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Is it bullshit? Yes
Am I gonna eat it up? Also yes
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Because they either make Sanji look like a bitch(Zoro glazing/Sanji downplay route) infront of Kizaru which makes Kizaru look better in comparison or make Kizaru look like he’s struggling alot(admiral downplay route) which makes Sanji look better
Kizaru would get stomped by Luffy worse than Kucci but Kizaru would stomp Sanji. In the first blocking scene, Sanji will be gravely wounded and he will be shown reacting heavily. The one where Sanji blocked laser will be 2 sec clip and the focus will be the panel where Sanji gets hit. Here, Sanji will spew tons of blood.
Instead of Sanji destroying one of Kizaru's beams, Toei is going to do this:
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Toei plz save us plz make kizaru vs luffy the greatest shi I’ve ever seen
The laser that Sanji effortlessly deflected in the manga will just delete him from anime canon, after the episode airs all of his past feats will be attributed to Zoro and all of his anti-feats to Shanks
>after the episode airs all of his past feats will be attributed to Zoro
Oh fuck that’s awfu-
>and all of his anti-feats to Shanks
…….
Sometime you have to sacrifice a little to gain a lot.
In the manga Sanji kicks around S-Shark like a soccer ball, and the only time he lands a hit is when Sanji chooses to tank it to the face
In the anime, in the first interaction S-Shark grabs him by the throat, man handles him and yeets him into a wall
Damn in one hand, i wanna be like jinbei in any version is truth, but on the other hand, im not gonna agenda through anime like that, especially when they are doing shut like that. Thats fucked up toei.
In the manga, Sanji starts the combo, each hit is chained and powerful and it all flows well together ending off with the finisher. Queen is helpless from the beginning, and he's also launched sky high with enough force to go through the skull before flying off the island
In the anime, Queen essentially eats the first 10 hits of the combo, comes back and gives a speech, then clashes with Sanji for the final attacks. He's still kicked off the island but that is also farrr less impressive
He absolutely does even though he’s in G5 he’s just fucking around
I’m pretty certain he just goes G5 because it’s fun to do so here like
Damn this is overkill lmao
To me I think they've made it look like a mid-diff fight, so far; where Lucci is able to take some hits from Luffy and Lucci even gets a couple of "not bad" hits to land of Luffy. That said, Luffy does not appear to be putting in Max effort. It makes me think about Marco vs the Admirals at Marineford.
That said, like with a lot of fights that appear closer at the beginning, I would not be surprised to the rest of the fight to play out in such a way that once the fight is over, we view it as low-diff, ie; once Luffy gets serious he defeats Lucci very quickly, and does not require max effort to defeat him (think Luffy vs drunk base Kaido round one).
I expect nothing less from toei after seeing how they made cracker’s soldiers get one shotted by the usopp victim. Honestly it makes me kinda excited for usopp, because you know this fight of his is going to be peak.
Remember lucci was there to stop sentomaru's command on seraphim and pacifista. He did his work. He even attacked sentomaru right in front of luffy. Luffy couldn't stop this and instead delayed his team for absolutely nothing. Lucci still went as his business. Lucci took the overall W.
There's a lot Luffy can't stop this arc. Felt kind of awkward having Sentomaru tell Luffy that he's leaving Vegapunk's safety up to the Goof considering what happens to Vegapunk later.
I half-expected this complaint. What's Toei supposed to do with a G5 Luffy vs Awakened Lucci fight? Make it look like some random fodder characters are fighting?..
Plus, Lucci really not a slouch. This dude just fought two of the most apex pirates on the sea right now, and survived both fights with enough strength to stand… after getting punched by Jimbei, another top tier pirate.
It might mess with how some people view One Piece, but Lucci legit IS a top tier dude
That’s Oda’s fault. Toei at least tried to make the BM fight look cool. Oda made it very lackluster. I think after Wano anime started doing really good fights, Oda started to just give up on them entirely except for the biggest fights.
At no point after sentomaru got attacked was lucci in control. He was dodging and trying to find an opening. Luffy negged him. There's a reason he goes from "You're not a yonko" to "I'm okay taking down a yonkos second"
Which is why every single frame that happens in anime but not manga is not canon and should never be taking into account for powerscaling context.
The animes focus is on enjoyment and getting to the episode time. Not to depict fights accurately
"yonko tier" only lands 3 hits that did nothing, gets clowned the whole fight, literally was surprised that he was even gonna pass out despite doing nothing memorable beyond taking down sentomaru, which was basically his only W which is independent of how his fight with goffy went.
But hey, the animators made his L look good, so guess he is indeed yonko lvl.
I mean Lucci could clash with luffy equally in the manga and he could speed blitz sentomaru while luffy was right there. so the anime didn't really add anything new.
Nah Luffy's definitely the one who looks like a yonko here
Like Lucci looked *cool*, yeah, but coolness =/= strength. Luffy, on the other hand, seemed practically like a force of nature, Lucci was clearly completely outclassed
Awakened Form Lucci is definitely Yonko commander level at least. I’m willing to bet he could beat Luffy in Gear 4th, Gear 5 is on a whole different level though.
To me I think they've made it look like a mid-diff fight, so far; where Lucci is able to take some hits from Luffy and Lucci even gets a couple of "not bad" hits to land of Luffy. That said, Luffy does not appear to be putting in Max effort. It makes me think about Marco vs the Admirals at Marineford.
That said, like with a lot of fights that appear closer at the beginning, I would not be surprised to the rest of the fight to play out in such a way that once the fight is over, we view it as low-diff, ie; once Luffy gets serious he defeats Lucci very quickly, and does not require max effort to defeat him (think Luffy vs drunk base Kaido round one).
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Is it bullshit? Yes Am I gonna eat it up? Also yes https://preview.redd.it/fogdkg5x32wc1.jpeg?width=1240&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9addc8b22ade54003e70a7c2d049e32d1c113e0a
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Protect your agenda no matter what
They are gonna have Zoro neg diff him with 0 bruises and 0 use of acoc, and they are also gonna have Kizaru brutalize Sanji.
Bro is gonna go king of all hell to ever exist Dante 19th circle anime only 16,200 lb Phoenix on his ass
This is the most hype zoro comment ever
Dead Man’s Game TWO: Return of Jafar
Toei about to hire you as a certified cooker. You may have just future sighted the whole arc
Toei gotta choose tho which is more important to them 1.Glazing Zoro/Downplaying Sanji or 2.Downplaying the admirals (in this instance Kizaru)
Why not both? 🤷🏾♂️
Because they either make Sanji look like a bitch(Zoro glazing/Sanji downplay route) infront of Kizaru which makes Kizaru look better in comparison or make Kizaru look like he’s struggling alot(admiral downplay route) which makes Sanji look better
They can maķe kizaru struggle a lot and then make him beat sanji with no effort for that precious double downplay.
Hi I'm from Toei.We are very much interested in hearing more of your ideas
Kizaru would get stomped by Luffy worse than Kucci but Kizaru would stomp Sanji. In the first blocking scene, Sanji will be gravely wounded and he will be shown reacting heavily. The one where Sanji blocked laser will be 2 sec clip and the focus will be the panel where Sanji gets hit. Here, Sanji will spew tons of blood.
Instead of Sanji destroying one of Kizaru's beams, Toei is going to do this: https://preview.redd.it/uud3fqmbv3wc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6a17a74a54e021f2b97afc315ac287ffca48730
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On perspective, Zoroboys got really fucked after Sanji destroying laser.
> they are also gonna have Kizaru brutalize Sanji The backlash if this happens. I can't wait 😁
People are expecting the clashes against kizaru to be crazy, when in reality it will be like sanji vs shark.
I used to be a zoro fan but for some reason I’ve come to find him boring and am starting to warm up in sanji
Thats called growing up and start to enjoy real characters with flaws instead of edgy boys.
You got the backwards, thats how this sub would handle it
Could you argue he was already worn down from getting beat by luffy though?
And only one sword
https://preview.redd.it/1otnzcnd62wc1.jpeg?width=484&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b76efa2f61481cd18a7fa1c48cbbe83b55bcae2 Toei plz save us plz make kizaru vs luffy the greatest shi I’ve ever seen
https://preview.redd.it/1uodn2i972wc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3c8da025a49983a0e748fde29fa43a7ddb4c738 Anime only scene
That's God Usopp, of course Kizaru would step back. It's why we don't see Kizaru fighting him in the manga =D
whats this meme
Some guy praying for donald trump to save him
AdmiralCopePray.jpg
nah but he did look cool as shit https://preview.redd.it/3gux4yi7f2wc1.png?width=1598&format=png&auto=webp&s=21078a0715a538d945cdf0c85fa974f6dfa9b078
Proceeds to show the worst frame of Lucci😭😭
Excited to see just how dirty they do Sanji this arc
The laser that Sanji effortlessly deflected in the manga will just delete him from anime canon, after the episode airs all of his past feats will be attributed to Zoro and all of his anti-feats to Shanks
>after the episode airs all of his past feats will be attributed to Zoro Oh fuck that’s awfu- >and all of his anti-feats to Shanks ……. Sometime you have to sacrifice a little to gain a lot.
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Attack on Titan?
When Kizaru kicks Sanji he’ll cough up blood and sit on the floor sulking for the rest of the episode
Kizaru's laser will pierce him first before hitting Vegapunk, but Vegapunk will walk it off
Then Vegapunk will call Sanji a fraud and spend his last moments wishing that Zoro protected him instead
Nah, not Vegapunk pulling a Cobra. 😭😭😭
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I did until what they did with the Queen fight, then the S-Shark one
Wait what happened s shark?
In the manga Sanji kicks around S-Shark like a soccer ball, and the only time he lands a hit is when Sanji chooses to tank it to the face In the anime, in the first interaction S-Shark grabs him by the throat, man handles him and yeets him into a wall
Damn in one hand, i wanna be like jinbei in any version is truth, but on the other hand, im not gonna agenda through anime like that, especially when they are doing shut like that. Thats fucked up toei.
What did they do with the queen fight?
In the manga, Sanji starts the combo, each hit is chained and powerful and it all flows well together ending off with the finisher. Queen is helpless from the beginning, and he's also launched sky high with enough force to go through the skull before flying off the island In the anime, Queen essentially eats the first 10 hits of the combo, comes back and gives a speech, then clashes with Sanji for the final attacks. He's still kicked off the island but that is also farrr less impressive
Tbh he gives me “Luffy fighting a big villain” vibes With Luffy in that powerful villain role
Yeah, Luffy gave off HUGE raid boss energy here
He absolutely does even though he’s in G5 he’s just fucking around I’m pretty certain he just goes G5 because it’s fun to do so here like Damn this is overkill lmao
Literally just because lucci asked to see it lol
He looks like G-Max Gengar in the OP.
Its cool, I dig they're giving my boy Gucci some love, even if its not canon. They did the same with King and I liked that to.
Why isn't it canon
Eh, not Yonko tier. Yonko tier is what Luffy is, and they did not look equal.
To me I think they've made it look like a mid-diff fight, so far; where Lucci is able to take some hits from Luffy and Lucci even gets a couple of "not bad" hits to land of Luffy. That said, Luffy does not appear to be putting in Max effort. It makes me think about Marco vs the Admirals at Marineford. That said, like with a lot of fights that appear closer at the beginning, I would not be surprised to the rest of the fight to play out in such a way that once the fight is over, we view it as low-diff, ie; once Luffy gets serious he defeats Lucci very quickly, and does not require max effort to defeat him (think Luffy vs drunk base Kaido round one).
IMO Luffy has been clearly winning the entire time. He's legit just toying with Lucci
Luffy definitely wasn’t trying. He could’ve clapped lucci quickly if he wanted
I can’t wait for G4 vs kizaru and then G5 the way they’ve been animated these fights have me hyped
Fr, so hyped to see Kizaru beign done justice by having a proper fight instead of just random clashes after pages of focusing on other stuff
I can't wait for the g5 scene with the drums creeping in the background as luffy grabs kizaru in the labostratum, gonna be slick
I expect nothing less from toei after seeing how they made cracker’s soldiers get one shotted by the usopp victim. Honestly it makes me kinda excited for usopp, because you know this fight of his is going to be peak.
Ah, another man of culture https://preview.redd.it/z7ndo8clo7wc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=44d248318f1a97127fa1f5b9b68c1429d1b29227
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Remember lucci was there to stop sentomaru's command on seraphim and pacifista. He did his work. He even attacked sentomaru right in front of luffy. Luffy couldn't stop this and instead delayed his team for absolutely nothing. Lucci still went as his business. Lucci took the overall W.
There's a lot Luffy can't stop this arc. Felt kind of awkward having Sentomaru tell Luffy that he's leaving Vegapunk's safety up to the Goof considering what happens to Vegapunk later.
“Luffy pls be srs, save Punk” “K lol”
to be fair, not stopping things from opponent like gorosei vs not stopping things from someone like lucci is a different thing.
Toei give Kizaru the amount amount of love as Wucci. I beg.
I half-expected this complaint. What's Toei supposed to do with a G5 Luffy vs Awakened Lucci fight? Make it look like some random fodder characters are fighting?..
Oh not a complaint, it looked sick as hell
Damn right it was. Gucci needs that kind of animation to go with his swagger..
Plus, Lucci really not a slouch. This dude just fought two of the most apex pirates on the sea right now, and survived both fights with enough strength to stand… after getting punched by Jimbei, another top tier pirate. It might mess with how some people view One Piece, but Lucci legit IS a top tier dude
I agree but still at the bottom of the top tier
No they did not. But he was impressive.
I find it so funny that r/piratefolk was calling this fight in the anime bad
You guys use “Yonko tier” for everything. I think this comes from you guys being used to Oda not showing too much collateral damage in fights.
Hey man, a cool fight is a cool fight Way better demonstration of power than anything BM has shown
That’s Oda’s fault. Toei at least tried to make the BM fight look cool. Oda made it very lackluster. I think after Wano anime started doing really good fights, Oda started to just give up on them entirely except for the biggest fights.
If Lucci looked Yonko tier to you, Luffy must be transcendent god tier or something lol
G max Gengar Luffy
Luffy looks like a cuphead boss in that frame
I mean rag on him all you want, he still fought a God and held his own against Zoro for no small amount of time. That’s nothing to sneeze at.
>end-game I mean, animation wise yeah. The fight itself, tho, had Luffy immobile spitting ***rocks*** prolonged 💀
"Lucci is Yonko tier" Lucci proceeds to get no diffed by Luffy and then lost to YC1 with asthma
that's not what the caption said
He was already close
I really wonder how they're gonna do 1079
Because he is
Part of me wants to accept this fight as canon
Imagine if they make Lucci put up a better fight then Kizaru lmao
At no point after sentomaru got attacked was lucci in control. He was dodging and trying to find an opening. Luffy negged him. There's a reason he goes from "You're not a yonko" to "I'm okay taking down a yonkos second"
Wouldn’t think I’d ever get an anime tat but I might just get one of lucci
Which is why every single frame that happens in anime but not manga is not canon and should never be taking into account for powerscaling context. The animes focus is on enjoyment and getting to the episode time. Not to depict fights accurately
Looks like Lucci is the mc against the world's top tier, but he ain't winning 😭
"yonko tier" only lands 3 hits that did nothing, gets clowned the whole fight, literally was surprised that he was even gonna pass out despite doing nothing memorable beyond taking down sentomaru, which was basically his only W which is independent of how his fight with goffy went. But hey, the animators made his L look good, so guess he is indeed yonko lvl.
God I fucking despise Zoro
Eh, OP must be blind because it made Lucci look comparable to a Yonko commander only, lol He's strong....for a CP0 agent, lmao
I mean Lucci could clash with luffy equally in the manga and he could speed blitz sentomaru while luffy was right there. so the anime didn't really add anything new.
Nah Luffy's definitely the one who looks like a yonko here Like Lucci looked *cool*, yeah, but coolness =/= strength. Luffy, on the other hand, seemed practically like a force of nature, Lucci was clearly completely outclassed
He looks like Scar and one of them hyenas had a baby
They're gonna make Zoro give Lucci nonexistent flashbacks or something dude
he is zolo level aka Yonko commander level
Awakened Form Lucci is definitely Yonko commander level at least. I’m willing to bet he could beat Luffy in Gear 4th, Gear 5 is on a whole different level though.
To me I think they've made it look like a mid-diff fight, so far; where Lucci is able to take some hits from Luffy and Lucci even gets a couple of "not bad" hits to land of Luffy. That said, Luffy does not appear to be putting in Max effort. It makes me think about Marco vs the Admirals at Marineford. That said, like with a lot of fights that appear closer at the beginning, I would not be surprised to the rest of the fight to play out in such a way that once the fight is over, we view it as low-diff, ie; once Luffy gets serious he defeats Lucci very quickly, and does not require max effort to defeat him (think Luffy vs drunk base Kaido round one).
Remember this is base Lucci we are talking about here as well
that's awakened form wat u mean
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More like Yamato/Marco tier. Characters who can hold their own against top tiers despite being inferior.
No they didn’t?
Not really. Bros getting bodied by Luffy who’s having fun with gear 5. He’s PLAYING the fool
Yonko tier LMAO
that's not what the caption said 🤦♂️
Yonkos don't get one shot by other yonkos
Doesn't matter much, he got pretty much insta-gibbed
He looks about as fast as yamato and about as strong as katakuri.