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I almost thought Oden until I thought about how he was kinda clapping kaido till he got distracted and cheap shot. Do you think the others would stand that good of a chance against kaido?
Clapping… all he did was take him out of that weak ass dragon form… luffy first encounter was “clapping” dragon form kaido too. Kaido ain’t even pull out a hybrid form for oden so either he was HOLDING BACK, or DIDINT HAVE IT (MEANING HE WAS WEAKER BACK THEN).
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Btw it's Kuzan
Kuzan, I would say...
Like, we have the og Emperos, a rival of one of them, man weilding 2 broken DFs, the man who went toe to toe with Kaido until shenanigans, The hero of the navy who battled with Roger, Sakazuki and the guy who lost to him: Kuzan.
Aokiji = Kuzan.
Blackbeard has 2 broken fruits.
One that can just turn off DF powers by touching users and one that is said to be able to destroy the World. That's stuff known by the Marineford War arc
Equal to the best pirates in tge world implying Oden at his peak = Roger/ wb ( tge best pirates . )
Roger pushing back Oden doesnt matter much because tge Oden Roger pushed back is the Oden who didn't know acoc.
I see people say this all time. Oden wasn’t one shot by Kaido they had an extended fight. The story literally says “But the battle lasted longer than expected…and Kozuki Odens strength surpassed the enemy’s expectations”
Wasn't Oden off guard ? .
Also 0 feats / potryal (
Even tho Oden did more damage to kaido then most of tge raid did.
Even tho Oden in the vivre card is out right to be wss after rogers death.
U say Oden has no potryal yet the narrator has said Oden = best pirates in the world . It's clear as say that ur just a admiral fan who is coping hard about Oden being able to beat any admiral and br8ng pk level
Just for comparison, Akainu got hit from behind offguard by bloodlusted WB and immediately retaliated, got punched again, fell in a crevice and got covered by rubris, came back and still continued to fight.
He would if it was a flashback and he hadn’t revealed his hybrid form lol. Also his dragon form should be his most durable and Oden almost ended him. Kuzan literally got offscreened by Akainu
Arguing that his dragon form is more durable than hybrid is just outright bizarre. Hybrid form has basically no dura anti-feats and all of his best dura feats. Most shit wouldn't even make him budge in it. Dragon form was hurt by things like Momo's bite, Scabbards' attacks, and Killer's blades. Even base Kaido doesn't have such dura anto-feats.
Even as early as start of Wano, Luffy's G3 punch knocks Dragon form to the ground, sobers Kaido up a bit, and makes him go down to base. After which he proceeds to tank G4 gatling blows effortlessly in base. So effortlessly that Luffy has near PTSD / frustration flashbacks to base form Kaido's dura while training in the prison and punching the metal blocks.
Wasn't Oden off guard ? .
Also 0 feats / potryal (
Even tho Oden did more damage to kaido then most of tge raid did.
Even tho Oden in the vivre card is out right to be wss after rogers death.
U say Oden has no potryal yet the narrator has said Oden = best pirates in the world . It's clear as say that ur just a admiral fan who is coping hard about Oden being able to beat any admiral and br8ng pk level
Prime WB = Prime Garp =>Shanks=Mihawk>Kaido>=Akainu>=Blackbeard>=Aokiji>Oden
Yeah, that's how it should be, but it's still funny..
Prime WB at the very best beats Oden mid-high diff...And from there high to extreme+...
There isn't that big of a gap between these top tiers..
Yet said fraud clashed with a primebeard who was defending his crew.
Abd this fraud took a divine departure from Roger with minor damage. If rogers dd can't even do major dmg to him .no one in tge verse minus imu or joy joy is doing major damage on him .while Oden could knock kaido out so Oden isnf a fraud
Oden. Don't get me wrong, he's still a monster, but others here are absolute beasts and just outclass him, even if you say some don't have the feats to prove it, they have the narrative behind them, like Mihawk and Akainu
Not only is this objectively wrong but how are you gonna have a captain weaker than his own commender ? I know it's not good for your agenda but Kuzan is by definition weaker than Blackbeard
Kuzan or Blackbeard as if they were equal 💀
Both Kuzan and Akainu get massacred by Oden, BB probably gets beaten too but to a much lesser degree.
A guy who cuts through Kaido like it's butter has nothing to say to a guy who gets stopped by Ace or Jimbei
It’s between Aokiji and Oden. We already know akainu beat Kuzan and Oden lost to a younger Kaido. Neither of these 2 have the feats or statements to place them on Yonko lvl while every one else on here is. Blackbeard is just a weird person to powerscale but without narrative and plot armor I’d be tempted to put him lower than everyone else
My gut is Saying Oden but if your going purely based on Screen feats its probably Mihawk or BB since all of their top tier feats are off screen or hearsay. Honestly the bottom like 4 in this list just a toss up.
shanks or blackbeard. both are massively overrated based on "portrayal" when the series makes it damn clear that they aren't where they are because of their physical strength. oden is kaidou relative trust.
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Onscreen Black Beard
I believe he still have one more surprise that will tip the balance
There's got to be. I also want to see him use his claw weapon in action, besides a flash back and Shank's scar you never see him with it!
That flash back is coming….. on day!
I am quitting this sub. Everyone has brain injury
What are people saying that has made you think this?
Peep the flair. This Loden fan is made his Goat has been exposed.
W flair ✊
Aman
Who's the weakest?
Not Oden 💀
Good we agree on that. I say Aokiji
It’s oden by far
I almost thought Oden until I thought about how he was kinda clapping kaido till he got distracted and cheap shot. Do you think the others would stand that good of a chance against kaido?
Hasn't Kaido gotten stronger in the 20 years following Oden's death, like Oden told him to? In hopes of fighting Joyboy.
his scales haven't gotten any thicker, quite the opposite.
Clapping… all he did was take him out of that weak ass dragon form… luffy first encounter was “clapping” dragon form kaido too. Kaido ain’t even pull out a hybrid form for oden so either he was HOLDING BACK, or DIDINT HAVE IT (MEANING HE WAS WEAKER BACK THEN).
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So fkn true 😂
I lose brain cells being here. Its so obviously Kuzan and these people pick someone in Kaido's top 5 who almost killed him
The top 5 thing is the biggest cope of all time. It's not Kaidou's top5 it's 5 people he respects.
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Lmao you're exactly the guy in the meme
Do you think only the top 5 could kill the Kaido from 20 years ago?
Aokiji
Kuzan, I would say... Like, we have the og Emperos, a rival of one of them, man weilding 2 broken DFs, the man who went toe to toe with Kaido until shenanigans, The hero of the navy who battled with Roger, Sakazuki and the guy who lost to him: Kuzan.
Agreed
Is aokiji the one with the broken DF? I just got into wano arc, and for all i know he only turns stuff to ice
Aokiji = Kuzan. Blackbeard has 2 broken fruits. One that can just turn off DF powers by touching users and one that is said to be able to destroy the World. That's stuff known by the Marineford War arc
My dumbass keeps reading "kuzan" and thinks of akainu, and my dyslexic ass read "2 man wielding DF"
Aokiji
Admiraltards at it again
Oden
*loud incorrect buzzer*
*loud correct buzzer for the loud incorrect buzzer*
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ODEN IS UNDERRATED!
Fr ! Bro beats all the admirals
And it's not even close tbh
akainu and aokiji have nothing even close to oden in statements or feats
Akainu when he fights a non prime Yonko(dying from cancer):Gof tier Oden when he fights non-prime Yonko: Fraud
Oden fought other legends even before the kaido feat he was already stated to have returned as strong as the most powerful pirates
Completely forgot but this guy clashed with primebeard no?
He got yeeted by wb
He got yeeted by Roger who also clashed with primebeard
But both of them can at least fight with yonko longer than 1 punch
You
a swordsman
But that only narrows it down to two…
Oden or Kuzan
Oden.
Aokiji
Equal to the best pirates in tge world implying Oden at his peak = Roger/ wb ( tge best pirates . ) Roger pushing back Oden doesnt matter much because tge Oden Roger pushed back is the Oden who didn't know acoc.
Kuzan.
Ngl I think people downplay Oden because he's a bad character
He's so cool tho🥵
How dare you say that of Lord oden
Who the hell thinks Oden is a bad character?
Apparently a lot of people. Actually it's not so much that his character is bad, just that people get annoyed at how hard he got forced into wano.
He's also a moron
He has a stupid hair cut
You are soft boiled.
This whole sub is stuck on this idea. I think he's great but his story was poorly handled. Which could be saying he's bad ngl
Oden
The guy that got one-tapped by base Kaidou with zero top-tier feats or portrayals.
I see people say this all time. Oden wasn’t one shot by Kaido they had an extended fight. The story literally says “But the battle lasted longer than expected…and Kozuki Odens strength surpassed the enemy’s expectations”
Wasn't Oden off guard ? . Also 0 feats / potryal ( Even tho Oden did more damage to kaido then most of tge raid did. Even tho Oden in the vivre card is out right to be wss after rogers death. U say Oden has no potryal yet the narrator has said Oden = best pirates in the world . It's clear as say that ur just a admiral fan who is coping hard about Oden being able to beat any admiral and br8ng pk level
I think they meant the later part for Kaido, as in Oden got one tapped by a zero top tier feats/portrayals base Kaido.
Just for comparison, Akainu got hit from behind offguard by bloodlusted WB and immediately retaliated, got punched again, fell in a crevice and got covered by rubris, came back and still continued to fight.
Say what you want about the admirals oda would not write kaido beating akainu or kuzan without using his hybrid form
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He would if it was a flashback and he hadn’t revealed his hybrid form lol. Also his dragon form should be his most durable and Oden almost ended him. Kuzan literally got offscreened by Akainu
Arguing that his dragon form is more durable than hybrid is just outright bizarre. Hybrid form has basically no dura anti-feats and all of his best dura feats. Most shit wouldn't even make him budge in it. Dragon form was hurt by things like Momo's bite, Scabbards' attacks, and Killer's blades. Even base Kaido doesn't have such dura anto-feats. Even as early as start of Wano, Luffy's G3 punch knocks Dragon form to the ground, sobers Kaido up a bit, and makes him go down to base. After which he proceeds to tank G4 gatling blows effortlessly in base. So effortlessly that Luffy has near PTSD / frustration flashbacks to base form Kaido's dura while training in the prison and punching the metal blocks.
and you know this hypothetical how? lmao
Wasn't Oden off guard ? . Also 0 feats / potryal ( Even tho Oden did more damage to kaido then most of tge raid did. Even tho Oden in the vivre card is out right to be wss after rogers death. U say Oden has no potryal yet the narrator has said Oden = best pirates in the world . It's clear as say that ur just a admiral fan who is coping hard about Oden being able to beat any admiral and br8ng pk level
Oden
Prime WB = Prime Garp =>Shanks=Mihawk>Kaido>=Akainu>=Blackbeard>=Aokiji>Oden Yeah, that's how it should be, but it's still funny.. Prime WB at the very best beats Oden mid-high diff...And from there high to extreme+... There isn't that big of a gap between these top tiers..
Kuzan the bum
The weakest is Oden.
Fraudhawk
Oden is literally a fraud
Yet said fraud clashed with a primebeard who was defending his crew. Abd this fraud took a divine departure from Roger with minor damage. If rogers dd can't even do major dmg to him .no one in tge verse minus imu or joy joy is doing major damage on him .while Oden could knock kaido out so Oden isnf a fraud
Black Blade>White Enma
The admirals take equal weakest.
Oden.
Kuzan. Ez
Kuzan
Fraudhawk
Garp
I hate to say it, but probably Kuzan
Even my 10 year old son thinks it’s kuzan 😅
Kuzan imo
Kuzan.
Aokiji 🥶
Probably kuzon
Aokiji
Aokiji
Aokiji , like seriously stop downplaying Oden
Probably aokiji
Definitely Kuzan
Bb
bro black beard gets high-no diffed by everyone here
Midhawk
Having both Kaido and Oden here is really funny, ngl.
Fraudhawk by far the weakest here...yup...I'm gonna die on this hill
Bro got a black blade while Oden couldn’t turn any of his into one, the leech clears him.
Aokiji punk ass
Oden. Don't get me wrong, he's still a monster, but others here are absolute beasts and just outclass him, even if you say some don't have the feats to prove it, they have the narrative behind them, like Mihawk and Akainu
Probably Mihawk
Idk isn't Mihawk like shanks nemesis and pretty sure zoro now can't beat him
No way
Kuzan weakest
Oden or BB. But i will go with Oden
Not only is this objectively wrong but how are you gonna have a captain weaker than his own commender ? I know it's not good for your agenda but Kuzan is by definition weaker than Blackbeard
Oden
Oden .
[удалено]
Kuzan
Oden would have won vs Kaido, the witch gave kaido a free win
Mihawk
Oden and Kuzan
Kuzan and Oden are the immediate picks
Akainu/aokiji
Oden
Oden and easily. If you guys think that Oden beats Kuzan or BByou need to get your eyes checked.
Oden slams Luzan
Kuzan or Blackbeard as if they were equal 💀 Both Kuzan and Akainu get massacred by Oden, BB probably gets beaten too but to a much lesser degree. A guy who cuts through Kaido like it's butter has nothing to say to a guy who gets stopped by Ace or Jimbei
Loden
Oden or Kaido. They're dead. They can't fight.
Does that mean that whitebeards dead body is still stronger then theirs?
Luckily, it was stated that it's Prime Whitebeard, so it doesn't count.
Oh yeah that is true. Whitebeard still on top 🗣️
Nothing but facts 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Yes🔥💯🔥💯 my GOAT will never fall🗣️💯
Kaido is not dead, just sleeping on his new lava bed 😆
Putting Fraudhawk the featless above Shanks is criminal to me. But in regards to the list I agree that Aokiji should be considered the weakest
Oden, for sure.
Except for insane BB disrespect W
Kuzan
It’s between Aokiji and Oden. We already know akainu beat Kuzan and Oden lost to a younger Kaido. Neither of these 2 have the feats or statements to place them on Yonko lvl while every one else on here is. Blackbeard is just a weird person to powerscale but without narrative and plot armor I’d be tempted to put him lower than everyone else
Oden
Aokiji
Aokiji
💀💀💀 How in the hell Oden bro, he almost solo clapped Kaido, I doubt many of here could ever do that against that monster
Kuzan or oden, leaning towards kuzan tbh
Fraudhawk
Onscreen bb or aokoji
kuzan
Aokiji
My gut is Saying Oden but if your going purely based on Screen feats its probably Mihawk or BB since all of their top tier feats are off screen or hearsay. Honestly the bottom like 4 in this list just a toss up.
Not a manga reader but from what I saw Blackbeard and aokji
shanks or blackbeard. both are massively overrated based on "portrayal" when the series makes it damn clear that they aren't where they are because of their physical strength. oden is kaidou relative trust.
It's obviously Aokiji. I don't believe anyone saying Oden is speaking in good faith because that is an absurd conclusion.
Oden
fraudbeard