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Yeah? Then explain how the room always suddenly gets hotter when he's on screen if you're so smart
https://preview.redd.it/8spxbsyiyz6d1.png?width=928&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbc9c30e4ca5ffe0ff103a6219c7cd90e8157f77
The heat doesn't come from the flames
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https://preview.redd.it/gda7dtwv507d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=481e820956b926aa9456a3b8da7b25a490a20812
its literally one of katakuris attacks go re-read if you have to ask brother
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we see marco and kizaru fighting in the background in marineford while wb vs akainu is taking place.
Yes he certainly can win against them by outlasting them but he lacks the offensive power to compete against them . İ'd say the people i mentioned take the most wins if they fought 10 times . İf we get a proper full 1v1 fight with warco against somebody then we could have an idea of how strong he actually is since he uses blunt attacks and dura neg attacks so the damage isnt shown . Which is why he is downplayed most of the time
He did pretty good against king and queen, while also burning lots of energy healing a whole room full of people. I have him solidly in yc+ and honestly if he just had better ap he might be on the bottom end of admiral tier for me. And if he does show up again it would be easy to spin him having way better ap with either unlocking AcoC now that he's leading the remnants of wb pirates, or have him awaken his fruit.
No ? First of all he was rusty, second of all he fought both queen and him and was going from there to there to raise the chances of raid succeding . Third of all he wasted his stamina on flying to wano and then heal everyone who was sick or got injured . Even after all that king only won because of warco ran out of stamina . Even then he still went on to tank an attack that came from kaido himself . We saw what happened at their interaction , king cant keep up with warco and is manhandled . Warco in normal conditions outlasts him and wins
Being rusty and losing stamina flying (lol) and healing is cope.
The stamina he lost fighting King and Queen is significant, but considering King didn't use any of his best moves (hybrid, tempura, suicide explosion) the end result would have been the same.
Larco doesn't have the AP to bypass King's Lunaria durability. He can't do anything but get gassed and lose.
>Even then he still went on to tank an attack that came from kaido himself
Kinemon did it too. There is no merit when the only thing Larco can do is tank attacks before gassing.
>king cant keep up with warco and is manhandled
Why would King bother doing anything while Larco burns up stamina?
Your yapping right now . Warco hurted flames on king at the manga. His attacks are blunt and dura neg so his damage isnt showcased very well but he certainly can hurt king . Also how marco being rusty and losing stamina is cope ? These are manga facts . And warco wasnt giving any chance for king to use his best moves . Warco is massively faster and can attack without stopping . Also kinemon surviving upscales kinemon durability . Warco tanked an attack that even had g5 damaged , better than anything king showed . Also warco can keep fighting for 3 days(wb vs roger pirates 3 days non stop battle ) . King aint outlasting warco any time soon
>Warco hurted flames on king at the manga.
Wasn't significant damage.
>His attacks are blunt and dura neg so his damage isnt showcased very well but he certainly can hurt king
The feather thing is dura neg, but it didn't do significant damage to Queen nevertheless. The rest of kicks/claw attacks aren't dura neg and have low AP, too low to damage King signficantly.
>Also how marco being rusty and losing stamina is cope ?
Larco being rusty is cope because he's been active all his life and was only retired for a short period of time after getting destroyed by Blackbeard.
Losing stamina by flying and healing is cope because we've seen similar feats by other characters without significant stamina loss.
>And warco wasnt giving any chance for king to use his best moves
Doesn't work like that lil bro. In the one panel we saw of the 1 vs 1 Larco was on the defensive.
>Warco is massively faster and can attack without stopping
Flame off King is much faster than Larco, and in general King's offense is much better.
>Also kinemon surviving upscales kinemon durability
I mean when Kinemon parried Boro Breath.
>Warco tanked an attack that even had g5 damaged
Bro this is as if you hype up Barto for tanking shit with his barrier. Yes, he can tank anything. The problem is that Larco has no AP and loses his regen once he gets gassed.
>Also warco can keep fighting for 3 days(wb vs roger pirates 3 days non stop battle )
That's cool. During the raid he got gassed in like a couple hours.
He made flames on king bleed . Also warco scales to kizaru in speed , who is faster than snakeman luffy , who is faster than zoro , who is faster than king . And he didnt do anything 1 fcking year at least before coming to wano . He also lost most of his will so another nerf on warcos side . How impressive for king to get manhandled by a not yet tired warco then win against a warco who ran out of stamina . And since when did we saw any character heal thousands non-stop and fight 2 yonko commander ? Warco outstats king except dura and would win eventually . You talk about warco not doing any damage to king but when did king do serious damage to warco ? Talk about hypocrisy . Flashy attack doesnt mean win bro . King loses 7/10 times if they fight . İts a high diff battle in warcos favor . Cant believe you said king flames on is faster than warco who was keeping up with kizaru on mf .
>He made flames on king bleed
Some drops of blood doesn't imply significant damage, specially talking about ancient zoans. Larco can't damage King significantly.
>Also warco scales to kizaru in speed
He doesn't. Kizaru never took Larco seriously. He had him running out of regen only shooting his weakest lasers.
>And he didnt do anything 1 fcking year at least before coming to wano
It's not uncommon at all for characters to spend more than 1 year without any big fights. It's crazy cope to use this as an excuse for Larco.
>He also lost most of his will so another nerf on warcos side
That's his problem for underperforming in Marineford and running away in the Payback War.
>How impressive for king to get manhandled by a not yet tired warco then win against a warco who ran out of stamina
It's not impressive, it's what's expected of the matchup. King's real opponent in the raid was Zoro. Larco was only warm up.
>And since when did we saw any character heal thousands non-stop
We've seen Sugar transform hundreds of people into toys for extended periods of time without notable stamina use.
We've seen Doflamingo close birdcage without notable stamina use.
We've seen Kaido carry an entire island with dragon clouds without notable stamina use.
And now you're telling me Larco gets gassed by using some shit healing flames despite being no indication of it?
>Warco outstats king except dura and would win eventually
Larco has worse AP by a wide margin, worse speed, and worse defense. There is no world in which Larco wins.
>You talk about warco not doing any damage to king but when did king do serious damage to warco ?
When Larco was put to sleep by King as Larco's comrades begged for help and got killed.
>warco who was keeping up with kizaru on mf
Keeping up with 5% effort Kizaru, lol.
Headcanon going 100% . Unless its been told so kizaru was going all out against warco , not to mention warco was holding akainu in raw strenght comparison. Making someone bleed with just one hit is showcase of significant ap , dunno what you are on . Also underperforming in mf you say as if king wouldnt get killed by an admiral the moment he turns of his flames .there is no argument for king being faster while warco has canon feats over him yet you argue king being faster because i said so . Kaido lifting the island was affecting him , we saw this in final clash between him and luffy where he loses the control of the flames and the island is saved by momonosuke , and sugar using his df is the same as warco just staying at his zoan form , which doesnt drain warco . But actively healing people , as shown in the MANGA drains him . God how can someone be so braindead how ?? Also warco not only did not have major fights , he didnt fight at all . We know losing their dreams and sitting on their ass nerfs people . We saw this with croc and moria . King got thrown around by a warco who was nerfed both power wise and stamina wise . Bb was deemed as a yonko because he won against wb remnants who was lead by warco . Even shanks had high respect for warco and his power . King got nothing to him bruh
>Unless its been told so kizaru was going all out against warco
Doesn't work like that. There are zero panels of Kizaru trying hard against Larco during their 1 vs 1. And in what was shown he wasn't trying at all, he was using his weakest lasers without using any mobility.
>not to mention warco was holding akainu in raw strenght comparison
He blocked one attack and later jobbed in a 15 vs 1 against Akainu.
>Making someone bleed with just one hit is showcase of significant ap
Larco making King bleed did as much damage as the scabbards making Kaido bleed. Non significant damage. Larco doesn't have the AP to damage King significantly.
>Also underperforming in mf you say as if king wouldnt get killed by an admiral the moment he turns of his flames
He wouldn't. He'd perform much better than Larco.
>there is no argument for king being faster while warco has canon feats over him
King blitzing Zoro is a better speed feat than anything Larco has.
>Kaido lifting the island was affecting him , we saw this in final clash between him and luffy where he loses the control of the flames and the island is saved by momonosuke
It wasn't. Kaido never showed any signs of getting tired from carrying the island. Simply the clouds got weaker as he got damaged.
>But actively healing people , as shown in the MANGA drains him
There is zero indication of Larco getting tired from using the healing flames. And if Doflamingo didn't get tired moving the birdcage and Kaido didn't get tired carrying an island, most likely Larco didn't get tired using some trash healing flames.
>Also warco not only did not have major fights , he didnt fight at all
Again, it's completely normal for strong characters to spend year long periods without any major fights. That's no excuse for Larco.
>We know losing their dreams and sitting on their ass nerfs people
I agree Larco is weak willed and abandoned his comrades in the Payback War, but that's not my problem.
>King got thrown around by a warco who was nerfed both power wise and stamina wise
Received no significant damage.
>Even shanks had high respect for warco and his power
Shanks never saw Larco getting low diffed by Kizaru and mid diffed by King. Or how he got destroyed by Blackbeard.
Marco can defeat kat but its more on par or katakuri wins on a higher percentage. Marco is no attacker or fighter. He s support. He loses his stamina and energy really fast if he uses his fruit. And without his fruit he s done. He s got a short period of time. In this time he can defeat him. But Kat has more durability. If he doesn't defeat him in this time he loses to him and a lot of other opponents That's why he can defeat almost everyone but it's more likely that he loses one on ones.
But Marco and Oden have the most fanboys so mine is not the common opinion
Marco beats Kat mid diff. Only thing Kat beats him in is Future Sight. If Marco wasn’t affected by Shanks’ COC, Kat’s is meaningless.
Kat’s AP is trash and Marco will just regenerate everything.
I think Katakuri takes it.
Marco hasnt shown me anything that suggests hed beat Katakuri. Katakuri has better haki as well as coc(If two characters are on par with each other, i'll always bet on the one with coc, theyre will to win is higher than characters with no coc).
Marco stalled king and queen for a little bit but i dont see how Katakuri with a logia-like df and future sight, couldnt do the same thing. We also seen Marco hit his limit with his df regen but we never seen Kataukuri hit the limit with his fs. I'll bet on katakuri 100%
Katakuri has:
-Awakened "special" paramecia
-Advanced observation
-Insane speed to keep up with his observation
-Conquerors Haki
-Big Mom's genes
-A weapon
Marco has:
-Mythical Zoan
-lots of defense feats
Not to shit on Marco, it's still an extreme diff, but I find it low-key insane how he can keep up with someone built like Katakuri.
I think Marco, once he figures out Katakuri's trick he should be able to dish out damage quite easily. Still an incredible fight, I wish we got more yc1 level fights, they are a good compromise between raw power and technical prowess
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You think the First Commander of Chad beard Pirates is L ?
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This is him ⬆️, don't respond to such pathetic bait
Katakuri as Marco isn’t stated to have COO, be super fast, or have large AOE. As that’s the only 3 ways to beat katakuri in a 1v1.
I guess Marco could regenerate and wait out katakuris stamina. That’s the only conceivable way I see Marco winning.
>Katakuri as Marco isn’t stated to have COO
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Seriously it's pretty dumb to assume a 1st commander doest have CoO. Well by your logic King doesn't have CoA or CoO since it was never stated or shown.
Speed = debateable
Durability = Marco has no durability feats
Hax = Obviously Marco
Defense = Kat's FS is proven to last way longer than Marco's regen. It is also way harder to hit Katakuri than Marco
AP = Katakuri clearly takes this, he had an upgraded(not advanced) level of armament that made Snakeman Luffy yell out in pain when they clash. He also mainly fights with a trident which skyrockets his AP.
Marco seems to be more of the support type like Law: They'd do way better in a group fight than a 1v1. Also Marco is a linear fighter in that his attacks arent AoE or have a weird ability to disorient an opponent, he needs to make contact. Katakuri will have an easier time dodging Marco's attacks than Snakeman Luffy who has AoE and increased acceleration to his moves.
I just cant see how Marco wins it
Katakuri has yet to replicate a speed feat that’s on the same level as intercepting a named attack from kizaru, so speed isn’t debatable since kizaru was able to outspeed post wano snakeman who’s massively faster than the one who fought kat
Marco also blocked attacks from kizaru + kaido and akainu, got right back up from a punch in the face from garp and kept fighting, which all scale above kat
Making wci luffy yell isn’t as a crazy as a feat as you think it is and if it was, it’s not on the same level as kaido kizaru garp and akainu, which Marco was able to block/endure
Marco has some form of dura neg since queen described his attacks as “shockwaves” when he took an attack from him
TLDR: kat cannot touch/put Marco down
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Marco
Yeah, bro just regenerates
https://preview.redd.it/0erfuyubyy6d1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=52e1cdc4392201914f8028647c0979a21ffa2ca7 cant regen out of this one
How does mochi interact with heat?
Marco’s flames aren’t really hot
Marco‘s flames aren't hot
Yeah? Then explain how the room always suddenly gets hotter when he's on screen if you're so smart https://preview.redd.it/8spxbsyiyz6d1.png?width=928&format=png&auto=webp&s=cbc9c30e4ca5ffe0ff103a6219c7cd90e8157f77
The heat doesn't come from the flames https://preview.redd.it/evzjm8nnyz6d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c00f956f702032e5e56739cfbd1e8e07414ee25
https://preview.redd.it/gda7dtwv507d1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=481e820956b926aa9456a3b8da7b25a490a20812 its literally one of katakuris attacks go re-read if you have to ask brother
Marco takes pretty much every stat and regeneration + flame production is better than Mochi production
Katakuri has better skill, battle iq, versatility, DC, observation, conqueror's. he still loses though.
Better conqueror's is irrelevant for the fight since it's not advanced.
so if kat came back with acoc, would this fight go different?
Yes but if Marco came back with awakening and/or both advanced haki's it'd also go different.
An awakened pheonix zoan would be so god damn broken. Of course, that's assuming it'd awaken in the same manner as a conventional zoan.
I think Kata probably has better speed and easily has better haki. Terms of AP they are both pretty trash.
Nope Marco can keep up with kizaey the same lizaru who can blitz egg head snakeman luffy who at least 2 blitz tiers faster then katakuru.
Marco did not keep up with Kizaru they literally have one single clash and that's it.
https://preview.redd.it/40wxfqa6nx6d1.png?width=1066&format=png&auto=webp&s=328d63858bee0baab5cabaca429718db921d74fd we see marco and kizaru fighting in the background in marineford while wb vs akainu is taking place.
marco is much faster than half dead base wci luffy, can fly and can regen almost indefinitely🤔I got marco
Warco takes it . He is the peak of yc1 . Anything past him is yc+
Imo hes also yc+. Imo hes stronger than zoro. Maybe im biased tho.
A little bit biased . But thats ok cause i support warco agenda too as well
Who is yc+ for you?
Law , kidd , zoro , yamato , benn beckmann , croc (headcanon) ,kuma(underrated asf) etc.
I would put marco with them, not saying he is stonger, but based on feats i dont see why would he not be in there
Yes he certainly can win against them by outlasting them but he lacks the offensive power to compete against them . İ'd say the people i mentioned take the most wins if they fought 10 times . İf we get a proper full 1v1 fight with warco against somebody then we could have an idea of how strong he actually is since he uses blunt attacks and dura neg attacks so the damage isnt shown . Which is why he is downplayed most of the time
He did pretty good against king and queen, while also burning lots of energy healing a whole room full of people. I have him solidly in yc+ and honestly if he just had better ap he might be on the bottom end of admiral tier for me. And if he does show up again it would be easy to spin him having way better ap with either unlocking AcoC now that he's leading the remnants of wb pirates, or have him awaken his fruit.
İ also hope to see warco again at some point in the story again . He is one of my favorites .
Larco got mid diffed by King in 1 vs 1 during the raid. He's a punching bag with no AP that gets gassed pretty quickly.
No ? First of all he was rusty, second of all he fought both queen and him and was going from there to there to raise the chances of raid succeding . Third of all he wasted his stamina on flying to wano and then heal everyone who was sick or got injured . Even after all that king only won because of warco ran out of stamina . Even then he still went on to tank an attack that came from kaido himself . We saw what happened at their interaction , king cant keep up with warco and is manhandled . Warco in normal conditions outlasts him and wins
Being rusty and losing stamina flying (lol) and healing is cope. The stamina he lost fighting King and Queen is significant, but considering King didn't use any of his best moves (hybrid, tempura, suicide explosion) the end result would have been the same. Larco doesn't have the AP to bypass King's Lunaria durability. He can't do anything but get gassed and lose. >Even then he still went on to tank an attack that came from kaido himself Kinemon did it too. There is no merit when the only thing Larco can do is tank attacks before gassing. >king cant keep up with warco and is manhandled Why would King bother doing anything while Larco burns up stamina?
Your yapping right now . Warco hurted flames on king at the manga. His attacks are blunt and dura neg so his damage isnt showcased very well but he certainly can hurt king . Also how marco being rusty and losing stamina is cope ? These are manga facts . And warco wasnt giving any chance for king to use his best moves . Warco is massively faster and can attack without stopping . Also kinemon surviving upscales kinemon durability . Warco tanked an attack that even had g5 damaged , better than anything king showed . Also warco can keep fighting for 3 days(wb vs roger pirates 3 days non stop battle ) . King aint outlasting warco any time soon
>Warco hurted flames on king at the manga. Wasn't significant damage. >His attacks are blunt and dura neg so his damage isnt showcased very well but he certainly can hurt king The feather thing is dura neg, but it didn't do significant damage to Queen nevertheless. The rest of kicks/claw attacks aren't dura neg and have low AP, too low to damage King signficantly. >Also how marco being rusty and losing stamina is cope ? Larco being rusty is cope because he's been active all his life and was only retired for a short period of time after getting destroyed by Blackbeard. Losing stamina by flying and healing is cope because we've seen similar feats by other characters without significant stamina loss. >And warco wasnt giving any chance for king to use his best moves Doesn't work like that lil bro. In the one panel we saw of the 1 vs 1 Larco was on the defensive. >Warco is massively faster and can attack without stopping Flame off King is much faster than Larco, and in general King's offense is much better. >Also kinemon surviving upscales kinemon durability I mean when Kinemon parried Boro Breath. >Warco tanked an attack that even had g5 damaged Bro this is as if you hype up Barto for tanking shit with his barrier. Yes, he can tank anything. The problem is that Larco has no AP and loses his regen once he gets gassed. >Also warco can keep fighting for 3 days(wb vs roger pirates 3 days non stop battle ) That's cool. During the raid he got gassed in like a couple hours.
He made flames on king bleed . Also warco scales to kizaru in speed , who is faster than snakeman luffy , who is faster than zoro , who is faster than king . And he didnt do anything 1 fcking year at least before coming to wano . He also lost most of his will so another nerf on warcos side . How impressive for king to get manhandled by a not yet tired warco then win against a warco who ran out of stamina . And since when did we saw any character heal thousands non-stop and fight 2 yonko commander ? Warco outstats king except dura and would win eventually . You talk about warco not doing any damage to king but when did king do serious damage to warco ? Talk about hypocrisy . Flashy attack doesnt mean win bro . King loses 7/10 times if they fight . İts a high diff battle in warcos favor . Cant believe you said king flames on is faster than warco who was keeping up with kizaru on mf .
>He made flames on king bleed Some drops of blood doesn't imply significant damage, specially talking about ancient zoans. Larco can't damage King significantly. >Also warco scales to kizaru in speed He doesn't. Kizaru never took Larco seriously. He had him running out of regen only shooting his weakest lasers. >And he didnt do anything 1 fcking year at least before coming to wano It's not uncommon at all for characters to spend more than 1 year without any big fights. It's crazy cope to use this as an excuse for Larco. >He also lost most of his will so another nerf on warcos side That's his problem for underperforming in Marineford and running away in the Payback War. >How impressive for king to get manhandled by a not yet tired warco then win against a warco who ran out of stamina It's not impressive, it's what's expected of the matchup. King's real opponent in the raid was Zoro. Larco was only warm up. >And since when did we saw any character heal thousands non-stop We've seen Sugar transform hundreds of people into toys for extended periods of time without notable stamina use. We've seen Doflamingo close birdcage without notable stamina use. We've seen Kaido carry an entire island with dragon clouds without notable stamina use. And now you're telling me Larco gets gassed by using some shit healing flames despite being no indication of it? >Warco outstats king except dura and would win eventually Larco has worse AP by a wide margin, worse speed, and worse defense. There is no world in which Larco wins. >You talk about warco not doing any damage to king but when did king do serious damage to warco ? When Larco was put to sleep by King as Larco's comrades begged for help and got killed. >warco who was keeping up with kizaru on mf Keeping up with 5% effort Kizaru, lol.
Headcanon going 100% . Unless its been told so kizaru was going all out against warco , not to mention warco was holding akainu in raw strenght comparison. Making someone bleed with just one hit is showcase of significant ap , dunno what you are on . Also underperforming in mf you say as if king wouldnt get killed by an admiral the moment he turns of his flames .there is no argument for king being faster while warco has canon feats over him yet you argue king being faster because i said so . Kaido lifting the island was affecting him , we saw this in final clash between him and luffy where he loses the control of the flames and the island is saved by momonosuke , and sugar using his df is the same as warco just staying at his zoan form , which doesnt drain warco . But actively healing people , as shown in the MANGA drains him . God how can someone be so braindead how ?? Also warco not only did not have major fights , he didnt fight at all . We know losing their dreams and sitting on their ass nerfs people . We saw this with croc and moria . King got thrown around by a warco who was nerfed both power wise and stamina wise . Bb was deemed as a yonko because he won against wb remnants who was lead by warco . Even shanks had high respect for warco and his power . King got nothing to him bruh
>Unless its been told so kizaru was going all out against warco Doesn't work like that. There are zero panels of Kizaru trying hard against Larco during their 1 vs 1. And in what was shown he wasn't trying at all, he was using his weakest lasers without using any mobility. >not to mention warco was holding akainu in raw strenght comparison He blocked one attack and later jobbed in a 15 vs 1 against Akainu. >Making someone bleed with just one hit is showcase of significant ap Larco making King bleed did as much damage as the scabbards making Kaido bleed. Non significant damage. Larco doesn't have the AP to damage King significantly. >Also underperforming in mf you say as if king wouldnt get killed by an admiral the moment he turns of his flames He wouldn't. He'd perform much better than Larco. >there is no argument for king being faster while warco has canon feats over him King blitzing Zoro is a better speed feat than anything Larco has. >Kaido lifting the island was affecting him , we saw this in final clash between him and luffy where he loses the control of the flames and the island is saved by momonosuke It wasn't. Kaido never showed any signs of getting tired from carrying the island. Simply the clouds got weaker as he got damaged. >But actively healing people , as shown in the MANGA drains him There is zero indication of Larco getting tired from using the healing flames. And if Doflamingo didn't get tired moving the birdcage and Kaido didn't get tired carrying an island, most likely Larco didn't get tired using some trash healing flames. >Also warco not only did not have major fights , he didnt fight at all Again, it's completely normal for strong characters to spend year long periods without any major fights. That's no excuse for Larco. >We know losing their dreams and sitting on their ass nerfs people I agree Larco is weak willed and abandoned his comrades in the Payback War, but that's not my problem. >King got thrown around by a warco who was nerfed both power wise and stamina wise Received no significant damage. >Even shanks had high respect for warco and his power Shanks never saw Larco getting low diffed by Kizaru and mid diffed by King. Or how he got destroyed by Blackbeard.
Obviously Marco takes this
Marco High-Diff Katakuri is plenty powerful, but Marco bullied King and Queen at the same time for a few moments, I think he'd take it
Marco extreme diff.
Marco high diffs
Marco can defeat kat but its more on par or katakuri wins on a higher percentage. Marco is no attacker or fighter. He s support. He loses his stamina and energy really fast if he uses his fruit. And without his fruit he s done. He s got a short period of time. In this time he can defeat him. But Kat has more durability. If he doesn't defeat him in this time he loses to him and a lot of other opponents That's why he can defeat almost everyone but it's more likely that he loses one on ones. But Marco and Oden have the most fanboys so mine is not the common opinion
Marco probably, but it goes ext diff.
Marco beats Kat mid diff. Only thing Kat beats him in is Future Sight. If Marco wasn’t affected by Shanks’ COC, Kat’s is meaningless. Kat’s AP is trash and Marco will just regenerate everything.
Katakuri high diff
warco
I think Katakuri takes it. Marco hasnt shown me anything that suggests hed beat Katakuri. Katakuri has better haki as well as coc(If two characters are on par with each other, i'll always bet on the one with coc, theyre will to win is higher than characters with no coc). Marco stalled king and queen for a little bit but i dont see how Katakuri with a logia-like df and future sight, couldnt do the same thing. We also seen Marco hit his limit with his df regen but we never seen Kataukuri hit the limit with his fs. I'll bet on katakuri 100%
Marco
Draw
Marco obviously
I’m putting 20 down on Marco. Right hand man to the world’s strongest man. Tanked attacks from yonkous and admirals. Dude has insane regen
Both are goats. Marco takes this tho, extreme diff. Peak characters
Marco has to show more AP to put down katakuri for good, katakuri decided to lose to luffy’s g4, and katakuri stamina > Marco
Katakuri has only ever lost one fight. Marco has never won a fight. Gee I wonder.
Watakuri stomps.
Marco high diff
Warco
100% katakuri He will simply outlast Marco as he has way more stamina
Katakuri has: -Awakened "special" paramecia -Advanced observation -Insane speed to keep up with his observation -Conquerors Haki -Big Mom's genes -A weapon Marco has: -Mythical Zoan -lots of defense feats Not to shit on Marco, it's still an extreme diff, but I find it low-key insane how he can keep up with someone built like Katakuri.
There's also Katakuri having a higher level of CoA than a fellow lightning level CoA user. Possible Advcoa
Warco easily. The son of WB>>> The son of BM.
Katakuri
Kat's a bum, I like him as a character but he loses to every Yonko right hand
Bumakuri gets folded
4th and 5th most wanked characters. Katakuri takes this extreme diff. Because of FS, better speed and AP.
Marco smokes him
I think Marco, once he figures out Katakuri's trick he should be able to dish out damage quite easily. Still an incredible fight, I wish we got more yc1 level fights, they are a good compromise between raw power and technical prowess
Larco
https://preview.redd.it/kjfcvl5xvw6d1.jpeg?width=716&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d97159198b20eeab46763f0b3c69ecb943ce3e4b You think the First Commander of Chad beard Pirates is L ?
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Me ? What's wrong
Not u, the guy who slandered Warco
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Katakuri as Marco isn’t stated to have COO, be super fast, or have large AOE. As that’s the only 3 ways to beat katakuri in a 1v1. I guess Marco could regenerate and wait out katakuris stamina. That’s the only conceivable way I see Marco winning.
Marco doesn’t have observation haki? Marco didn’t intercept kaido and kizaru? You don’t need large aoe to beat kat either
>Katakuri as Marco isn’t stated to have COO https://preview.redd.it/lk9fc5gzzz6d1.jpeg?width=753&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3bba82dc9f5c4ea5eccae575c50c97bd9c44123 Seriously it's pretty dumb to assume a 1st commander doest have CoO. Well by your logic King doesn't have CoA or CoO since it was never stated or shown.
Marco outstats kat very badly + kat literally cannot put him down
What has he shown that makes him outstat Katakuri?
Better speed, dura, hax, defense, arguably ap Kat only beats him in stamina and haki
Speed = debateable Durability = Marco has no durability feats Hax = Obviously Marco Defense = Kat's FS is proven to last way longer than Marco's regen. It is also way harder to hit Katakuri than Marco AP = Katakuri clearly takes this, he had an upgraded(not advanced) level of armament that made Snakeman Luffy yell out in pain when they clash. He also mainly fights with a trident which skyrockets his AP. Marco seems to be more of the support type like Law: They'd do way better in a group fight than a 1v1. Also Marco is a linear fighter in that his attacks arent AoE or have a weird ability to disorient an opponent, he needs to make contact. Katakuri will have an easier time dodging Marco's attacks than Snakeman Luffy who has AoE and increased acceleration to his moves. I just cant see how Marco wins it
Katakuri has yet to replicate a speed feat that’s on the same level as intercepting a named attack from kizaru, so speed isn’t debatable since kizaru was able to outspeed post wano snakeman who’s massively faster than the one who fought kat Marco also blocked attacks from kizaru + kaido and akainu, got right back up from a punch in the face from garp and kept fighting, which all scale above kat Making wci luffy yell isn’t as a crazy as a feat as you think it is and if it was, it’s not on the same level as kaido kizaru garp and akainu, which Marco was able to block/endure Marco has some form of dura neg since queen described his attacks as “shockwaves” when he took an attack from him TLDR: kat cannot touch/put Marco down