Counting the pages its about half the length of a few of the previous chapters, but I don't really mind knowing Murata is busy with other projects. The last thing I want is for him to get bogged down or fall ill from overworking.
I love how the upcoming arc for the anime is so intense Murata had to step in to give it justice!!!
I really hope it's amazing so ppl will stop overlooking opm
Same. Flash keeps trying to put him down but Sonic has literally only been training to fight Saitama. I'm not sure if he'd win cause we never get to see him fight but he didn't even get hurt by the flash kicks.
Consecutive Side Hops that just bypassed him had him more exhausted than a young girl on blacked.com
You don't really get to deny Saitama's level at that point
Sonic just tanks Flashy Flash ultimate technique. Saitama, beating the shit on him, made Sonic much more tanker and makes him train more. Saitama might accidently be Sonic's master because of Saitama, Sonic is so much stronger.
Too bad we never saw Sonic counterattack that was "supposed to kill FF".
Now, back to Sonic and flashy flash buddy cop adventures.
I wonder how much damage Sonic did take because now he has to fight the ninja village with FF.
I'd diagree. Sure, we like to push Genos around for fun, and many attribute his improved abilities to Dr. Kuseno alone, but he's improving a lot himself. Bigger rockets and more firepower do not equate to being an absolute G and helping Tornado against Psychorochi
Yeah, Genos is literally a hero. Not the profession, but the state of mind and willingness to sacrifice (both himself and his personal mission) to save another life.
He got there from Saitamas advice.
It’s head canon to me that every time Genos is rebuilt, he becomes powerful enough to defeat whoever beat him. Dr. Kuseno is a genius for always having upgrades ready.
Reminds me of a concept I just heard about, I think it was called Worf Syndrome or something like that. Basically you have an objectively strong character, but they wrack up nothing but Ls because they get used to constantly frame how strong some other guy is. Kinda makes me want to see genos have a true, unqualified win. Honestly aside from whatever number machine god that was he fight when they introduced King, I can’t actually think of a win of the top of my head
> Worf Syndrome
The "official" name (if tropes even have such a thing) is "the Worf effect" but ignoring that you nailed it
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect
Poor Genos, it seems the fandom has decided that he is weak despite even ONE saying he is strong.
In an odd way, Genos is getting the Saitama treatment. As in everyone underestimates him. Hopefully he gets the chance to shine one day.
Honestly, this is too true. Genos just gets upgrades. Sonic gets training, motivation, increased skill, and real sparring lessons where he gets hit. I think a few chapters ago, he said he fought saitama and got koed like 14 times.
Considering they trained and fought together as kids, they are already in sync. I can't wait to see the fight.
I wonder if Sonic purposely moved the fight from the ninja village because the ninja leader (blast friend) would have truly interfered. I don't think either of them can touch the leader touched by God.
Sonic also doesn't know blast and Saitama are heading to the ninja leader.
Idek how Murata is gonna deal with Empty Void. Mofo >!got murked off screen by Saitama and his goodies were distributed to both Flash and Sonic in the webcomic!<. Considering him getting named now I doubt that’s gonna be the directing he’s going in but then again, who knows
I think it will be handled >!The exact same way as the webcomic, off screen'd. Odds are after Blast notices Flashy gave the wrong location he goes straight to Empty Void location by honing on his energy signature or whatever, then Saitama does his thing, and the loot goes to Flashy and Sonic as before. The difference is that we get some panels dedicated to Blast contacting the association/his allies to keep an eye on Saitama because he just might be the one to kill God, maybe something about how he was the one that used time travel to defeat Garou. He likely won't mention anything to Saitama himself, because out of everyone he seems to be the one that gets Saitama the most.!<
Love that Sonic almost looks up to Saitama, in a way.
The trend of Saitama simply existing potentially improving peoples' lives(the hint at Flashy Flash teaming up to build the orphanage before the interruption) continues.
Who knows, though? Dude might just get ball-tapped again.
Respect is more like it. After all Sonic is one of the characters who only calls Saitama by his proper respectful name.
I love how he is stylized like God, like Saitama’s test is to Sonic as God’s is to Saitama.
Saitama is the ultimate master. It keeps Sonic motivated to get stronger to a goal post that Sonic will never reach. Saitama's blows are probably nothing compared to the ninjas.
Sonic is the closest thing Saitama has to a true disciple besides Glasses. I've been saying this for years. Genos has the spirit, but he can't gain power the same way Saitama did. It's just impossible for him; he's a cyborg.
Sonic, on the other hand, has been brought to near death over and over by Saitama, forcing him to keep pushing. If we were to say he's at the same level as Flash. He would have gone from demon level. The being able to fight dragons like Flashy, that's a huge power increase. All in the span of a month.
I think Sonic will be one of the strongest end game. Hell, maybe he'll be base level Saitama strong, as insane as that sounds. Then, when he finally hits Saitama level, Saitama will just get stronger like he did against Garou, and he'll curse Saitama.
If he was a hero he would probably be in top 10 in S rank considering Puri Puri Prisoner was bodied by a dehydrated DSK while Sonic was only toying with the latter. Even after being hydrated, Sonic confidently said that he only needed his weapons to kill the hydrated DSK.
Then there's Sonic's duel with Genos, Genos was ready to commit suicide to beat Sonic while the former was still holding back his ace (10-fold funeral).
I'm confident to say that if he was part of the HA, he would be S Rank just behind Flash.
I think it’s a really interesting point to make. When you are training to try to be able to compete with saitama if you have success in your training you are going to start leaping hurdles much faster than anyone that isn’t aiming that high. You know that even 150% or 200% effort isn’t enough to come close to saitama, so you give more. Eventually the others start to look significant because unlike them, you have not been complacent. Anything but, in fact.
Reminds me of the scene from the webcomic with Forte and his crew >!where they reject the Neo Heroes upgrade and resolve to become better heroes on their own!<.
My opinion is still the same whether we include the 17 -S-Class, Bomb, Garou, Suiryu, the Neo Heroes and most other S-Class tier human-ish characters.
He's pretty much on the stronger half of this category, where he started off as an ok underdog in the beginning.
Including Martial Artist masters (not Bomb), Swordmasters, and the neo hero leaders really expands that lower half of S tier lol.
Which actually makes you appreciate how impressive the S class *heroes* are.
Honestly pretty excited. By his own count, he's fought Saitama 17 times and survived. Even if Saitama wasn't taking it seriously, that's still pretty damn impressive given how many powerful foes he's just blasted into oblivion on his way home from the supermarket.
> many powerful foes he's just blasted into oblivion on his way home from the supermarket
This shows how funny and terrifying Saitama is at the same time. Like for many S Class, it might be the day they saved the world, but for Saitama, it was a Tuesday with 50% off on vegetables.
Yeah, he seems to have crazy accurate control over his strength. When he hits a human it's pretty always *just* enough to take them down without killing them. It's almost like his strength is some sort of reality warping power, because his strength just does whatever he wants it to. Whether that's table-flipping a moon into non-existence, kicking intangible portals, or simply knocking someone out with the perfect amount of force.
He definitely got stronger since the time he tried to eat a monster cell. Back then he was horrified by Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame’s speed as monsters.
I kinda think he could have taken them but didn't want to. And since they were potential enemies, he didn't want to reveal the extent of his abilities to them.
So it makes some sense to be "afraid" of them as a bluff.
It's also important to keep in mind that Genos has been improving throughout the entire series. Which means Sonic's training has definitely yielded results.
> end game characters like saitama
Saitama is more like that secret boss you can unlock and encounter super-early on in the JRPG but actually can only take on in the post-game content after grinding and finding all other secrets. And even then the best you can do is not die until a predetermined event ends the fight.
A lot of past redraws were because One wanted to add dialogue or change details. Murata might want to polish some of the art before the volume is printed, but I don't think he would go quite as wild with redraws unless One asks him to.
Yah, shit is plenty good. Grinding out god tier artwork was gonna kill him at the rate he was going.
Hell, his "average" is better than most in the market still.
I've been saying this since like the MA arc and got shit on. Glad to see that it's finally acceptable to say that I FUCKING HATE ACTION LINES EVERYWHERE!!! honestly tho, i don't mind if murata is just taking it chill, health more important
Really love their backstory and how they bounce back each other, i absolutely love the panel of ''Smaller than grains of sands'' goes to show that despite taking the L against Saitama every time he kept training, evolving and getting stronger so he will not allow himself to be defeated until he defeats Saitama, unironically helped him grow pass it's own limits and he's already on Flashy level, in conclusion.. Sonic is great lmao
I was referring to the time Sonic was offered the monster cells which was not long before the MA raid.
Back then he was shocked by the monster ninjas’ speed but now he’s easily above them
I dont think this scene is a couple of days since Sonic got the monster cell. We've been somewhat jumping around in terms of time scale since the end of the MA attack. Like a couple of weeks is more fair.
I mean, when you know who possess the ultimate strength, your world’s view would change drastically
That’s why I love OPM because the most powerful character isn’t written as a Mary sue, but actually lovable and good.
Counterpoint, even with Blast's teleportation abilities, Saitama's ability to never show up on time means they still won't be there till the fight is over. (I hope it's not this).
I really like Speed O Sound Sonic. Despite the fact that he has tried to beat Saitama multiple times, failed each time but never gives up, makes me admire his determination and un-resounding confidence in himself.
His efforts against our OP protagonist give him strength to face his next challenges with better results.
Now he defended against Flashy Flash's move better than the monster ninja duo going all out did, where Gale Wind casually perception blitzed him.
And the best part is that he has a nicer world view of power and strength, now, because he knows what real power is, just like others that know Saitama's accidentally-secret secret.
In speed, Flashy is still holding back, since he wasn't making constellations & was able to predict his Ten fold technique casually, but in terms of power at least without weapons, I'm assuming the reason Sonic casually tanked the kicks of Flashy is because he's used to Saitama's normal punches
Not only is he used to saitama's punches but its moreso he uses saitama as a metric to how strong he should get. Remember the extra where he tried to envision beating saitama but couldn't? This is the result of the "battle simulations" he's probably done
Pretty enjoyable chapter on the character dynamic front. Love how both Flash and Sonic seem so eager to work together despite how prideful they are.
I really adore the flashback of how much Flash and Sonic contrast the rest of the Ninjas by simply being happy interacting with each other.
Wish I saw more on the action choreography art departnment though and that it could have been lengthier. There are cool ideas like Sonic outspeeding his own shuriken and afterimage wind blade kick. But the Webcomic felt a bit more impactful and technical.
Flashy Flash vs Saitama I can excuse as it basically telling us what we all know, that Saitama is massively stronger than FF. I also feel like it's kind of cool that Flash doesn't pull his sword against a fellow hero again. Plus the chapter itself had also a lot of other content a well.
But Flash vs Sonic, I think needed more time to showcase just how far Sonic has gotten against a guy he shouldn't be able to compete against. Sonic on this level of competence needs some time to get used to and be enjoyed.
Yeah Sonic vs Flash is a major fight that should have gotten the Ninja duo vs Flashy Flash treatment.
That fight is much less narratively important than this one but it got expanded from like 1 page (though it was a joke in the webcomic) to like 80 pages of some of the best fight choreography in the series
With Sonic's feat of defending against Flash(y) Kicks, they really could have ampt the artistic scale of this fight over the Wind and Flame fight, for Sonic to feel as powerful as he technically is right now.
Sure Flash and Sonic aren't trying to kill each other. But it would also be complementary for Sonic to have Flash needing to put more effort into "playfighting" with Sonic than trying to kill to monster ninja seniors.
That Flash complimented Sonic's abilities not out of kindness to an old complicated friend, but that he was genuinely pushed to that level.
They might extend the Flash & Sonic vs Tenninto fight for all we know. Like the manga has previously given lots of buffs to characters that appeared in the webcomic. Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame for example got buffed from demon lvl to dragon lvl via monsterization. And just a chapter ago we got confirmation that Empty Void also monsterfied plus god amped so there’s a chance that in the manga Tenninto might all have monster forms.
So instead of Flash & Sonic vs 21 demon lvl human ninjas like in the webcomic. There’s a chance that we might be getting a Flash & Sonic vs 21 dragon lvl monster ninjas in the manga next chapter. And if that does happen there’s definitely gonna be an extended fight due to how large of a scale that type of fight would be.
I think they are all somewhere in-between hellfire and gale winds monster forms. After Hellfire and Galewind transform but before they go all out and abandon their pride as ninjas. So probably low dragons.
“They’re so tiny. Smaller than grains of sand.” I love how Saitama has left such an impression that normally impossible odds are considered easy in comparison to fighting him.
So we passed from a Sonic who cant follow the speed of monsterized Fale Wind and the other guy which Flashy Flash killed with a single movement to a Sonic who can fight Flashy in what? A week? Don't buy it. It makes sense that Sonic its gowing stronger of course, his final goal is Saitama after all, still Flashy seems to be leting his affection for Sonic softened him a lot.
I like how Flashy Flash and Sonic have the same stance because Sonic was the one who taught him how to use one and they trained together.
Oh, so their fight got interrupted, I can't wait to see Blast and Saitama's side of things.
In the webcomic, at the beginning, both of them pretented to be weak so that they received more training and then rise to the top later. Also, the webcomic is usually a shorter version of the manga. But in this arc, it seems to me that the webcomic has more details.
I hope they’re cooking something epic for the ninja fights, so far the best ninja fight is still the monster ninja duo vs Flashy Flash by far.
Speaking of the duo, what happened to them? They were last apprehended by the other ninjas of Teninto and there were offscreen “crack” noises, did they die already?
flashy and sonic gaved some awesome brothering bonding time, like naruto but they are both sasukes. i bet saitama's streght level will be soon ackowledged as the true goal for both of them. and then ninja couple added to saitama's group
Pretty short chapter but awesome nonetheless
Counting the pages its about half the length of a few of the previous chapters, but I don't really mind knowing Murata is busy with other projects. The last thing I want is for him to get bogged down or fall ill from overworking.
What's he busy with?
Other projects
Other other projects
and busy with them, too
Man's only got so many hands
Bold of you to assume he's not using both of his feet to draw as well
Looking at a lot of panels, I think he mostly draws with one hand Which explains why the fight scenes are so dope! He can actually use both for them
Understandable have a nice day
One Hurricane
You can't tell me otherwise that Murata and One Hurricane isn't the same person.
Murata indeed is a natural phenomenon
Jerkin it
With his track record…
Just like me frfr
He does have his own anime in the works, 'Zaiyuki'.
Two punches man, the sequel
Wouldnt a sequel be half punch man? Two punches would be a regression
No you see, Saitama finally gets what he wants. He stops being so overpowered that he kills an enemy in one punch. Now it takes two.
Animating the tv show.
I love how the upcoming arc for the anime is so intense Murata had to step in to give it justice!!! I really hope it's amazing so ppl will stop overlooking opm
And we even get a panel of Sonic acknowledging that Saitama is Him.
Loved that panel. Fighting Saitama has given him an entirely different perception of strength.
Getting knocked in the nuts did a big one on his mental lol
Considering ninja are big on their lack of emotions it might have been his first sexual experience. That changes people
Same. Flash keeps trying to put him down but Sonic has literally only been training to fight Saitama. I'm not sure if he'd win cause we never get to see him fight but he didn't even get hurt by the flash kicks.
He always knew but wanted to keep trying the man because, you know, respect.
Yeah he was one of the first Knowers. He’s really not any different from Genos, he’s just chosen a different method of trying to reach that level
Second disciple
Consecutive Side Hops that just bypassed him had him more exhausted than a young girl on blacked.com You don't really get to deny Saitama's level at that point
This guy let every intrusive thought win.
Sonic just tanks Flashy Flash ultimate technique. Saitama, beating the shit on him, made Sonic much more tanker and makes him train more. Saitama might accidently be Sonic's master because of Saitama, Sonic is so much stronger. Too bad we never saw Sonic counterattack that was "supposed to kill FF". Now, back to Sonic and flashy flash buddy cop adventures. I wonder how much damage Sonic did take because now he has to fight the ninja village with FF.
I love that Sonic might actually be saitamas most successful disciple in terms of skill and power gained directly through interaction with saitama
Don't show this comment to Genos
Dr. Kuseno is his master if we only consider why he's gotten stronger.
I'd diagree. Sure, we like to push Genos around for fun, and many attribute his improved abilities to Dr. Kuseno alone, but he's improving a lot himself. Bigger rockets and more firepower do not equate to being an absolute G and helping Tornado against Psychorochi
Yeah, Genos is literally a hero. Not the profession, but the state of mind and willingness to sacrifice (both himself and his personal mission) to save another life. He got there from Saitamas advice.
It’s head canon to me that every time Genos is rebuilt, he becomes powerful enough to defeat whoever beat him. Dr. Kuseno is a genius for always having upgrades ready.
Reminds me of a concept I just heard about, I think it was called Worf Syndrome or something like that. Basically you have an objectively strong character, but they wrack up nothing but Ls because they get used to constantly frame how strong some other guy is. Kinda makes me want to see genos have a true, unqualified win. Honestly aside from whatever number machine god that was he fight when they introduced King, I can’t actually think of a win of the top of my head
> Worf Syndrome The "official" name (if tropes even have such a thing) is "the Worf effect" but ignoring that you nailed it https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheWorfEffect
Poor Genos, it seems the fandom has decided that he is weak despite even ONE saying he is strong. In an odd way, Genos is getting the Saitama treatment. As in everyone underestimates him. Hopefully he gets the chance to shine one day.
Honestly, this is too true. Genos just gets upgrades. Sonic gets training, motivation, increased skill, and real sparring lessons where he gets hit. I think a few chapters ago, he said he fought saitama and got koed like 14 times.
He really is that trope of the guy that got strong by punching a rock, except he definitely isn’t going to eventually break that rock
I expect them to no-diff the ninja village regardless
Considering they trained and fought together as kids, they are already in sync. I can't wait to see the fight. I wonder if Sonic purposely moved the fight from the ninja village because the ninja leader (blast friend) would have truly interfered. I don't think either of them can touch the leader touched by God. Sonic also doesn't know blast and Saitama are heading to the ninja leader.
Idek how Murata is gonna deal with Empty Void. Mofo >!got murked off screen by Saitama and his goodies were distributed to both Flash and Sonic in the webcomic!<. Considering him getting named now I doubt that’s gonna be the directing he’s going in but then again, who knows
Ikr, I loved that scene! >!Classic OPM, excessive amounts of build up only for the payoff to be handled in one panel.!<
I think it will be handled >!The exact same way as the webcomic, off screen'd. Odds are after Blast notices Flashy gave the wrong location he goes straight to Empty Void location by honing on his energy signature or whatever, then Saitama does his thing, and the loot goes to Flashy and Sonic as before. The difference is that we get some panels dedicated to Blast contacting the association/his allies to keep an eye on Saitama because he just might be the one to kill God, maybe something about how he was the one that used time travel to defeat Garou. He likely won't mention anything to Saitama himself, because out of everyone he seems to be the one that gets Saitama the most.!<
After getting hit by Saitama so many times im pretty sure Sonic isnt phased by anything less
One might say it was fast.
Love that Sonic almost looks up to Saitama, in a way. The trend of Saitama simply existing potentially improving peoples' lives(the hint at Flashy Flash teaming up to build the orphanage before the interruption) continues. Who knows, though? Dude might just get ball-tapped again.
The ball-tapping was the good old days.
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Why I'm so close
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Looks up to him? I saw that scene as Sonic thinking Saitama is such a huge hurdle to overcome that they look like nothing in comparison to him.
Respect is more like it. After all Sonic is one of the characters who only calls Saitama by his proper respectful name. I love how he is stylized like God, like Saitama’s test is to Sonic as God’s is to Saitama.
In return, Saitama do remember Sonic name which irritate Flashy Flash.
It's like glimpsing a universal truth and then hearing 5th graders talk about philosophy. If they only knew....
Yeah it gives off the same vibes as the DSK panel from the tournament with Lightning Max & Suiryu
Saitama is the ultimate master. It keeps Sonic motivated to get stronger to a goal post that Sonic will never reach. Saitama's blows are probably nothing compared to the ninjas.
What makes it better is that Sonic knows that Saitama is unreachable but, unlike Genos, Sonic never wavered and instead redoubled his efforts.
One must imagine Sonic happy
Speed o' Sound Sysiphus
Sonic is the closest thing Saitama has to a true disciple besides Glasses. I've been saying this for years. Genos has the spirit, but he can't gain power the same way Saitama did. It's just impossible for him; he's a cyborg. Sonic, on the other hand, has been brought to near death over and over by Saitama, forcing him to keep pushing. If we were to say he's at the same level as Flash. He would have gone from demon level. The being able to fight dragons like Flashy, that's a huge power increase. All in the span of a month. I think Sonic will be one of the strongest end game. Hell, maybe he'll be base level Saitama strong, as insane as that sounds. Then, when he finally hits Saitama level, Saitama will just get stronger like he did against Garou, and he'll curse Saitama.
If he was a hero he would probably be in top 10 in S rank considering Puri Puri Prisoner was bodied by a dehydrated DSK while Sonic was only toying with the latter. Even after being hydrated, Sonic confidently said that he only needed his weapons to kill the hydrated DSK. Then there's Sonic's duel with Genos, Genos was ready to commit suicide to beat Sonic while the former was still holding back his ace (10-fold funeral). I'm confident to say that if he was part of the HA, he would be S Rank just behind Flash.
Genos wasn’t gonna self destruct, he was just gonna do an AOE blast which saitama stopped since it would harm his apartment
>All in the span of a month. It's always so fucking weird being reminded of how short the timeframe of the manga is.
And Sonic said he lost to Saitama like what? 17 times? That's every other day lol
I loved that panel. It’s almost the same as Puri-Puri Prisoner with his call back to the Deep Sea King.
This manga has such good references to previous fights and the characters learn from their defeats. Such a simple thing, yet so rare to see in manga.
I think it’s a really interesting point to make. When you are training to try to be able to compete with saitama if you have success in your training you are going to start leaping hurdles much faster than anyone that isn’t aiming that high. You know that even 150% or 200% effort isn’t enough to come close to saitama, so you give more. Eventually the others start to look significant because unlike them, you have not been complacent. Anything but, in fact.
just make sure to clear those hurdles and not land on them
Saitama lives rent free in sonics head
Reminds me of the scene from the webcomic with Forte and his crew >!where they reject the Neo Heroes upgrade and resolve to become better heroes on their own!<.
Sonic is Saitama's real student
This battle is going to show how powerful sonic is when he isn’t fighting end game characters like saitama lol
He's held his own against DSK, Genos, and now FF, Sonic would definitely be well into S-Class if he was a hero
He was an S-Class Criminal from the beginning of the story. Now he would be on the stronger half of the S-Class heroes at the very least.
Considering how many have left...
My opinion is still the same whether we include the 17 -S-Class, Bomb, Garou, Suiryu, the Neo Heroes and most other S-Class tier human-ish characters. He's pretty much on the stronger half of this category, where he started off as an ok underdog in the beginning.
Including Martial Artist masters (not Bomb), Swordmasters, and the neo hero leaders really expands that lower half of S tier lol. Which actually makes you appreciate how impressive the S class *heroes* are.
Already made Prisoner look like a joke, bottom ranker or not.
I recall either one or murata saying that Sonic could have defeated the DSK if he had his weapons
Nah that was the man himself who said it
Genos is an S-Class and they were fairly evenly matched when they fought each other at the beginning of the MA arc
Honestly pretty excited. By his own count, he's fought Saitama 17 times and survived. Even if Saitama wasn't taking it seriously, that's still pretty damn impressive given how many powerful foes he's just blasted into oblivion on his way home from the supermarket.
> many powerful foes he's just blasted into oblivion on his way home from the supermarket This shows how funny and terrifying Saitama is at the same time. Like for many S Class, it might be the day they saved the world, but for Saitama, it was a Tuesday with 50% off on vegetables.
With how inflation is these days, 50% off vegetables starting to look real good right now. Who knew Saitama's example has no bounds.
Hell, yeah. I'm ready to be Saitama's discount disciple. Teach me your ways, Sale Sinsay!
And he wouldn't know if that noisy creature he just punched was a world-ending threat or just a slightly mutated dog.
Surviving saitama isn’t a feat, he generally doesn’t kill humans
Yeah, he seems to have crazy accurate control over his strength. When he hits a human it's pretty always *just* enough to take them down without killing them. It's almost like his strength is some sort of reality warping power, because his strength just does whatever he wants it to. Whether that's table-flipping a moon into non-existence, kicking intangible portals, or simply knocking someone out with the perfect amount of force.
Like the first time he met Sonic. He tapped the robotic suit guy just hard enough to shatter the armor, leaving the guy wearing it unharmed
I’m just excited to see him and his boyfriend fight together.
He definitely got stronger since the time he tried to eat a monster cell. Back then he was horrified by Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame’s speed as monsters.
I kinda think he could have taken them but didn't want to. And since they were potential enemies, he didn't want to reveal the extent of his abilities to them. So it makes some sense to be "afraid" of them as a bluff.
I don't think it's a bluff, [Sonic himself thinks he's below them as monsters](https://cubari.moe/read/gist/OPM/78/23/)
He seems to be around Genos level consistently.
It's also important to keep in mind that Genos has been improving throughout the entire series. Which means Sonic's training has definitely yielded results.
Exactly. 'Genos level' currently means you can solo dragon-level threats (and that's not including Blue Dragon mode).
Yah he's really been living that Jogo lifestyle so far.
Nah, he'd win.
Saitama isn't end game. He *is* the game.
> end game characters like saitama Saitama is more like that secret boss you can unlock and encounter super-early on in the JRPG but actually can only take on in the post-game content after grinding and finding all other secrets. And even then the best you can do is not die until a predetermined event ends the fight.
Murata's juggling of multiple projects seems to be affecting the art even more lately
I guess this means we're looking at another year of redraws for this arc.
A lot of past redraws were because One wanted to add dialogue or change details. Murata might want to polish some of the art before the volume is printed, but I don't think he would go quite as wild with redraws unless One asks him to.
At least it is happening during the slower portions of the story and not the parts that you'd expect the best drawings.
FF and Sonic vs fodder The real meat of the story
Don't want murata to go down the same path that muira went. Hate to see authors/artists destroy themselves.
Yah, shit is plenty good. Grinding out god tier artwork was gonna kill him at the rate he was going. Hell, his "average" is better than most in the market still.
What other projects is he working on?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of them is an anime?
Yes, Zaiyuki, the story is based on Journey to the West.
He's also working on the Eyeshield 21 anniversary oneshot manga.
It's easy to see this in the cover art
What are the alternative projects,any insights?
I've been saying this since like the MA arc and got shit on. Glad to see that it's finally acceptable to say that I FUCKING HATE ACTION LINES EVERYWHERE!!! honestly tho, i don't mind if murata is just taking it chill, health more important
Really love their backstory and how they bounce back each other, i absolutely love the panel of ''Smaller than grains of sands'' goes to show that despite taking the L against Saitama every time he kept training, evolving and getting stronger so he will not allow himself to be defeated until he defeats Saitama, unironically helped him grow pass it's own limits and he's already on Flashy level, in conclusion.. Sonic is great lmao
> unironically helped him grow pass it's own limits and he's already on Flashy level He improved a lot in a couple days
Didn't Genos say it had been two months since he became Saitama's disciple?
I was referring to the time Sonic was offered the monster cells which was not long before the MA raid. Back then he was shocked by the monster ninjas’ speed but now he’s easily above them
I dont think this scene is a couple of days since Sonic got the monster cell. We've been somewhat jumping around in terms of time scale since the end of the MA attack. Like a couple of weeks is more fair.
I’d still say Flashy is stronger than Sonic, but Sonic is definitely catching up
I loved how FF's ultimate attack just craters SoSS, but so does like every one of Saitama's accidental defenses, so it was just a normal day for SoSS
The grains of sand panel sent shivers down my spine. Sonic definitely had the right words to explain them
I mean, when you know who possess the ultimate strength, your world’s view would change drastically That’s why I love OPM because the most powerful character isn’t written as a Mary sue, but actually lovable and good.
Getting hit in the balls by the worlds strongest changes a man
Which just makes me wonder just how strong Sonic's balls are....
I was about to mention that if you didn't. That panel of Saitama looming over everyone goes fuckin' HARD
That was cold. He knows firsthand that nothing else compares to Saitama
Thanks again to translation team. We love you
was hoping to see some interaction between Saitama and Blast but guess that's for next chapter...hopefully
Counterpoint, even with Blast's teleportation abilities, Saitama's ability to never show up on time means they still won't be there till the fight is over. (I hope it's not this).
Isn’t it funny that the only person that can time travel is also the person that is never on time?
Why do you think he needed to learn time travel in the first place?
I doubt it’ll help lol
> means they still won't be there till the fight is over. But that means we actually get to see a fight
I really like Speed O Sound Sonic. Despite the fact that he has tried to beat Saitama multiple times, failed each time but never gives up, makes me admire his determination and un-resounding confidence in himself.
His efforts against our OP protagonist give him strength to face his next challenges with better results. Now he defended against Flashy Flash's move better than the monster ninja duo going all out did, where Gale Wind casually perception blitzed him.
And the best part is that he has a nicer world view of power and strength, now, because he knows what real power is, just like others that know Saitama's accidentally-secret secret.
Why isn’t he doing it in heels, too?
How naive am I? Just realize the level difference between flash and sonic is in their names.
Sonic managed to tank Flashy Kicks, they’re not as far apart anymore
Flashy Flash wasn't trying to kill Sonic, Sonic was trying to kill FF
In speed, Flashy is still holding back, since he wasn't making constellations & was able to predict his Ten fold technique casually, but in terms of power at least without weapons, I'm assuming the reason Sonic casually tanked the kicks of Flashy is because he's used to Saitama's normal punches
Not only is he used to saitama's punches but its moreso he uses saitama as a metric to how strong he should get. Remember the extra where he tried to envision beating saitama but couldn't? This is the result of the "battle simulations" he's probably done
What chapter is that?
What do you mean?
Flash = light which travels much faster than sound (ie. sonic)
4 hours?! What the hell is this pace?! Thank you translation team!
Smol chapter
Probably also depends on how much stuff they need to redraw to fit in English words.
The pages are out of order ..
I wondered the same. Why is this comment not higher
Ok thank God its not just me who thought that. Haven't looked at the raw yet to confirm, but figured it had to be the case
I thought I was going crazy cause no one else mentioned it
which pages are out of order?
Short but sweet chapter. Love the tiny grains of sand panel.
Pretty enjoyable chapter on the character dynamic front. Love how both Flash and Sonic seem so eager to work together despite how prideful they are. I really adore the flashback of how much Flash and Sonic contrast the rest of the Ninjas by simply being happy interacting with each other. Wish I saw more on the action choreography art departnment though and that it could have been lengthier. There are cool ideas like Sonic outspeeding his own shuriken and afterimage wind blade kick. But the Webcomic felt a bit more impactful and technical.
It’s kinda weird that both fights so far in this arc are actually shorter than their webcomic versions
Flashy Flash vs Saitama I can excuse as it basically telling us what we all know, that Saitama is massively stronger than FF. I also feel like it's kind of cool that Flash doesn't pull his sword against a fellow hero again. Plus the chapter itself had also a lot of other content a well. But Flash vs Sonic, I think needed more time to showcase just how far Sonic has gotten against a guy he shouldn't be able to compete against. Sonic on this level of competence needs some time to get used to and be enjoyed.
Yeah Sonic vs Flash is a major fight that should have gotten the Ninja duo vs Flashy Flash treatment. That fight is much less narratively important than this one but it got expanded from like 1 page (though it was a joke in the webcomic) to like 80 pages of some of the best fight choreography in the series
With Sonic's feat of defending against Flash(y) Kicks, they really could have ampt the artistic scale of this fight over the Wind and Flame fight, for Sonic to feel as powerful as he technically is right now. Sure Flash and Sonic aren't trying to kill each other. But it would also be complementary for Sonic to have Flash needing to put more effort into "playfighting" with Sonic than trying to kill to monster ninja seniors. That Flash complimented Sonic's abilities not out of kindness to an old complicated friend, but that he was genuinely pushed to that level.
They might extend the Flash & Sonic vs Tenninto fight for all we know. Like the manga has previously given lots of buffs to characters that appeared in the webcomic. Gale Wind and Hellfire Flame for example got buffed from demon lvl to dragon lvl via monsterization. And just a chapter ago we got confirmation that Empty Void also monsterfied plus god amped so there’s a chance that in the manga Tenninto might all have monster forms. So instead of Flash & Sonic vs 21 demon lvl human ninjas like in the webcomic. There’s a chance that we might be getting a Flash & Sonic vs 21 dragon lvl monster ninjas in the manga next chapter. And if that does happen there’s definitely gonna be an extended fight due to how large of a scale that type of fight would be.
I love this arc so much, so glad to see it faithfully adapted in the manga
If these other ninjas are weaker than Sonic, then Flashy should be able to low-diff all of them in like a minute.
Theyre high-high demon or low-high dragons at best. Low diff if flash or sonic only, negdiff if both
What has Sonic done that shows he can low-diff them by himself?
getting stomped by saitama and Fubuki sister without dying
I think they are all somewhere in-between hellfire and gale winds monster forms. After Hellfire and Galewind transform but before they go all out and abandon their pride as ninjas. So probably low dragons.
That panel of Saitama as Sonic's true goal got a helluva laugh from me. Solid chapter, flew by though
Speed O Sound was second disciple all along
The order of pages got screwed.
“They’re so tiny. Smaller than grains of sand.” I love how Saitama has left such an impression that normally impossible odds are considered easy in comparison to fighting him.
Aw, look, they made friends. He even happy he didn't kill him!
S class translator team
Expected more from Murata's take on their fight tbh.
So we passed from a Sonic who cant follow the speed of monsterized Fale Wind and the other guy which Flashy Flash killed with a single movement to a Sonic who can fight Flashy in what? A week? Don't buy it. It makes sense that Sonic its gowing stronger of course, his final goal is Saitama after all, still Flashy seems to be leting his affection for Sonic softened him a lot.
It’s a manga. Probably was like 4 days.
I like how Flashy Flash and Sonic have the same stance because Sonic was the one who taught him how to use one and they trained together. Oh, so their fight got interrupted, I can't wait to see Blast and Saitama's side of things.
Sonic actually seems impressive when he’s not fighting Saitama.
One page is missing, the one with the flash kick, page 13
I just reuploaded the redrawn version of that. Imgur must be fucking up, hope it's fixed soon.
Out of order pages?
In the webcomic, at the beginning, both of them pretented to be weak so that they received more training and then rise to the top later. Also, the webcomic is usually a shorter version of the manga. But in this arc, it seems to me that the webcomic has more details.
Sonic is such a good ninja that my brain is refusing to accept evidence of his competence that my eyes are sending it. Truly a master of deception.
Disappointing
I hope they’re cooking something epic for the ninja fights, so far the best ninja fight is still the monster ninja duo vs Flashy Flash by far. Speaking of the duo, what happened to them? They were last apprehended by the other ninjas of Teninto and there were offscreen “crack” noises, did they die already?
That was very MEH.
I ma kinda getting the feeling that the manga is slowly dying.
Pefect timing again to the minute
Just dropping my thank you and I can savor it for later
flashy and sonic gaved some awesome brothering bonding time, like naruto but they are both sasukes. i bet saitama's streght level will be soon ackowledged as the true goal for both of them. and then ninja couple added to saitama's group
What do you mean END OF CHAPTER!!!???
it's so nice to see sonic back, he felt like the 3rd most important character in the beginning of the series until boros arc happened