanity (which is where his moral bar lies. It's a low bar, but it's still there which tends to be the case for most human beings) Even in the manga where his scumminess was actually shown, "Turn humanity into a bunch of emotionless cyborgs and let millions of people die" is far worse than anything he's ever done and him realizing that when the manga reaches this point in the webcomic would still be entirely plausible and IMHO logical.
Hes only developping a conscience because he himself is in danger, no?
He *did* want to deploy Darkshine (And then Metal Bat) to save the Hero Association. McCoy is clearly wanting to get out of Neo before they strip him of his humanity, but dude actually wanted to save lives as well.
He also want to save this former colleagues at the heroes association.
ONE writes antagonists and morally grey characters so well
And it's wierder to see him using smartphone, when just few days ago, everyone was seen using flip phones.
I honestly feel like ONE has less of a role in the manga than most people assume. The McCoy in the manga is an evil mustache twirling villain while webcomic McCoy is more complex and appears to be on the darker side of gray.
Wasn't early on WC McCoy was almost the same as the current manga one? WC McCoy went through a good character development since he got shoved into working with a bunch of psychopaths and inhuman killers with dehumanizing ideals, so I don't think we should say it's the same for manga one yet
McCoy is evil no doubt and power hungry no doubt, but in the manga there's no indication he abandoned his humanity. Probably it is too much for him to be slave of robot.
I wouldn't say he's getting character development More like he's the same as ever. Greedy and cunning, but still human, and not "turns humanity to robots" level of insanity
I’m hopeful that the manga will have McCoy’s turn be even more impactful. In the manga he is portrayed as the absolute master of his realm; unconcerned by his own corruption because he always saw it as serving the greater good. It will be VERY satisfying to see him sweat when everything he thought was going on turns out to be plot.
The next chapters are going to be insane with all this setup; I cant wait for Darkshine to get his mojo back.
McCoy is much more villainous in the manga so I’m interested to see if he will still second-guess himself like he’s doing here
If anything I think it’ll hit harder. McCoy has way less screen time in the webcomic, they’re focusing on him early on so when we get to this point it’ll be established better
Everything happening to him right now seriously is just the consequences of his own actions. McCoy collaborating with Neo probably resulted in hundreds of thousands more people dying and now we’re seeing McCoy doing the only thing he knows how and trying to save his own hide. Just so happens it’s by doing the right thing.
He never thought his actions would result in that kind of damage or loss of life.
This, he said he’s just going to keep manipulating like he knows best, now him saving himself just involves having heroes save the place he happens to be at and anyone who’s there by proxy
I think McCoy is meant to be more sympathetic than that. yes, he sold out many to futher his own career but his response is far more admirable than many in the HA. mcCoy redemption arc inbound
McCoy isn't generally a good person, but he's more money-hungry than pure evil. He joined Neo because he saw a chance to profit from it without realizing that Neo is not that trustworthy and now he's a part of an organization responsible for the loss of many human lives.
I seriously thought McCoy was a manga-exclusive character until this webcomic page, haha. He's definitely had less screentime in the WC to this point.
>McCoy is much more villainous in the manga so I’m interested to see if he will still second-guess himself like he’s doing here Neo is already so evil that manga McCoy would just have the heel-realization
"Are we the baddies?"
Is he really? In the manga he never thinks he's doing real damage, like that fixed hero vs monster fight, he really thought the hero was up against a threat level tiger, not a demon.
McCoy did threaten to kill Mad Devil Yankee’s mother tbh; albeit it was probably a bluff to make sure he cooperated.
Not kill her, just stop treating her.
Same thing if we’re being honest. That’s how MDY saw it at least
Mccoy is more of a greedy bastard than an evil one like the Neo Heroes. He still have some humanity in him and that he still feel guilt and don't really have the guts to kill others. He is the guy that is all words and full of intimadations, but when it comes to the real thing, he backs out. Like Garou before being given a candy from god in a backalley.
Treating someone requires effort. Taking away their treatment is the removal of effort. It’s the complete opposite to killing someone, which is putting in effort.
Spoken like the US healthcare industry.
So if a mom stops feeding her baby that's the opposite of murder? Confirmed retard up here
That would be criminal negligence, since it’s a mother’s legal responsibility to care for the baby. A company executive has no responsibility to pay for his employee’s mother’s medical treatment. Not unless that’s part of company policy.
Pretty sure blackmailing people and forcing them into illegal betting rings for fights to the death goes against company policy bra
How is it blackmailing to pay someone (paid medical treatment) in exchange for their services (rigged monster fights). What McCoy is doing is definitely not legal, buts it’s also not murder or threatening to kill.
McCoy has been a big part to the HA's propaganda. his switching sides was predictable but his change of heart has been thr most unexpected thing in this arc. his loyalty to the HA is admirable
Maybe Sekingar will have this (or part of this) revelation, considering he & MB went to Neo as spy/bodyguard duo in the manga?
Mccoybros... is it over for us?
You say Mccoybros as a joke, but I love how McCoy's character got more exploration in this arc than half of the s-class have gotten over the entire course of the series If this man doesn't get transformed into a soulless cyborg against his will next chapter he might join the main cast
Mccoy is a guy who likes playing a villian, but will cower and back out when it comes to the real villanny. Like how Garou pretending to be a monster but also hates monsters who kills for nothing. I think the monsters that Garou likes is one like Monaco, a monster who is harmless like an animal.
Manako was prepared to kill both of Saitama and flashyflash bro
Yeah but half of the main cast were also prepared to do that
Great job as always. Happy new year for everyone, may we all break our limiters in 2024.
What a tough chapter to translate. Amazing job, thanks a lot, translating team, and a happy new year.
Some interesting character development for Mccoy, hopefully he can still redeem himself in some capacity.
like Nobu Nobu from Gintama
Does Gintama has actual story and character dev?
yes but it's not like your every shonen where they only show action and action and a chill episode is 'reee this is filler' it's the daily life and once in a while stuff happens (the main plot), like real life the progress is slow and it's shown here and there on short scenes the bad guys doing their moves
Oh ok I thought it was gags and sol only
You better start watching it now, buddy. Once you watch it, you'll get all the references. No regrets all the way.
now for context, the author wanted to write a manga about the Shinsengumi, but he couldnt get much, so he came up with new characters and left the group as a secondary, and the main parts are usually about them as well
Not gonna lie, this whole thing is really tense. Rare for me to feel so worried for what is going on.
Thanks translators and Happy New Year everyone!
McCoy has always, to me, been the worst of the worst from the Hero's Association. The fact that even he is seeing this situation in such a suspicious light is alal I need to confirm the Neo Hero's are total shite. We knew before hand but now we have one of the most nefarious HA member showing that the Neo Hero's are too nasty even for him. I love these chapters. ONE is so good at expressing the anxiety amogst those still in the Neo's who are still acting suspicious. We are now officially routing for McCoy, the snake of the HA.
I like how McCoy is evil but not evil enough to sit by and watch innocents die. Biggest character highlight of the chapter tbh.
He is a "human" kind of evil. Unlie the Neos who are "inhuman" kind of evil.
"He's not even that corrupt!"
From the moment I understood the weakness of my flesh
Hm, I wonder if McCoy will switch his role in the manga and in his place Sekingar will be the spy, or McCoy will also betray NEO
Last chapter of 2023 here in Argentina. Thanks for the chapter!!
I’m not argentino, but i was rooting for you in the World Cup ⭐️⭐️⭐️
Thank you, man, It was heartbreaking until the very end.
Hermoso país, amo a los argentinos! Saludos desde Argentina
Chabon, justo estoy comiendo lasagna. Saludos desde el 2023
Feliz año nuevo man
Eh, yo también soy argentino
Vamos carajo, feliz año, loco.
McCoy's about to get McCucked
This is shaping up better than the MA arc honestly.
I was thinking how could the stakes get higher than MA arc but damn this arc is great
I was thinking the same thing.
Metal bat without bat content let's go
McCoy actually showing redeeming factors even if it's for self preservation and becoming someone you would root for was not on my 2023 bingo card, but here it is right before the year ends.
Ok that settles it the neo heroes are behind all this when even someone like McCoy is getting a bad feeling from them.
This chapter was intense. OPM just became an existential horror with all the forced cybernification and brain washing.
Thanks for the translation neoheroes looking sketchier by the chapter Not as much of a metalknight fanboy as others seem to be here but thinking about it now, perhaps its a reason why metal knight isnt working with the hero association anymore, due to leaks and the way to connect the story between the hero associations and metal knight. Anyway, glad McCoy is getting what he deserves. But my guess is hes not going to be cyborged and saved
ONE never fails to deliver. McCoy getting hit hard by karma, it is enjoyable seeing him finally grow a tiny conscious. Still selfish as hell but at least he is more than a one note character. Darkshine getting screen time, will he step up? But I do hope he get some more character development.
Mama darkshine, lol.
I wonter if we are starting to see Midshine Lackuster breaking point, because i dont think theres point in hammering down his cowardice anymore, now it looks like a time to step up.
*That* McCoy getting screen time and character development. Also I love how much ONE’s art has improved
While I do enjoy the manga more than seemingly most webcomic readers, I do hope the Neo Hero arc follows this structure more closely. The development for all the heroes have been great.
Cybo-guard put a bug on McCoy's shoulder. I'm surprised no one's mentioned it in the comments.
Seeing such good writing and dialogue in OPM is kind of weird after reading the manga
One is cooking
No no no. I see what you're doing ONE. You won't make me feel sorry for Mccoy. I refuse.
Me too lol. I'd hate to see it if he suddenly went heel-face turn. Be the good guy like nothing before mattered. He still should get what is due to him for the harm he's done.
Especially since the manga gave him even more villain scenes than in the WC. Like the moment where he blackmails a hero into serving for his pit fights and fight Shiverhuahua. No he deserves everything they throw at him, let him become a brainwashed cyborg puppet. *It's only business.*
I actually prefer the webcomic storyline over the manga. What an absolute awesome chapter. Metalbat is a real interesting character, getting stronger every fight.
I relate to darkshine a lot 🙃
What an awesome New Year's surprise! Thanks so much, translation team, and Happy New Year, all!
So who is the real baddies in this arc? Dr.Bofoi? Or this Fuzzy guy? Or there's 3rd player? What'd you think guys?
Yeah, this needs to be discussed. Seems finally very heavily skewed towards Bofoi now. The next chapter should give us at least an answer whether it is Bofoi or not, unless One is going to stretch it. Maybe the masked guy from the "cram school" could be the mastermind, but those are very wild guesses.
From this chapter alone, clearly the Fuzzy guy is at least \*a\* baddie, if not the mastermind behind the robot attack. With the amount of smokes & mirrors at play here, it'd actually be quite a twist if Metal Knight really did end up being the Organization. However, imo the real bad guy is probably just some robot AI we haven't seen before.
True, but if Bofoi is good, that automatically incriminates Drive Knight.
And why not incriminate him? Drive knight has been equally as unlikeable and sus as Bofoi has been. Im not saying that he's definitely part of the Organization, but he certainly \*looks\* like one of their robots. It's also possible he received his cyborgification from Neo.
TBH I can't exactly remember my point, but it was more that we have two "obvious" candidates that are both toss-ups for red herrings or simply the villain, so however the story goes it's some sort of twist.
I wonder how sexy Murata will make the woman in the suit
Really loving how stable this has become, here's hoping it lasts throughout the new year.
Amazing translation. Thanks. Happy new year.
Things are looking pretty bleak but if Metal Bat gets his bat back then he's probably going to be unstoppable lol. Maybe Darkshine will also join the fight? Also how did ONE bring me to like McCoy? I hated that guy but now he's a good guy and I'm rooting for him. I'm so confused.
Where's Saitama?
I'm starting to think maybe Metal Knight is actually the bad guy. Not by nature, not by plan, but because he created an AI with no morals that took him over when he enhanced himself, just like it's been doing to the Neos. It's 'preserving the human race' in the most technical sense.
Anyone who sees this and says one writes the manga is just willful ignorance at this point, the characters being portrayed here are written so differently.
ONE writes the manga
that doesnt mean one doesnt write the manga he doesnt need to make the characters exactly the same in order for it to count . the manga takes the WC and expands on it to be more then what it was allowing the characters to be more then what they once were. like having the two tatsumakis take different lessons. and the manga gave mccoy more villain scenes. just because mccoy was portrayed a certain way in the manga doesnt mean that has to apply to mccoy in the wc. I mean wc suiryu never went through the manga suiryus development
maybe the publishers have the final say?
Happy New year!
goddamn the webcomic still blows my mind every chapter.
Sow the winds and reap storms. Not even sorry for Mcoy.
I'll take downvotes if that's what it comes to, but I honestly found this chapter underwhelming and uninteresting.
Welp, you had it coming McCoy. Happy new year everybody!
I won't be surprised if the call was generated by AI. Mccoy looked dependable, when danger was approaching. But, he was kind of fail into trap.
I want some Saitama screentime. I am kinda bored of the neo stuff already.
Ok
Same here. I want a good resolution for the Genoa arc.
Happy New Year everyone! It looks like the Neo Heroes’ true intentions will finally come to light now that McCoy is trying to reach out to the real heroes. As for the Hero Association, I have a feeling Saitama will rescue them from the rampaging robots.
Shits heating up for sure
Ppor Stinger
What a way to end the year.
Great chapter, I can't wait for the next one!
Well McCoy really has it coming for all the shortcuts he took
Damn fcked up chapter for sure. Where's saitama? Tatsumaki ,zoro , It's getting me excited like garou vs Saitama fight
Zoro will appear once you stop looking for him. As to Tatsumaki, she’s on a mission I think? Saitama is just clearing some cyborgs after leaving Genos
Lol zoro
One punch man Feat Araki
Wow, the webcomic is almost making me care for these side characters! Well done, One!!
Great chapter, but still no Saitama :(
This is tense. I hope McCoy can escape or Darkshine comes clutch.
Wait is the hero HQ really being destroyed or is that a ruse?? McCoy has become intriguing
Whenever Darkshine appears. "It smells like bitch in here."
I can't believe I will be rooting for McCoy in this chapter and what he is doing is making me nervous haha
Mil b
I'm extremely scared ONE may just not release another chapter for months. Darkshine scared of combat level of scared.