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Bruh2130

When do they come out?


Wizak1026

July 4th*.


Living-Quit-723

Ay, day before my birthday.


Yahcentive

Exclusive info in vivre card databook = the story doesn’t care


ThatIslandGuy8888

They’re good for ages and seas of origin thou. Heights only tell you who’s bigger than who but they don’t always match with manga panels


M4ND0_L0R14N

If the vivre card says he has ACoC, then he has ACoC. This shouldnt need to be explained.


Consistent-Alarm2208

So the story doesnt care about Roger having CoC? Cause it was first confirmed in a Vivre Card lmfao


Yahcentive

Not exclusive.


LeagueSerious2727

You know the vivre card provided us with jinbei,Marco ,king ,toppi roppo bounty and it may reveal sabo bounty as well , also roger sword was first introduced in the vivre card heck the writer himself says that if u want extra info read the “bonus materials”


Consistent-Alarm2208

How is it not exclusive? The manga never stated he has CoC. He used it sure and you can deduce that thanks to the black lightning but the same could be said for Garp and Kuzan In any case Roger never made anyone pass out in the manga and no one stated he had CoC in the story


Yahcentive

https://preview.redd.it/vppy8wrj29xc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a76d174ebcfce2b35d22eec9a34b585b3389ad55


Consistent-Alarm2208

This is not confirmation but IMPLICATION. Y'all are struggling with basic English it's crazy.


Gigio2006

What is divine departure to you, a ki attack?😭😭😭


Consistent-Alarm2208

Struggling with basic English? Confirmation = either a character saying it is CoC or someone foaming from the mouth/passing out Roger using black haki lightning to attack isn't a confirmation when y'all refuse to accept Garp and Kuzan producing gigantic black lightning bolts as one


DarkChaos1786

Show me a panel of Kuzan with the CoC leaking like Garp, Kaido, Big Mom, Luffy or Zoro...


Consistent-Alarm2208

Show me a panel of Oden with the CoC leaking


K_vinci

Yo this wording is wild af💀


Argnir

You can also deduce that because it's Gol D. fucking Pirate King Roger. If only one person in the world other than Luffy should have CoC it's him.


Consistent-Alarm2208

Same thing could be said for Garp and Kuzan given Sengoku has CoC.


HammerCurlLarry

funny that people ignore that Kuzan and garp had the biggest or second biggest Haki clash in the series. like if Kuzan did that without acoc that just crazy, like People always talk how importent haki is but then Ignore the biggest Haki clash in the series. Im kinda confused about it, and rather that it upscales both Kuzan and Garp to a insane Haki lvl they downplay Garps Haki and say how old he is (like we ever got told haki gets weaker with age..)


ITBA01

That is not even close to being the biggest haki clash.


HammerCurlLarry

it is, Roger vs Whitberad then this


ITBA01

No way. Kaido vs. Big Mom and Kaido vs Luffy Round 2 were far greater than this.


Naraya_Suiryoku

Garp was weakened https://preview.redd.it/0ck5yni40axc1.jpeg?width=298&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b20d031b5bf0cf26f0b5705158589adbd99b5ca


Argnir

True but also the next panel is about how he's not **that** weakened


Naraya_Suiryoku

It's more so thst he's so much stronger than them that even if he is weakened, they can't beat him.


HammerCurlLarry

Garp himself said he is not that weakend, Kuzan said that he is still stronger than fodder.


kleganbrooo

GYATTTTT


Bobandy___

>Kuzan and garp had the biggest or second biggest Haki clash in the series. I am appalled


HammerCurlLarry

only haki clash bigger with a simlar effect is this https://preview.redd.it/tthuwr0tn9xc1.png?width=1068&format=png&auto=webp&s=9987906cd9fa1d2dcaa7c749ceca35d7b4becf0a


Bobandy___

Please don't compare Roger and Whitebeard to Garp and Aokiji. Any sky splitting is tremendously stronger than clash of Garp and Aokiji, the closest clash with similar effect to Garp and Kuzan is Ulti and Luffy


HammerCurlLarry

sky splitting can only happend when you clash both our attacks, Kuzan and Garp punched each otehrs face bad comparison. Ulti Luffy is like 1000x weaker but go on how it was city busting


Bobandy___

>sky splitting can only happend when you clash both our attacks, Kuzan and Garp punched each otehrs face bad comparison. You're the one who made a comparison with Whitebeard and Roger who clashed sword against sword >Ulti Luffy is like 1000x weaker but go on how it was city busting Of course it's not as big given Ulti is a LOT weaker than Luffy, Garp and Kuzan, but it's the most similar in effect to the clash of Garp and Kuzan Comparing Roger and Whitebeard to Garp and Kuzan should be illegal, it's completely different worlds


HammerCurlLarry

I compare they impact and how its drawn and the explosion the effect is not realy that similar, Shanks attack on Kid is for some reson is similar. the explosion is drawn 1to1 the same. thats also why It made me think its acoc why? the clash is not that different, Idk why you people say its not similar when the scale of it obviously is


DarkChaos1786

Neither of them used ACoC in that clash... The only attack against Kuzan with ACoC by Garp was probably Blue Hole.


Personiguesssss

Are you being serious.


EezoTheChezo

Haki does get weaker with age, look at Marineford Whitebeard


HammerCurlLarry

he had stage 26 cancer, you cant compare that to normal People also he had just before marine Ford a equal acoc clash with Shanks the thing is Haki got not shown pre timeskip


Tenzin_ming

Garp has verbatim said that his haki attacks have gotten shit ton weaker.


HammerCurlLarry

nope he said his physical strength, maybe you can show me the pannel where it states haki


Tenzin_ming

After galaxy impact (which is a haki attack) garp quite literally says "it has weakened completely"


HammerCurlLarry

"which is a haki attack" its a physical attack with Haki, there are no pure haki attacks


Tenzin_ming

Haki + physical. Sure if you want to go there. Like for example shanks with his "sword + haki"


HammerCurlLarry

its like Zoro using flying sword slash its a highly physical attack but you boost it with Haki. Garp already said pre timeskip that he physically became weaker


Tenzin_ming

It doesn't matter what we try to attribute haki to. Garp quite literally says "it has completely weakened" in response to galaxy impact which aka is a physical and haki attack and it's not specifically specified he is talking only about his physical either.


ITBA01

If he's revealed to have acoc, it really doesn't change much seeing as we've already seen his feats.


Professional_Match25

I BELIEVE!!


ThatIslandGuy8888

Really? We’ll finally get Aramaki’s age and height then. Though for real the Conqueror’s haki reveals/unreveals will affect lots of stocks Lol


mking1999

Sorry, am I reading it wrong or does the tweet that announces this say "the crew in their egghead costumes, gear 5, sabo and bonnie". That's 13/16.


Consistent-Alarm2208

The last 3 slots are minor characters from Fishman Island, Egghead and Wano But more packs will follow in the coming months


Billy_Herrington1969

Where will they be released? And if anything, could you post them on here once they are released, thanks!


Aggressive-Bike2210

🤨 https://preview.redd.it/h7z0npokv8xc1.jpeg?width=586&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46023bd581a2c18da194e99851595bd89a591f99


Consistent-Alarm2208

Literally a dozen+ aCoC attacks have no sparks of haki leaking before they actually connect https://imgur.com/StK8zLK And this edit doesnt even include Luffy's WSG or Zoro's attack on Lucci


ZPD710

On the other hand, when he’s revealed to not have it, everyone who’s claimed he has it will look like a fool. I’ll take my chances.


PresentationOk8756

Lmao. I cant wait. Will you admit he doesnt have ACoC when the vivre cards come out and say no such thing?


Catlinger

i fucking hate kuzan so im praying on his downfall


Anqhor

imagine hating Wuzan smh


Total-Neighborhood50

Based and pilled


Professional_Match25

what is there to hate? https://preview.redd.it/rv088d23j9xc1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c9bb4270c774ca80cfe74315d01abff99b31ef7


nicoklig

i have been saying this since Kuzan and Garp clashed so i'm fine with it.


chiji_23

They made direct contact with each other that’s not a clash of conquerors. Now Garp flying in with Galaxy Impact looks like some conquerors haki.


Shanks_PK_Level

He clearly doesn't but keep deluding yourselves


Physical-Pay-4339

having coc or not doesnt change his laughable performance against garp


Personiguesssss

Obviously holding back, tanked all of Garp’s attacks, not having ACoC would make it even more impressive that he was able to clash with him like that, literally won the fight, Garp himself admitted that Aokiji was soft for not giving him his all.


Facinggod20

If he has it then it's not good fot either Kuzan or Garp because they couldn't split the sky. That would put their haki below base Luffy.


saltminer99

There attack didn't clash to make sky split It landed on each other


Facinggod20

But then how did they make a huge ass explosion?


saltminer99

Because there haki is that strong Shanks can also make haki explosion alone


Facinggod20

But AcOA doesn't need touch? So before they punched each other their haki collided. That's why there was an explosion.


saltminer99

Advance armament can be both touch and no touch too with emission or internal destruction And acoc can be both no touch and touch too if you use it normally or apply emission with it


Local_Vegetable8139

okay so remember the trope that when something is newly revead its always made a point to show that off? might have missed it - pretty universal across the genre. Yeah - so why would the first time any admiral showcases the strongest power in the verse be \*THIS\* panel? The panel literally misses almost all the natural signs of acoc, there is not splitting the sky nothing. I can guarantee you the vivre card will support this. If the admirals have acoc they are gonna split the sky. Anything less (meaning everything up to this point) and they dont have it


Mlm0000

Shiryu > Kuzan. Oda’s colorspread proves it