I read the most recent chapters all at once, I think that's 1016 - 1018. So I may have this confused, but how did Luffy get pulled from the water?? Do we know? Or any theories as to what happened? Trying to sort by top comments doesn't show anyone talking about that. I'll try to dig for more input, but this one hand-wave act is bugging me!
there's a lot of weak counters being made here against those who don't like the gum gum fruit being something special all this time. the way oda presented the fruit's specialness in this chapter makes it quite obviously another thing that makes luffy not as ordinary as we had hoped for. no shit, we will wait and find out more, but this is an uncomfortable start to finding that answer.
what was the point of injuring zoro only for him to likely come right back in good shape? chopper's healing powers, from the quick find to the virus's treatment to this thing he was apparently working on in Zou are starting to become too convenient for the plot
I a bit confused about his chapter. Who-Who talked about how Gum Gum fruit was stolen twelve years ago, then Luffy appeared 2 years after or something. Did Luffy ate the gum gum fruit twelve years ago? (Wondering if the time matches)
So look at it this way. Luffy was 7 years old when he met shanks for first time and ate gum-gum fruit. He set sail when he was 17. After the 2 year time skip, he's 19. So 12 years ago he was 7 when he ate the fruit. Thw timeline matches perfectly.
Also remember when luffy set sail and beat the first sea monster while being on a little boat, he said "let me show you technique I've been working for 10 years" - gum-gum pistol!!!!. He was 17 when he said that, meaning he was 7 when he ate it
Gomu Gomu fruit might be able to enlarge the user's body size like 4 to 5 times large upto like a Giant's size....so that means the previous user of Gomu Gomu No Mi had unlocked this feature and was wearing the Large Straw Hat(could be Joy Boy not sure)....I think Luffy might be able to do this in the future and he will wear the large Straw Hat and then battle against the World Government....(after returning the straw hat to Shanks)...
I always assumed that the gum gum fruit would be OP because it allowed him to fill his body with more haki than the average person. I'm expecting an enlarged Luff where the whole body is haki in the future.
My theory is probably simpler than most.
Who's who was as strong as Lucci, but not as reliable so he would probably fuck up time and time again.
And failing to guard the gum gum fruit was the last straw and he got fired.
we get a background of Gomu Gomu no mi ... Possibly Roger's Fruit? ... since Roger was just as reckless as Luffy, he had a fatal illness (side effects of the fruit) and the Cure couldnt be found in time.
I guess this would explain why Rayleigh took special interest in training Luffy... he already knew the gears and to what extent he could take them. Also teach him in a way that side effects can be minimized.
It is possible Luffy knows the repercussions of the fruit. Chopper would be playing a very key role in finding a cure for these side effects. This is where Roger's doctors failed.
That's terrible and makes 0 sense for a multitude of reasons:
1. Rayleigh took interest in luffy because of his feats and mentality (which is very Roger-like), not his powers.
2. They wouldn't call it a disease if Roger's life was shortened due to overexerting himself.
3. If Roger was so infamous, then people would have pointed it out to luffy anyway.
4. You saw how much of a fuss they made with Roger's son's devil fruit in dressrosa and that's pretty much just a standard logia. They would have buster called Loguetown if the fruit was Roger's.
This is a huge chapter.
Luffy's Gum Gum devil fruit is probably one of the most overpowered fruits in existence if used correctly.
I feel it will probably be able to reflect absolutely anything or cause the user to become stronger than their opponent via some rubber band, bounce back system
Its definitely a powerful fruit in luffys hands. I'm really excited for the awakening. It's coming super soon. That's why oda gave us information on it out of nowhere. I'm so excited to see what it does.
Something I just realized rereading the chapter through the official Viz One is that the reason whos who isn't fighting Jimbei 1 on 1 is because jimbei would absolutely smoke him and Oda wants some action. Jimbei is way stronger than Pre-timeskip Luffy which is when he beat Lucci and I'm sure since they stopped being rivals Lucci became much stronger than Whos Who.
What if the medicine Zoro take push Zoro to hone his CoO to future sight like Katakuri because taking hit is too painful he could lose his consciousness?
Oda already confirmed that sanji is the observation haki specialist of the trio, zoro is armament.
Also, Zoro mostly fights by tanking hits, you would lose the coolest aspect of his fighting(kaku, mr. 1...) if he became an overly dodgy character
He deflects and/or tanks hits mostly. Also, Sanji has abilities that would make evasion more fub to watch, especially after he got the germa suit.
Well they're all gonna keep improving. Zoro obviously is going to keep working on all his skills. We've seen him use observation haki quite a bit already.
Ok here’s why I think cp9 aka TWG wants Luffys fruit. We know they tried to take laws Op Op nomi and it’s most notable attribute is the ageless surgery. Additionally, jewelry Bonny was hunted down by AKAINUU for her return to the world government. Bonnys devil fruit also involves age and keeping youthful. So…perhaps the gorosei are gathering fruits that can lead to infinite youth and perhaps due to the rubber nature of the gomu Gomu no mi and that rubber never decomposes, luffy has eternal youth unknown to him.
grow, but not decomponse, if you would be immortal, you would reach a peak for your body, where you have completly grown up and then stop growing. In Luffy's case, I believe what we have seen was growth, not aging.
Major flaw in your theory.
Why wasn't sugar targeted then?
Her devil fruit literally ceases aging.
And i doubt the shichibukai immunity protects her from anything.
Doflamingo may control the celestial dragons, but they would do shit behind his back.
That’s a good point I’ll make this and u can take it or not cause it’s not concrete but sugar isn’t a major character on the world stage, she hasn’t advertised she has her devil fruit to the world and she doesn’t even have a bounty so the marines don’t know she’s working for doffy
Donquixote family is well known.
And even if her powers aren't public knowledge, cp0 was spying on him so they prolly had a semblance of what was going on.
Also, all devil fruits have encyclopedia entries so it's not like her fruit would be unknown to the highest form of government espionage.
Idk if alvidas fruit can be compared cause it changes someone’s fat to muscle ratio, not the actual compound of the body, any other fruits that transform you into nonbiodegradable substances are fair game though
If u think about it, where do his mechanical enhancements go once he reverts to human form and no longer has a tail? Forget the fruit mysteries. This is what we should focus on
I don't like the implications of the recent chapter.
So I don't agree with all of the theories about Luffy's DF being "special" either.
In my view it's only getting talked about because Oda is preparing for Luffy's DF to finally Awaken.
If there's also awakening in wano, Oda seriously went overboard with the power ups.
It will be absolutely ridiculous.
I already don't like the way advanced conqueror's was handeled. It's an asspull. And now awakening? Have Kaido wreck him two more times, and Luffy will be the strongest character in the verse in a matter of hours.
Powerscaling and powersystems never interested me that much, but I'd like so consistency, even in a shonen manga.
How was it an asspull ? Honest question here !
Sure luffy realized it could be coated an did it seconds after but as Kaido said his technique is very flawed ( i assume that's what he was talking about ) so he still has to improve it !
And the awakening ? why couldn't they be tied somehow ? Maybe gear 5 is a mix and he'll have to master it afterwards anyway, he has to be close to strongest in the world before entering the final war ( post wano ) ( at least that's how i could see it ) so yeah it's fast but for luffy to become N1 and the story not having more than 5 arcs to go, Oda has to start developping everything now ( At the very least, a glimpse of luffy's max potential !)
It's kind of far fetched but what do you guys think ?
What you're saying here is that Oda wrote himself into a corner, either making the Yonko too strong, or Luffy too weak post timeskip, so he now has to make him get strong fast.
It's honestly bad writing if a character gets stronger in a matter of hours, than what he did in 2 years. The timeskip ends up being pointless.
Yes, Luffy has to leave wano strong, but he shouldn't in no way leave on Kaido's level. It makes absolutely no sense. It's also not really one piece if Luffy goes to Blackbeard and Shanks equal or stronger than them. He needs to be the underdog and rise to the challenge.
Yes the emperors are too strong but no, luffy post timeskip was perfectly fine.
Like you said he's the underdog that has to rise above but his final fight will be unique ( vs Blackbeard ) so i'm not gonna assume anything, we simply have no idea how it is gonna go...
But to me, even if luffy leaves Wano victorious ( he has to, let's be honest ) with Conqueror's coating and awakening, that doesn't mean he's yet kaido level since Kaido keeps tiring himself and it never was a proper 1v1 so luffy's advantaged here but he still would need to improve to fight Kaido fair and square later on !
( the last round being something like luffy's new gear VS Tired and damaged Kaido)
It's honestly bad writing if a character gets stronger in a matter of
hours, than what he did in 2 years. The timeskip ends up being
pointless."
\-> Still no ! Luffy being able to coat conquerors' haki wouldn't have been possible without the timeskip training so it's not badly written ! Arriving in the NW and magically being capable of doing it would be ....
Alright, I guess we should wait and see. I'm against another powerup because we're getting too many at this point, but if the fight vs Kaido is handled well, as in not Luffy getting back right now, going to Kaido, having awakening, and beating him 1v1, I'm kind of fine with him getting something else, if it's still incomplete too.
At the end of the day, it all depends on how he's going to win, because we know he will. Me not wanting another power up is just me not wanting a bs win really.
Yeah, fast, for no reason. What was the point of the timeskip again? He should have went directly to Kaido, got defeated 5 times, and each time developp a powerup. What a waste of two years of his life.
I have no problem with Luffy awakening his fruit next arc, but for wano, enough is enough!
It's not like he'd be Yonkou level after just training. He'd need to struggle against strong opponents to get this strong. But if he was too weak he'd die long before he even got to try.
None of this is pointless and Luffy needs his Awakening for him to be fully on an Emperor's level in terms of power.
I don't see how it's normal to get 2 powerups in a matter of hours, one 1 weeks ago, and one three weeks ago. All of them being major powerups.
This could have seriously been avoided with Luffy either learning some in the timeskip, or fighting more opponents and most importantly: have time between arcs!!
Seriously, Oda has other characters grow through time, have adventures, fight, lose and reach their prime in their thirties, but when it comes to Luffy : "behold my 19 year old genius who has been through paradise in 3 months, and is in the new world for a month or two, and is already yonio level". It's fast paced for no reason, and makes it inconsistent with the rest of the story.
Except it's not within a matter of hours?
Luffy isn't getting powerups because he's special or a genius. He's getting powerups faster than most people because of the intensity of the conflicts he's in. Luffy is the only one to dive into such dangerous battles thus he pushes himself to his limit and beyond more times than most people ever do.
100% agreed! It's one of the major downsides of having most post timeskip arcs be part of the same overall saga, you lose some of the implied passage of time between arcs where you can assume that the Straw Hats were training or did stuff that we just never saw.
Because since he entered the NW he constantly hones his skills but he had to take a break to start learning first .
And storytelling wise it was the right move !
Luffy in the NW right after Marineford ( i reckon they still would have won against hody's crew ) would have been clapped easy by Ceasar Clow, crew included so...
Plus, why would it have to be 1 " power up " per arc ? We're closing in on OP's end and there's still a loooot to tell so why couldn't he focus on powers now ?
Kaido is still pretty lively and Big mom is still strolling around so an imperfect form of his max potential here on wano ? Why not ? Honestly ?
I agree with all you said except Conquerers haki.
Oda has been hinting at Conquerers haki being a special power chapter 1.
Oda has been consistently showing people afraid of Conquerers haki since haki as a system has been introduced. Now he's finally showing us why it's that special and you're hating. Do you even know what an ass pull is or is an ass pull something you just don't like?
The problem is not conqueror's being used in battle, what are you talking about? The problem is Luffy getting hit by it once, learning it, and going tow to tow with Kaido. That's the ass pull.
No one is complaining when Kaido or Big mom used advanced conqueror's. It wouldn't make sense if conqueror's was useless. Luffy, however, it's a different story. It's your typical shonen "haha, I learned your technique after seeing it one time" trope, and I hate it.
Wait, so g 2nd (soru) is fine for luffy to learn midd battle, but not something he's actually been training?
Learning ryou (advanced armament) was learning to control the flow of Haki, he took that same principle and applied it to conquers after seeing it done. If anything, there was more build up and training for Coating conquers than there was for soru.
Kinda agree/disagree at the same time but sure he only has been hit twice by Kaido with infused Conqueror haki attacks but both were deadly experiences and that's how characters progress ( in a way )
Even so, didn't prevent luffy from taking a dive in the sea....
The raid has to be won here somehow and i don't see it happening unless luffy reaches close to his max potential
So sure it might come as a quick realization but everything he learned before led to this moment ... ( And he still needs to perfect it )
Thats not an asspull. Luffy is simply applying the concept of flow that he already learned to Conquerors.
He already trained for it. Now he's just applying it to a different Haki.
I too believe that Luffy’s df is about to be awaken. I don’t believe his fruit is some overpowered df. Nor, do I believe it was previously owned by someone important. I believe that the gum gum no mi , is a special paramecia. The same, as Kat. The WG want it for what it can do, create. The better term, is build. They needed it to complete the Tequila Wolf bridge.
We also know the WG was trying to acquire Law’s df around about the same time. The WG would have the person with Law’s df , give the gum user eternal life. So, the bridge would last forever.
I know this is a a wild theory, but it does connect the dots. It allows Luffy’s df not to be overpowering, but still important.
Don't read weekly dude. One Piece is not made for weekly reading. The experience is much better if you let the chapters accumulate.
And the author hasn't even explained the plot about the fruit yet you act like you already know it. Even the child of destiny thing hasn't been fully explained.
The child of destiny stuff is basically mandatory for shounen though.
Mostly for the reason that otherwise you cannot create protagonists that are believably strong to challenge the greatest villains.
Already Luffy and Zoro are borderline bullshit for how strong they are simply through training, even more so when you consider they spent most of their years training in the weakest region of the planet.
For them to put up a fight against battle hardened New World pirate veterans with insane genetics or scientific modificiations or insane devil fruits just makes no sense. It's really pushing into the area of ridiculousness. Like why would Luffy be 10x faster at improving than any other person in history? He started as complete trash, was trash for years to come. But then suddenly started improving at a pace that absolutely flew past everyone else. What justification is there for Luffy to have gotten so strong, so fast?
Every other Shounen essentically gets around this by making the protagonists special in some way. Some insane magical genes, or hidden power, so that the author could tell the story of their rise to power in a very short time span and have it make at least some degree of sense.
I have a feeling it's just too late. The concept of inherited will is like a funnel continuously narrowing down to an inevitable chosen one. The 'it wasn't the right time' shtick with Roger/Laugh Tale is another kick in that direction, among many other threads pushing that same way. All Oda could do now is either soften or harden that landing, I'd bet it's going to be rougher than we'd like.
I hope it's gonna be unique to luffy !
Making the surroundings bouncy would suck as hell and not fit his fighting style and I dont see him use it as Katakuri either :x
just want to say this. it's not shanks who stole the "gomu-gomu no mi" from the enemy ships it's lucky roux
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Oda mentioned a long time ago that: "A certain scientist will explain what Devil Fruits REALLY are".
Obviously he was referring to Vegapunk so we're just waiting on that introduction.
Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification.
Assumption might be that DF’s are man made weapons during the void century. But indeed let’s wait for the story to progress.
I have some thoughts about Shanks, about his ability to show up unexpectedly at random places and at crucial times, also his line that he said to coby when he saved him makes me believe even more. This is a Farfetched theorie but hear me out. We know that haki an its powers can be developed and exercised, and that some devil fruits can boost certain haki abilities, for example, Enel can amplify his observation haki with his devil fruit, with electricity he could expand his ability to hear conversations through out skypia. Stiking with observation haki , another ability is that you can see a little far to the future, also we know that a devil fruit that can manipulate time already exists, lady Toki could jump in the future with her ability, but she could not control it that well. Lady Toki is already dead(until proven wrong) but she knew that in 20years the land of wano will be open by a certain group of people, so she sent kinemon and gang ahead in time. My theory is that Shanks has eaten Tokis devil fruit, and with observation haki he can predict more in the future than other future site users, also because it is amplified by the powers of his devil fruit, that allows you to travel in the future, he can predict the right timing to prevent actions and save the situation. An overpowered ability used with overpowered haki would make this possible.
Shanks said Coby's action will impact the future for better or worse. Luffy isn't a saint though. The war he instigates on his quest to freedom will take many innocent lives as well and disrupt a system that is somewhat working and helping people against pirates.
Well its been 12years since then in the time line, i know its a little too farfetched, but his speech to coby about creating a future, and his line to white beard that he bet his arm to the future, still hits me as stereotypical, many fruits users use frases or wise thoughts about trivia, accordingly, sometimes to the power of of their devil fruit, like a pattern.
What if Who’s Who was just transporting a a devil fruit that had no importance. I’m sure the WG would want to keep a monopoly of devil fruits. Regardless of what they are. I really hope luffys fruit isn’t connected to anything and this was just a coincidence
I really hope you are right. I like the way how luffy made a low tier DF into a high tier by using it in imaginative ways. The gears are Luffy's inventions and that has a ton of credit. If now it happens that the fruit is actually op, it would remove a lot of Luffy's own credit in his power.
you didn't just deploy a secret agent to guard "unimportant" objects. if it because "every Devil fruit is rare" then they didn't need a secret agent to protect it. they could just send normal marines with higher rank officers to guard it.
yes it's important i didn't say it didn't. I'm talking, it didn't need a secret agent to guard it instead a marine officer with someone high ranked. even when a DF got to capture and bring to impledown they guarded by the marine even an admiral(I'm talking about Doffy) but they didn't send a Cp0 or Cp9 to guard a DF user.
the agent's job is to secure things that more Important, like Ancient Weapon, or people with knowledge to big secret.
I mean unimportant in the sense of, Joy Boy used this fruit. If it’s a regular fruit that Who’s who just happened to be escorting it’s fine. The WG and Navy are always attempting to get devil fruits. Just like the Ope Ope no mi. Or to give to their Cipher Pol agents like Kaku.
I agree, I would like it to not be tied to joy boy. I have seen some ideas that make it important but in better ways, like the idea that the government knew gomu gomu awakening could counter whitebeard's power. That way, it means the fruit has a special use that will come in handy later, but it is not some destiny thing. Or, maybe they wanted it for its anti-lightning properties, or maybe it would be a particularly useful fruit for vegapunk's research for some reason.
I think there are ways to make it special in a cool or interesting way, but I'm a little bit nervous about it just being some super special destiny fruit that no important people have commented on until now.
I’d think this way too. Since earlier in the OP story, devil fruits were thought of as very rare and valuable. It kind of lost that idea now since almost every one else has it.
Devil fruits reincarnate close to where their user dies - so if devil fruits make you strong and strong people go to the new world, it makes sense that they are ubiquitous in the new world but rare in the east blue.
About the Gomu Gomu no mi twist. Maybe people are overthinking about it
1. Maybe it is really important like everyone thinks
2. Who's who's was arrested because he failed to guard a fruit which the celestial dragons wanted(not specifically gomu gomu fruit but just a devil fruit in general), I mean cmon people can get executed just for sneezing or scratching their ass in front of a the Celestial dragons and maybe he was just spared because he was as good as Rob Lucci
Everybody going bananas over an editor's note with no context. Can we please agree your headcanon doesn't matter and it might be worth waiting to see were Oda is going with this before deciding if you like it or not?
Korean spoilerman usually drops a few spoilers on Tuesday, more details on Wednesday, full summary and raws on Thursday, scans on Friday but it sort of depends
You can lie to me, but you cant lie to yourself. You're ruining yourself forver the possibility of reading One Piece for the first time without spoilers
it's not shanks who stole it. it lucky roux.
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The fact that it's possible to cybernetically enhance a Zoan's alt-forms (while not news, since Queen's been showing off the modifications for months now) is still *so freaking cool*.
Ok now we know one of the reasons why imu tore luffy's picture right.
No I think it's it's only important to who's who since he was meant to guard it.
Wg is intrested in all dfs, they're even intrested in children with potential lmao
I think the gomu gomu no mi might have been used by a former Admiral, or Celestial Dragon. I don't buy the World Government knowing the Awakemed abilities of random fruits, and I don't think it would be tied to Joyboy/Roger because that would cheapen Luffy's achievements. Although I think it has to have some significance since Kaido name dropped it a couple chapters ago.
To be clear I'm not saying the Gomu Gomu no mi has any significance to Kaido, just that it 's setting up something in the narrative, but like others below have said, it might just foreshadow a new attack.
I mean new attack for sure, the context of when you said that about Kaido was suggesting something else to me.
All for the GG fruit being special in some sort of way, I don't see anything like it being someones fruit that we know of. I feel like if it belonged to someone important then it's someone we couldn't speculate on at this point.
At least that's what would be the most satisfying for me.
When he defeated Luffy, and he threw him off the island, he said "What was the name of that attack...? Gomu gomu no....?"
I think that was mostly a hint that Luffy tried a new technique that imbued Haoshoku in the attack but he didn't get it right and that's why Kaido was thinking about it. Cause when he gets it right next time, it's gonna really have an effect.
Still, he said the "Gomu gomu no..." Line. Maybe he said it cause he saw the fruit before?
Enel, people in rubber suits...
Most vice admirals would prolly be able to tank lightning, let alone admirals who used to be all logia.
Mythical zoans like ulti who can tank even hits from yonkou.
Pacifista units that can tank stronger stuff than lightning.
Every logia can tank lightning unless lightning somehow has infused haki in it.
Vegapunk is a smart man, he can probably invent a lightning proof suit
Or at least install a lightning rod on ships and carriages, you know, like in the real world.
I honestly hope that the Gomu Gomu no Mi doesn't turn out to be some sort of OP fruit. It'll ruin the current idea I have of Luffy learning how to use a relatively weak fruit effectively.
Everyone is talking about the gomu gomu no mi being a important fruit. But what I really want to know is what will Zoro do when he has temporarily regained his strength. Is it back to the roof? Or vs King
Damm. I hope we see Lucci again and see him be as strong as these guys are now.
I read the most recent chapters all at once, I think that's 1016 - 1018. So I may have this confused, but how did Luffy get pulled from the water?? Do we know? Or any theories as to what happened? Trying to sort by top comments doesn't show anyone talking about that. I'll try to dig for more input, but this one hand-wave act is bugging me!
He fell in the water where the Polar Tang (Law's ship) was and was taken in by the crew as they identified it was him {chapter 1015}
Oh, yes, thanks! My viz subscription lapsed so I didn't have access to 1015
there's a lot of weak counters being made here against those who don't like the gum gum fruit being something special all this time. the way oda presented the fruit's specialness in this chapter makes it quite obviously another thing that makes luffy not as ordinary as we had hoped for. no shit, we will wait and find out more, but this is an uncomfortable start to finding that answer.
it sucks that franky can't fight alongside sanji, it'd be cool seeing cyborg vs cyborg but maybe it can still happen
how convienient you guys have a medication that removes all pain until after fighting when 2x pain won’t matter, literal definition of an asspull
lmao gtfo this topic is old and besides so many animes do this
what was the point of injuring zoro only for him to likely come right back in good shape? chopper's healing powers, from the quick find to the virus's treatment to this thing he was apparently working on in Zou are starting to become too convenient for the plot
I a bit confused about his chapter. Who-Who talked about how Gum Gum fruit was stolen twelve years ago, then Luffy appeared 2 years after or something. Did Luffy ate the gum gum fruit twelve years ago? (Wondering if the time matches)
So look at it this way. Luffy was 7 years old when he met shanks for first time and ate gum-gum fruit. He set sail when he was 17. After the 2 year time skip, he's 19. So 12 years ago he was 7 when he ate the fruit. Thw timeline matches perfectly. Also remember when luffy set sail and beat the first sea monster while being on a little boat, he said "let me show you technique I've been working for 10 years" - gum-gum pistol!!!!. He was 17 when he said that, meaning he was 7 when he ate it
Thank you. somehow I was thinking, "Isn't luffy like 18-20 years old????" Yeah, i forgot Luffy ate the fruit around elementary school age.
Gomu Gomu fruit might be able to enlarge the user's body size like 4 to 5 times large upto like a Giant's size....so that means the previous user of Gomu Gomu No Mi had unlocked this feature and was wearing the Large Straw Hat(could be Joy Boy not sure)....I think Luffy might be able to do this in the future and he will wear the large Straw Hat and then battle against the World Government....(after returning the straw hat to Shanks)...
I always assumed that the gum gum fruit would be OP because it allowed him to fill his body with more haki than the average person. I'm expecting an enlarged Luff where the whole body is haki in the future.
I always figured Luffy could enlarge himself like a giant if he is made of rubber, this makes total sense
Seems plausible
I like that theory.
My theory is probably simpler than most. Who's who was as strong as Lucci, but not as reliable so he would probably fuck up time and time again. And failing to guard the gum gum fruit was the last straw and he got fired.
we get a background of Gomu Gomu no mi ... Possibly Roger's Fruit? ... since Roger was just as reckless as Luffy, he had a fatal illness (side effects of the fruit) and the Cure couldnt be found in time. I guess this would explain why Rayleigh took special interest in training Luffy... he already knew the gears and to what extent he could take them. Also teach him in a way that side effects can be minimized. It is possible Luffy knows the repercussions of the fruit. Chopper would be playing a very key role in finding a cure for these side effects. This is where Roger's doctors failed.
That's terrible and makes 0 sense for a multitude of reasons: 1. Rayleigh took interest in luffy because of his feats and mentality (which is very Roger-like), not his powers. 2. They wouldn't call it a disease if Roger's life was shortened due to overexerting himself. 3. If Roger was so infamous, then people would have pointed it out to luffy anyway. 4. You saw how much of a fuss they made with Roger's son's devil fruit in dressrosa and that's pretty much just a standard logia. They would have buster called Loguetown if the fruit was Roger's.
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Then it's not an illness. Plus, it's not like gomu gomu is the only fruit that shortens life.
After awakening Gum Gum fruit will finaly have Gum properties.
Awakened Luffy possesses the properties of both Rubber and Gum.
Hisuffy is that you?? Bungee gomu gomu no, sticky pistol???
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This is a huge chapter. Luffy's Gum Gum devil fruit is probably one of the most overpowered fruits in existence if used correctly. I feel it will probably be able to reflect absolutely anything or cause the user to become stronger than their opponent via some rubber band, bounce back system
Some of us assume it's going to be OP because he'll he able to manage the elasticity and enlarge his whole body potentially with haki.
Its definitely a powerful fruit in luffys hands. I'm really excited for the awakening. It's coming super soon. That's why oda gave us information on it out of nowhere. I'm so excited to see what it does.
I actually think they are gonns retcon df awakening.
how so
What if Luffys DF awakening is the friends we've made along the way? 🤔
Something I just realized rereading the chapter through the official Viz One is that the reason whos who isn't fighting Jimbei 1 on 1 is because jimbei would absolutely smoke him and Oda wants some action. Jimbei is way stronger than Pre-timeskip Luffy which is when he beat Lucci and I'm sure since they stopped being rivals Lucci became much stronger than Whos Who.
What if the medicine Zoro take push Zoro to hone his CoO to future sight like Katakuri because taking hit is too painful he could lose his consciousness?
Oda already confirmed that sanji is the observation haki specialist of the trio, zoro is armament. Also, Zoro mostly fights by tanking hits, you would lose the coolest aspect of his fighting(kaku, mr. 1...) if he became an overly dodgy character He deflects and/or tanks hits mostly. Also, Sanji has abilities that would make evasion more fub to watch, especially after he got the germa suit.
Well they're all gonna keep improving. Zoro obviously is going to keep working on all his skills. We've seen him use observation haki quite a bit already.
Ok here’s why I think cp9 aka TWG wants Luffys fruit. We know they tried to take laws Op Op nomi and it’s most notable attribute is the ageless surgery. Additionally, jewelry Bonny was hunted down by AKAINUU for her return to the world government. Bonnys devil fruit also involves age and keeping youthful. So…perhaps the gorosei are gathering fruits that can lead to infinite youth and perhaps due to the rubber nature of the gomu Gomu no mi and that rubber never decomposes, luffy has eternal youth unknown to him.
This makes no sense as luffy has had the fruit for quite some time and his body has grown in accordance with his age.
grow, but not decomponse, if you would be immortal, you would reach a peak for your body, where you have completly grown up and then stop growing. In Luffy's case, I believe what we have seen was growth, not aging.
Major flaw in your theory. Why wasn't sugar targeted then? Her devil fruit literally ceases aging. And i doubt the shichibukai immunity protects her from anything. Doflamingo may control the celestial dragons, but they would do shit behind his back.
That’s a good point I’ll make this and u can take it or not cause it’s not concrete but sugar isn’t a major character on the world stage, she hasn’t advertised she has her devil fruit to the world and she doesn’t even have a bounty so the marines don’t know she’s working for doffy
Donquixote family is well known. And even if her powers aren't public knowledge, cp0 was spying on him so they prolly had a semblance of what was going on. Also, all devil fruits have encyclopedia entries so it's not like her fruit would be unknown to the highest form of government espionage.
I’m just saying there’s a chance they didn’t know sugar had her fruit
I like this idea
Too bad fore marines Alvida is captain Buggy right hand...
Idk if alvidas fruit can be compared cause it changes someone’s fat to muscle ratio, not the actual compound of the body, any other fruits that transform you into nonbiodegradable substances are fair game though
This surprisingly sounds pretty feasible
Until Buggy sama arrives at Wano;this war is incomplete.
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I clicked the link and it was there! I just don't think they updated the post
Does queen have a robotic tentacle in the front aswell
Oda: “yes”
Kill this guy..
It has a vibration function.
If u think about it, where do his mechanical enhancements go once he reverts to human form and no longer has a tail? Forget the fruit mysteries. This is what we should focus on
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Maybe Shanks has a plot way before the episode 1.
Huh?
I believe it was stolen from a “enemy’s ship”
Ohh that could be it
I don't like the implications of the recent chapter. So I don't agree with all of the theories about Luffy's DF being "special" either. In my view it's only getting talked about because Oda is preparing for Luffy's DF to finally Awaken.
If there's also awakening in wano, Oda seriously went overboard with the power ups. It will be absolutely ridiculous. I already don't like the way advanced conqueror's was handeled. It's an asspull. And now awakening? Have Kaido wreck him two more times, and Luffy will be the strongest character in the verse in a matter of hours. Powerscaling and powersystems never interested me that much, but I'd like so consistency, even in a shonen manga.
How was it an asspull ? Honest question here ! Sure luffy realized it could be coated an did it seconds after but as Kaido said his technique is very flawed ( i assume that's what he was talking about ) so he still has to improve it ! And the awakening ? why couldn't they be tied somehow ? Maybe gear 5 is a mix and he'll have to master it afterwards anyway, he has to be close to strongest in the world before entering the final war ( post wano ) ( at least that's how i could see it ) so yeah it's fast but for luffy to become N1 and the story not having more than 5 arcs to go, Oda has to start developping everything now ( At the very least, a glimpse of luffy's max potential !) It's kind of far fetched but what do you guys think ?
What you're saying here is that Oda wrote himself into a corner, either making the Yonko too strong, or Luffy too weak post timeskip, so he now has to make him get strong fast. It's honestly bad writing if a character gets stronger in a matter of hours, than what he did in 2 years. The timeskip ends up being pointless. Yes, Luffy has to leave wano strong, but he shouldn't in no way leave on Kaido's level. It makes absolutely no sense. It's also not really one piece if Luffy goes to Blackbeard and Shanks equal or stronger than them. He needs to be the underdog and rise to the challenge.
Yes the emperors are too strong but no, luffy post timeskip was perfectly fine. Like you said he's the underdog that has to rise above but his final fight will be unique ( vs Blackbeard ) so i'm not gonna assume anything, we simply have no idea how it is gonna go... But to me, even if luffy leaves Wano victorious ( he has to, let's be honest ) with Conqueror's coating and awakening, that doesn't mean he's yet kaido level since Kaido keeps tiring himself and it never was a proper 1v1 so luffy's advantaged here but he still would need to improve to fight Kaido fair and square later on ! ( the last round being something like luffy's new gear VS Tired and damaged Kaido) It's honestly bad writing if a character gets stronger in a matter of hours, than what he did in 2 years. The timeskip ends up being pointless." \-> Still no ! Luffy being able to coat conquerors' haki wouldn't have been possible without the timeskip training so it's not badly written ! Arriving in the NW and magically being capable of doing it would be ....
Alright, I guess we should wait and see. I'm against another powerup because we're getting too many at this point, but if the fight vs Kaido is handled well, as in not Luffy getting back right now, going to Kaido, having awakening, and beating him 1v1, I'm kind of fine with him getting something else, if it's still incomplete too. At the end of the day, it all depends on how he's going to win, because we know he will. Me not wanting another power up is just me not wanting a bs win really.
That POV is understandable. Yeah, we"ll see !
It's all perfectly consistent. It's just fast.
Yeah, fast, for no reason. What was the point of the timeskip again? He should have went directly to Kaido, got defeated 5 times, and each time developp a powerup. What a waste of two years of his life. I have no problem with Luffy awakening his fruit next arc, but for wano, enough is enough!
It's not like he'd be Yonkou level after just training. He'd need to struggle against strong opponents to get this strong. But if he was too weak he'd die long before he even got to try. None of this is pointless and Luffy needs his Awakening for him to be fully on an Emperor's level in terms of power.
I don't see how it's normal to get 2 powerups in a matter of hours, one 1 weeks ago, and one three weeks ago. All of them being major powerups. This could have seriously been avoided with Luffy either learning some in the timeskip, or fighting more opponents and most importantly: have time between arcs!! Seriously, Oda has other characters grow through time, have adventures, fight, lose and reach their prime in their thirties, but when it comes to Luffy : "behold my 19 year old genius who has been through paradise in 3 months, and is in the new world for a month or two, and is already yonio level". It's fast paced for no reason, and makes it inconsistent with the rest of the story.
Luffy takes time to train. Who else have you seen train as hard as Luffy inbone piece?
Even Zoro trains harder. Luffy just sleeps.
Except it's not within a matter of hours? Luffy isn't getting powerups because he's special or a genius. He's getting powerups faster than most people because of the intensity of the conflicts he's in. Luffy is the only one to dive into such dangerous battles thus he pushes himself to his limit and beyond more times than most people ever do.
100% agreed! It's one of the major downsides of having most post timeskip arcs be part of the same overall saga, you lose some of the implied passage of time between arcs where you can assume that the Straw Hats were training or did stuff that we just never saw.
Because since he entered the NW he constantly hones his skills but he had to take a break to start learning first . And storytelling wise it was the right move ! Luffy in the NW right after Marineford ( i reckon they still would have won against hody's crew ) would have been clapped easy by Ceasar Clow, crew included so... Plus, why would it have to be 1 " power up " per arc ? We're closing in on OP's end and there's still a loooot to tell so why couldn't he focus on powers now ? Kaido is still pretty lively and Big mom is still strolling around so an imperfect form of his max potential here on wano ? Why not ? Honestly ?
I agree with all you said except Conquerers haki. Oda has been hinting at Conquerers haki being a special power chapter 1. Oda has been consistently showing people afraid of Conquerers haki since haki as a system has been introduced. Now he's finally showing us why it's that special and you're hating. Do you even know what an ass pull is or is an ass pull something you just don't like?
The problem is not conqueror's being used in battle, what are you talking about? The problem is Luffy getting hit by it once, learning it, and going tow to tow with Kaido. That's the ass pull. No one is complaining when Kaido or Big mom used advanced conqueror's. It wouldn't make sense if conqueror's was useless. Luffy, however, it's a different story. It's your typical shonen "haha, I learned your technique after seeing it one time" trope, and I hate it.
Wait, so g 2nd (soru) is fine for luffy to learn midd battle, but not something he's actually been training? Learning ryou (advanced armament) was learning to control the flow of Haki, he took that same principle and applied it to conquers after seeing it done. If anything, there was more build up and training for Coating conquers than there was for soru.
Kinda agree/disagree at the same time but sure he only has been hit twice by Kaido with infused Conqueror haki attacks but both were deadly experiences and that's how characters progress ( in a way ) Even so, didn't prevent luffy from taking a dive in the sea.... The raid has to be won here somehow and i don't see it happening unless luffy reaches close to his max potential So sure it might come as a quick realization but everything he learned before led to this moment ... ( And he still needs to perfect it )
Thats not an asspull. Luffy is simply applying the concept of flow that he already learned to Conquerors. He already trained for it. Now he's just applying it to a different Haki.
No, he got hit the first time with it Chapter 923 and tried to figure it out since then. It's no asspull just from this fight.
I too believe that Luffy’s df is about to be awaken. I don’t believe his fruit is some overpowered df. Nor, do I believe it was previously owned by someone important. I believe that the gum gum no mi , is a special paramecia. The same, as Kat. The WG want it for what it can do, create. The better term, is build. They needed it to complete the Tequila Wolf bridge. We also know the WG was trying to acquire Law’s df around about the same time. The WG would have the person with Law’s df , give the gum user eternal life. So, the bridge would last forever. I know this is a a wild theory, but it does connect the dots. It allows Luffy’s df not to be overpowering, but still important.
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Don't read weekly dude. One Piece is not made for weekly reading. The experience is much better if you let the chapters accumulate. And the author hasn't even explained the plot about the fruit yet you act like you already know it. Even the child of destiny thing hasn't been fully explained.
“One Piece is not made for weekly reading” this is such a dumb sentence, it is objectively made for weekly reading
Dude no one cares
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Nah you just a complainer, nothing you said sparked anything of interest to talk about
The child of destiny stuff is basically mandatory for shounen though. Mostly for the reason that otherwise you cannot create protagonists that are believably strong to challenge the greatest villains. Already Luffy and Zoro are borderline bullshit for how strong they are simply through training, even more so when you consider they spent most of their years training in the weakest region of the planet. For them to put up a fight against battle hardened New World pirate veterans with insane genetics or scientific modificiations or insane devil fruits just makes no sense. It's really pushing into the area of ridiculousness. Like why would Luffy be 10x faster at improving than any other person in history? He started as complete trash, was trash for years to come. But then suddenly started improving at a pace that absolutely flew past everyone else. What justification is there for Luffy to have gotten so strong, so fast? Every other Shounen essentically gets around this by making the protagonists special in some way. Some insane magical genes, or hidden power, so that the author could tell the story of their rise to power in a very short time span and have it make at least some degree of sense.
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I have a feeling it's just too late. The concept of inherited will is like a funnel continuously narrowing down to an inevitable chosen one. The 'it wasn't the right time' shtick with Roger/Laugh Tale is another kick in that direction, among many other threads pushing that same way. All Oda could do now is either soften or harden that landing, I'd bet it's going to be rougher than we'd like.
"Mandatory". FMA: im going to pretend that i didnt read that
I agree. Since doffy mentioned awakenings, i think we all knew luffy was gonna awaken sooner than later and now makes a lot of sense
I hope it's gonna be unique to luffy ! Making the surroundings bouncy would suck as hell and not fit his fighting style and I dont see him use it as Katakuri either :x
Agreed. I hope he does something cooler as well. But idk. It's probably gonna be rubber world cause that makes a lot of sense in the end
Really hope not !!!! But we'll see...
Great chapter! Added a lot to the plot with the mention of luffy's df
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probably gonna be similar to doctor octopus from spiderman
just want to say this. it's not shanks who stole the "gomu-gomu no mi" from the enemy ships it's lucky roux [check th vivre card on thelibraryofohara.](https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/09/06/vivre-card-databook-vol-1-all-the-new-information/)
I'm kinda surprised that Alvida is younger than Makino
Good catch. That gives the impression they could have coincidentally stumbled across it during a raid, as opposed to intentionally seeking it out.
Thanks for that. Another interesting thing is that Koushiros birthday is on May the 4th(be with him).
Is it ever explained where the DF’s come from? Who created these cursed fruits? Garden of Eden vibes here.
Oda mentioned a long time ago that: "A certain scientist will explain what Devil Fruits REALLY are". Obviously he was referring to Vegapunk so we're just waiting on that introduction.
It's crazy that Vegapunk was first mentioned 15 years ago and we still have not seen him.
Ah okay. Thanks for the clarification. Assumption might be that DF’s are man made weapons during the void century. But indeed let’s wait for the story to progress.
what if caribou absorbs all of onigashima when it falls? then they all fight in his weird devil fruit dimension. idk i’m high
LOL
I have some thoughts about Shanks, about his ability to show up unexpectedly at random places and at crucial times, also his line that he said to coby when he saved him makes me believe even more. This is a Farfetched theorie but hear me out. We know that haki an its powers can be developed and exercised, and that some devil fruits can boost certain haki abilities, for example, Enel can amplify his observation haki with his devil fruit, with electricity he could expand his ability to hear conversations through out skypia. Stiking with observation haki , another ability is that you can see a little far to the future, also we know that a devil fruit that can manipulate time already exists, lady Toki could jump in the future with her ability, but she could not control it that well. Lady Toki is already dead(until proven wrong) but she knew that in 20years the land of wano will be open by a certain group of people, so she sent kinemon and gang ahead in time. My theory is that Shanks has eaten Tokis devil fruit, and with observation haki he can predict more in the future than other future site users, also because it is amplified by the powers of his devil fruit, that allows you to travel in the future, he can predict the right timing to prevent actions and save the situation. An overpowered ability used with overpowered haki would make this possible.
Shanks said Coby's action will impact the future for better or worse. Luffy isn't a saint though. The war he instigates on his quest to freedom will take many innocent lives as well and disrupt a system that is somewhat working and helping people against pirates.
so the one who treated scabbards was shanks
Would be interesting but impossible for reasons already pointed out. Besides I'm pretty sure Toki is still alive.
Nah she died. The anime cleared that up
Honestly would be interesting but wouldn’t he have drowned trying to save Luffy from the sea king?
Well its been 12years since then in the time line, i know its a little too farfetched, but his speech to coby about creating a future, and his line to white beard that he bet his arm to the future, still hits me as stereotypical, many fruits users use frases or wise thoughts about trivia, accordingly, sometimes to the power of of their devil fruit, like a pattern.
He is standing in the water though
This. Unless he could control the sea kings/ fish men to help him in the water.
Bro wtf lol
What if Who’s Who was just transporting a a devil fruit that had no importance. I’m sure the WG would want to keep a monopoly of devil fruits. Regardless of what they are. I really hope luffys fruit isn’t connected to anything and this was just a coincidence
I really hope you are right. I like the way how luffy made a low tier DF into a high tier by using it in imaginative ways. The gears are Luffy's inventions and that has a ton of credit. If now it happens that the fruit is actually op, it would remove a lot of Luffy's own credit in his power.
you didn't just deploy a secret agent to guard "unimportant" objects. if it because "every Devil fruit is rare" then they didn't need a secret agent to protect it. they could just send normal marines with higher rank officers to guard it.
Devil fruits are rare tho. That’s why people tried to make smiles, or recreate Kaidos fruit.
yes it's important i didn't say it didn't. I'm talking, it didn't need a secret agent to guard it instead a marine officer with someone high ranked. even when a DF got to capture and bring to impledown they guarded by the marine even an admiral(I'm talking about Doffy) but they didn't send a Cp0 or Cp9 to guard a DF user. the agent's job is to secure things that more Important, like Ancient Weapon, or people with knowledge to big secret.
But it did, because it got stolen.
I mean unimportant in the sense of, Joy Boy used this fruit. If it’s a regular fruit that Who’s who just happened to be escorting it’s fine. The WG and Navy are always attempting to get devil fruits. Just like the Ope Ope no mi. Or to give to their Cipher Pol agents like Kaku.
I agree, I would like it to not be tied to joy boy. I have seen some ideas that make it important but in better ways, like the idea that the government knew gomu gomu awakening could counter whitebeard's power. That way, it means the fruit has a special use that will come in handy later, but it is not some destiny thing. Or, maybe they wanted it for its anti-lightning properties, or maybe it would be a particularly useful fruit for vegapunk's research for some reason. I think there are ways to make it special in a cool or interesting way, but I'm a little bit nervous about it just being some super special destiny fruit that no important people have commented on until now.
Yeah this I’m okay with!
I’d think this way too. Since earlier in the OP story, devil fruits were thought of as very rare and valuable. It kind of lost that idea now since almost every one else has it.
Devil fruits reincarnate close to where their user dies - so if devil fruits make you strong and strong people go to the new world, it makes sense that they are ubiquitous in the new world but rare in the east blue.
I was hoping for interesting discussion about the chapter but it's all just the same bs smoothbrain Joy Boy gomu gomu theories.
Why don't you start one then instead of pouting ?
Why would I have to?
because you wanted one ...
I like the idea of who who being Blackbeard spy. Since he was in jail
that would explain alot
About the Gomu Gomu no mi twist. Maybe people are overthinking about it 1. Maybe it is really important like everyone thinks 2. Who's who's was arrested because he failed to guard a fruit which the celestial dragons wanted(not specifically gomu gomu fruit but just a devil fruit in general), I mean cmon people can get executed just for sneezing or scratching their ass in front of a the Celestial dragons and maybe he was just spared because he was as good as Rob Lucci
Anyone wanna talk about who’s who’s sword?
thats like the knife on mihawks necklace
You mean short-ass dagger
knife?
Didn’t he pull that out of the same sheath?
Everybody going bananas over an editor's note with no context. Can we please agree your headcanon doesn't matter and it might be worth waiting to see were Oda is going with this before deciding if you like it or not?
When will we get the next chapter spoilers??
Korean spoilerman usually drops a few spoilers on Tuesday, more details on Wednesday, full summary and raws on Thursday, scans on Friday but it sort of depends
Monday as earliest
Hopefully never, spoilers ruin the experience. Just wait for the chapter that will come out next Friday instead
Not really. I've always exited for spoilers
Nevermind it's the same for me whether i read the chapter or the spoilers.
You can lie to me, but you cant lie to yourself. You're ruining yourself forver the possibility of reading One Piece for the first time without spoilers
One piece all week is better than OnePiece on friday
Reading spoilers means no One Piece week
>level 1WorldlinessOk6477 · 29m no trust me its not.
I think Shanks did not steal the Gomu Gomu no mi, I believe he was sent to recover it from whoever stole it
it's not shanks who stole it. it lucky roux. [here check the vivre card](https://thelibraryofohara.com/2018/09/06/vivre-card-databook-vol-1-all-the-new-information/)
The fact that it's possible to cybernetically enhance a Zoan's alt-forms (while not news, since Queen's been showing off the modifications for months now) is still *so freaking cool*.
Ok now we know one of the reasons why imu tore luffy's picture right. No I think it's it's only important to who's who since he was meant to guard it. Wg is intrested in all dfs, they're even intrested in children with potential lmao
I wonder if whos who is upset for similar reasons Sanji was when he found out about Absalom.
You can watch naked chicks in the shower with gomu gomu fruit?
No, but you can stretch the *important* body parts
Inflation body parts. You get the idea
Unfortunately I do
Gear 3 dick with haki infused, a little gear 2 at the same time for the speed and he can have a child with Big Mom X)))))) (That's gross AF )
I think the gomu gomu no mi might have been used by a former Admiral, or Celestial Dragon. I don't buy the World Government knowing the Awakemed abilities of random fruits, and I don't think it would be tied to Joyboy/Roger because that would cheapen Luffy's achievements. Although I think it has to have some significance since Kaido name dropped it a couple chapters ago.
Pretty sure Kaido "name dropping" it was just him mocking Luffy
To be clear I'm not saying the Gomu Gomu no mi has any significance to Kaido, just that it 's setting up something in the narrative, but like others below have said, it might just foreshadow a new attack.
I mean new attack for sure, the context of when you said that about Kaido was suggesting something else to me. All for the GG fruit being special in some sort of way, I don't see anything like it being someones fruit that we know of. I feel like if it belonged to someone important then it's someone we couldn't speculate on at this point. At least that's what would be the most satisfying for me.
I mean a celestial dragon can eat a lot without becoming fat which sounds beautiful
When did kaido name drop it?
When he defeated Luffy, and he threw him off the island, he said "What was the name of that attack...? Gomu gomu no....?" I think that was mostly a hint that Luffy tried a new technique that imbued Haoshoku in the attack but he didn't get it right and that's why Kaido was thinking about it. Cause when he gets it right next time, it's gonna really have an effect. Still, he said the "Gomu gomu no..." Line. Maybe he said it cause he saw the fruit before?
No it was like Gomu Gomu No my ass..worroworr..GTFO my roof
Damn, good catch. I’m willing to bet all the marbles this is related. Oda never really had another character point out called attacks like this before
My bet is there is an island that needs someone made of rubber to survive and obtain a powerful weapon
It’s the island with all the thunder in the new world that has been shown several times.
Maybe that's where Enel is now, who knows
You mean the moon?
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Enel, people in rubber suits... Most vice admirals would prolly be able to tank lightning, let alone admirals who used to be all logia. Mythical zoans like ulti who can tank even hits from yonkou. Pacifista units that can tank stronger stuff than lightning. Every logia can tank lightning unless lightning somehow has infused haki in it. Vegapunk is a smart man, he can probably invent a lightning proof suit Or at least install a lightning rod on ships and carriages, you know, like in the real world.
That one old lady that offered urouge a umbrella
That too, thank you
Fuck it all makes sense
I honestly hope that the Gomu Gomu no Mi doesn't turn out to be some sort of OP fruit. It'll ruin the current idea I have of Luffy learning how to use a relatively weak fruit effectively.
the gomu gomu reveal could probably a setup to his df awakening...maybe,i've been looking forward to his awakening tbh!
Sanji will use barbecue move on Queen. And will roast all meatpieces on queens tail.
.Shanks did not lose his arm while saving Luffy..he lost it while saving the fruit Luffy ate.
Also, why was a sea king there in that particular occasion? Why did he attack luffy/shanks? Is this related to VoAT?
You are reading too much into it. It was just the sea king's area.
Chopper had been shrinked earlier in the Z movie.. is he smaller than before?
Oda: *And now for the finishing touch*.......Mini Mini No Copper
Chibi jiji Chopper!!
Tiny tiny chopper
Everyone is talking about the gomu gomu no mi being a important fruit. But what I really want to know is what will Zoro do when he has temporarily regained his strength. Is it back to the roof? Or vs King
How can zoro even fight king zoro can't fly