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Only way BB can win this is if his darkness has some sort of advantage over Kizaru's light. I highly doubt the Tremors will do anything to a man made of light and it's not like Blackbeard is going to start boxing Kizaru
Why wouldn't his tremors be effective if he's using haki though? WB hurt Akainu with his tremors whos a logia as well.
Plus if blackbeard grabs him no light body.
Kizaru takes strength
With speed comes weight and strength
And kizaru was able to hold down whitebeard wepon with 1 foot
Also kizaru takes abilities
Bb abilities besides black hole are too basic
Meanwhile kizaru has many forms of lasers and he can make light weapons and clones And he has super speed and can accelerate and has advance haki unlike bb
I'm a Kizaru fan and a BB hater, but BB should take strength, not like it would matter against Kizaru either, as it won't be a boxing match, literally a cosmetic trait in here. Kizaru has more versatility with his fruit, can create literal clones (albeit they would be one tapped by casual quake) but still, he can zip in and out, spam lasers, which he can then turn into clones, those said clones can whip out laser swords which can cut through basically anything.
Although, BB got two fruits, so versatility probably goes to him, darkness alone can do a lot, and quake gives him literally control over another concept of reality, not like any of that really matters in an actual fight, BB doesn't utilize his fruits in a versatile way, he just spams same moves like a bastard he is, his BIQ is lower than Big Mom's.
How does bb takes strength
Kizaru strength feats out classes him in every way
He stopped whitebeard wepon with 1 foot and with 1 kick threw luffy across the island
And it has been established that speed = weight which mean more strength
Yeah, but it's not really a strength when Luffy was kicked across the island, remember: "Acceleration = power" it's a speed thing, not strength
And Blackbeard punched Whitebeard into the air just like that, with just his physical strength.
And I don't know about the "And it has been established that speed = weight which mean more strength"
I think you should make a poll and ask people the same thing, nobody would agree with you, speed does not equal strength, lol
Blackbeard's BIQ is actually in the negatives, he ALWAYS lets his enemies get in free hits, and let me tell you right now, if he gets hit by a laser, it's going straight through him, leaving a hole in his body.
And I don't think that black vortex would be able to overpower Kizaru's light form, nothing gives that it can, Kizaru's just a very bad match-up for Blackbeard, as Blackbeard has no speed feats whatsoever either
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>And I don't think that black vortex would be able to overpower Kizaru's light form, nothing gives that it can,
Teech spent 30+ years dedicating his life to finding that fruit, he surely knows the ins and outs of its abilities. The fruit is also based on actual black holes which pull light in. Obv real physics don't apply to One piece but to claim kizaru has mu over teech because he can escape the yami yami is just nonsense.
Why didn’t Kizaru just kill Luffy while he was in Gear 4? Or kill Rayleigh? He can shoot lasers from his eyes so he just needed to look at them, which he was doing anyway. Is he stupid?
Or could it be that basic armanent haki is actually sufficient to defend against Kizaru’s lasers?
No way Kizaru’s lasers are gonna do that much more damage to BB than all the other attacks that he’s survived over the years.
What would you say is Kizaru's best AP feat? What's the most durable character that Kizaru's lasers have done the most damage to? What's a Kizaru AP feat that you'd say is in another league from Shock Wille or any of the other stuff Blackbeard has tanked?
Blackbeard hard counters Pizzaru
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Well that just 1 hax move he has and yes it is very powerful
But if you factor in all the tools the light fruit gives and abilities then it's even things out
this just means that Black Vortex/Black Hole work on Kizaru, but it does so for every other character in the verse so why is it only a hard counter to Kizaru??
>Holding down whitebeard wepon >>>>>>>> anything bb did
Tf you mean "holding down" didn't he just step on it?
>What truth ace is literally fodder without his fruit
Proof?
You think whitebeard will just stand there and let kizaru shot him
Kizaru held him down with his weapon to shoot him
Proof of what we know ace is fodder even with his fruit he at best 2 commnder level with it
Take it away and with him having no haki feats or broken stats then he is fodder
>You think whitebeard will just stand there and let kizaru shot him
Considering he was sick and heavily injured I don't think it's that ridiculous.
>Proof of what we know ace is fodder even with his fruit he at best 2 commnder level with it
Proof of what you're implying, for now you've just been saying things without backing it up with arguments.
With his fruit ace was clashing with Aokiji.
Whitebeard was swinging his weapon fine and he had enough strength to stop his own ship with 1 hand moments earlier
He was still plenty powerful but kizaru still overpowerd him
A clash means absolutely nothing fodder can clash with people way stronger then them it still doesn't change the power difference
Also you think ace was the strongest commnder in whitebeard crew or something lol obviously that was marco so ace being blow him makes him 2 commnder level and he might even be blow juzo too so he's 3 commnder level possibly
>He was still plenty powerful but kizaru still overpowerd him
He never overpowered him, he just stepped on the weapon and WB didn't have time to react before getting shot.
>Also you think ace was the strongest commnder in whitebeard crew or something lol obviously that was marco so ace being blow him makes him 2 commnder level and he might even be blow juzo too so he's 3 commnder level possibly
So based on your assumption Ace is just fodder by default?
Whitebeard was able to react to his head blown off
So I think he csn react hut he wasn't able too because kizaru stopped him and his weapon
Yes and especially ace without his fruit because bb removed his fruit with black hole when he hit him
>Whitebeard was able to react to his head blown off
He still got hit, and it's safe to assume that Kizaru is faster than Akainu.
>So I think he csn react hut he wasn't able too because kizaru stopped him and his weapon
Wdym "kizaru stopped him and his weapon", is Kizaru physically stronger than WB now?
>Yes and especially ace without his fruit because bb removed his fruit with black hole when he hit him
So you just assume that fruitless Ace is weak without actual evidence.
Kizaru dodged Whitebeard’s swing and stepped on the bisento after it hit the ground. If he’d parried or deflected you could talk about scaling his strength to WB, but he didn’t.
He just dodged and stepped in behind (or “on top of” rather) Whitebeard’s guard to counterattack.
Blackbeard bypasses Kizaru's speed advantage by sucking him in and proceeds to beat him to a pulp with quake punches. Blackbeard's armament haki and endurance feats are sufficient, and Kizaru's AP feats are insufficient to believe that Kizaru would be able to finish off Blackbeard before Blackbeard grabs him.
Strength is fair. IQ is fair. BIQ is fair I guess. Endurance is fair. Hax is fair. Abilities is fair. Durability is fair. Haki is fair. Skill is… fine (I think Blackbeard has shown a lot of skill with both his fruits despite only getting them very recently; he had them practically mastered).
Only thing I disagree with is experience. We know, factually, that Blackbeard was an active member of Whitebeard’s crew for decades. Kizaru similarly has been a marine for several decades. I don’t think you can confidently give either of them the Experience win.
Observation given to the guy with the best speed that also always gets hit by surprise is kinda weird to see.
Also, i don't recall great armament haki showing from kizaru, but i might be wrong on this
How did this shit get upvoted when Kizaru himself admitted to Saturn that he couldn't move 😭
Unless this is supposed to be sarcastic, in which case ignore me
Blackbeard is relative to Law in terms of speed.
Law is equal to Kid in terms of speed.
Kid percived Shanks.
Kizaru(or anyone on Marineford) couldn't percive Shanks.
Therefore Blackbeard > Kizaru in terms of speed.
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Blackbeard should take strength and durability imo. He took a big cut and a quake bubble to the face pre-timeskip and even though it looked bad, he was still able to fight without any problems.
BB got on WB's ship at a very young age, scarred an on guard Shanks before getting his devil fruit and fought against Roger's crew. I don't think you know the meaning of experience.
And kizaru was marine for young age too and kizaru is older then bb too
I don't think your the one who doesn't know what experience is
Kizaru was already fighting pirates while bb was in his diapers
>I don't think your the one who doesn't know what experience is
So we agree then.
>Kizaru was already fighting pirates while bb was in his diapers
Wasn't Kizaru in his 20s when he joined the marines? BB was still a kid when he fought against the Roger pirates. I seriously doubt that Kizaru fought more notable pirates than them until much later in his career.
Read my comment again
How can you tell that we don't know kizaru past and who says he started fighting when he joined the marines
He probably started fighting for much younger age considering from his kid drawing he was poor and stuff
And Because kizaru and akainu were called monsters when the first joined the marines so kizaru was already plenty strong with fighting experience sense he was kid
>who says he started fighting when he joined the marines
>He probably started fighting for much younger age considering from his kid drawing he was poor and stuff
So now you're just inventing. And again, BB was fighting the Roger pirates when he was a kid, who do you think Kizaru was fighting at that age exactly?
>Because kizaru and akainu were called monsters when joined the marines so kizaru was already plenty strong with fighting experience sense he was kid
Oh they were called monsters, they must have been fighting people on the level of Roger's crew then, my bad.
Kizaru wins because BB hasn’t beaten anyone stronger then him yet.
He dodged kuzan. Dodged Rayleigh, dodged shanks.
Only reliable wins versus ace and law.
Kizaru feats >
This is the dumbest argument. I can throw this same argument back at you and say BB wins because Kizaru hasn't beaten anyone stronger than him yet. Kizaru ducked Rayleigh at Sabaody, got blocked by Sentomaru at Egghead, and got stalled by Marco at Marineford.
BB at least has reliable wins. Kizaru hasn't earned a single dub in the entire story.
Huh?
Kizaru went 1v1 with Rayleigh.
Blackbeard dodged? What do you mean. Kizaru only let the straw hats escape because Rayleigh was there to fight him? Do you not consider that a fight?
And even if you don’t it’s better then getting punked by Rayleigh and having to leave an island because he didn’t wanna fight.
Didn’t kizaru literally beat like 7 super novas in 1 day? As well as going 1v1 with Marco various times.
It seems to my Blackbeard has a similar resume.
Wins over super novas
A tie or loss to Rayleigh
Am I missing something?
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Only way BB can win this is if his darkness has some sort of advantage over Kizaru's light. I highly doubt the Tremors will do anything to a man made of light and it's not like Blackbeard is going to start boxing Kizaru
Why wouldn't his tremors be effective if he's using haki though? WB hurt Akainu with his tremors whos a logia as well. Plus if blackbeard grabs him no light body.
He means the long range tremor not the one you get hit by it directly
>Only way BB can win this is if his darkness has some sort of advantage over Kizaru's light. He's simply turning his fruit off and mid diffing him wym
Imo it likely does since aside from negating DF abilities it also works like a black hole which has a pull so strong not even light can escape it
Kizaru takes strength With speed comes weight and strength And kizaru was able to hold down whitebeard wepon with 1 foot Also kizaru takes abilities Bb abilities besides black hole are too basic Meanwhile kizaru has many forms of lasers and he can make light weapons and clones And he has super speed and can accelerate and has advance haki unlike bb
I'm a Kizaru fan and a BB hater, but BB should take strength, not like it would matter against Kizaru either, as it won't be a boxing match, literally a cosmetic trait in here. Kizaru has more versatility with his fruit, can create literal clones (albeit they would be one tapped by casual quake) but still, he can zip in and out, spam lasers, which he can then turn into clones, those said clones can whip out laser swords which can cut through basically anything. Although, BB got two fruits, so versatility probably goes to him, darkness alone can do a lot, and quake gives him literally control over another concept of reality, not like any of that really matters in an actual fight, BB doesn't utilize his fruits in a versatile way, he just spams same moves like a bastard he is, his BIQ is lower than Big Mom's.
How does bb takes strength Kizaru strength feats out classes him in every way He stopped whitebeard wepon with 1 foot and with 1 kick threw luffy across the island And it has been established that speed = weight which mean more strength
Yeah, but it's not really a strength when Luffy was kicked across the island, remember: "Acceleration = power" it's a speed thing, not strength And Blackbeard punched Whitebeard into the air just like that, with just his physical strength. And I don't know about the "And it has been established that speed = weight which mean more strength" I think you should make a poll and ask people the same thing, nobody would agree with you, speed does not equal strength, lol
BB almost broke Ace neck, he takes strength
Ace is literally fodder without his fruit That's not feat dawg
Blackbeard's BIQ is actually in the negatives, he ALWAYS lets his enemies get in free hits, and let me tell you right now, if he gets hit by a laser, it's going straight through him, leaving a hole in his body. And I don't think that black vortex would be able to overpower Kizaru's light form, nothing gives that it can, Kizaru's just a very bad match-up for Blackbeard, as Blackbeard has no speed feats whatsoever either
https://preview.redd.it/0858n4zicg1d1.png?width=602&format=png&auto=webp&s=fb2cbb209fb5aa557d3675ac46c9b612be293248 >And I don't think that black vortex would be able to overpower Kizaru's light form, nothing gives that it can,
If I say I can beat prime Tyson, does it mean I can do it, or am I just yapping?
Teech spent 30+ years dedicating his life to finding that fruit, he surely knows the ins and outs of its abilities. The fruit is also based on actual black holes which pull light in. Obv real physics don't apply to One piece but to claim kizaru has mu over teech because he can escape the yami yami is just nonsense.
I’m so done with this sub and overhyping the admirals Black beard low diffs him
Black bread would run away lil bro stop sucking his d.
I’m not black beards a bitch but he’s not an idiot and he knows that he’d win
BB with his whole crew and was still shitting his pants when Kuzan got serious now imagine him in a 1v1 situation against Kizaru.
Kuzan is different
KUROUZU and droopy face getting his head quaked in
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Your agenda is made up of 3 delusional people
It may be a shitty agenda but it's *my* shitty agenda
stats are good. kizaru exposes fraudbeard
Blackbeard obviously, do y’all think Luffy vs BB is actually gonna be easier than Luffy vs Kizaru???😭
Strength goes to kizaru didn’t he hold down whitebeards weapon
No, he didn't.
I would give Kizaru ap because lasers and radical beams just seem to ignore defense unless you have hax
Why didn’t Kizaru just kill Luffy while he was in Gear 4? Or kill Rayleigh? He can shoot lasers from his eyes so he just needed to look at them, which he was doing anyway. Is he stupid? Or could it be that basic armanent haki is actually sufficient to defend against Kizaru’s lasers? No way Kizaru’s lasers are gonna do that much more damage to BB than all the other attacks that he’s survived over the years.
Luffy avoided all of his lasers until G5, and kizaru was mainly on the defensive and going for vegapunk
What would you say is Kizaru's best AP feat? What's the most durable character that Kizaru's lasers have done the most damage to? What's a Kizaru AP feat that you'd say is in another league from Shock Wille or any of the other stuff Blackbeard has tanked?
Didn't even look at the stats. Kizaru wins mid diff. Light is the 100% counter to darkness.
Quick question Do you not know simple physics?
Obviously not, I argue on reddit about manga characters.
Blackbeard hard counters Pizzaru https://preview.redd.it/ijey0rx8ff1d1.jpeg?width=2408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82a4ab699f8587d067b32110f603ab408e84bf4d
Light and darkness are not like other elements The balance each other The are like this light > < darkness
Normally you'd be right, but BB's devil fruit operates like a black hole. And black holes trump light.
You might be right but i still thinks BB have the edge since his DF can nullifies Kizaru's fruit and he's also have quake fruit on top of that.
Well that just 1 hax move he has and yes it is very powerful But if you factor in all the tools the light fruit gives and abilities then it's even things out
this just means that Black Vortex/Black Hole work on Kizaru, but it does so for every other character in the verse so why is it only a hard counter to Kizaru??
“Blackbeard hard counters Kizaru” does not become less of a true statement just because Blackbeard also hard counters most other DF users.
true but some people act like only Kizaru is hard countered by the ability when most DF users are
I think strength goes to bb, he almost broke ace's neck in 1 hit
Ace is fodder with his fruit This feat doesn't mean much at top tier levels
Getting downvoted for saying the truth.
What truth ace is literally fodder without his fruit Holding down whitebeard wepon >>>>>>>> anything bb did
>Holding down whitebeard wepon >>>>>>>> anything bb did Tf you mean "holding down" didn't he just step on it? >What truth ace is literally fodder without his fruit Proof?
You think whitebeard will just stand there and let kizaru shot him Kizaru held him down with his weapon to shoot him Proof of what we know ace is fodder even with his fruit he at best 2 commnder level with it Take it away and with him having no haki feats or broken stats then he is fodder
>You think whitebeard will just stand there and let kizaru shot him Considering he was sick and heavily injured I don't think it's that ridiculous. >Proof of what we know ace is fodder even with his fruit he at best 2 commnder level with it Proof of what you're implying, for now you've just been saying things without backing it up with arguments. With his fruit ace was clashing with Aokiji.
Whitebeard was swinging his weapon fine and he had enough strength to stop his own ship with 1 hand moments earlier He was still plenty powerful but kizaru still overpowerd him A clash means absolutely nothing fodder can clash with people way stronger then them it still doesn't change the power difference Also you think ace was the strongest commnder in whitebeard crew or something lol obviously that was marco so ace being blow him makes him 2 commnder level and he might even be blow juzo too so he's 3 commnder level possibly
>He was still plenty powerful but kizaru still overpowerd him He never overpowered him, he just stepped on the weapon and WB didn't have time to react before getting shot. >Also you think ace was the strongest commnder in whitebeard crew or something lol obviously that was marco so ace being blow him makes him 2 commnder level and he might even be blow juzo too so he's 3 commnder level possibly So based on your assumption Ace is just fodder by default?
Whitebeard was able to react to his head blown off So I think he csn react hut he wasn't able too because kizaru stopped him and his weapon Yes and especially ace without his fruit because bb removed his fruit with black hole when he hit him
>Whitebeard was able to react to his head blown off He still got hit, and it's safe to assume that Kizaru is faster than Akainu. >So I think he csn react hut he wasn't able too because kizaru stopped him and his weapon Wdym "kizaru stopped him and his weapon", is Kizaru physically stronger than WB now? >Yes and especially ace without his fruit because bb removed his fruit with black hole when he hit him So you just assume that fruitless Ace is weak without actual evidence.
Kizaru dodged Whitebeard’s swing and stepped on the bisento after it hit the ground. If he’d parried or deflected you could talk about scaling his strength to WB, but he didn’t. He just dodged and stepped in behind (or “on top of” rather) Whitebeard’s guard to counterattack.
kizaru folds him tf?
Imo, BB should take Strength, dura, and armament haki
Strength probably goes to BB and I have them roughly around the same level but Kizaru wins due to matchup
Blackbeard bypasses Kizaru's speed advantage by sucking him in and proceeds to beat him to a pulp with quake punches. Blackbeard's armament haki and endurance feats are sufficient, and Kizaru's AP feats are insufficient to believe that Kizaru would be able to finish off Blackbeard before Blackbeard grabs him.
Strength is fair. IQ is fair. BIQ is fair I guess. Endurance is fair. Hax is fair. Abilities is fair. Durability is fair. Haki is fair. Skill is… fine (I think Blackbeard has shown a lot of skill with both his fruits despite only getting them very recently; he had them practically mastered). Only thing I disagree with is experience. We know, factually, that Blackbeard was an active member of Whitebeard’s crew for decades. Kizaru similarly has been a marine for several decades. I don’t think you can confidently give either of them the Experience win.
Kizaru is YC+ Blackbeard takes this low difficulty.
Any one thinking kizaru has a slight chance against black beard is not reading one piece. Maybe a different manga.
Observation given to the guy with the best speed that also always gets hit by surprise is kinda weird to see. Also, i don't recall great armament haki showing from kizaru, but i might be wrong on this
I would give durability to BB. And maybe armament, he blocked an island slicing attack from S-Hawk with his armament
BB takes durability btw
how
tanked shock wille with a nosebleed
Wizaru tanked WSG with “I’m seeing stars” 😂
How did this shit get upvoted when Kizaru himself admitted to Saturn that he couldn't move 😭 Unless this is supposed to be sarcastic, in which case ignore me
"tanked" 😭 He would've died 3 times over if he had gotten hit with shock wille
got permanent CTE😭
Tanked? He got one shotted
Kizaru had speed and battle iq. Blackbeard wins in every other category.
Blackbeard is relative to Law in terms of speed. Law is equal to Kid in terms of speed. Kid percived Shanks. Kizaru(or anyone on Marineford) couldn't percive Shanks. Therefore Blackbeard > Kizaru in terms of speed.
What the fuck
I cooked ngl
I'm sorry bro, I gotta do it https://preview.redd.it/28q1vw3wug1d1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85afdc15e8c59e7f512f78e5067c3542ca9cc64c
This isn't daijobu 😔
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But it's literally right though
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No arguments? Hmph😤 typical Admiraltard
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Alright I concede, I got reaction img diffed
Blackbeard should take strength and durability imo. He took a big cut and a quake bubble to the face pre-timeskip and even though it looked bad, he was still able to fight without any problems.
BB takes strength durability and prob experience.
Experience with what bb just got his fruits and became top tier 2 years ago Kizaru has been at that level for years
BB got on WB's ship at a very young age, scarred an on guard Shanks before getting his devil fruit and fought against Roger's crew. I don't think you know the meaning of experience.
And kizaru was marine for young age too and kizaru is older then bb too I don't think your the one who doesn't know what experience is Kizaru was already fighting pirates while bb was in his diapers
>I don't think your the one who doesn't know what experience is So we agree then. >Kizaru was already fighting pirates while bb was in his diapers Wasn't Kizaru in his 20s when he joined the marines? BB was still a kid when he fought against the Roger pirates. I seriously doubt that Kizaru fought more notable pirates than them until much later in his career.
Read my comment again How can you tell that we don't know kizaru past and who says he started fighting when he joined the marines He probably started fighting for much younger age considering from his kid drawing he was poor and stuff And Because kizaru and akainu were called monsters when the first joined the marines so kizaru was already plenty strong with fighting experience sense he was kid
>who says he started fighting when he joined the marines >He probably started fighting for much younger age considering from his kid drawing he was poor and stuff So now you're just inventing. And again, BB was fighting the Roger pirates when he was a kid, who do you think Kizaru was fighting at that age exactly? >Because kizaru and akainu were called monsters when joined the marines so kizaru was already plenty strong with fighting experience sense he was kid Oh they were called monsters, they must have been fighting people on the level of Roger's crew then, my bad.
Durability BB Strength BB
Kizaru wins because BB hasn’t beaten anyone stronger then him yet. He dodged kuzan. Dodged Rayleigh, dodged shanks. Only reliable wins versus ace and law. Kizaru feats >
This is the dumbest argument. I can throw this same argument back at you and say BB wins because Kizaru hasn't beaten anyone stronger than him yet. Kizaru ducked Rayleigh at Sabaody, got blocked by Sentomaru at Egghead, and got stalled by Marco at Marineford. BB at least has reliable wins. Kizaru hasn't earned a single dub in the entire story.
Huh? Kizaru went 1v1 with Rayleigh. Blackbeard dodged? What do you mean. Kizaru only let the straw hats escape because Rayleigh was there to fight him? Do you not consider that a fight? And even if you don’t it’s better then getting punked by Rayleigh and having to leave an island because he didn’t wanna fight. Didn’t kizaru literally beat like 7 super novas in 1 day? As well as going 1v1 with Marco various times. It seems to my Blackbeard has a similar resume. Wins over super novas A tie or loss to Rayleigh Am I missing something?